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MSNBCW Ayman July 3, 2024

Coming up on ayman, lawmakers return to the hill, with a big todo list. But hardliner House Republicans are threatening to shut it all down unless they get what they want, and that is an Impeachment Vote against joe biden. Plus, a group of colorado voters are suing to keep donald trump off the 2020 ballot. Runs the organization hoping that hes going to join us live on the show. In the Ultra Conservative Fifth Circuit says those Controversial Border buoys can remain in the rio grande river. Even as tragedies mount. Im ayman lets get started i this week, lawmakers return to washington, with a bloated and urgent to do less ahead of them. On the agenda, an Emergency Funding Request from the Biden Administration for disaster, eight following the fires in maui, and hurricane a dahlia. Passing a reauthorizing the fa, the debate about more money for ukraine. More and more. And most critically, staving off another government shutdown, by a federal budget, by September 30th Deadline now, you are forgiven if you didnt realize that Congress Passed such a stacked docket, considering republicans like Kevin Mccarthy, well, it seems they are focused on an entirely different priority. Maybe on a different planet. Right now, they are focusing on impeaching president biden. You have, you heard that correctly. Despite the fact that the house is only scheduled to be for 11 days before the end of the fiscal year, youve got representatives Marjorie Taylor greene and ralph norman, among those pushing to open Impeachment Inquiry into the commander in chief, right now. Green took it a step further, saying she wont support any funding measure, until the house votes to formally begin an inquiry. Thats good news for donald trump, who recently took to his failed social media platform, to say, republicans dont need a long inquiry to have enough information to impeach biden. Fortunately, others in mccarthys caucus still recognize that the proposal for the ridiculous farce that it is. More moderate members of his caucus, like congressman dan bacon, are saying there isnt enough concrete evidence to launch an inquiry. And mccarthys gop colleagues in the senate are even less infused. Asked if she believes there is enough evidence to impeach biden, west virginias Arch Conservative senator sally moore cando, also a member of the senate gop leadership said, i do not. Thats pretty blunt. Now, if you want to know how we got here, all youve got to do is look at Kevin Mccarthy. He is stuck in the problem of his own making, and no one else is. This, all after he sold his political soul to the most radical members of his coalition, to become house speaker. These extreme republicans. Well, they are demanding an impeachment. Pushed, even if it is nonsensical, even if it goes nowhere in the senate. And even if it is a political disaster that Everybody Knows it is. Mccarthy enabled the road but now, he doesnt seem able to contain it. Joining me now are former congressman he was also a 2020 president ial candidate, Pennsylvania State representative matthew and kimberly atkins, msnbc political analysts at the boston globe, and cohost of the sisters in law pockets. Its great to have all of you with us. Kimberly, i spoke with congressman jamie raskin about this republican Impeachment Push last night, and i thought would be a good place to start. I want you to take a listen to what he had to say, and then, i will get your thoughts. They are going to impeachment, simply because donald trump feels like he doesnt want to run against someone whos not been impeached, when he is the first twice impeached president in u. S. History. I keep reminding my republican colleagues that the constitutional standard for impeachment is treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. And they havent laid any wrongdoing at the footsteps of joe biden. Theyve got nothing on him. Theyve got 91 criminal charges against donald trump, in courts all across the land. And theres nothing against joe biden. And trump cant live with that. So kimberly, do you think that is a fair analysis of trumps motivations here . And while House Republicans seriously risk shutting down the government, over something that is so political, and so petty . Yeah, this is how we got here. There are a handful of members of congress, who are still doing the bidding of donald trump. Donald trump wants an impeachment of joe biden, for purely political reasons, and is pushing House Republicans to do it, and some are willing, to even so far as congresswoman greene saying that she wont, she would try to stop any vote on keeping the lights on, and avoiding a government shutdown, in order to get an Impeachment Vote. There are a couple of problems here. One, that contingent of republicans in the house represent a very small percentage of the u. S. Voting electorate. And so, that will likely turn out to be unpopular. You also have the problem that a shutdown of the government, people stop getting paid, or getting the relief that they need, that will also be a big problem. In the third is that even if you take all of the inferences, and whatever has been found out of the hunter biden, and how that relates to joe biden, that doesnt even come close to an equivalent with what donald trump was last impeached for, which was with aiding an insurrection in an effort to overturn the government. So donald from once that equivalent, but even members of the, as you said, republicans in the senate all think that that is ridiculous. And in the end, politically, it could only backfire. Joe, the last time republicans tried impeaching a democrat president without broad support for the right people, it backfired dramatically. And of course, i am talking about new gingrichs move to impeach bill clinton, and how severely he and the House Republicans were punished electorally for it in 1998. Could the same thing play out here . Oh absolutely. And look, or publicans, are going to lose the house because they are doing this. But, we knew this when republicans took control of the house. They told us, before they won in 2022, they told us these two years were all going to be about retribution, revenge, for how they believe donald trump was treated. And they were going to investigate biden, and everybody who works for biden. I will quibble with this amen. I dont think its just a small, Marjorie Taylor greene and crazy small caucus. Look, weve got to wrap our arms around the fact that the vast majority of republican primary voters still dont believe biden won. The vast majority of Republican Voters want joe biden impeached. The Republican Party base, amen, is radicalized, in this House Conference and its reflecting. That yeah, thats a very important point. And im glad that you bring it up to give us the context of where the Republican Party is in this moment of time so i guess picking up on that, malcolm, what do you make of folks like Marjorie Taylor greene saying that she will only vote to prevent a government shutdown, if the house opens an Impeachment Inquiry meeting. Basically, she is taking the u. S. Government hostage, to get her way. You know aymen, present company not included, i think this could be a moment for the american media. Are we going to treat this jack off jamboree like it has this or are we going to treat it like the side show that it is. I mean, think about whats happening in pennsylvania, and across the country right now. And what this administration has done. You have this house leadership, who has made it clear, they want to reverse the ability for governments to negotiate and bring down the cost of prescription drugs. They want to do everything in their power to not give students desperately from student loans. And when you look at Marjorie Taylor greene and others, who are pushing for this, frankly they are very clear, the only high crime they think joe biden committed was winning the 2020 election. And, this lack of focus on the real world concerns of everyday American People, i will tell you, its why people hate politics. And i will agree with the former congressman, it is there for going to and joe biden is going to be reelected. This is nonsense. Now i think a large swath of the American People do see it. Kimberly, i have no sympathy for Kevin Mccarthy. This is his bed, he made it. But i can imagine that he is quite frustrated right now, because he empowered all of the farright characters, who are now demanding this Impeachment Inquiry, who convinced the base that it is necessary. Who knows it is not going anywhere in the senate. And yet, he has to deal with it. He does. I mean, i think that this reflects how fractured, even within this republican controlled house, his support is. Just getting the gavel, required him to make that, really horrible deal that he made, that basically any time that anyone in his caucus is unhappy, they can threaten to take that gavel away. But that was the only way he could get the power, and he was still caught between trying to keep absolutely anything done, to feeling the pressure not just from the more radicalized part of his caucus, but also donald trump. And, he made this bed, and now he is lying in it. Joe, give me your thoughts on where Kevin Mccarthy finds himself. I know you have no sympathy for him, but this is something, you and i talked about this i think, back in january, when he was going through his 21 different rounds of being voted in. And we were, like he is going to find himself, at some point in this term, with his back up against the wall, held hostage by these far right, Marjorie Taylor greene,s and the acolytes in congress. But, what do you think his options are at this moment . Yeah im aymen, no tears for mccarthy. He got screwed, but he screwed himself. Heres what mccarthy is going to do. I think the play here, i think is his only play here is to convince most of his conference that we cannot shut the government down. And to do that, he will get a promise from his conference, to proceed with an Impeachment Inquiry. Thats a bad road, thats a whole thing to do. But at the end of the day, hes going to give the republicans that bone to keep the government funded. Malcolm, what are the chances of the government shuts down, come the end of the month . We you know, we are going to find out. They are too high for comfort, we knew that Kevin Mccarthy had no courage, now we are funny and that he doesnt have a brain, and he doesnt have a heart. Because a shutdown would hurt the American People, in ways that, i dont think we are talking about enough. He is treating this with the lack of seriousness to be the speaker of the house. And i say all the time, you dont have to be in house leadership, just because you are a member of congress. If you cant go to your caucus and say, this is a bad idea. And as your leader, we are not going to do it. Then you dont have the right to lead. If you cant be honest with your caucus, or with the American People. No courage, no heart, no brain. I think Kevin Mccarthy is the new Campaign Slogan for the mccarthy campaign, in 2024 [laughter]. Joe walsh, malcolm kimberly atkins, its always a real pleasure to hear from you, thank you so much. We want to switch gears now and get a quick update on that deadly earthquake in morocco. Nbcs raf sanchez is there with an update. Raf. What for the race to find survivors across the disaster zone, here in morocco, is growing more desperate by the hour. We saw those efforts of close earlier, in the village of. It was about 30 miles east of the earthquake epicenter. And we saw devastation there. The narrow alleys of what was once the Villages Market are now filled with rubble and debris. This was a community of 3000 people. The locals told us that 40 members of the village had been killed in the earthquake. Thats more than 1 of the overall community. Among them was the wife, three children, and the baby son of a man we met called. He told us that he doesnt know what he is living for anymore. He does not know how he is going to continue his life with that scale of loss. And they are just part of a National Death toll, that is now above 2100 people. But despite all the heartbreak in this country, the Rescue Efforts continue. We saw professional rescue teams, from turkey to italy, working alongside local volunteers, people who just hands by patient hands, were trying to dig their neighbors out from underneath the rubble. In that community, there was one rescue earlier, which is giving people hope that there may be more survivors still to be found. The Rescue Experts will tell you, the first 72 hours after a disaster are absolutely critical. And so, it may be that the coming day is really the last, best chance for finding people alive. Back to you. Our thanks to Raf Sanchez In Morocco for that update. A group of colorado voters filed a lawsuit to try to keep trump off of the 2024 ballot. Crew president Noah Bookbinder is helping him do that. He is going to join me live, coming up. Coming up. Tourists tourists that turn into scientists. Tourists photographing thousands of miles of remote coral reefs. That can be analyzed by ai in real time. So researchers can identify which areas are at risk. 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