Personally, id rather deal with the other problems having put that lid on their Nuclear Program than still to be facing that. And donald never tells you what he would do. Would he have started a war . Would he have bombed iran . If hes going to criticize a deal that has been very successful in giving us access to iranian facilities that we never had before, then he should tell us what his alternative would be. But its like his plan to defeat isis. He says its a secret plan, but the only secret is that he has no plan. So we need to be more precise in how we talk about these issues. People around the world follow our president ial campaigns so closely, trying to get hints about what we will do. Can they rely on us . Are we going to lead the world with strength in accordance with our values . Thats what i intend to do. I intend to be a leader of our country that people can count on both here at home and around the world to make decisions that will further peace and prosperity but also stand up to bullies, whether theyre abroad or at home. We cannot let those who would try to destabilize the world, to interfere with american interests and security to be given any opportunities at all. Two minutes is expired. One thing id like to say. Very quickly. But i will tell you, hillary will tell you to go to her website and read all about how to defeat isis. Which she could have defeated by never having it get going in the first place. Right now its getting tougher and tougher to defeat them, because theyre in more and more places, more and more states, more and more nations, and its a big problem. And as far as japan is concerned, i want to help all of our allies. But we are losing billions and billions of dollars. We cannot be the policeman of the world. We cannot protect countries all over the world. We have just a where theyre not paying us what we need. We have just a few final questions. She didnt say that, because she has no business ability. We need heart, we need a lot of things, but you have to have some basic ability. And sadly, she doesnt have that. All of the things that shes talking about could have been taken care of during the last ten years, lets say, while she had great power, but they werent taken care of. And if she ever wins this race, they wont be taken care of. This year, secretary clinton became the first woman nominated from a major party. Earlier this month, you said she doesnt have, quote, a president ial look. Shes standing here right now. What did you mean by that . She doesnt have the look. She doesnt have the stamina. I said, she doesnt have the stamina. And i dont believe she does have the stamina. To be president of this country, you need tremendous stamina. The quote was i just dont think she has a president ial look. Did you ask me a question . You have to be able to negotiate our trade deals. You have to be able to negotiate. Thats right. With japan, with saudi arabia. I mean, can you imagine, were defending saudi arabia, and with all of the money they have, were defending them and theyre not paying . All you have to do is speak to them. You have so many Different Things you have to be able to do and i dont believe that hillary has the stamina. Lets let her respond. Well, as soon as he travels to 112 countries and negotiates a piece deeace deal, a ceasefir release of dissidents, an opening of new opportunities in nations around the world, or even spends 11 hours testifying in front of a congressional committee, he can talk to me about stamina. The world [cheers and applause] let me tell you. Let me tell you. Hillary has experience, but its bad experience. We have made so many bad deals during the last [cheers and applause] so she has experience i agree. But its bad experience, whether its the iran deal youre so in love with where we gave them 150 billion back. Whether its the iran deal, whether its anything you can you almost cant name a good deal. I agree, shes got experience, but its bad experience. And this country cant afford to have another four years of that kind of experience. [ cheers and applause ] we are at the final question. One thing, lester. He tried to switch from looks to stamina. But this is a man who has called women pigs, slobs, and dogs. And someone who has said pregnancy is an inconvenience to employers, who has said i never said that. Women dont deserve equal pay unless they do as good a job as men. And one of the worst things he said was about a woman in a beauty contest. He loves beauty contests, supporting them and hanging around them. And he called this woman, miss piggy. Then he called her miss housekeeping because she was lati latina. Donald, she has a name. Where did you find this . She has become a u. S. Citizen, and you can bet, shes going to vote this november. Okay, good. Let me just tell you ten seconds and then the final question. Hillary is hitting me with tremendous commercials. Some of its in entertainment. Some of its somebody whos been very vicious to me, rosie odonnell, i said very tough things to her and i think everybody would agree that she deserves it, and nobody feels sorry for her. But you want to know the truth, i was going to say very quickly. Something extremely rough to hillary, to her family, and i said to myself, i cant do it. I just cant do it. Its inappropriate. Its not nice. But shes spent hundreds of millions of dollars on negative ads on me, many of which are absolutely untrue, theyre untrue and theyre misrepresentations, and i will tell you this, lester, its not nice, and i dont deserve that. But its certainly not a nice thing that shes done. Its hundreds of millions of ads, and the only gratifying thing, i saw the polls come in today and all of that money, over 200 million spent and im either winning or tied and ive spent practically nothing. One of you will not win this election, are you willing to accept the outcome as the will of the voters . Secretary clinton . I support our democracy. And sometimes you win. Sometimes you lose. But i certainly will support the outcome of this election. And i know donalds trying very hard to plant doubts about it. But i hope the people out there understand, this election is really up to you. Its not about us, so much as it it is about you and your families and the kind of country and future you want. So i sure hope you will get out and vote as though your future depended on t because on it, because i think it does. Mr. Trump, will you accept the will of the voters . I want to make America Great again. Were losing our jobs, people are pouring into our country. The other day we were deporting 800 people. Perhaps they passed the wrong button they pressed the wrong button, or perhaps worse than that, it was corruption. But these people that we were going to deport for good reason, ended up becoming citizens. Ended up becoming citizens. And it was 800 and now it turns out it might be 1,800, and they dont even know. Will you accept heres the thing. Im going to make America Great again. I will be able to do it. If she wins, i will absolutely support her. That is going to do it for us. That concludes our debate for this evening, a spirited one. We covered a lot of ground. Not everything as i suspected we would. The next president ial debates are scheduled for october 9th at Washington University in st. Louis and october 19th at the university of las vegas. University of nevada las vegas. The conversation will continue. A Vice President ial debate is for october 4th at Longwood University in virginia. My thanks to donald trump and Hillary Clinton and Hofstra University for hosting us tonight, good night, everyone. Well, we havent seen anything quite like that either. And youd be forgiven for thinking you had just witnessed two separate conversations occurring side by side. That was, that was not well, let me just say this. There were very specific things about that, that were not as they were expected to go. For one, the audience was a little bit out of control. One of the things that we talked about in the leadup to this, was the repeated admonitions to the audience that they should not be a factor, that they should remain silent. The first time we saw that broken tonight was in response to donald trump saying, he would release his tax returns if Hillary Clinton released emails from her time as secretary of state. And there was a loud shouting, clapping outburst from apparently a protrump corner of the room but that was not the first. There were a number of moments of not just uncontrollable response, gasping and laughter but applause and shouting from the room. Thats very, very unusual for a president ial debate. There was a lot that was unusual. But the ambiance of the room. The structure because of it Eugene Robinson from the Washington Post often gets to write the first draft of history. How will this first draft be written . Im scrambling, i have to write it tonight. It was, as you said, two separate conversations on two different planes. Occasionally they met. When donald trump said i think my strongest asset maybe by far is my temperament, they connected there in a funny way, as she just laughed and said woo, okay. And then went on. But, you know, i think, i think partisans of Hillary Clinton have much reason to be happy tonight. I thought she presented a, she presented her case for being president. There wasnt a whole lot about her emails. It didnt sort of get sidetracked on any issue, really. She got to state her case. And her case is that i am, im steady. Im dependable. I will work hard. I will, i have plans. This is who i am. Donald trump partisans heard his applause lines, heard him once again promise to make America Great again. Heard him talk about trade, heard him talk about bringing the factories back. They didnt hear specifics, because he doesnt give specifics. He didnt say how hes going to do it. But they may have heard what they wanted to hear as well. I think the elephant in the room here is trumps nonverbal behavior and his verbal interruptions. There were many dozens of times in which he interjected and interrupted clinton, and he settled into a pattern where it was almost like he was heckling his own debate, where he would pop up in the middle of her answer and say wrong or no, literally as if he were a heckler at the event rather than a participant. I dont think she interrupted him but for a handful of times, and he did so literally dozens of times, almost in a way in that felt like he could not control himself. Chris matthews, an inperson witness. I thought it was a shutout for hillary. Kellyanne conway said it was gonna be that her candidate trump was a home run debater, the babe ruth of debaters. I counted home runs tonight, 50. Hillary hit them on everything, his tax returns, failure too release them, hit him on stiffing his suppliers, the birther issue. Lester asked tough questions about racial issues and policing. He couldnt answer them. She gave a great answer. And her fifth home run was her brilliant close. She cleaned his clock tonight. It was a bit embarrassing for trump. I thought of it by watch a few good men. Shy was tom cruise and he was jack nicholson. It was over tonight, very clear result, hillary won big time. It was a shutout. Steve schmid. A veteran of republican campaigns, i cant wait to get your verdict. Look, i think the debate started out pretty good for donald trump, when he was talking about trade issues, he put Hillary Clinton in the position of having to defend nafta and trade deals that are very unpopular in ohio, pennsylvania, in north carolina, defending an economic status quo. But weve talked about Hillary Clintons fitness, her health. Donald trump saying she doesnt have the stamina, but Hillary Clinton looked terrific tonight. She looked strong, she looked capable. And donald trump looked like a runner out of gas as we hit the 45, 50minute mark in this debate. As we got into the National Security issues, there was a combination of his interrupting, a combination of his body language, the sighing, that showed an exhaustion that then turned into absolute and complete incoherence over the back half of the debate. Theres a saying used in the military, the seven ps, and it stands for prior proper planning pry prevents peak poor performance. And we talked about his lack of preparation coming into the debate. And his campaign talked about that lack of preparation as a rtue. But you saw somebody on the stage tonight talking about critical National Security issues that was somewhere between incoherence and babble. And never has there been a president ial candidate on the stage talking about National Security issues in a president ial debate thats just fundamentally unprepared and incoherent as you saw on the back half of this debate. So this was a huge night for Hillary Clinton, certainly in a divided country, there will be elements of this debate that republicans will say that donald trump did well. He scored some points on her. I dont think it was a complete shutout. But i think in the middle of the electorate thats undecided, particularly with suburban women voters, as we look at a race where the real clear average has her up about t2. 3 points, that the momentum that donald trump has had where it has closed from ten points to where it is today. I suspect its going to start moving in the other direction as we get to the back half of this week. Part of what has made your opinions and intellect so interesting this Campaign Season is your resume, populated as it is with surnames like bush and mccain and your background and knowing something about your politics. Having said what you just said, do you think this will come down in those two bifurcated prisms . This will be viewed among communities who already believe a certain way, or do you think what you just expressed will be kind of the, if people admit it, mainstream view tomorrow morning of what we just witnessed tonight . I dont think that theres any way intellectually for you to say that that was a performance of somebody who was cogent, clear, decisive, had a plan, offered a vision for the future of the country on a range of National Security issues. I do think it will have an impact not necessarily on the decided voters, but it will have an impact on undecided voters. And as we look at some of those states, use colorado as an example, you have unusually high thirdparty numbers for gary johnson in particular. And i think that we should not lose sight of the fact that these are the two most unpopular candidates in the history of polling running against each other. So you have significant numbers who dont like either choice who are parked in the gary johnson lane right now. But as we move through this debate, the one thing we can all agree on, gary johnson will not be the president the united states. And will those voters, seeing a performance that went so off the rails on the preparedness on these National Security issues, they park there as a protest vote, or will they move over into the Clinton Campaign column . And i suspect thats where youre going to begin to see happening. Because a lot of the gary johnson voters are Republican Voters who just are not comfortable with trump, and theres nothing that he did tonight thats going to pull those voters into his column. Steve schmidt, thank you for your candor and analysis tonight. And the gary johnson vote is a small thing, but it is an important thing. And i think that point of analysis on National Security incoherence is important from steve. Because if there are voters out there disturbed by what they saw abo from trump, and theretoday aboug about japan and now making any sense and the nuclear, which made it sound like he didnt understand the policies he was talking about, those voters are not going to be comfortable with gary what is aleppo johnson either. Given on how blithely incoherent hes been on even basic stuff. Nicole, your resume much like steves. You know, i think that we held Hillary Clinton to very high standards, and she exceeded them. I mean, it was a performance that was, to me, everything that think had to have hoped it would be, especially coming off what they thought was a rough run at the commander in chief forum. But i think would be incorrect to think that Donald Trumps numbers are going to collapse tomorrow. Hes had other calamitous debate performances and structurally theyve changed very little. I think it would be incorrect to think well see a collapse in his numbers. He did not win the nomination because he knew anything about Foreign Policy or really any other policy matter. He is almost a protest vote in and of himself. And i thought his two best points of the night were pointing out that shes been in government for 30 years. Theres still 55 of the electorate thats looking for changes here. And the most recent polls out last weekend, his maybe only other good argument was an economic one, which if you talk to the clinton folks, is their greatest worry, that on economic questions, he does represent more opportunity for change. So, i agree with everything you said about National Security and everything i heard steve say, but i think structurally, this thing is so locked and so tense that im just not sure were going to see some dramatic swing. I think she helped herself, im not sure how badly he hurt himself. What do you make of him i mean, we saw the split screen the whole night. I thought it was bizarre, when you said there were two different conversations going on, part of that was physically. She held still, watchedhim, or took notes, very occasionally responded visually to what he did. He was like a jumping bean. I have a 4yearold. He never stopped moving. The oneword interruptions. The leaning into the microphone, the drinking water, the sniffing, the grimacing, the sighing, that, to me, we talked about the whole basic question being his plausibility as a president , thats a person that you would ask if they were on their medication if you saw them on a plane and they started misbehaving to the flight attendant. I mean, that behavior for 90 minutes was, i thought liste