Who happened to be married to a lobbyist. He maintained a secret calendar to hide his contacts. That whistle blower said aides met regularly to scrub his calendar of anything that might look bad. According to a new report directly asking the president to fire jeff sessions. Joining me now is epa whistle blow blower. I want to get clear, and you want to get clear, you are support of the president of the united states. You have no ideological or political ax to grind. Is that correct . Not at all. It is just the opposite. I am still the biggest trump supporter and lifelong supporter. I would go through a brick wall for the man today. I want to talk about the calendars. It is not uncommon that agency heads have two calendars. A public calendar and a private cal der. My understanding is there is something other than that going on. Explain what was happening. Like you said, you have the two calendars. But there was a third calendar. We would go on and do these things and before the trips, next thing you know well be asked to basically scrub things that he did that would be controversial, there were other trips. Like this was a weekly occurrence where we would take the actual schedule, print it out and they would literally, the chief of staff would take some of the stuff that they thought was controversial. The public one, the one that was a public record, which these are all public records, they would say delete events if they thought it would be too controversial. Yes, sir, and they would basically print out a paper copy of the schedule and then the chief of staff ryan jackson or administrator pruitt would take a pen or pencil and take out the stuff. And that would go onto the official schedule. When we talk about the official schedule, another big thing that i think everybody should know, is it took months at the beginning and refused to give those out. And my understanding is it takes a month or two for that stuff to come out. Let me stop you there. Did you or others think this is sketchy, this is strange behavior, why are we doing this . So, i will make it even easier than that. I basically lost my whole career. I was one of the president s first advance guys. I couldnt put up with it anymore. I love this administration, i love the president. But scott pruitt, everything i witnessed i couldnt be a part of it. I mean, it was just down right wrong. There were low level, and other reports today, low level staffers, being asked to charge trips on their credit card and not being reimbursed. Did you ever, is that something you witnessed first hand . Absolutely. I actually saw where the chief of staff ryan jackson had to give one of the younger staffers, literally pulled six, 100 bills out of his wallet and gave it to this young lady. Because she had charged something and not been reimbursed. It was hotel from the hotel rooms from the inauguration that his family stayed in. 400 meal in rome, you have also got him, what was the deal with him, he seemed desperate to find his wife a lucrative job. Trying to get her a job for making at least 200,000. Did you witness that . Was that something he talked about . Yes, i heard about the chickfila, the one i heard about the most, is apparently she is an interior decorator. And they tried to find her jobs around d. C. As an interior decorator. You mean public employees. Federal environmental agencies that is paid by public funds. Yes, sir. Most of the core staff that was around him every day came from oklahoma. These people were great people. And still to this day, i would say it, i wish they were more truthful and up front with what happened. If so, there would be more people like me coming out. 100 would have these staffers doing this stuff. Two or three of these key staffers that came from oklahoma. These were all friends, people he brought from oklahoma city. But on the public payroll. They work for us, the American People. 100 . Yours and my tax dollars. Not only were they misspending our tax dollars but taking time away from our job and everything else. This thing happened once in a while that would be one thing. This thing was days months. People who cut corner and get into public life and are careless. But this was a concerted effort to griff. To get a sweet heart lease. And also to talk in secret with people he has to regulate. What is driving this . What is your assessment of the mans motive here . It doesnt matter if you work at mcdonalds or at the white house, everybody tries to better themselves, but this went well beyond that. I heard early, you bringing this up after secretary price was fired, and that is when we all got together and said enough is enough, we are not going to do anything like that anymore and in my opinion, administrator doubled and tripled down and it got worse. That is when the hundred thousand a month private plane came in. And that is when i knew that was my last couple of days. That i had to be moved to a Different Agency or quite frankly had to leave. So you are saying, ignorance is no excuse after the price thing. People saying we are making decisions here that is exposing us. What is the motive . Is he financially stressed . Greedy . Why is he doing this . I would be lying if i said i dont know his financial situation, but regardless, if he had a financial issue, or not, i mean, all of us, you cant do that kind of stuff, when you are a cabinet level secretary, you cannot do that stuff. When my first calm ouple of day with the administration, i had to go through ethic training and courses. So did he. You cant say you didnt know. Every single one of us knew the regulations and the stuff we couldnt do. Not only would we have been fired, more than likely also legal trouble. Final question for you. You are a big supporter of the president , obviously he has decided to not fire this man despite the fact his infamous catch phrase, youre fired. What is your message to the president , should he fired scott pe pruit. The problem with this is that i joined the Trump Campaign even before his announcement and why that was because of the whole message of draining the swamp and not only did we not drain the swamp, we put a bigger swamp creature. Thank you for your time. Joined by two reporters all over the scott pruitt. Eric, how, what is the theory here . Why is this happening . It is hard to understand, because scott pruitt is a smart guy. And he has done so many things that has brought unwanted attention to himself. Just as kevin said, it is hard to understand why he would have engaged in so many activities that were clearly he should know unethical. One thing that is key goes to broader questions of conflict of interest. Using Public Office to enrich himself, but this question of who he is meeting with and what he is saying. And this question of the calendars, those should be public records and important that those be preserved right . Certainly. There is an integrity with the public records. And a slew of outlets depend on those records. There is no question that those are supposed to stay unadulterated and i am sure this is going to be added to the list of things that investigators will be looking at. Do you have a sense of why he is been able to endure . Yes, i feel like we have done a lot of reporting on this and our sense is there are two things. One is clearly that he has worked diligently to execute the president s agenda on energy and environment. Ruled to rollback major and smaller regulations that were put in place by the obama administration. So there is that and also he has a personal rapport with the president. Spends a great deal of time anybody the white house, eating at the white house mess. Spending time in the oval office itself. Spending a lot of time talking to President Trump himself. Those personal times helps sustain him. Kevin mentioned something that i think about a lot. If any one of us were doing this, we would be fired and in legal peril. To get your publicly funded employees to try to get your wife a job, but that seems pretty well established at this point. Yeah. If he used Government Resources to pursue something that had potentially, a personal financial benefit to him or used his own powers and position and title to get something benefitting him or his wife, that would be violation of ethic rules or criminal. There is an email trail that shows that staff were engaged in trying to get his wife work. I have heard some suggestions from the epa that perhaps they were doing this on their own. But there is a lot of paper trail that is the subject of many investigations and to some extent this summer is going to get worse as all of these investigations is going to produce reports. We are in the process of gathering the allegations as to reaching the point that these investigation also put them in paid or worse place potentially. One thing that has come through during your reporting and others reporting is it was clear that this behavior is viewed as abhorrent. Making people con comfortable from a basic ethics integrity. Can someone tell him we cant do this. Absolutely. And one of the things we reported yesterday in our story is both samantha dravis, and also Scott Pruitts chief of staff that they objected to this travel. On the record saying this to republican and democratic staffers in a setting that you could be liable if you make false statements. This is not something that was endorsed by many of the top folks who were picked by scott pruitt to pick in the federal government. Does that jive with what you have found too, eric . A lot of road kill from his closest people, the political staff has been hurt by this. And pruitt is still there in his position and a lot of feeling that they signed up for a mission to help him pursue and help him rollback from excessive, and they have gotten caught up and spuhurt by this. So we will see how it will play out. It is going to be a hard summer for scott pruitt is from i should tell. One motto is shamelessness is a superpower. Great to have you. Thank you. 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What is going on . I feel like this is, we are watching this hamlet routine played out in real time. What will Michael Cohen do. He is torn between his loyalties. Where are we at here . This chapter in the trumpian reality show is weird portion. We are very clearly at the point where we may or may not get an answer very soon about whether or not Michael Cohen will cooperate with the government. What i will tell you is that the decision for him to go on the record this week is thought about in his circles for months, something he has been desperate to do. This is a man who likes to tell his side of things, a pit bull and attack dog. The fact that he had an attorney urging him to be quiet is difficult for him to do. His old attorney is leaving at the end of the week and he is getting a new attorney. He is also going to be facing a string of attacks. Close friends, stranger on the street telling him, you can turn this whole thing around if you cooperate with the government. Going from a guy everyone is calling an idiot and become a hero. I like the idea of the sidewalk approach is working their way in the Michael Cohen factor. This is a man who has been alone essentially on an island in his hotel room. So those little interactions do matter. Keep working him over baristas of america. What rules does he need to learn. Keep your mouth shut because anything you say can be used against you later on cross examination. What might matter later is his image before a jury or other factfinder. If he is on record doing i will do what it takes to protect my family. He wants to reduce his prison time to help. So that is an important rule. The other is sometimes you have to wait and the waiting is the hardest part. It was attorneys and defendants say waiting. Temptation to do something, to control your own narrative. The prosecution isnt going to want to talk to him and work out any cooperation deal until it has their arms around those documents obtained in the search. I am sure the prosecutors in the Southern District of new york dont know what is in there and they are not going to offer any plea or sit down with him until they know what is in the documents so they can confront him with them and gage his truthfulness by confronting him with the documents. My advice is to sit tight and not worry about what the public thinks. One of the things that has been strange about this entire thing is how public facing all of the players have been been. Emily you are saying he is somebody who wants to defend himself. And that brings the question of the white house and the president , the messages they have been sending have been fairly muted. The National Enquire piece. He is prepared for an outright war to happen . What we saw in the interview this week is a step to get ahead of an outright war. He is going to have to remain silent if he is going to be cooperating with prosecutors. And i think there is a sense in his world that this was their shot to try to get ahead of what an outright war against him might look like when he can talk. I think we saw a little bit of a taste of it from Rudy Giuliani early on and some of the comments from the president himself saying he did such a small portion of the Trump Organization legal work. One thing that rankled Michael Cohen is when the president said i liked him. The use of the past tense was a Sticking Point and that was a subtle dig. I think there are potentially way more overt digs to come. And this week, this on the record interview was a chance to get ahead of that. Wait until you get a nickname. Thank you both for being with me. After the break, as a Senate IntelligenceCommittee Concludes that russia did help President Trump win the election. That stair next. Yo we got married honk if you like joint assets. 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I was in brussels less than two weeks ago at nato headquarters and met with some nato ambassadors and what i found was a state of anxiety heading towards the summit that takes place july certainly about what donald trump will say or do. Concern that summit meeting would overshadow the nato summit. Strange situation. Every sign that trump is prepared in some respects embrace adversary, russia. In this specific instance, i mean you have got the crazy spectacle that happens in canada, where he is meeting with the g7 and lashing out on everyone including canada. It seems like a similar set up here and this really in the goals that putin has, has got to be in the top three. Sure. And the other being unilateral lifting. I mean, it is kind of crazy to think trump, the way he approaches nato, it is all about money, and the way he approaches north korea and south korea, these military exercises is about money. Which celebrity leader can he strike a deal with and get a photo op with. And it is so divorced from what political policy and geo policy look like. He said this all throughout the campaign that nato is irrelevant and why dont we get along with russia. Nato is stupid, and nafta is stupid. Except in the first year of his president , we were lulled into complacency, because he was surrounded by people. All of those people have been pushed out. John bolton who was against engaging, he is just completely unfetterred and acting out his best instincts. Julia raises an interesting point, this phase to scramble to apiece russia. And then a kind of running up, political boundaries. Now a renewed interest in terms of a relationship with russia. I think tru