That is something that for the past five years, ive been dealing with on very obviously a firsthand basis. We see this happen time and time and time again. The bigger issue is how to stop this in general with any type of weapon. The fact is we are just over 24 hours out from this terrible tragedy and are still learning all the information. You know, but i think getting back to the bakes here and trying to figure out specifically what acts can be taken, what legislation can be proposed to stop all incidents like this regardless of the type of firearm used. Let me ask you about the firepower needed to do that. If someone comes to a school armed, maybe a couple of people come armed with ar15s with unlimited ammunition, what kind of firepower is needed to stop them at the door . Can you outmatch the kind of
firepower which is available at any gunshop in most states . Unfortunately, i know my mop couldnt. I know my mom couldnt. Representative moskowitz, youre down there. Its your responsibility to deal with the repercussions down there. What do we do with people who Go On Television with 3 million behind them like your senator who say we shouldnt talk politics because im getting 3 million from the nra. Im getting the money to fight people talking. Chris, ill tell him to come the city of parkland. Let him come and say that to the families who lost 14yearolds, if thats his position, thats fine. Hes entitled to that. But let him come, not in washington, d. C. , not in the halls of congress, come to parkland. Look these families in the face who are sitting in a room last night for six hours praying that their kid was in a hospital instead of on the floor of the
school. And let him look them in the face and say, theres nothing we can do. Its too early to talk about your kid. Weve been doing that, chris. How is that working out for the country . Im wondering about the disproportionate of concern that you hear in these hours since this tragedy and all the tradition since. Theres about one a week now, a school tragedy. Eric is right. It is partially focused just on schools, this Mass Shooting. And i will say again, bringing these semiautomatic weapons to the schools, how do you keep them out of the door. This guy had a plan, smoke bombs, turn on the alarm and start mowing it people down. Whats the plan of those Playing Defenses . What is the defensive plan . Whats the nra plan to protect our schools . There is no plan. The plan is to be helpless and continue to feed the people giving you money and turn a blind eye to tragedy. When its an illegal immigrant we need nud policy and to do something because our safety is
at risk. When it involves a cun, we need to take a step back and get all the facts. Why is there a double standard on tragedy with donald trump and republicans . The shooters choice of Military Style Weapon is an ar15. According to experts, the weapon is designed to kill multiple Enemy Combatants at once. Thats why it exists. Despite that, its easily accessible and easy to use for civilians across the country. You dont have to be a pro to use this gun. In florida, any 18yearold can walking in as long as theyre not a convicted felon. Thats just about everybody. In five of the deadliest six shootings, the gunman in the case used an ar12 semiautomatic weapon. A gunman used an a rp to injury 12 people and injury more at a Movie Theater in colorado. On december 14th, of 2012, it
was used to kill 27 people including 20 School Children in newtown, connecticut. We remember that one. The gunman also killed his mother. On june 12th of, 2016, 49 people were killed and 507b hurt when a gunman opened fire with an ar15 at the muscles nightclub in orlando. Five months ago on october 1st, a gunman used an ar15 to kill people at eight Country Music tes festival in las vegas. On november 5th, the ar was used to kill 26 church goers in Sutherland Springs texas, including eight members of one family alone and the pastors daughter. Earlier today the mother of one of the victims had this question for the president. Lets watch. President trump, you say what can you do . You can stop the guns from getting into these childrens hands put middle detectors in every
entrance to the schools . What can you do . You can do a lot. The interesting thing, ill start with kurt on this one, is that the absence of conversation is mandatory now. You must not talk about it. And two weeks from now, were not talking about this. Theyll say you can talk about it but nobody wants to talk about it. You cant talk any policy. I dont want to hear from policymakers except about policy. Thats why it exists. I dont want to hear how to contact my faith leader. I dont need trump to tell me how to find my church. I go there. I need him to lead this country in doing something about gun safety. He refuses to do anything. Theres a reason why theyre called policymakers. Thats their job to be enact Public Policy that will stop these things from happening. After the vegas shooting, there was all this stock about bump stocks being banned. Thats what takes a semiautomatic and makes it automatic. Exactly. Its been months since vegas. The worst Mass Shooting in
history. Theyre still league. There was no action or policy. There was bipartisan consensus on paper and in the news to get something done. They didnt dob anything about that. Mr. Moskowitz talk about state and federal. We have crime in different cities. Theres gang crime in tern cities and this kind of Mass Shootings and theres cultural more rains things go into it the unhappy student. We know all profiles, all the stereotypes. The bottom line is this country, we have no more Mental Illness than any other country, japan or anywhere else. Yet, we have killings on a mass basis because what we do have different than countries is lots ablots of Combat Weapons in the hands of regular people. I bet you the stores are being crashed right now because theyre afraid somebody might outlaw them. Theyre hoarding them now. Your thoughts. Well, weapons that were made for afghanistan are on the streets of america. And let me tell you something, anyone who says theyre for hunting, theyre hunting children. Its time and time again that this weapon is used. Ill tell you, chris, the shooter here had 120 more bullets in his magazines that he did not use. He had extended magazines. He dropped his weapon and stopped. This could have been a lot worse. The number could have been 30 or 40 or 50. He was armed for war in the city of parkland. The safest city in the state of florida. In the state of florida, if youre the mayor of a city and you want to institute better Background Checks under the laws youll be arrested in the state . Thats the laws we put in place here. It is so backwards. You make a good point. Not just the weapon hes got and the amount of bullets hes carrying with him. He was able for a bit to escape with the other students because he was young enough to look like
one of the High School Kids. A guy who looks like a High School Kid goes into a gunshop and buys how many magazines of bullets, a gun within semiautomatic capability. And nobody questions him. And for all i know, he looked crazy when he went into that store. Its hard to assume he went in calmly without any sweat and just said me, sir, id like to order an ar1515. It was damn easy to get that Gun Anton Fit in with the students leaving the school that day, thats why he got away before the Police Officer got him. Chris, were in tmost powerf country in the world. We have the best economy in the world and yet cant keep kids safe in school. How is it possible that someone who might be a White Nationalist who says on their Facebook Page they want to kill people and become famous, a Famous School shooter, how can they walk into
a gun store and buy an ar15 . He didnt take his parents gun. This was bought through the legal process. We have failed these kids. Democrats, republicans. We have failed. Let me bring in air car to talk about this. You have a personal horror in your life. Tell me about and heroic behavior by your mom. If you had five minutes with this president , what would you say to him on this be . I would just want to know why. I honestly dont think that i would let the shooter speak. I would tell him about my mom, about the wonderful person she was. And then give him every single piece of detail about her tragic death. And how she literally laid herself on the line to protect the students and staff at sandy hook that day. Tell him about my life since, the pain, the suffering. Watching my nieces, my niece and
nephews grow up without their grandmother. Watching my sister and i struggle without our mom. If that story cant help to change the narrative, i dont know what will. When do you think about your mom . Every second of every day. And what do you say to her . That i miss her. I miss her contagious laugh and her warm hugs. And i just hope that everything im doing and everything that i have done and will continue to do makes her proud. It should because youre here. Thank you. Erica lavorty will, kurt bordello, and kurt moskowitz. Keep representing the people and not the gun people. Coming up, a stunning report from nbc news. More than 130 ploil appointees in the Executive Office of this president have been working without permanent Security Clearances. Catch the names, Jared Kushner,
soninlaw this ivanka trump, the daughter, even the white House Counsel dont have clearance. Why not . Weve got to find out. Plus Breaking News in the russian probe. Steve bannon stonewalled the House Intelligence Committee today, not that the committees worth much. We learned he spent 20 hours over the past week talking to Robert Muellers prosecutors. And turmoil in the White House Trump says hes totally opposed to domestic abuse. Hmm. Why is a top aide allowed to remain in a job after spousal abuse allegations surfaced in his faces . Finally, some good news on this industry. This is hardball where the action is. Excuse me, are you aware of whats happening right now . Were facing 20 billion security events every day. Ddos campaigns, ransomware, malware attacks. Actually, we just handled all the priority threats. You did that . We did that. Really. We analyzed millions of articles and reports. We can identify threats 50 faster. You can do that . We can do that. Then do that. Can we do that . We can do that. Our unalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit you have happiness, those rights were spriped from College Kids In Blacksburg and Santa Barbara and from High Schoolers at
columbine. Fran first graders in newtown. First graders. Every time i think about those kids, it gets me mad. A lot of people think we dont have him anymore makes them mad. President obama fighting back tears as he recounted the litany of Mass Shootings that took place during his time as president. Today President Obama offered condolences to those affected by the latest tragedy and called for action. He tweetsed we are grieving with parkland but we are not powerless. Caring for our kids is our first job. You be till we can honestly say were doing enough to keep them safe from harm including long overdue common sense Gun Safety Laws that most americans want, then we have to change. Well be right back. Welcome back to hardball. The rob porter scandal focused new attention on the Security Clearances that have or not been granted to the executive employees of the trump white house. Nbc news is reporting that more than 130 political appointees working in the Executive Office of the president did not have permanent Security Clearances as of november, 2017. Its unclear how many of those employees may have had a chains change in their clearance since that time. It means roughly a quarter of all executive employees in the white house were working under some kind of interim Security Clearance ten months into the presidency. Among them some of the president s top advisers including ivanka trump, Jared Kushner, White House Council don mccab and Sarah Huckabee sanders doesnt have the right one as well as ten officials on the National Security council and many others. This comes after trumps director of national
intelligence washed minimal access toes information should be granted to those with temporary cure the clearances. If that is the case, the access has to be himmed in terms of the kind of information they can be in a position to receive or not receive. Theres a serious public official. Its unclear what prevented so many from obtaining permanent clearances for so long and not clear how much access theyve had to sensitive materials. Im joined by carol lee, and chris lu, director of the obama transition, also assistant to the former president in the white house. Thank you both for joining us. What are the reasons why theres such sloppiness and lack of Safety Precautions so many top people dont have the right clearances . We dont fully know because the process is not very transparent. The white house has not been forthcoming. There are a number of reasonsian someone could have a Security Clearance, interim Security Clearance months into the
administration. There could be a backlog of requests. There could be things like someone who has extensive business ties. They have to go through those. If you have Family Living overseas, that could be it. When you talk to National Security experts and legal experts about this, the thing that sticks out to them is just its not necessarily the overall number but the people who are closest to the president still dont have permanent Security Clearances. While some of the individuals that operating on Interim Clearances play have them now, people like Jared Curb Mer certainly does not. The chris lu, it seems to me my experience is when is you name a top appointee, they get through pretty quickly. These people are pretty high level people, the president s family, the press secretary, his lawyer, the white house attorney. You would think they would get priority. If they didnt get priority, it must be some red flag out there, not just the slowness of the
process. Theres some reason they havent been cleared. Thats absolutely right. How we avoided this in the Obama Administration is we precleared 200 appointees before election day to avoid the backlog. There are 250e7b8 assistants to the president. Thats the highest rank. You should push those people in the queue before anyone else comes through. The fact Jared Kushner has been sitting there for well over a year while also receiving the highest intel briefing in the country with an Interim Clearance is trouble and should make you wonder wlrp National Security is at risk right now. Do you think the president asked his family members, have you been cleared yet . What is your problem or does he know what the problem is. We dont know. Certainly now they would be having this conversation because the Rob Porter Issue has been so much in the news. And there are some suggestions that the white house is leaning
into deal with some of these Interim Clearances since porter by the let go this week. As a Candidate Trump routinely attacked Hillary Clinton for mishandling Classified Information. Lets watch minimum in actinim candidate. This was not just extreme carelessness with classified material which is still totally disqualifying. This is calculated. Deliberate, premeditated misconduct followed by a coverup. She sent vast amounts of Classified Information including information classified as top secret. Top secret. Okay . She said she never septembnt or received classified materials. A lie. Such a lie. She said she couldnt recall details about her mishandling ofClassified Information. In my administration, im going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of Classified Information. We also need the best protection of Classified Information. I dont know what to say. I mean, you can say hypocrisy and this guy talks out of two sides of his mouth. You can say hell attack hillary for any possibility of doing anything wrong without saying what was wrong that was done. Yet in this case, oh livious. Hypocrisy on so many different levels