And, you know, i honestly think that and i say this and maybe its not politically correct, but i think that joe biden was the only one who could have done this and he met the moment and people trust him. Hes got so much empathy. He knows how to work with folks and get things done so im so happy, ari. But mostly its relief, you know . Jonathan . I think i also share the relief as someone whos undocumented and whos been fighting the politics of fear and hate of this administration, it is such a relief for our communities across the country to be able to say to stop the bleeding, right . Because we know one election is not going to bring the justice were fighting for, but we know it has and will make a big difference. So to me i took yesterday and im taking today to celebrate. And tomorrow were right back to work, right back to bringing and fighting for the future we all deserve. Yeah, and as you say thats certainly the Bidenharris Administration plan because were seeing them go right back to work tomorrow, first workday of all this regardless how donald trump handles it. So if the workday is tomorrow, that means tonight were not yet back to the workday. And so i want to get into some of the memes. These are going viral online, but not everyone looks a thlt same thing. Some of them are so good we cut them for air. There was a famous clip of joe biden in september when he took out his cellphone to play the hit song despacito. Someone remixed that. Take a look. Hang on here. You about to lose your job jason . Ari, the original version of that was actually it was actually changed to you about to lose your job. I think what that reflects is theres been a tremendous amount of creative joy about donald trump being pushed out of office. The memes from making fun of nevada to the nation being saved by atlanta to various clips from key and peele about the president saying thank you youre welcome to all sorts of different kinds of states and ignoring people in different parts of the country its like a creative expleosion, and weve seen this. You have artists, creators, musicians sort of coming outmism i dont think we are going to fully recognize for a couple of weeks maybe even months how much repression culturally there was with the Trump Administration and how free people are going to feel afterwards. Well, jason putting us on the to the fact there were remixed versions with fdt on it and it was too hot, its going to go viral pretty hot. Weigh in and i have a question for you as well. What i really want to talk about, ari, is really talking about the people who made this possible. Like i love taking a second to enjoy and really celebrate this moment, but i really want to make sure were giving credit to the organizers, to the young people who came out and voted in record numbers, in key states like arizona and wisconsin and pennsylvania. To me what im holding in this moment is how are we as a country going to deliver for them the way that they delivered on Election Night . Yeah, fair. Senator boxer, i saw ava today posted about the great creativity. She said try to do your job in a way if you lose the people arent dancing in it streets all over the world. Senator . Yes. I mean, when i saw that explosion that spontaneous explosion of joy i mean no one really organized it. People just came out. You know, im old enough i wasnt old enough to see the celebrations after world war ii, but i was born right during world war ii. And those famous photos, those iconic photos of people just streaming out, and of course the historians are basically telling us this is what happens when dictators get overthrown. People just come out and celebrate. And its stunning. When i heard that i stopped in my tracks. You know, ive been through five president s. Ive served with five president s. Ive seen transitions. Ive never seen any president act like this. But i have to tell you even after barack obama got elected and my heart swelled and i thought the whole world was better, i thought everything was done, you know . And nobody went into the street. They went into the street after this trump. And it says so much, and historians when they do write about it i think its going to be a page of the book. Just last point i know how much you love music. Six seconds before it was announced that the networks had given it to biden i was on my ellipical in my garage listening to youre going to think im so old lambert hendrikson ross and you probably dont know who they are, but i thought i love this. Im going to switchover to msnbc. The moment they announced it, jumped off, ran to tell my husband, almost killed myself. But im here. Youre here. Yes, were glad youre here through the five president s that youve worked along side in the senate and the experience you bring. It is were talking about and its hard what do woe do in our jobs . We do reporting, we use sourcing, we use words, we show the videos. Its hard to get through the camera here and even showing all these things we went to the memes a little bit, jason, because its hard to get to that next level and brings a point i want you to speak on Michelle Goldberg raised earlier in our previous hour which was are they going to go around now and ask of the rest of america to do what was asked after 16, to try to the trump voter, do you want to understand the biden voter and understand why is it as the senator just spoke about so many people feel liberated . What is it about the way the government is running you have a difference over how big should the federal education be or should it be more locally funded. Okay, thats a debate. The people arent dancing in the streets over that. Theyre dancing in the streets over why they feel finally liberated. Yeah, ari. This is an important Historic Context that i think Everybody Needs to understand. Usually you dont get in countries even democracies as old as ours, usually you dont get rid of an aspiring dictator through the electoral process. Philippines is going to have problems with duterte, putin is not going to leave until he wants to leave. The idea that america and im not usually heavy on american exceptionalism, but given the ways donald trump had cheated, hed perverted everything from the post office to the department of justice to basically turning the republicans in congress into his own personal weng of power and abuse, the fact we were able to remove somebody like that through the peaceful process of voting is miraculous. That is historic on so many different levels. And people were out there because we have liberated ourselves without having to shoot anybody. And thats Pretty Amazing for american history. Well, when you put it that way its like a riddle. Whens the last time that someone holding onto an authoritarian type goal was thrown out through a democratic process . To your point here its not my job to tell people how to vote or what to think. Its an objective fact donald trump openly talked about breaking election law, having his supporters vote multiple times and other people not and all the rest. Senator . Well, the power of the rote is so strong, and the message got through to the people, to an incredible, you know, coalition of people who look different, pray different, love different, you know, have different economic values and so on and so forth. But they understood. You know, the big mistake trump made is he kept trying to take away our vote. And people, especially young people, you know, they want to be part of a revolution. And voting never was cool before. And now it was cool because why . Trump kept saying, oh, you know, were not going to let these people vote, we can take away the votes of these people, its all fraudulent. And all of a sudden people said, uhuh, were not going there. So the beauty of this is the power of the vote. And ive often said when you get in that in that voting booth this time a lot of us did it right at home. You are as powerful as the most powerful ceo or anybody else. It is our vote, and i think the country is going to change because i think when young people vote they keep voting. I mean, theyre not going to just now turn away, and we have to focus on georgia. And now we have to take this to georgia, and i am so excited at the prospect of this ticket, which is historic in many ways, that ticket that were going to be voting for. Well, i hope youre right. I hope youre right, senator. I hope voting stays cool. This was a tremendous way to keck off the hour. I appreciate each of you. 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And katey kay, anchor for bbc news. Theres fascinating reporting ive been reading with people really opening up in ways we havent seen before. I want to read something here about people in trump world basically trying to pin a lot of this on jared kushner. Politico reporting kushner began to take on his hands on role demanding details from everything from finances to messaging when he was not in charge of the campaign technically. A trump ally tells the paper the only constnlt in this campaign from day one to the very last day is kushner adding if the president wins kushner deserves credit but if he loses kushner deserves the blame. We see these trump advisers turning on themselves sometimes on the record. I mean, what happens when you lose in a campaign is that very quickly you look for somebody else to blame particularly when you have a president who himself has admitted he finds losing very difficult, right . And this will come from the top. Donald trump has yet to concede. He has yet to tell the American People that joe biden won fair and square. Hes still searching for reasons that this might have been stolen from him, and that trickles down throughout the campaign. Theyre going to constantly be trying to find people to blame. I think one of the tenants of the Trump Presidency that lots of people have covered and other presidencies have remarked on is actually there are very few people around donald trump who are really loyal to him, who really like him, respect him, would go out of their way for him. You know, just look at the turnover in the white house. It is unprecedented the amount of turnover there has been, and he has had an ability to hire and fire people, and that doesnt do great things. Then when youre in a foxhole and you need someone to help get you out, there arent many people around. And it doesnt surprise me weve got members of the campaign looking to blame other people. Its a great point she makes. And tony, it speaks to an accountable truth that might disagree with the narrative. The narrative is oh, he gets away with everything and he gets away with some things but not everything. And theres a view here not only did he just lose and hes the loser. I dont say that perjortively but hes the loser of this race. Were seeing in this reporting a trump pollster back in july put together a 79page exhaustive memo. He had to reverse course, he had to encourage supporters to vote by mail rather than bashing it, to address the virus before trying to open the economy, to mandate face masks rather than mocking them. Each of those being straig straightforward things from the rather intense political headline this fing virus quoteunquote. But these are trumps people saying its his fault. Im going to go with kattey is blame goes around. And trump has to blame because its intolerable for him to think himself as anything but a winner. Loser is to be obliterated and not exist, so he will never concede that he lost. But i was reading cast, isabelle wilkersons extraordinary new book today, and i read a quote that seems so relevant to this moment. Shes talking about dehumanization, and she says its a war against truth. To dehumanize another human being is not merely to declare that someone is not human, and it does not happen by accident. Its a promise. Its a programming. It takes energy and reinforcement to deny what is selfevident and another member of ones species. And it made me think, ari, that what we need right now and i do think biden is maybe ideally positioned to do this is we need to rehumanize, not demonize. We need to rehumanize america and americans because the american infliction mostly unspoken is the fear of not being good enough and the need as a result to feel better than by dehumanizing and demonizing others. But trump trump may be the first leader ever to do that to supporters and detractors alike. If you think about covid what he did to all of us in his handling of it is to make us sick and actually to be responsible for the death of what is now going to be almost a quarter of a million lives. This is man who earned his loss. Well, as you say that approach of its important you mention demeaning many but also his own people. We saw that in these bizarre closing rallies where he was saying i didnt want to be here, i wouldnt come back here but for my own political survival on the line. And it was a contrast, again, i want to reach into some of this brand new reporting, the reporting after the loss. Biden was criticized at times over how they didnt do inperson campaigning. His campaign telling the Washington Post it was an easy decision, a Senior Advisor adding only in trumps america does the fact when he listens to medical experts become a shocking political decision. Look, i have spoken to Democratic Candidates during the course of this campaign in states like georgia and florida when i was traveling down there who did express frustration with the fact they couldnt do inperson events, that there wasnt more door knocking in person over the course of the summer when perhaps people felt a little more comfortable because the virus seemed to be receding a little bit. So its fair to say that there was frustration, and its also possible that we will look back, you know, once we have all the numbers. In its early days we dont have all the data from this campaign and look at those rallies of President Trumps and find they did actually drive out turnout. You know, something accounts for the fact there was a big turnout for President Trump on election day. And, you know, some of its extraordinary. You look at the 936 counties in america that have the highest cases of the corona so 376 counties in america that have the highest cases of coronavirus. 93 of them voted for trump. So there were plenty of people out there around this country who saw the coronavirus in their communities. I mean some of these counties are small. You know people who have the coronavirus, and yet donald trump was winning those counties in a landslide. So the impact of the coronavirus i think on this campaign is one we will still have to continue to study, but its a more nuanced mixed confusing picture, perhaps, than we might have thought a couple of weeks ago. Well, i appreciate as always your rigorous approach to the underlying data, and when i was pouring over the actual vote tallies i noticed that seniors said they prefer trumps handling of the coronavirus to biden. So either they do or they just prefer trump and claim to support him on any random topic. People can debate out what those numbers mean, tony, but they dont suggest the atrisk pool, the senior pool had some seat change on that. The last thing i want to get tony here on is donald trump hasnt spoken in two days. When will we hear from him . How will he process this loss as everyone abandons him . So i dont think hes able to process the loss. I dont think as i said earlier i dont think theres any chance hell say hes lost. Hes turned a defeat into or hes portrayed defeat as victory a million times. Were rounding the corner on covid as we hit record numbers if you listen to donald trump. So i expect him to fashion a way of explaining this loss by doing what weve been talking about throughout this segment which is by blaming others, that jared will come high in that. Almost everybody around him is going to get it because at this point trump is incredibly isolated. He has basically reduced his circle to almost nonexistent. So you can expect trump to attack anybody. Maybe his three oldest kids have an exception, but even they could become the one thing donald trump cant do is be the person who is responsible for this. Really fast, two of our experts i want to thank you. Up ahead in our special coverage the actress and activist eva longoria is here. She of course was a big part of this on that convention stage. But up next is my special report on what the end of the trump era means as we go forward. The trua means as we go forward now we turn to the meaning of it all, the end of this trump era. Lets start with the facts. President elect joe biden is the winner of the election. Donald trump is the loser of the election. Donald trump got fewer votes than biden just as he got fewer votes than clinton. Hes the only president to ever lose the total vote twice. Both times he ran for president. And it was not immediately visible on that unfolding Election Night with results trickling in for election where americans shifted how they vote for this pandemic. And while it