Finish. I have one word left. Iraq. And nobody heard it because these characters. So they not only got a great deal but they also take over iraq with the second Largest Oil Reserves in the world. They have it, sure as aur sittisi youre sitting there. They have iraq. So were spending trillions. And whos take over . Iran is taking over the oil. Theyre taking over iraq. I mean, what we are doing is so incredible. Theres nothing like what weve done. Were destroying ourselves. Were losing our jobs. Were losing our base. Were losing everything. And its not going to happen anymore. Its not going to happen anymore. Its not going to were not going to let it happen anymore. Not happening. Now, and i will tell you something about the protesters. And i respect what theyre doing. But i really believe unless they have a Substance Abuse problem, which is probably there he does. He definitely does. No, i really think i can take them into a room, talk to them for 20 minutes. What are we doing . We want strong military, we want good health care, we want a good country. We want low taxes. Id cut the taxes way down, especially for the middle class in business. And you know, i actually said, i could take these kids, most of them are kids are they talk i dont even hear them. Their voice is so weak i dont even hear them. Okay. You can get them out. Yeah, get them out. This is amazing. Thank you, darling. I love my people. They say my people are the most loyal of anybody, i can do anything. They say they say we have the most fun. Ill tell you what, i have the smartest people. They were trying to say our people arent let me tell you, we have the smartest people. Im really smart. My uncle was one of the top people at m. I. T. For years. He was a we have good stuff. We have great genes in this room. We have smart people. They get it. They get it. They really do get it. Its been an amazing its been an amazing journey for me. Is somebody shouting back there . Oh, i love you. Thats good. But isnt this more exciting, though, than these other rallies where they have no protesters, nobody cares. Nobody cares. They go in, everybody falls asleep, they say can i go home now, darling . And everyone leaves. And the guys standing there, please vote for me. How about this guy omalley . I mean, heres a guy no, think of it. His number one credential is he was the mayor of baltimore. Can you believe it . And he okay. So now he holds a rally and one man showed up. Did you see that . It was one of the great and hes sitting there talking to the guy for an hour, just two people. Then the guy gets up and he leaves and the press says, well, are you going to vote for him . No, actually, im not. Spends a i mean, its time for him to get out. Its time. Time for omalley to get out. He is really bad news. At least bernie is getting some action. He gets much smaller crowds than me. But at least bernie gets some action, right . Oh, would i love to run against bernie. I would love i would [ cheers and applause ] that would be a dream come true. But actually, i must say, i have my mind set on hillary. I have my mind set on hillary. Its just its just going to be what . Well take it what does that mean . Thats not nice. I got in such trouble. How about last week. Did i get in trouble . What did i say . What did i say . I said nothing. But i did get in trouble. The crowd there was incredible too. You know what happens . We have amazing people. We have like these crowds. And theyre all like interchangeable. We have great people. You go to the south, you go to the north, you go to the west, the people have one thing in common. The enthusiasm. The love of their country. They love their country. Its unbelievable. And let me tell you. Let me tell you something. Its going to be very interesting. I dont think we can be beaten. Theres a momentum that we have. Theres a momentum that we have that is so unbelievable. I thought i heard a little voice over there. Get them out. Take them out. Get them out of here. Dont give him his coat. Dont give him his coat. Keep his coat. Confiscate his coat. You know, its about 10 degrees below zero outside. No, you can keep his coat. Tell him well send it to him in a couple of weeks. All right. Its amazing. No, its amazing. But you know what . Sometimes we have sometimes you go into 20,000, you have none of that. I knew i was going to have some in vermont in all fairness. If we didnt have that, it wouldnt be vermont, right . Hey. Why do you think the other republicans are not coming up here, folks . Okay . Im the only one. Why do you think . But it is its a funny story. The first time it happened was a couple of months ago. And i was really nasty. Ill tell you one thing. We all like bernie. Do you like bernie . Okay. Well, if you want to pay a 90 tax he wants to tax you at 90 . So you dont like him. I wasnt sure. I had to feel that out. But how about when the two young women took over his microphone . They came up screaming at him, and he retreated. He went like and they made the speech for the rest of that. That wont happen with me. I promise. I promise. I promise. That was a terrible i tell you what. It was so embarrassing to watch that. You know, because hes a politician, hes from this country. When they took over that microphone that night, screaming at him, he was petrified. He walks to the back of the stage with that tall guy, the goofus guy. He stands there. And theyre both watching these two girls speaking. And the crowd is saying give him back the mike. Give him back. And bernies standing i lost so much respect for bernie. That was terrible. We cant let anybody take over our mike. We cant let it happen. Cant let it happen. Hes obsessed with this on Bernie Sanders, that the mike was taken away. June 16th in new york. I said to my wife, you know, weve got to do it. And i looked down at that building at trump tower, 57th and 5th avenue, and i looked down, and i saw more of those cameras than ive ever seen at one place. I have never seen. The entire lower level of trump tower was cameras, cameras, cameras. Outside on the streets they were closing trucks. The equipment. Nbc, abc, cbs, fox. Everything. Networks i never even heard of. I never saw so many networks. I said are there that many it was like the academy awards. It was. It was like the academy awards. You all remember it. And everybody said hes not going to run. So they were all waiting. But i just said look, weve got to do it. And i took a deep breath. And i said, lets go. Because it takes guts to run for president. It really does. No, it really does. I mean, its not something i had in mind. Steve burke whos a great guy, the head of comcast, he came to my office just before. He wanted me to renew for a lot of episodes of the apprentice. It sounds a little trivial. We love the apprentice. It sounds trivial. Its not. Its a lot of money. And then the deals i lose. Plus i love my lifestyle. And now im driving around in an armored vehicle. I drive around in a vehicle. I say how good are those windows . Sir, they can take 28 ak47 bullets before they degenerate. I say thats a hell of a window, right . And then i say how about the doors . The doors are unlimited, sir. The bottom and the top. Im driving around in an army tank. Ill never see a rollsroyce again think of it. I may never see a car i want to be in again. And they always put me in so fast. Im going in. You know, its whatever the hell they call them. Boom, get in. Boom, the door closes. And when that door closes were talking about the only good thing, if you ever get hit nothings going to happen. Ill tell you that. But its been an amazing experience. I mean, the best part of the experience are the people that ive met. The people in this country are so competent. I mean, theyre so incredible. And theyre so enthusiastic. And i mean that. I love the people. I love the people. But i said to my wife, i said, come on, we have to do it. Weve got to do it. And i really didnt know until thaes claitor. Weve all seen the famous escalator ride down. Melania and her beautiful ride down and me waving. I didnt even know who the hell i was waving to. And i came down and we made a speech and we talked about illegal immigration. Right . Did i take heat . Did i Rush Limbaugh said he has never seen so much incoming to one its true. I took i never had anything like it. And then two weeks later it started dying down, dying down. Now people are saying hes right. Its turned out to be right. Its now im like im like all these guys are trying to catch me. And ted cruz, who i like, but three nights ago he was being interviewed. And he said, and we will build the wall. He never said that. My wife side, that gentleman just said were going to build a wall, hes going to build a wall. I said he never said that before. So theyre all coming to me and theyre all but nobody can do it like first of all, nobody can build a wall like me. Thats for sure. All right. We are continuing to listen to donald trump, who is just down the block here from the vermont pub and brewery. We can keep listening to him if you folks want to keep listening to him here in the vermont pub and brewery. [ booing ] okay. I listen to the crowd. The crowd has its way. That sentiment thats inside the location here i think is broadly shared by a lot of folks in burlington, in vermont. Certainly protesters outside. Joining me from outside the rally, abc news correspondent katie couric. It looked like every time a protester was in the hall and got tossed out they would come out to cheers from the protesters across the street. Yeah. And each one does a little victory dance. Youve got to remind yourself youre covering a Political Campaign, covering a candidate for president because oftentimes these rallies and especially this one can seem more like a rock concert or a circus even with the protesters and the supporters. Theyre fighting, theyre cheering, theyre going inside and theyre pumping their fists and theyre just so excited to be here. It is its jarring. It must be so weird to cover a candidate like jeb bush or marco rubio even because of the difference there is between the crowds. But this is certainly one of the biggest protests weve seen for a donald trump rally. And its not surprising. Look, heres another one. Theyre jumping up and down. And everyones cheering for them. So this is definitely a new thing. But there are often protests at all of his rallies. Certainly not this large. I want to give you an interesting fact, though, about vermont. Why is he here . Well, this state votes on march 1st. Its an s. E. C. Primary state. Nobody campaigns up here because they assume its a blue state, why bother . Trump does a little bit of campaigning up here, a little bit of campaigning even in massachusetts, and then hes able to hopefully in his camp walk away with this state, win two states pretty easily. Vermont also is, as weve been talking about, the home of Bernie Sanders. Okay, look, heres another one. And when he comes in here and says i can draw 20,000 people who rsvp for me, look what i can do in Bernie Sanders back yard, i am a crossover candidate, i can win where nobody else can, and a little fact about vermont, it was a red state for a long time. In the 1850s. Until 1992. They only voted for one democrat. Then in 1992 they voted for bill clinton and it has been a blue state ever since. So there is certainly something in the Trump Campaign that maybe they can do some damage here. I dont know about that, though. All right, katy, thank you very much. The story going into tonight was donald trump comes into Bernie Sanders front yard. We went over to the Bernie Sanders campaign. Well bring you some of those interviews. We got here about 11 00 today, started talking to people online and the question was whats the deal, are these people here actually to see trum s p are they here to jeer trump or protest trump . Are they undecided about how they feel about trump . What ended up happening was when folks got to the door, despite the fact many had been waiting for five or six or seven hours, some i think just in genuine good faith wanted to hear what the guy had to say, they were asked point blank are you a supporter or not . And if they said no they were tossed out. Joining me now are three people who were turned away from the trump rally. Jess kel who was one of the first people to line up this morning. Caroline and tim jones. Jess, so what brought you down to the rally . I came down because i wanted to see the process as it unfolded. And you were with your son, right . My son was in line at 10 00 this morning. I actually got here around 4 00. So you go up and youre about to go in and what do they say to you . They say are you a trump supporter . And i said im here to listen and observe and learn and they repeated the question, are you a trump supporter . And i said im here to listen. And they indicated that i needed to leave, you need to leave now or youll be arrested for trespassing, this is a private event. This is a private event for Trump Supporters and you were trespassing if you were not a supporter. And i was escorted out by the police. Caroline, what happened to you when you got to that line . It was a pretty similar event. I got up to the front of the line after waiting for six hours with my brother in the cold and a man asked me if i woos a trump supporter. And i didnt think twice about it. I just said no. And he told me i had to leave. I started to argue with him and he pulled a policeman over and he told me the same thing, that id be arrested for trespassing if i didnt leave. What was your response . One of the things that struck me is the city of burlington, the municipal officials here, i talked to the police chief and the mayor, are going out of their way to say look, we welcome him to the town, but this is america, democracy, first amendment, he wants to have a rally here, good for him. Whats your how do you feel about being kicked out . I mean, i think the real shame is that you know, when you have a political event you have they say online if it was a phish concert they would totally shut down the event. It would be not the irresponsibility of the campaign giving so many tickets away and with so many few seats to actually hold people, then they wouldnt even let those people in. But you know, to those the fact is there are a lot of people who just want to hear the campaign. And thats in some ways when youre on the trail in, say, iowa or New Hampshire you do events not just for your supporters. In fact, thats what campaigning generally is, is going to talk to people who dont yet support you and try to convince you i was undecided. I wanted to hear the opposing points of view. I wanted to hear why, you know because i hadnt seen him speak in person. Theres certainly many reasons that he may not have come across that way in the way the media portrays him. Right. I talked to people today, i thought it was interesting. What katy said there is key. When you go back and look at 2008, right . Barack obama campaigned in states that people forgot about. It actually helped him put points on the board. The idea that vermont is actually a super tuesday state. And i talked to people in line who said i respect him for coming here. Yeah. I think one of the biggest shames of today is there are so many young people in line that may have not gotten a chance to go inside. My son is 17. Hes with a group of high school and college students. Most of whom will be voting in their first president ial election. Your son was smart enough to say he was a supporter. He did. All right, jess kel, caroline, tim jones. Thank you very much for joining us. Really appreciate it. All right. We are here at the vermont pub and brewery. We have a kind of Mount Rushmore of vermont. Howard dean in the room, jerry of ben jerry. Everyone is here. But in washington, d. C. Right now is my colleague chris matthews, host of hardball. Chris, have you ever heard of a Political Campaign event during Campaign Season where you could only get in if you already support the candidate . Well, i guess we have to squeeze 20,000 people into 1,500 seats. You get pretty extreme about it. I havent seen anything like this before. Youre right. But ill tell you something. Ive been listening to the guy tonight, as i always do. Hes running against the Republican Party. Which is certainly interesting for a candidate for a republican nomination, any partys nomination. Running against the republicans. Hes running against the iraq war. I mean, hes running against the trade policies in the Republican Party that he says are costing us jobs. Its not against obama as much as against his own Political Party that hes chosen to run in, which is going to tell us a lot about where this campaigns headed by next november. This year, the november election could possibly, plausibly have a nominee of a party whos run against the party and has beaten it. Thats possible. And i talked to a bunch of people today. I probably talked, chris, to i dont know, three dozen, four dozen Trump Supporters. And to a person it was people dont think particularly highly of the institution of the Republican Party. We know how much the establishment as we call it is hated. But also people basically a huge part of it is the guy is a celebrity. I mean, a lot of people are there because they think i like donald trump, ive seen him on tv, ive read his books, i think, you know, the countrys screwed and hes a successful guy. You know, i think theres a lot of showbiz and a lot of those years on the apprentice where he really built an audience and hes got a lot of interesting kind of charm. Hes very funny. You may not like him at all. People dont like even hearing you think hes funny. But i sit here with people, we laugh. A lot of the time we laugh because its so over the top, its so outrageous what he says. And i think this political correctness, he says things most people dont say. And it has a certain edge to it and it can be bad and dirty and ugly even sometimes. Ive pointed that out. Weve all pointed it out. But theres a certain irascibility to it that jum apps way from listening to Martin Omalley or one of the other candidates. You go yeah, yeah, yeah. Heres a big difference. Hillary clintons positioned herself we know as on the center left. Go ahead, get him out of here. And cruz has positioned himself on the hard right of the Republican Party. Where has donald trump positioned himself . In a totally different world of nationalism, of anger, of entertainment. You put all the pieces together. Hes selling something that hasnt been sold before, and thats why hes