Comparison looney tunes is not exactly fair. Bugs bunny was a lot more clever than donald trump because it was the president s delusion that was on full display at his rally on saturday night in georgia. Which was supposed to be a campaign for the two incumbent republican seats fighting to keep their senate seats and control the republican senate. It was really a venue for trump to air his many petty grievances. It was festivus in georgia. Case in point. You know we won georgia, just so you understand. Weve never lost an election. Were winning this election. He also took aim at georgias top elected officials who are also republicans. You got to make sure your secretary of state knows what the hell hes doing and you got to make sure your governor gets a lot tougher than hes been. Your governor could stop it very easily, if he knew what the hell he was doing. As the atlantajournal constitution reported, this rally came just hours after trump called kemp to demand that kemp call a special session of the state legislature to overturn the election results, which kemp refused. I guess he was used to calling him on his cell phone when he needed a vote. Joining me now is christina greer, curt bardella, senior advise for the lincoln project, latisha brown, cofounder of black voters matter and marcus farrell. Curt, im going to start with you because youre a Country Music fan. Channel danie Charlie Daniels here. I told you once, you son of a gun, im the best thats ever been. Im looking at these poll numbers right now. Thank you, see, i knew youd appreciate that. That was impressive, jason. Wow, im blown away. Thank you. Thank you. Look, im lookingality these recent poll numbers weve got with the ossoff race with purdue and reverend warnock against loeffler. These look like pretty good numbers for a runoff length in a state that just turned blue about a month ago. Do you think that anything trump is going to do right now will have an impact on how this race is playing out . I think, jason, at this point the only effect trump could have on this race is a negative one for republicans. By continuing to assail republican officials in georgia like governor and secretary of state. By continuing to promote these baseless conspiracy theories in an effort to perpetrate a coup detat on america, he is basically telling voters in georgia the election system is one they cant trust. I think that realistically looking at special elections where turnout is everything, people are not conditioned to show and up vote on january 5th in georgia. This is about getting your side to turn out in the most robust numbers as possible. That can be the difference between winning and losing, and right now republicans in georgia are getting very mixed messages in an event thats supposed to be only about getting purdue and loeffler elected january 5th. Trump spent the entire time, not that this is shocking, talking himself, talking about his delusions and conspiracy theories and grievances and that does nothing to help david purdue and Kelly Loeffler. Theyre being put in an untenable position where they have to choose between our democracy and a wanna be dictator. None of those answers are going to be helpful for them to try to get their bases to show up and vote. Dr. Greer, if you had asked me to go through my georgia Runoff Election bingo card, mypillow guy would not be on it. Hes talking about crazy conspiracy theories what republicans plans actually are. I want to show this video and get your comment on the other side. Do we have the video . Okay, i guess we dont have the moo moo mypillow. Essentially what you have, dr. Greer, is a lot of people saying, hey, look, this is fake, this is nonsense, we cant understand how this election is going to work, dont vote. Do you think thats part of the anger and the noise at the time or do you think the local people are seeking this guidance and choosing not to participate in an election thats important . Well, we said all along, jason, you know, the Republican Party has turned into a cultlike scenario. So when Donald Trump Tells people not to vote, certain people wont vote, and what i think is inspirational for the democrats and they have to sort of stay the course is that the organizing in georgia for the democrats for progressive politics, for black people, didnt start after november 3rd. Its been going on for several years. New georgia project. Black voters matter. There are Many Organizations that have been working diligently for years, actually, to make sure residents in georgia understand whats at stake, not just on the federal level and not just with the president and congress, but the local, state and federal level politics and how it interacts in their lives. So when we have the president abusing the governor, republican governor, and the secretary of state, but we also have republicans saying i will not steal this election for you, and what youre saying, your rhetoric is actually quite dangerous and its putting us in danger. Weve seen, you know, when democrats are unhappy, they knit pink hats and go marching. When republicans are unhappy, they grab ar15s and start storming the bastille and knocking on the doors of the courthouse. Sadly, with that last rally there will likely be many residents of georgia who are quite ill because there were very few masks at the president s last superspreader event. Dr. Greer makes a really good point because, look, i for one am sick of giving republican officials credit for complaining now about the monster theyve created over the last four or five years. Gabe sterling out there saying, oh, my gosh, the violence is so terrible, while perpetuating the lie that Stacey Abrams never conceded her race. A full investigation into several organizations than Stacey Abrams started, the new georgia project, et cetera, et cetera, being investigated by brian kemp. As someone who was part of these organizations and the organizing in georgia, what do you think about republicans saying it was a rigged system while at the same time investigating organizations that are actually dedicated to getting people involved in voting . Its not surprising that i say its hypocrisy. And also, i just wanted to touch back on a former point. You have to be a special hot mess to make republicans depress their turnout in january on a special election, and that is exactly whats happening right now. I was in atlanta, georgia, driving up 85 and i saw a billboard that actually said since donald trump since Kelly Loeffler and purdue does not support donald trump, we should not support him. Wow. We should not support them. Yeah. Thats a real billboard thats going on. So, i mean, listen, the the hard work that was made by these organizations on the ground, black lives matter i mean black voters matter, new georgia project, fair fight, aclu just protecting the law, and, you know, black male voter project. All these organizations on the ground that have been working for the past few years. You match that with the amount of ineptitude and hot messiness th that is the republicans campaign for senate here in georgia, we may see a win. Nat is the most amazing thing to it. You know what . The Political Science term of hot messness, ill make sure we use that in future classes. Natasha, i want to get into some hardcore numbers here. Usually what weve seen in the past for Runoff Elections is that there is a drop, 20, 30, sometimes 40 . What does the dropoff rate have to be for democrats to still be successful . Can it only be 15 from the general election in november . Can it only be 20 . What do you guys have to see in order for this to be successful for ossoff and warnock . We are operating as if it can be zero dropoff rate. Okay. We cant lose anything at chance. We cant lose anything on the table. And so for us our goal is to turn out at the same levels now, we know that that is an uphill battle, but at the end of the day, we are in a state that when we were are talking about while trump is talking about voter fraud, there is no evidence of voter fraud, but aea preponderance of the evidence that there has been voter suppression. While these two seats are really critical for the nation, right . For the Democratic Party, theyre most important for people here in georgia. So we cant marcus, i want to what was that, latisha . We cant take any chances. Were trying to get it all. Okay. I heard a police car in the background. I couldnt quite tell. Marcus, i wanted to ask you this. This is also something that ive seen and its been a concern when ive talked to people in georgia. You have great organizers on the ground. You have latasha, black voters matter. There is always this influx of out of state consultants who have free time because their campaigns failed who suddenly start telling campaigns what to do. What do the Democratic Candidates right now, what do ossoff and warnock have to be careful of when it comes to the outside voices suddenly flooding the state for the turnout in january. Its interesting you said that, jason. After the general election was over, there was more white consultants that came down from d. C. Than playstation 5s. So at this point, what im thinking is that these campaigns need to just listen to the people on the ground. And, i mean, heres one thing that you have to understand, folks come into town wanting to take over narratives instead of trying to win an election, and thats a problem. So you cant take the same iowa tactic that didnt work for you in iowa and try to implement them with black voters. You got to listen to the aunties, the uncles on the treat. Because if you mess around and start doing work on your own outside of the parameter of people who have been here and doing work for years, youre going to start running iowa commercials. Turning down and suppressing a vote that obviously as latasha said, we need to leave every vote unturned. You can make one bad commercial or phone call or one bad decision politically and all of a sudden a whole neighborhood hates ossoff or warnock because you dont know what the hell youre doing. Thats right. Jason, to that point, you can say yall the wrong way in a commercial and we know that youre not from the area. I think what is really important in this election cycle, too, is were also seeing the closure of early voting sites. Thats something were paying extraordinarily close attention to. Are these early voting sites in places where you saw democratic votes . So i think weve got to keep all eyes on georgia, literally. And keep those eyes focused on what actually matters. Curt, i want to put this to you. Put on your republican hat for half a second. Theyve got this joe biden fight, circular firing squad, theyre all beating on each other. What on earth is the message republicans need to come up with in the middle of this infighting . Youve got trump attacking kemp over twitter. Gabe sterling saying this. Loeffler and purdue saying that. Can they come up with a coherent message out of this or are they just trying to depend on turnout . I think republicans at this point are going to have to depend on turnout. There is no cohesive message. One of the things that weve learned over the last four years is nothing republicans can say or do can be louder than what were hearing from donald trump. The one thing weve seen since the election is that donald trump is determined to be as loud as he possibly can from now until january 20th. There is no shutting him up. There is no hes going to go away or hes going to retreat or withdraw into the background. As we saw last night in georgia, he is determined, as always, to make everything about himself because thats the only mode that he knows, is 100 selfpromotion. Republicans in georgia, their only hope is that everyone shows up to vote because thats what republicans do. Republicans often rely on the fact that behaviorally republicans show up to vote, no matter what the condition is, no matter what when the election is, no matter whos on the ballot, republicans vote for republicans. They dont have the same turmoil that you often times see on the democratic side. Even if they think that the candidate isnt their ideal person, they will still vote for that person, as we saw with the robust numbers, higher numbers than we expected from republicans in this most recent elections. So republicans arent going to have a message other than what weve continually seen and there is no getting louder than donald trump. So theyre just going to have to make the best of it. Dr. Dr. Brier, very quickly. So donald trump is not on the ballot but Kelly Loeffler is and debating Raphael Warnock tonight. Im pretty skeptical whether debates make a difference in an election. Do you think tonight if there is some huge blunder on either side from warnock or loeffler that that could end up affecting turnout or do you think its going to be caught up in the overall morass of this campaign . I agree with you, jason, debates tend to not move the needle too much. They are really great, though, with fundraising. As we go into this final push, if warnock behaves the way he has been, very strong, steady, clear in his messaging, think that will help with fundraising to focus on turnout. With kelly loweffler, there wil be good sound bites to extract because of the Insider Trading allegations shes facing right now. I think if warnock makes a little drop motion like he did in his last commercial, hell probably win the entire debate. Christina will be next in our back hour. Thank you to our panel. Coming up, the challenges of convincing 350 million americans to get vaccinated. Alice loves the scent of gain so much, she wished there was a way to make it last longer. Say hello to your fairy godmother alice. And longlasting gain scent beads. Part of the irresistible scent collection from gain the teams been working around the clock. Wire, weve had to rethink our whole approach. Were going to give togetherness. Logistically, its been a nightmare. Im not sure its going to work. Itll work. I didnt know you were listening. Its time for us to stop being guinea pigs. Right. And people need to know where were coming from. Were not trying to be against everything, but we as a people have suffered. Thats right. Thats right. Weve gotten to a point where we just dont trust. Given this nations legacy of racism in medicine from denying treatment to black men with syphilis to the 1933 tuskegee study to the recent report of i. C. E. Detainees happening now. It comes as no surprise many black and brown americans are skeptical of a covid vaccine, even though the virus is disproportionately affecting their communities. Joining me now is dr. Patel, senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and senior msnbc medical contributor. And cochair for the louisiana governors covid19 Minority Task force. Dr. Awabare is also a principal investigators for the vaccine trial there is a slip from snl last night that i really think captures the skepticism many people have about a covid vaccine. I want your comments on the other side. The cdc has recommended that the first people in the u. S. To receive covid vaccines should be Health Care Workers and residents of nursing homes. While the first people to actually require it will be guests of colin and scotts holiday yacht party. I got mixed feelings on this vaccine. On the one hand im black, so naturally, i dont trust it, but on the other hand, im on a white tv show, so i might actually get the real one. Dr. Abare, i am black and i dont know what kind of tv show i am on, but i understand the skepticism being expressed in last nights segment. How do you battle that . Because were not just talking about people who are not educated and disconnected from medical science. Large numbers of educated, connected africanamericans are still skeptical about a vaccine. Well, in my newsroom right now, people are very, very skeptical. And these are very educated people. But one thing we have to do, we cant frame the situation without understanding the blame of the situation. And i say that because we have the a real historic distrust because of realities. We always talk about the tuskegee experiment, and that was a bad thing, but lets not forget that africanamerican women that are giving birth right now have a higher chance of dying during childbirth than some developing countries. Lets not forget the social determinants in america make it so a black child not taken care of by a black doctor has an increased risk of dies when in hospital. These are things not from tuskegee experiment days, these are things happening right now. So when you look at this whole concept of guinea pigs, you must understand that this is not a joke, but that it is very real and there is a reason why people feel this way. Grave robbing from medical school so that people could actually experiment on black cadavers. All of these things are ghosts of our past. The reality now that you have to remember is that we are dying more than any other group, africanamericans are, its the leading cause covid19 is the leading cause of death in the america among all groups. Right. But africanamericans are dying at disproportionate rates. So thats why as a as a professor, as a doctor, as a principal investigator, i have to do these Clinical Trials so that i can put africanamericans in it so we can know if they work. And thats why we have to step up as scientists, we have to step up as leaders in our communities and say, this must be done. Because, look, you dont want to get a vaccine that wont work on you. You dont want to get a vaccine right. That will be harmful to you, right . So you got to be in it to know. Dr. Patel, theres a new survey out that shows sort of receptiveness to the vaccine and its broken down by race, which groups of people are more comfortable with it. When you see these kinds of numbers were going to flash on the screen in a second. When you see these kinds of numbers, what do you think will have to happen from a messaging standpoint . Will there have to be tailored messages to different ethnic communities in america in order to convince them to participate in addition to the logistic challenges that will be faced . Jason, absolutely, and thanks for bringing this topic up because its an important one. I think, number one, we actually have to understand who has trust amongst community members. I think its kind of hypocritical for doctors like me to think, oh, we trust the hospital, for all the reasons that were talking about this morning. Or that we trust research institutions. If you actually live and work in these communities, you learn that the trusted person is the schoolteacher or the principal or