Transcripts For MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews 20160712

MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews July 12, 2016 23:00:00

Years. That was but a fraction. We are still counting them. More from the slice poll on bloomberg politics. Com. Coming up, hardball with Chris Matthews. What a day. Lets play hardball. Good evening. Im Chris Matthews in washington. We are covering a big day in politics across the country. What a day it has been. President obama joined Vice President joe biden and former president george w. Bush at the Memorial Service for the five Dallas Police officers killed by an assassin last thursday night. I would say in all seriousness it was president obamas finest hour. Lets watch a bit. I understand how americans are feeling. But dallas, im here to say we must reject such despair. Im here to insist that we are not as divided as we seem. Theres so much good in what he said today. Also today, senator Bernie Sanders endorsed Hillary Clinton for president , ending his long quest for the office. Secretary clinton has won the democratic nominating process and i congratulate her for that. She will be the democratic nominee for president and i intend to do everything i can to make certain she will be the next president of the united states. Meanwhile, expected republican president ial nominee donald trump campaigns with frontrunning vp candidate mike pence of indiana tonight. We are awaiting trumps remarks. Governor pence will also speak. We begin with the mus that Bernie Sanders, who had called for a Political Revolution is now backing Hillary Clinton. He follows others in throwing his support behind the nomineetobe. It comes after backers of sanders and clinton put together a platform that sanders called the most progressive platform in the history of the Democratic Party. The two spoke about their shared commitments today. I have come here to make it as clear as possible as to why i am endorsing Hillary Clinton and why she must become our next president. This is one of the most important elections in our lifetimes, so im asking you to stand with us and then im asking you to keep working in the weeks, months and yes, years ahead. You will always have a seat at the table when i am in the white house. So i need your help. Please join this campaign, make it your own. We accept 27 donations, too, you know. Wow. Nina turner is the former state senator of ohio and sanders supporter, of course. Ed rendell is the former governor of pennsylvania and msnbc political analyst. Hes a clinton supporter. Stephanie shrerock is the president of emilys list, also a clinton supporter. So its two to one, senator. I want to give you a chance to start. Are you holding out or are you joining sanders in endorsing clinton tonight . Well, i know people want to talk a lot benefit doorsmeabout but this is not just about endorsements. Its about endurance. We put it into words, now its on paper via the democratic platform. Now its about implementation. I certainly plan to go all the way to the Democratic Convention and beyond to make sure that what we put in that platform is actually executed. When are you going to endorse . well, this is not about my endorsement. Im asking you. Im curious. When are you going to do it . I got you, but you know, this has to be processed. Those of us who support senator Bernie Sanders, this has not been necessarily an easy day for us. We were hoping that this day never happened because we wanted to see him become the democratic nominee. So again, the endurance, what its going to take to hold the status quo accountable is what happened in that Platform Committee fight in orlando and beyond in making sure that if the president is secretary Hillary Clinton, that we uphold all those values that were written on that piece of paper. Fair enough. Thats your right to negotiate. Let me ask, do you think secretary clinton won fair and square . Well, chris, obviously she got the most votes and senator sanders was very clear about that. Fair and square. Fair and square. Chris, she got the most votes. Senator sanders was clear about that. This is really about how we take this country to the next level and to make sure we take care of the folks, the middle class folks, the working class folks in this country who deserve that type of leadership. Also, we cannot forget that senator sanders supporters, many of them who have reached out to me, many of them who have been on social media, they are hurting right now. Im not going to ignore the pain they are feeling today. Do you believe 78 , according to the latest polling, of sanders folks like yourself are supporting Hillary Clinton, 78 , about four out of five, do you believe that number . Well, i dont know what measures they use. Polls are snapshots in time. But i will tell you this. It is not just about the polls but it is how we get people out to go vote. So that is the most important thing. As democrats we will have to work very hard to do that. Polling came out today that shows that the millenials, 18 to 35 year olds, still have a strong distrust of the secretary. So we have to work. Do you . Those votes have to be earned. Last question. Do you . Do you have a distrust of her . Well, im not taking away from anything that the secretary has worked so hard for. This is not about me as the individual but it really is about the movement. I want to see this Political Movement continue because it is bigger than just whos in the white house. It is going to take teamwork to make the dream work. Well have to keep pushing to make sure that that happens. We will keep listening to you. Stay on the program. I think you will be a voice right through this process. Senator sanders did not suspend his cam ppaign today. A spokesman for his campaign told nbc he plans to go to philadelphia and have his name placed in mination. Someone will give a nominating speech for him. Governor rendell, you hear a very strong voice from senator turner which obviously represents at least a portion of the sanders voters who are holding fast to the policies he ran on and hoping to get them through even if its through hillary, they want the policies through. What do you make about almost four out of five are coming around, i think thats impressive that four out of five have come around to Hillary Clinton already. I think thats a good fast turnaround. I think senator turner hit it right on the nose. The key here is to implement the things that senator sanders and senator turner and all of their supporters worked so hard to put forward before the american people. The message has got to be clear. The only chance to make Real Progress towards the implementation of those goals is with the election of Hillary Clinton, not donald trump. You cant vote for the green party candidate. Lovely person, lovely values, but shes not going to win. You have to make sure someone wins who will implement the things that senator sanders worked so hard for. In terms of him placing his name in nomination, he has every right to do that. Secretary clinton did it in 2008 at the convention in denver and then as you recall, the roll call went down to new york and when it reached new york, secretary, then senator clinton stepped up and moved to make it unanimous and none of us alphabetically behind new york could vote. We couldnt cast our votes in pennsylvania. If senator sanders does that, vermonts near the bottom and only virginia, washington and wyoming cant cast their vote at that point. He has every right to do that and should do that. His supporters are going to like casting that vote for him. I understand completely. Its not completely shared by senator turner because shes holding out for positions all the way. Hillary clinton has always struck me as a moderate, on Foreign Policy shes too hawkish for me. On some issues like trade, shes become more antitrade than she was. Maybe theres a nuanced difference but its to the left of where she was. I think thats also clear in the platform. Somebody was holding out for free trade. Somebody was holding out for tpp. The antitpp forces did not win in the platform fight. So there is a push me, pull me thing going on in the Democratic Party between center, center left and left, right . We are hearing it tonight. Its not over. Well is it over . I think that to this primary process has really allowed for a significant discussion about where we are as a party. I think the platform over the weekend really reflects a party that is a prerogatiogressive pa just on Economic Issues but on Womens Health issues which we dont talk about nearly enough. Hillary clinton really pushed to the left on Womens Health care, repeating the hite amendment and expanding funding for planned parenthood. Talking about funding for abortion rights. Yes. Thats new. Secretary clinton made a concerted effort to reach out to sanders supporters. Lets watch that. We need an economy that works for everyone, not just those at the top, not just the millionaires and billionaires, but everybody. Both senator sanders and i believe anyone who is willing to work hard should be able to find a job that pays well enough to support a family and bernie is right, 7. 25 an hour is a starvation wage. As bernie and his supporters have argued so eloquently, we wont get anywhere unless we overhaul our Campaign Finance system. We will do everything we can to overturn citizens united. Senator sanders and i will be working to get unaccountable money out of politics and the voices of Everyday Americans back in. Earlier today, donald trump tweeted quote, Bernie Sanders who has lost most of his leverage has totally sold out to crooked Hillary Clinton. He will endorse her today. Fans angry. In a statement, his Senior Policy Adviser wrote in part the candidate who ran against special interests is endorsing the candidate who embodies special interests. Bernies endorsement becomes exhibit a in our rigged system. The Democratic Party is disenfranchising its voters to benefit the select and privileged few. Senator turner, what do you make of that . Trumps going over there trying to poke bernie voters. According to the latest poll, i did mention trumps getting about one in ten of the bernie people. Well, certainly mr. Trump is shrewd in trying to get senator sanders voters but let me be clear. Senator sanders has said from the beginning that he would do everything in his power to defeat mr. Trump. So theres no secret, no news flash there. But politically it is smart for mr. Trump to try to get some of senator sanders voters. What do you think is the idealogical difference between secretary clinton and senator sanders . You have been through this campaign from the beginning and you have been quite serious about it. There are differences. What are the differences . Well, senator sanders made it clear not just in his words but in his deeds that we need to get big money, millionaires and billionaires, special interests, out of Campaign Finance. He mirrored that. A senator from vermont actualized that through his campaign process with 27. He affirmed from the beginning that people deserve to have a living wage, 15 an hour. He didnt capitulate on that. He didnt have to be pushed that way. When you want to talk about the fight of the tpp, i was there in orlando with others and we fought very hard, senator sanders platform members fought very hard to get the Democratic Party to affirm what stopped you . That tpp is wrong. It was stopped by the Platform Committee members who support secretary clinton and those on the dnc. So again, as you clearly saw, there is still some tension there. Theres still more work to be done. I will say to the positive that we have gained lots of ground and all of the things that you heard the secretary talk about today would not have been talked about but for senator Bernie Sanders and his 13 million voters pushing the Democratic Party. I got a hardball question for you and the others. Whos your favorite candidate for vp for Hillary Clinton . Oh, god. I dont know. Thats her choice. You have been thinking about it. Come on. Give me somebody. Its her choice. I wish she would have selected my senator, senator sanders, but he want even vetted. Thats my choice. Okay. Governor, you have a candidate for vp . I would like to see tom vilsack or duval patrick. Either one would be a great president. Wow. Now, theres one that makes sense. Of course, hes working for bain right now. Thank you for dropping that sugar plum in his lap. Stephanie, do you have a candidate . We are so happy to have Hillary Clinton on the top of the ticket for the first time in history, a woman, we will stand by this ticket no matter who she chooses. Heres the thing about hillary. She will choose someone who can do the job, who she can work with. This isnt about politics for her. It is about doing the right thing for the country. Theres no better guy than tom vilsack. No better guy. Thank you, governor, for that. I think thats great. Nina turner, thank you so much, senator. Thank you, governor rendell and stephanie. We are just minutes away from donald trump taking the stage in indiana with governor mike pence who looks to be the frontrunner to be his Vice President ial running mate. He will apparently announce this friday, we are hearing now. Thats coming up tonight. Pence and trump. Plus an emotional day in dallas today. President obama paid tribute to five Police Officers gunned down last week. Its the 11th time the president had to memorialize victims of mass gun violence. This time i think hes presenting a wonderful united front alongside former president george w. Bush and texas senator ted cruz was there. Constipated . Trust number one doctor recommended dulcolax use dulcolax tablets for gentle overnight relief suppositories for relief in minutes and stool softeners for comfortable relief of hard stools. Dulcolax, designed for dependable relief im not a customer, but im calling about that credit scorecard. to dog give it. Sure its free for everyone. Oh well thats nice and checking your score wont hurt your credit. Oh to dog im so proud of you. Well thank you. Get your free credit scorecard at discover. Com. Even if youre not a customer. Were waiting for donald trump to take the stage at a rally outside indiana indianapo. He will be there with indiana governor mike pence who may end up as trumps president ial running mate. We have new key polling. According to a Monmouth University poll, Hillary Clinton has 45 , trump 41 . Look at this in iowa. Another new monmouth poll shows trump with the lead in iowa by two points with 44 , clinton 42 . Well be right back. Those of us who love dallas and call it home have had five deaths in the family. Your loss is unfair. We cannot explain it. We can stand beside you. I have been to too many of these things. Ive seen too many families go through this. But then i am reminded of what the lord tells ezekiel. I will give you a new heart, the lord says, and put a new spirit in you. I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. Thats what we must pray for, each of us. A new heart, because with an open heart, we can learn to stand in each others shoes. Welcome back to hardball. So interesting watching that group of people there. Most were Police Officers. Some with them from the beginning, some got with him later on and some didnt get with him. That was former president george bush initially and president obama speaking at the Memorial Service honoring the five Police Officers killed in dallas last week. Also their families. Five empty seats were reserved, there they are up front for the officers who gave their lives. Whose bravery was remembered today. President obama consoled the grieving families and colleagues of the officers but also expressed a disgust attentions between Law Enforcement people and minority communities and addressed reasons for the growing violence and divisions. It was so honest. Here he is. We wonder if an Africanamerican Community that feels unfairly targeted by police and Police Departments that feel unfairly maligned for doing their jobs can ever understand each others experience. As a society, we choose to underinvest in decent schools. We allow poverty to fester so that entire neighborhoods offer no prospect for gainful employment. We refuse to fund drug treatment and Mental Health programs. We flood communities with so nanny gu many guns that it is easier for to buy a computer or even a book. We tell the police youre the social worker, youre the parent, youre the teacher, youre the drug counselor. We tell them to keep those neighborhoods in check at all costs and do so without causing any political blowback or inconvenience. Dont make a mistake that might disturb our own peace of mind and then we feign surprise when periodically the tensions boil over. I watched the whole thing. Cornel belcher knows the business, and perry bacon, what did you think of that speech . I thought it was really important. I think the president was going in the first place and the president obama being there, too, great to see them both there at the same time. I really thought he tried its a har

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