Transcripts For MSNBCW Lockup Fairfax Extended Stay 20191208

MSNBCW Lockup Fairfax Extended Stay December 8, 2019

And they call me giraffe. Call me pterodactyl. They call me all types of [ bleep ]. A bullied inmate is pushed to the breaking point. The way you acted, were not going to have that here in our facility. Why all this stuff just coming at me . In recent years, the communities surrounding washington, d. C. , like those in Fairfax County, virginia, have become some of the wealthiest and fastestgrowing in the nation. Due in part to low crime rates. We do not have the same amount of serious crime as maybe the district of columbia. So we can concentrate more on all the Little Things. If you take care of the Little Things in Fairfax County, you dont have the big things. And behind the walls of the Fairfax County Adult Detention Center, deputies say they practice the same philosophy in managing the inmates. While some of the 1,200 men and women here are convicted, most are currently charged with crimes and are awaiting trial of the resolution of their cases. Nd but staff say no infraction is too minor. We have tough rules. We enforce those rules. And its considered tough jail in the end. Even a discarded tissue in the female housing unit brings a reprimand. Tissue over here, who was at this phone here . Yall dont want to be locked out. As somebody got to move that paper towel over there. Ill get it. Things are just as strict t when it comes to the tidiness of individual cells. No wrinkles. I try my best. Make sure when i come by your door your back is off the doors, both of your arms by your side. We hold whats called cell inspection. Inmate has to go throughout the cell and clean his cell and it has to be done in a straight way to where the post deputies go through those cells and make de sure that all the necessary h stuff is in there. Neat, clean, and in orderly fashion. Unlike full contraband shakedowns where every inch of the cell is inspected, these daily checks are simply for cleanliness. Da and today thats good news for jasmine slaughter. I just got some toothpaste in here. Th hope she dont find it. Why is it contraband . Anything thats not in its original container is contraband. Why isnt it in its original container . Because i dont have regular toothpaste, i have the toothpaste the jail gives you and that toothpaste is horrible. All right, go ahead and lock it. Slaughter says shes in jail for hanging around the wrong crowd at a local walmart. L i went into the store with some of my friends and they were stealing tvs and computers and e all types of electronics, and i was in the bathroom. So when i came out, i was questioned, detained, then i wa arrested and charged with grand larceny, which i dont understand why, because i wasnt stealing anything. Slaughter pled not guilty but admits to a history of stealing. I would get away with it. Stealing clothes. Constantly get away with stealing. For so long ive always looked for, you know, acceptance from people. Like, i wanted friends. And, you know. When you want friends, you try to you do things to impress people. U my mom always told me, somebody wants you to constantly do something for you, theyre not your friend. And me being a stubborn teenager, being stubborn, i didnt listen. I got away with a couple of times, then it started catching up to me. Slaughter has a separate charge of perjury in a neighboring county. Shes pled not guilty there as well. But will remain housed at Fairfax County until her grand larceny charge is resolved. She says her unusual appearance has led to cruelty. Oh, whats that on your skin, is it contagious . Everyone asks me that. No, its just eczema. Its not even that bad. Thats all i hear all the time. Slaughter did not want to discuss why she has no eyebrows or lashes. Htan but its led to unwanted nicknames. They call me giraffe, call me pterodactyl, they call me all types of [ bleep ]. I know on the outside i dont look like this. I do makeup, i do hair, i do lashes, i do everything. So i dont look the same. You know she aint got no eyebrows, no eyelashes. Im not trying to be funny or put her down or anything but this is a jail. People in jail talk. They call her avatar. They call her alien. I mean, its just cruel. Ey avatar. Thats her new nickname. People are actually calling her that on the block now. I cry a lot. Because i never heard, i never understood im always misunderstood. Im always singled out. Im always the outcast. Su and it hurts. Shes like scaly a little bit. And shes tall and slinky, you know . Ginger lucas is serving nine months after pleading guilty to selling crack cocaine to an mo undercover officer. To shes been here several times before for convictions including theft, forgery, embezzlement, and prostitution. Crack cocaine, i used to be addicted to it. And i was just doing anything and everything to get the moneyn to supply my habit. O you know how they say if you smoke crack you lose a lot of weight . Bull [ bleep ]. I was eating and smoking at the same time. After i go on like my binge and stuff i would just like go on another binge and just start eating. D so pretty much i had two two addictions. Lucas says shes the largest woman in the jail and at her heaviest she weighed nearly double her current 320 pounds. Probably about 580, close to 600. If i laid on my back, like hip and ass would hang off the bed. Im sorry, i got a lot of ass. But lucas says shes used her weight to make a lot of money. I do strip sometimes. Big girl strip club. All over maryland and d. C. Full nudity, where you wear like a gstring. Y its like it could be like black or clear. Your get those specially made. Though lucas is imposing, shes popular on her housing unit. I been knowing ginger awhile. She a good girl. I was really intimidated by ginger at first because of her stature and the look on her face. But shes actually very sweet and like cuddly. Deputy. She wasnt this size when i first met her. What size, that didnt mean nothing to me. I didnt care about that. James davis has been in a relationship with lucas for the past nine years and is a father to one of her six children. They were both arrested for dealing crack cocaine to an undercover officer. Al davis also pled guilty but was sentenced to five years. Compared to lucas nine months. He will soon leave her behind when he transfers to prison. In shes just a cool person to be around. I mean, she was always herself. She never wanted to be nobody else. I mean, the first day i met her, its the same person she was i then, the same person she is now. Hes actually would have been the only person thats stand by me through rough periods. He doesnt make me feel like i was wanted, like i was special. With her boyfriend headed to prison and her children missing her and living with various family members, lucas says shes finally ready for change. I dont want to go back doing what i was doing before to get me in all this trouble. Et i already lost james right now. I havent seen him in almost a year, i probably wont see him another three, four years. It kind of hurts. Its on me to make a change. Not only for me but for my kids. Coming up it was really, really disappointing. Re new troubles for jasmine slaughter. And thats where he hit you . Just happened so fast. Who threw the first punch . He hit me first. There are no get out of jail free cards following a monopoly brawl. When you have pain. You want relief. Fast. Only thermacare ultra pain relieving cream has 4 active ingredients to fight pain 4 different ways. Get powerful relief today, with thermacare. And now for their service to the community, we present limu emu doug with this key to the city. 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Up to 20 men at a time must coexist in the small day room or common area between cells. I hate this place, man. Its just a nightmare. The cramped quarters can cause tempers to flare. Where you going . Whats happening . Fight. Deputies have just broken up a fight between Josh Franklin and darrick elmore. It occurred somewhere between park place and marvin gardens. Couldnt beat me in monopoly, thats it. Got jacked. Got jacked up. Whats going on . We were playing monopoly, basically. He just made a big scene out of it. Talking about im not doing it correctly. Basically tried to put me down like i was doing it badly. Know what im saying . It was in a very disrespectful manner. So he hit you . Just happened so fast. Did you fight back . Not really. So then who threw the first punch . He hit me first. He hit you where . Hit me on this side of my face here. Right here, by your eye . Yes, sir. I ran up to defend myself, and i dual punched him. Inmate elmore didnt want to tell the story, inmate franklin did, therefore we took the time to speak with other inmates in the block to determine what actually occurred. So then the lightskinned guy hit the black guy first or the darker guy hit the lightskinned guy first . It took a few minutes for anybody to hit each other. They were pushing each other back and forth, you know, like kids do. Then it just it just erupted. Go ahead. Kind of looked like a sucker punch but i couldnt tell who started what. They werent trying to hurt each other, it was more i dont know, whats the right word to say, pussyfooting around . Thats an option. Well, thats what they were doing. Another inmate says he knows exactly who started the fight. If you can have a seat on the bench out in the hallway. Aldon alexander is Josh Franklins cell mate. Elmore got up in his face, you know. And pushed him. Elmore pushed him. Okay. Elmore pushing . Yeah. Both men will soon have hearings to determine how much time, if any, they will get in disciplinary segregation. As harsh a housing situation as any weve ever seen. From my personal perspective i feel i should be found not guilty. But only god knows right now, you know . I mean, this is jail. People lie. Its one thing, its filled with liars and its filled with thieves. I dont believe almost in anything anybody tells me in here. Who really started the fight . He started the fight. He started the entire thing. But elmore has a reputation for fighting. Hes serving a oneyear sentence for assault on a police officer. When you resist arrest they try to make it like youre out looking for Police Officers to beat up or something and thats not what it is. I dont put my hands on someone unless they put their hands on me. Elmore says thats exactly what franklin did during their Monopoly Game. But franklin says he would never hurt anyone. Im the most kindest guy on the block. If not the most encouraging. Im a very religious guy. I stand on the bible. Reading scriptures of encouragement to encourage myself in this time of affliction. Cling to what is good. Be kindly, affectionate to one another. Franklin does bible study, you know, every day. He basically walks around in his cell preaching to himself. You got a lot of guys, they call it jailhouse religion. You do your dirt on the outside, but you get to jail, all of a sudden youre a holy roller. I dont hide behind anything. What i do is i just basically keep my head on straight by not thinking about what im here for, you know. What franklin is here for is the stuff of nightmares. He has pled guilty and is awaiting sentencing on four convictions. Rape by force, sodomy of a helpless victim by force, robbery, and illegal use of a firearm. According to prosecutors, franklin contacted two women on a website known for Escort Service ads. He met them at a hotel where he drew a gun and forced each woman to have sex with him. Then Authorities Say he made them have sex with each other. After franklin left the hotel, the women called 911 and he was soon apprehended. Despite his guilty plea, franklin has a different way of looking at it. People have different perspectives. They see it different ways. The situation is like a youth mistake that everyone, you know, seems to have in their youth. And nine times out of ten, most of them learn from it, you know. But this might not be franklins only mistake. During his stay here, new rape charges were filed against him in nearby arlington county. After franklin is sentenced for his crimes in Fairfax County, hell be prosecuted in arlington as well. Though he says he is innocent, he might decide to enter a guilty plea. If youre innocent, why not fight it . Because, like, i have i have fear in my heart in regards to, like, what will happen if i do. I dont want the worst punishment. I always keep in mind the worst punishment and what can happen, you know, if things go wrong. So i try to keep it in my, you know coming up im the one person that motivated everybody on the block as far as, you know, reading the bible and doing everything thats right. Josh franklin and darrick elmore plead their cases to avoid disciplinary segregation for fighting. This guy frank is hes crazy, man. Now i got to be disciplined because of this guy . I just dont i dont think its fair. Mornings were made for Better Things than Rheumatoid Arthritis or Psoriatic Arthritis. When considering another treatment, ask about xeljanz xr, a oncedaily pill for adults with moderate to severe Rheumatoid Arthritis or active Psoriatic Arthritis for whom methotrexate did not work well enough. It can reduce pain, swelling, and significantly improve physical function. Xeljanz can lower your ability to fight infections like tb; dont start xeljanz if you have an infection. 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Bumpadum, bumbumbumbum at the Fairfax County Adult Detention Center, ginger lucas is whats known in jail slang as a frequent flyer. Over the past decade, shes had multiple arrests for crimes including theft and prostitution. And shes well known to staff but for the wrong reasons. She was a management issue. Loved to fight. Loved to fuss. Didnt i mean, she disregarded authority. She didnt care. A few years earlier when lucas was even bigger than she is now, private first class clayborne had to take her to the ground to break up a fight. Yeah, she took me yeah, that little thing is strong. From training it doesnt matter how big they are. You have to take them down when you can. Sometimes when youre by yourself. Shes changed a lot. A heck of a lot. It hasnt just been a change in behavior. At her heaviest, lucas says she weighed nearly 600 pounds. Shes dropped almost half of that and wants to lose more. People make fun of you sometimes. Cant do a lot of things i want to do. What is it, six flags . You know they got the new superman and all them rides out and all that. Well, i couldnt even fit in them. It was like id be like this, and i couldnt close the thing. Im like it sucks. How does it make you feel when that kind of stuff happens . It hurts. It hurts my feelings. But i got to do something about it. This weight got to go. I watch what i eat. Like instead of eating like six sandwiches, ill eat like two. Ill walk around the gym about 41 times. I do just like leg routines. Strengthens your legs. I cant do a pushup. I will not do a pushup. And today lucas has reached a new milestone. She was issued a smaller uniform. Whats wrong with your jumper . You dont pay no attention, claiborne, do you . What, a smaller size . How was i supposed to know . I was in that big old parachute. Lucas physique has been a source of emotional pain, shes not always been sensitive about the feelings of another woman in her unit jasmine slaughter. Avatar. Thats her new nickname. People are actually calling her that on the block now. Slaughter is awaiting trial for larceny in Fairfax County, but shes just returned from nearby Stafford County where she was sentenced on an unrelated charge of perjury. Its really, really disappointing. They gave me five months. So hopefully my time runs all together. Thats what im hoping. Im just a little depressed, you know, behind it. Tired of inmates. Just tired of being around them. The feeling seems to be mutual. After slaughter tells others about her court appearance. Talking that dumb [ bleep ]. Its not dumb. [ bleep ] dont want to be bothered with you no more, thats it. Brenda brewer has been in and out of the jail over the past 30 years and says she doesnt want to hear slaughter whine about her problems. We playing cards, and i aint going to hear that [ bleep ]. She want us to baby her. Im not going to baby her. You broke the law, so evidently you broke the law to get here. To do something. So im

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