The subject is in custody. I want to bring in trymaine lee along with frank. Start us off. Walk us through what we heard from officials there in the performance happening just a couple of minutes ago and how they were able to capture cavalcante. Reporter lets get the one big headline out of the way first. He was taken into custody without shots being fired by cavalcante or police. Thats a wonderful thing for people who were concerned that this could go badly. But the beginning of the end, really, incorporates some old School Police technology and newSchool Police technology. Shortly after 1 00 a. M. Last night, a fixed wing aircraft spotted a heat significant within the Police Investigation area. But the lightning pushed the aircraft back. Shortly after 8 00 a. M. This morning, the aircraft was able to pick up that Heat Signature once again inside a Tractor Supply spot. When police were able to kind of cordon off the area, surround that location, they were able to get into that space without cavalcante even knowing they were there. But once he noticed that they were onto him, he kind of tried to escape. They sent the dog after him which was able to apprehend him without incident. Lets listen to the Lieutenant Colonel bivens describing the five minutes it took to bring cavalcante into custody. Take a listen. Shortly after 8 00 a. M. , tactical teams converged on the area where the heat source was. They were able to move in very quietly. They had the element of surprise. Cavalcante did not realize he was surrounded until that had occurred. That did not stop him from trying to escape. He began to crawl through thick underbrush, taking his rifle with him as he went. One of the customs and Border Control teams had a dog with them. They released the dog. Some of our members were there, had him surrounded. The dog subdued him and team members from both of these teams moved in. He continued to resist but was forcefully taken into custody. No one was injured as a result of that. Reporter all together, police say there were 50 officers involved in the apprehension. A combination of state police, but also Border Patrol agents off el paso. Hes been taken to a police state facility. At some point later today or in the coming days, hell be taken to a state prison where hell begin to serve out the reminder of his Life Sentence and assured the public he will not escape this time. Frank, 50 officers involved, 400 from what im being told overall throughout this last twoweek process. Weve heard from Lieutenant Colonel bivens being transparent over the last couple weeks. Tell me what stood out to you as you listened to that Press Conference. Theres three takeaways that strike me. The stark contrast in the Law Enforcement techniques and tools that were used. We have stateoftheart Thermal Imaging. Imagine the value of that as someone is moving through the woods or a building. And we have on the other end of the spectrum, the oldfashioned k9, the dog, that isolated the fugitive and made sure he didnt go anywhere. That struck me. Secondly, the entire panoply of state, local, and county Law Enforcement that comes together like this. Theyre not asking questions like, well, im not sure if i have jurisdiction. They ask, how can i help . And the team that came from Border Patrol and you may be asking why . One, is skill sets are there from tracking and rescuing people in very rough terrain on the american mexican border. Believe it or not, pennsylvania is considered a border state in the form of lake eerie and the border of canada. So they have venue there. Lastly, the entire crowdsourcing, what i call the crowdsourcing of crime solving. The degree to which citizens played a role with their doorbell cameras by helping the police and some people not helping the police. We have this rifle that was gained through access of an open garage with a rifle stored in it. The crowd can help, and the crowd can hurt. But today its a win for everybody. And the community is safe. Yeah, you said a lot of stuff that i want to dig into. I was surprised to here that Border Patrol was present in the apprehension of cavalcante. Would you suppose they were using Thermal Imaging or this was something new they added to his capture . Its interesting because i have not if i got this right i think this was the first time i heard the use of Thermal Imaging. Its possible that it was brought in more recently. I dont know. I know that the technology has greatly improved over the years. Back in the day, we couldnt tell whether we were looking at a deer or a opossum, but today it is precise youre looking at a human being. Its gotten smaller and more affordable. But its typical now to be used in a wooded area. Its even typical in urban environments. When the s. W. A. T. Team needs to clear a building, they deploy these. I wonder if they have added it recently because he had been running for two weeks and was armed. Do you know if they just added the thermal images to their search . Thats a great question. You would wonder why wouldnt they have used it earlier. From my knowledge one of those questions that i guess we have to wait in the coming days to get answers for. Exactly. Well get more answers in the coming days. I want to bring in jim kavanaugh. Im sure you were taking a listen to the Press Conference as well and the apprehension of danelo cavalcante. Before we dig into the details of it all, give me kind of your first reactions when you were hearing it. I thought it was great news. Great news for pennsylvania. Great news no officers were hurt. Frank said he was carrying a gun and he had a scope on that rifle. Its progressed. But weve used that a lot on cases and i would say they had that technology there early. But what happens is, the canopy a man can get in that canopy its so thick. They can get glimpses of the Heat Signatures sometimes, but the canopy can be so thick. Remember, the plane cant go up and look over a 30mile circumference of woods. Its not effective in the daytime because theres a lot of people moving around anyway. You can get a Heat Signature of people moving around in the daytime, but who are they . Theyre people on their farm and property and normal activities. Its most valuable at night when most of the residents are not, you know, Walking Around the fields or the roads. Theyre at home late in the night and then you pick up a Heat Signature. And the reason it became so effective here was because of the alarm. Because that plane could have been flying a Giant Circumference looking for someone, but when that alarm came in, they can narrow that area to right around the Tractor Supply and being flying a large circle. They fly so high, you cant hear that fixed wing. You dont hear it or notice it because they can they can drop down closer, but they can also get up pretty high. Once they got a lock on that Heat Signature, they called the tactical teams in, the Pennsylvania State police s. W. A. T. And they backed the aircraft out for the thunderstorm and came back in early in the morning and picked the signature back up and pin pointed the teams right on him. Like the Lieutenant Colonel said, it was five minutes, the dog is released and hes captured. I would say they had the assets, but what they didnt have was that piece of intelligence that they got from the alarm and that sent them right through the spot is that why, jim, you suspect cavalcante was unaware that he was being surveilled at that moment and was about to be apprehended . Because he didnt necessarily see the aircraft above tracking him . Right. Probably not. He probably didnt know it was up there. You know, helicopters make more noise and theyre great police tools for a lot of things. But the fixed wings are great on surveillance. And we used them extensively on surveillance and they can loiter up there very high. They have one engine. Daytime, you dont know theyre there. Maybe in the dead of night, you can notice it. Depends on how high they are. And ambient noise in the area. He might not even picked up on that airport airplane until the last few minutes. He tried to lay low. If he tried to shoot it out, he wasnt going to win that Gun Battle With Two tactical teams who all have police rifles. He wasnt going to win that gun battle with his. 22 rifle and he knew that. Both you and jim just mentioned it, right, that he was now armed with this. 22caliber rifle that he was able to obtain in a home that he had broken into. Considering that, Law Enforcement knew he was armed. How much more urgent did his apprehension become . You know, interestingly, as the Lieutenant Colonel said in the Press Conference, the guy was treated as a and d, armed and dangerous, from day one. Hes pinned to two murders. I dont think it actually changed the gravity of the search, but it absolutely ratcheted up the sense in the community that we need to help too, we need to be extra vigilant and take seriously the all admonitions from Law Enforcement to lock up, shelter in place. I think Law Enforcement treated this properly at all times and urgent and grave. I think it did change a strategy for confrontation. I heard the Lieutenant Colonel say that he had kind of changed the deadly force policy approach to this man. And i you know, jim and i kind of im guessing jim cringes when we hear the change deadly force policy. That gets very, very fraught with peril. But thats the change i saw happening was, hey, they they are going theyre to treat this guy as a deadly threat immediately. That was interesting to me. And then the last thought i have here, look, i heard a lot of people inpatient with how long this took. It took two weeks. Whats going on . I think thats our culture. We watch a lot of movies and tv series where the manhunt is wrapped up in an hour or two hours and we get impatient when in real life it doesnt work that way. But this is how it it looks in real life. I know youve got to go, but as we think about this community, right, chester county, they have been on high alert for the last two weeks or so. Lock your doors, dont keep your keys in your car, lock your cars as well. Stay inside. Keep on the lookout. Watch for your ring cameras. So on and so forth. Contact us if you hear anything. How is the Community Reacting today now that hes back in custody . Reporter yasmin, its hard not to find poetry in the fact that the last 48 hours the heat had been ratcheted up with news that cavalcante had actually got a weapon. The community was dealing with excessive heat and torrential downpours. Law enforcement was dealing with all of these issues. This morning, the Weather Breaks and it cools down. And now the emotions for this moment can cool down. Think about his exgirlfriend, her family skill lives in the community. School kids, not able to go to school. For this man to be captured today, saw a school bus drive by, a sign of normalcy. The folks are driving by and honking their horns and pumping their fists. We talk about the nightmare being over, this community is finally able to settle down after 14 harrowing, dramatic days. Its one thing to watch from afar and follow all the nuances and details of this case. Its another thing for the folks who actually live in this community to experience this. For this community, this day, two long weeks, they finally get to breathe. Thank you. I appreciate it. Frank, this guy is going back to prison for life for murdering his girlfriend. He was able to shimmy up a wall in the exercise yard, make it over the roof to escape that prison. If you are in charge of that prison, youre the warden, youre thinking about how to increase security is there. And we know officials confirming this morning that the prison that he escaped from is going to undergo major security. We heard they made some immediate changes to bolster security and they added theyre going to improve communication of residents who live close to the prison. But how worried should folks be that he was seemingly able to escape so easily as we watch this video. Just astounding. Yeah, too easily. And this will be, by the way, a focus when they sit Cavalcante Down and attempt to interview him. I say attempt. Hes going to be read his Miranda Rights and he may choose not to talk. Theyre going to want to focus on, how did this happen . Did you have a lookout . Did you plan it . Was it opportunistic . How long had you been thinking about this . What other things did you think about in terms of vulnerabilities in this constructional facility . Theres been reports that a personnel action has been taken against one of the Constructions Facility Employees regarding this event. Bringing in a third party, a consulting firm, helps a lot. Because they come in with a fresh set of eyes. They test it, they do all kinds of things to make sure the place is as tight as it can be. If it seems to the public that theres more escapes were talking about these days, its because there are more escapes these days. And that gets into a much larger area. Why is that . Third party corrections facilities. Staff cuts. When youre an escape risk and youre sent back to a Corrections Facility like he is being sent right now, what happens to you once you reach that facility . Youre going to maximum lockup. Youre going to the most secure part of the Pennsylvania StateCorrectional Facilities. They have a maximum lockup, each state does, the federal government does. When you get into those, youre not breaking out of those. Too many doors, too many guards, too many locks, theres no way out. When youre in general population, like he was in this county facility, he gets to go to the yard. You can see the weakness in that yard as soon as you look at the picture. Inmates can go in a cubby hole that the tower is not looking at. They shouldnt have any of that. We have the greatest architects, america does, we can design these facilities, and legislators and taxpayers have to look at it, this is a case, you can pay me now or you can pay me later. You can build the facility so its more secure and you dont have to spend millions and millions of dollars in Police Overtime and fuel for all of these vehicles and helicopters and airplanes, to try to catch one guy. So you got to keep him in there. I was dismayed to hear that somebody said theyre going to rebuild these facilities with roofs over the exercise yards for the inmates. I think thats a mistake. I mean, were not a nation that should be you should be incarcerated for your crimes. Thats the punishment. But we dont have to put you in a place where you can never go out in a yard and see this weather and see the sun and get some fresh air. Thats just too draconian for me. Design the yard so its secure but it is outside. I think americans have loved ones who are incarcerated and they dont want to see them mistreated. We want to see them kept in there safely. Everybody wants them in there safely. Design it right, spend the money up front and we went have to deal with this in the end. You brought this up, part of the process here with cavalcantes intake is going to be interviewing him about how it was he was actually able to escape and his time on the road as well over the last two weeks. What would you be targeting, focusing in on and also why would he be transparent about that . What does he really have to lose at this point . You know, quite honestly, this is about a hungry, very hungry, very thirsty, very tired individual who just wants to meet the basic human needs right now, and i would use that in the interview process. My training is to try to not upset this guy, that i need to learn from. I need to find out what happened in that Corrections Facility. I need to find out how he got food, water or not and why he chose this person to approach and this home or not and who is out there outstanding that may have been in the plan, perhaps, to help him. I need to win this guy over. I know that sounds odd with a murderer who has escaped and youre upset with him. I give him food and water. I become his temporary friend and i would say i need to learn from you. And the first thing i have to focus on is the Corrections Facility. Where do we have problems. How did this happen . And get him thinking im his source of food and water and he needs to teach me something, play up to that. Ill explain to them, youre going in the hole. Youre going into segregation in a state facility. This is your chance to help. And i have to read him his myrrh Miranda Rights. He may say, i got food and water and this is the last chance i have for real human discussion. So well see where this goes. Theres a complication with portuguese translation that has to happen. Im sure the State Of Pennsylvania has Law Enforcement officers who speak portuguese. I prefer it not to go through the translator and have the translator directly interview him if the translator is skilled enough to do that. Well see how long hes in this facility. If we see him in there for hours today, hes talking. If we see him transported back out after processing, hes not talking. If you will,