Transcripts For MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews 20161101

MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews November 1, 2016

Estranged husband, anthony weiner. Eric holder and Alberto Gonzalez criticized comey, and holder wrote im deeply concerned about fbi directors emails potentially connected with political interest. That was incorrect it. Violated Longstanding Department policies and tradition, and it encountered a guidance i put in place four years ago laying out the proper way to conduct investigations during election season closed quote. Gonzalez had this to say today. I didnt understand it. I didnt understand what he was saying, what he was trying to say. I didnt understand the purpose of the letter. To me, it was very inconsistent with the protocols that presently exist at the department of justice. You typically do not comment on investigations, on ongoing investigations and that protocol was breached this past summer when director comey gave that press conference talking about the investigation. I really worry in this particular instance, the fbi director has made has made an error in judgment in terms of releasing this kind of letter which really says nothing. Also today, nbc news reported the fbi has been conducting a preliminary inquiry into Paul Manafort. Of course Donald Trumps former Campaign Manager. For his business ties overseas. Its called an inquiry, not a fullblown criminal investigation. Manafort said he never had dealings with putin government and said he was not aware of the matter. And tim kaine knocked comey over a cnbc report, that fbi director didnt want to name russia as meddling into an election, according to a former reporter. It would have been interfering in an election and might violate justice guidelines. Pete Williams Joins us. What a day, too much news but youre the guy. Does the report that came out friday evidence any indication that Hillary Clinton is guilty of anything besides what everybody else may have thought generally before . Any evidence of criminal misbehavior by her because of this report . Reporter no and it couldnt have because at the time the director wrote the letter, the fbi had not analyzed the emails on the laptop belonging to wiener because they didnt have the Legal Authority look at them in detail. Now they got that on sunday night and for the last 24 hours or so, they have been going through these emails, but we dont know what the results of that are yet. They had hoped, chris, they could perhaps Say Something in the next day or so. There was some optimism about that sunday and this morning but thats fading a little bit, but no one is for sure how long its going to take. We just dont know they have found anything new in this collection of emails, and thats the critical question. Since the process is now public, that theyre looking through the 650,000 emails to try to isolate those that would have been sent during her term as secretary of state. Right. I assume there would be a way of quickly getting down to the subset of those important documents. Since thats the doable job, its a task at hand, could we have by the end of the week a Progress Report that says so far weve found nothing troubling or nothing criminal or Something Like that, that contains the possible consequences of this report last friday . Yes, i think the answer to that is yes if tyre done. Thats the question. And thats the thats the fbis goal, is to do what i just said, to say what they can say. The Justice Department fully concurs. They sent a letter today to members of congress who had written to comey and to the attorney general on friday, and they said now theyre committed to moving as expeditiously as possible. The last big news window before the election. I know youre going to be leaning over their shoulders like a helicopter mom. Lets watch donald trump since friday talking about the news. The fib would never have reopened this case at this time unless it were a most egregious criminal offense. Hillary set up an illegal server for the obvious purpose of shielding criminal conduct from Public Disclosure and exposure. We all know about her legal mounting troubles that shes brought on to herself with her willful, and deliberate criminal misconduct. This is the biggest scandal since watergate. Hillary is the one who broke the law over, and over, and over again. We can be sure that is what is in those emails is absolutely devastating. Lets bring in kellyanne conway, thank you so much, ive known you forever. Hi, chris. Does donald trump know anything beyond from what he heard from the director of the fbi . Does he have any independent information about the criminality, if there is such criminality by the former secretary of state . No, we do not, but i was completely confounded Hillary Clinton today at a rally said why in the world would the fbi do this investigation, interfere with the election if they have no evidence and she knows thats a misstatement. I know she and her staff are very fond of the fifth amendment, but they also to refresh on the Fourth Amendment. You know you cant get a search on anything without any evidence. What is it . We dont know. The fbi knows. How would i know . Chris, you cannot get a search warrant under the Fourth Amendment, that justifies you to get a search warrant. If the clinton people really want to know, then and comey to reveal the moving affidavit or reveal the search warrant. But the investigation of Hillary Clintons possible misuse of or mishandling of information is an ongoing investigation. Isnt that investigation got authority to continue and to get the necessary warrants to compete it . Why would it have to show criminal information since the investigation has never really been called off, its continuing, why would it need evidence of criminality to continue . Thats what i dont get. Its an ongoing investigation. Why would it require evidence or proximate cause of criminality at this point to proceed . To retrieve somebodys lap to be, who failed who actually violated the law and failed to turn it over. They have the laptop, theyve been investigating with regard to the alleged sexting by the former congressman. Alleged, weve all seen the pictures. Additional warrant. I dont think that requires evidence or proximate cause of criminality because its an ongoing investigation. Do you have a response that . My points good, too you wouldnt under the Fourth Amendment be able to get these search warrants without further evidence. I read the same reports you read and the reports i read over the weekend claimed that when perhaps fbi agents started reading through these emails, closed them up and said theres something there, because theyre investigating Anthony Weiners pedophilia. To the electorate, it doesnt matter and you know it. Those undecided voters are decided about one big thing. They dont want to vote for Hillary Clinton. If they did they would take the person theyve known for decades and they said i think your experience is the right kind of experience and i represent the right kind of change. I can look past your serial lying of many decades and you know darn well theyre reluctant to vote for her. Its going to hurt her in the polls. We were 12 points last week, the state wide polls are tightening. Were going to win pennsylvania. If you do you may win the election. Let me ask you about the egregious hes not just saying some evidence to justify investigation or proximate cause, hes accusing her of egregious criminal behavior. The charges are he said its worse than watergate. It sounds like its impeachable already. What evidence does he have shes committed crimes that are impeachable . He didnt say she was impeachable . He said its worse than watergate. So, it is. Perhaps it is. We dont know that yet, but we know he does. He says it is. Hes not under investigation let alone two of them by the fbi in the same year so lets keep our eye on the ball here. Who the heck is under fbi investigation the charges are not incredible at this point. Your we having this conversation in the first place, chris . Because the fbi said its continuing an investigation, yes, go ahead. No, this is her fault. She she set up a home brewed private server she was not allowed to have. She was lying from the beginning about it. She did it to hide emails. She bleach bitted 33,000 emails to hope they would be permanently deleted. 17,000 others never got turned over. I mean come on. This woman lies about lying and now we have another investigation to see if her lying about laying perhaps is on somebody elses laptop in an unrelated investigation because her closest advisor, the woman she calls surrogate daughter for god sake is sexting pictures to a 15yearold North Carolina girl. How you can blame the two women for the behavior of the men in this case or the man . Chris, i didnt blame them. Hold on and you know it. I didnt blame them for their behavior of the husbands. Youre saying its because of donald trump. Im telling you donald trump didnt text pictures of himself, didnt set up a private server as secretary of state. He didnt break with protocol. He didnt use the state department as a conscierge. Youre doing a great job kellyanne. Let me and you about Paul Manafort. Nbc news is reporting tonight that fbi has become what they call a preliminary inquiry, not a fullscale investigation of Paul Manaforts relations. Whats your thoughts . Is that reason he left the campaign . Hows that for a question . Mr. Manafort served ties in august and i saw that same nbc news report youre speaking of and i saw Paul Manafort quoted and he said theres no investigation and he thinks its a complete distraction. Okay. Thank you. Kellyanne, youre always welcome on this show. Your candidate is especially welcome. Well talk later on the phone. You got it. Thank you, kellyanne conway. Thank you. Campaign manager for donald trump. Any way, Hillary Clinton seemed to question the motives of james comey today. Shes getting very tough on the fbi director. Lets watch. It took a lot of guts. I really disagreed with him. I was not his fan, but ill tell you what, what he did, he brought back his reputation he brought it back. Lets go to democratic supporter in mors and supporter of Hillary Clinton. You know the law and how these prosecutions work. What did you think of the announcement on friday, senate . Technically i wasnt the attorney general, i was the elected prosecutor in kansas city and an assistant prosecutor for a number of years, spent a lot of time prosecuting cases in the courtroom, and heres what i was taught as a prosecutor, the facts are your friend when youre seeking justice, and until you know the facts, keep your mouth shut. And what happened here is comey opened his mouth when he didnt know what the facts were. It is clear they have no idea what these emails are, but yet breaking every protocol and precedent, and when you have chuck grassley, republican chairman of the Judiciary Committee writing a letter saying youre not being fire secretary clinton that is verbiage out of Chuck Grassleys letter that gives you sense of the outrage. Were shooting in the dark because the fbi announced theyre look ago the reporting has said that, and the question is whether they had metadata, did they know where these emails were coming from, were they coming from the former secretary of state, to huma abedin, and found their way to Anthony Weiners laptop. If they all happened isnt that evidence they should be looking at . Shouldnt they be looking at that evidence . Its fine theyre looking at the evidence. Okay they just reporting thats what theyre doing. But he should not be telling anyone about an investigation and process 11 days from the election. They needed a warrant apparently. It doesnt matter. They didnt need a warrant and they did get a warrant because they probably could have worked out a way to get permission, although it was a little tricky because it was on weiners computer. Point is when he wrote the letter he had no facts, and hes got the resources to tell us whats in those emails. Hes got over 13,000 fbi agents and a budgets of over almost 9 billion. Okay. What do you want to do now . You cant have him stop what he did friday. Do you want him to report by the end of the week or the next 24, 48 hours . Absolutely. If theres no evidence of criminality, say so . Absolutely. All hands on deck. All hands on deck because i think when you look at the the breadth and depth of the investigation they conducted, dozens, and dozens, and dozens of fbi agents and comey tuesday wasnt close in terms thereof being any criminal conduct and all of the people who investigated the crime agreed there was no criminal conduct. That took a year and they looked at a lot more emails that are supposedly relevant on this computer. Senator i have Great Respect for you. I have for a long time. Do you think of the enemy of your party . Is it the Republican Party led by Jason Chaffetz in the house . Is it the rnc . Statute candidate trump or is it the institutional of the fbi . Its the fbi as i said on friday night, its not the peace corps. They have an attitude about who they think are bad guys. So my question is what is driving the fbi director . Why did comey do that, according to your thinking . I think he probably tried too hard to do more than what the fbi ever does. In the summer when he you know, did the press conference to somehow appease the people, because the facts dnt support criminal charge so he wanted to make them feel better and once he started going down that road he had a hard time figuring out how to stop going down that road so i think this is his error in judgment. It is his mistake, but let me be very clear about who the problem is here, the problem is a man running for president that we dont want our children to want to be a role model. Okay. Its a man running for president who brags about grabbing womens genitals and calls women dogs and has stiffed contractors, lied in lawsuits, committed fraud, and by the way, has never laid out a real plan to make things better for americans families. I have heard the critique and i sometimes share it. If hes that bad, how could he former beat the secretary of state next tuesday . How could he win . How could he possibly beat her . I dont believe he can. But Hillary Clinton has a problem and she wears the scars of decades of public service, and those scars were delivered by a republican attack machine. Okay. That has chain saws for hands, and time, after time, they have come after her and i think the American People need to take a deep breath and look and see what a fighter she is. It doesnt matter okay. If the fbi has done something outrageous or theres another accusation that is without merit, she will for americans families and shell win and be a great president next tuesday. Up next the deep red state where donald trump may have reason to worry, and later my election diary for this halloween night. Now just a week before election day. And this is hardball, the place for politics. Weve got a tight race in the deep red state of utah and for that we check the hardball scoreboard. Take a look at the new poll from the salt lake tribune, 32 for trump, and mcmullin, 30 , and clinton is at 24 . A win for mcmullin win in utah, makes 270 a bit narrower. Well be right back. Election diary monday, october 31st, 2016. Its halloween, the goblins are out and every house is getting toilet papered. Sorry, i was describing the president ial campaign in its last dying week. I just checked and offered to you the unfavorable numbers from the president ial candidates, trump, 59 , unfavorable, and Hillary Clinton, 59 , unfavorable. This is the score you get thats been composed largely of the nasty. For trump, lyin ted has given way to crooked hillary. Just keep seeing it to every voter, every day of the year. And as it has in one wars one tactic have been copied by the other. Hillary clinton is in the stretch of a stoptrump campaign and this is not to say both candidates would be equally bad that. Would be absurd. Trump has been nothing more than a personal assault on his rival. The tragedy in this eight days before the election is people have so little reason to feel good about whats happening in this, the greatest represent of democracy in Human History and thats us and happy halloween. Thats hardball. Thank you for being with us. Join us tomorrow night at 7 00 eastern see you then. Wildlife rescue workers open up a lot of dawn. Tough on grease. Yet gentle. Dawn helps open. Something even bigger. Go to facebook. Com, dawn saves wildlife. You may be muddling through allergies. Oned with. Try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. And zyrtec® is different than claritin®. Because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. Try zyrtec®. Muddle no more®. All in starts right now. Good evening from new york. Im chris hayes. Happy halloween. New revelations about the role of Political Considerations in the fbi. The fbi has been conducting a preliminary inquiry, not yet a fullblown investigation, into former Campaign Manager Paul Manaforts foreign ties. Also today, a report from cnbc sourced to a former fbi official

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