Doves cry will the real donald trump please stand up. Lets play hardball. Good evening. Im chris matthews. As trump storms toward the nomination, can question republicans are asking is can he pivot. He boasted about his own polls. Can he come across as president ial . According to the wall street, changes are taking place. He will deliver a policy speech on foreign policy. He will start using teleprompters on occasion and
hire a speech writer. The campaign is evolving and so am i. Trumps Senior Advisor told nbc news that the campaign is moving to patch things up with the republican party. Were here to let them know that were going to run a Traditional Campaign with them. Were the nominee of the republican party. Its going to be a trump brand of the party. We are republicans. Were running as team. Some are skeptical. The journals own Editorial Board wrote miracles happen. He did control his political id on tuesday night but mr. Trumps inner hooligan never stays locked up for long. He refrained from using lying ted and he focused on the issue of jobs. Lets watch this. We dont have much of race
anymore based on what im seeing on television. Senator cruz is just about mathematically eliminated. This country is great. We have such potential, bill. Were not using it. It didnt take long for the old trump to return. You look at a guy like kasich, hes never been hit by an ad because nobody cares, frankly. Its so true. Were going to beat crooked hillary. I watched her last night during her speech. I watched those two teleprompters out there. She goes were going to cover from north to south to east to west. Honestly, do you think this happens with lying ted cruz and then they start falling to sleep listening to this guy with dramatics. We will fight. We protect all of these foreign nations. We protect germany. We protect japan. We protect south korea and saudi arabia. Its called the club for growth. You ever hear of these losers. Do we like the media . No. Do we hate the media . Yes. Michael steele is the former chairman of that party. The Republican National committee. Kelly conway is a republican pollster and president of a procruz super pac. Just a republican strategist. Lets have some fun. Tell me about donald trump. Were always told be who you are. They say just be yourself. Whos the yourself here. The yourself is the person you have been seen for a year talking at podiums and rallies with no notes and no net. Now, hes going to use a speech writer, teleprompters. They keep using the word traditional to explain the campaign changes. When voters hear and see the new team, they see establishment. Exactly what he has railed against. Michael, if you see a trump rally and one of the 10,000 people that show up and he does a speech on foreign relations, youre going to be so mad. He wasnt there. Hes not going to do that. Well use that teleprompter and the speech writer. Is it going to say lying ted . It may not. When he does like hes going to give policy speech on foreign policy, hell use that. That will be the traditional tools. What you say the day afterwards when he was in front of his peeps and doing his thing, he was riffing and doing the live shot. I know people at home, a lot of people think you cant laugh at trump if you dont agree with him. Thats not true. Theres something comical about him. If youre disgusted with him, its ridiculous. He just cant go i disapprove of
that. When he did the aiepec speech, he knocked it out of the park. He new yorked it out of the park. Most of the party is moving towards trump because he will be inevitable. Hes won the most delegates. Hes winning state after state. None of us like it, but were all trying to deal with it. On the today show this morning he explained why he couldnt act president ial so far in the race. He was being attacked by his opponents. Everybody gets attacked. I felt i had to act back. Its easier for me to be president ial than for me to be doing what ive been doing for the last nine months. At the right time i will be so president ial, youll be so
bored. Youll say cant he have a little bit more energy. I know when to be president ial. We have gotten used to something about trump. The hair, the whole look. Theres a whole kind of aspect to it that isnt normal to us. They cheer him. They like him. The number up with words in branding and marketing is new. People like fresh and new. Nobody confusing Hillary Clinton as fresh as new. Nobody confuses a lot of republicans who ran as fresh and new. Hes a shot of whiskey in a white wine spritzer political discourse. Thats what sustained him. He doesnt have a majority of republicans with him. He needs to repair his relationship with women. He was keeping pace with Hillary Clinton. The comment about abortion in. He had four positions on abortion in one day. I think that plus the riots and retweeting of heidi cruz. He can repair all that because in middecember he was at his best. He took on bill and Hillary Clinton. The base loved it. The cruz voters loved it. His answers seemed to go against the grain of usual republican talking points. Listen to this. The republican platform, every four years, has a
provision that states the right of the unborn child shall not be infringed. It makes no exceptions for rape, incest or life of the mother. Would you want to change the republican platform to include the exceptions you have . I would. Do believe in raises taxes on the wealthy . I do, including myself. I do. He was asked about that new North Carolina bathroom dispute. Here is what he said about that. North carolina did something very strong and theyre paying a big price. Theres a lot of problems. I heard one of the best answers was from a commentator saying leaving it the way it is. People go. They use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate. There has been so little trouble. If Caitlyn Jenner would walk into trump tower, you would be
fine with her using any bathroom she chooses . Thats correct. Most people have gotten to ignore the platform. My hunch is, i dont want to be disrespectful of the views that we have here, i think these exceptions to the prolife position are offered up not because they happen a lot but to suggest im not absolutely against it. It suggests to me an open mind a little bit. Its an important cue to voters why hes doing that now. The high language has been the place where most republicans have campaigned at. Which is . Exceptions for rape and incest. And life of the mother. Life of the mother. The party has gone further. What trump is doing is smart politically. They are raising taxes on rich people. Thats also smart. On rich people. Why is what he says seems to be important in the northeast where you have people who are prolife but have these exceptions . I think its to send a signal. I think its also what he believes. Hes been very public. Ive heard it from him privately he was prochoice for a long time or didnt think about it that much. A friend was pregnant unexpectedly and she kept the baby so he became prolife. Let me say this, i hope the republican nominee takes the opportunity to have a twoway conversation on abortion. The democratic platform is ridiculously extreme. Talk about no exceptions. Its abortion any one, any time, in where. I hope somebody has the guts to at least ask Hillary Clinton. How about late term abortion. How about pain capable fetal
pain abortion. Ted cruz was quick to comment. Lets watch that. Donald agreed with Hillary Clinton and barack obama for attacking North Carolina for passing the bathroom ordinance. He said he thought men should be able to go into the girls bathroom if they want to. Let me ask you, have we gone stark raving nuts . This is the political correctness. This is basic common sense. It would cause a stir. If you obey this North Carolina, youre causing confusion. If you come across to most people who dont pay that much attention as a female or male and go to the bathroom that seems to fit, that would be okay
to most people. They would say yeah. This is why i think its a strange law. Why do people come up with laws that will create confusion and disorder . These laws are playing to a particular idea or perception about transgender individuals. Theyre playing to that. What ted cruz is doing is a little bit of same thing. Playing to that. Hes in fredricks, maryland. It would play well there. He wouldnt have that in Prince Georges County or baltimore. Thats what donald trump has done on abortion and issue like this. Trying to move the party back to where it once was. I think hes doing to miss the mark with that. Thank you. Its great to have you on. Thank you. Youre a hard get. Coming up, Hillary Clintons on pace right now to win the democratic nomination and now the Vice President ial running
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enough to keep wall street in check. Lets hear her. President obama led the effort to pass the doddfrank bill. That is the law. This is our nineth debate. In the prior eight debates, i have said we have a law. You dont just say were upset about this. Im upset about it. You dont just say go break them up. You have a law because were a nation of laws. Earlier this month sanders opponents knew how he would break up the banks after he struggled to come up with a clear answer in an interview with the new york daily news. Here is how sanders clarified his answer on morning joe. You do it in a couple of ways. Use section 121 of the doddfrank legislation. With my legislation that ive introduced says that the secretary of the treasury will have the authority to investigate and determine which
banks pose risks to our economy. Joining me is barney frank of massachusetts. Let me ask you about your what is too big to fail mean to you . What is we got to break up the big banks mean in policy terms . Im not sure what break up the big banks mean. Theres a contradiction. Its much more reasonable than his kind of rallying. He said we got to break them up. Theyre too big. Its a key problem. He doesnt say how big is too big. You cant say were going to break them up so none of them are bigger than they should be if you cant tell me what they should be. The key mistake is this. This problem is not the size of the financial institution, its the size of the debts they run up. Thats what cause the problem in 2008. Institutions not the biggest, aig and Lehman Brothers got more
debt than they could pay off. We have approached that in the law in three ways. Todays wall street journal, hardly fan of the bill acknowledges talking about Goldman Sachs that the law is working. The kind of risky deals they made, they cant make anymore. What do you think of crowd, im watching those young people theyre not probably financial experts. Im not one. They cheer like mad when he says lets break up the big banks. Its an applause line. The that about the danger of a bank causing a 2008 coming again on just anger against big economic power in the hands of the few . Isnt that what hes arguing . Its not big economic power in the hands of the few because they dont have a great deal of
economic power. Were saying is you cant use your own money. Youre there to serve other people and serve them. What you have is first of all, understandable resentimement wh i shared. Secondly, they are the most visible symbols of the increased inequality we have had. Thats a tough issue to deal with. It has to take specific ways. We have severely limited the ability to run up debts they cant pay off. They cant make the bad bets. They have to have money to stand behind it. They have to submit these living wills. They have to tell how they would break themselves up if things got bad. The regulators can say you
havent done a good enough job. If all else fails that i understand go out of business, they fail. It would be illegal for any federal official to advance think money to one of those constituti institutions to pay the debts without dissolving them and secretary of treasury is mandated to cover anything laid out from financial institutions. Thank you so much. Barney frank, one of the names this the doddfrank bill. Thank you to your contributions. Sanders has been arguing he, not clinton would perform better than the republican candidate in november. Here is sanders today with andrea mitchell. If after june 7th, after california, if you dont have a majority, if she has a majority and more of the popular vote, would you then concede, endorse her the way she did of barack
obama . If we do not have a majority, i think its going to be hard for us to win. The only fact that i think remains uncertain is if we continue to be running significantly stronger than she is against donald trump or whoever the republican nominee will be. I think thats a factor. David corning points out sanders has yet to face a true negative ad campaign aimed at destroying his public image. Were he to be the democratic nominee he would be confronted with hundreds of millions of dollars in negative ads designed to rip him apart. Hes a selfproclaimed socialist. Im joined by tad divine. Two questions that are both related. If sanders believes hes a stronger candidate to beat trump or cruz in the fall, then he can do just about anything to get the nomination in terms of morality. If has to be the one to save the
center left or the left then he has to do some tough stuff. Your views. I think hes a stronger candidate than hillary for a lot of reasons. He can attract support from independents and she cant. She won in new york. Independents cant vote. He can do something she cant do with the voting population. He can bring young people into the process the way barack obama did in 2008. Those two factors bringing if large numbers is the reason hes a strong candidate. Hes arguing hillary has been pummelled for having the wrong glasses, hairdo. Shes been hits since she was in
national limelig the limelight. Can bernie take the shots . What about the center right and the right when they start hearing the suburbs, this guy is coming to get your money . They launched the most vicious, negative campaign. Not just in that state but in america. The worst youve seen. You know what it did, we lost no vote. We never ran a negative ad against the guy. He not only survived it, he thrived on it. The same will be true here. On november 19th last year he gave a speech describing his political philosophy. This isnt a state secret. The name is out there. Two words is going to defeat him. Its going to happen. Im going to give a broader
statement. The other guy that does well in terms of a net positive is john kasich. They have not been the main target of all the vicious attack lines. Trump attacks his opponents. He doesnt attack kasich. Hillary doesnt attack bernie. The fact that bernie is honest about his political philosophy is one of the great proof points of his candidacy. I dont think it will hurt him at all. Wed love to talk about it. We may not find out. Thank you. Connecticut governor is coming here just days ahead of his states primary. Thats coming up next tuesday too. Tomorrow night, you got to watch this. Join me for an indepth look at Hillary Clinton in my documentary, it takes a country. Thats friday night here on msnbc. One crest 3d white smile. Is all it takes. To turn the tables. Crest 3d white toothpaste. Removes 5 times more stains. Than the red box. For a smile like that, crest white. Is the way to whiten. Type 2 diabetes doesnt care who you are. Man. Woman. Or where yre from. City. Country. Were just everyday people fighting high blood sugar. I am everyday people, yea, yea. Farxiga may help in that fight every day. Along with diet and exercise, farxiga helps lower blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes. One pill a day helps lower your a1c. And, although its not a weightloss or bloodpressure drug, farxiga may help you lose weight and may even lower systolic Blood Pressure when used with metformin. Do not take if allergic to farxiga or its ingredients. Symptoms of a serious allergic reaction include rash, swelling, or difficulty breathing or swallowing. If you have any of these symptoms stop taking farxiga and s