The hands of inmates who share intimate thoughts about life behind bars. When i first got sentenced, i started stabbing police. You see guys wearing their pants down to their knees thinking theyre cool and stuff. That would get you gang raped or Something Like that. When i first got to prison, like i said, i had blood on my mind. You have your murderers and rapists. We have people in there with 400, 500, 600 years. We have cameras and people walking all the time. Still, you cant be with them 24 7. If they want to jump somebody, theyll jump them. If they want to jump me, they can come right in my door and jump me. Thats the way it goes. Thats prison. Theres guys in here, you know why theyre in here. I get two newspapers a day and i read them from one end to the other and i know whats going on. Pull up right there on the wall. In the initial seconds that officers respond to a report of a fight between inmates, the first challenge is sorting through a yard full of convicted criminals to determine who was involved. I dont know who was involved. Was he involved . I dont know. Oh, just hold up. Suddenly, a lockup producer encounters the victim outside the prisons medical clinic. Where . Where do you want me . He is bleeding profusely from deep slashes in his neck, stomach, arm, and leg. He just attacked me for no reason. Oh, im sorry. Thats all right. Hey, whats his name . Ellerman. Call for the ambulance. Call for the ambulance. Hey, dont throw them away. Theyre brand, spanking new. Can you put them in a bag, please . Yes, sir. Okay. Weve got another cut up here, guys. Okay. How bad . Is this worse than this . No. Its okay. Come on, man. While prison medics work on pat ellerman, officers continue their search for his attacker. Were looking for a longhaired white guy. They said he got to main street. A white guy with long hair, right . I understand you have somebody that went to medical. There was a longhaired guy. Is he the one that went to medical . Yes. Thats affirmative. Who was the second one . Who was was there a third one . There was a third one. He took off. We cant identify him. Knowing only that ellermans attacker has long hair, officers detain an inmate. But soon determine he wasnt involved, and the search continues. Come on. One at a time. Come on, guys. Lets go. Step up. Just hang on. Anything in your pockets . Take it out. Just this right here. A short time later, another inmate is taken in for questioning. Weve got one guy with one of the weapons. I already took the weapons up to the custody hall. Dont worry about those shoes. There was extensive tendon damage to the affected arm. He wont be coming back here anytime soon. Hes going to be transferred to a medical facility thats going to be able to deal with that kind of damage. They called me in from home. Right now were in the crime scene, so watch your feet. See what these are. These are gravitational droplets. This is where hes walking and his hands are moving or hes got other wounds on him, and the blood is dropping from his body to the ground. The blood. So the actual incident might have taken place here, but they were struggling, it looks like, from up here all the way to the fence. Looks like a smear. I cant it tell it if this is blood right now. It looks like a smear, like somebody fell down. Like a mark that kind of dragged across. This is the victims blood. After surveying the crime screen, investigator Chuck Wheeler examines the weapon. Its an xacto blade from a hobby craft box. Took a little bit of time to put a couple pieces of wood together to hold it in place. A razor blade type weapon will do a lot of damage. The suspect, Michael Ray Stafford, is brought in for questioning. Have a seat right there. Do you want to tell me where you got the knives from . 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When you throw 200, 300 men in close confines like that, youre going to have violence. I mean theres just no way around it. You put a dog on a short chain and taunt him long enough, hes going to bite you. You put him around 50 other dogs, theyre going to fight. Its just a fact of life. A vicious stabbing has just occurred at indiana state prison. The victim with deep slashes across his neck, stomach, arm, and leg, has been rushed to a hospital. The suspected assailant, Michael Ray Stafford, has been brought into internal affairs for questioning. I jumped on him earlier today. Were you physically assaulted at that time . Yeah. Then what happened . I heard the guy talking while i was waiting for chow, talking about watch what happens to him when we come out. Later i heard him say, i killed the little bastard. Is this the same guy that you got in a fight with that was talking . Im not really even sure. Okay. Then what happened . Went all all hell broke loose. Well, who had the knives . I dont know nothing. You dont know nothing about two weapons sitting there on my desk . Look, ive already been beat up once today. Yeah. I heard people talk about killing somebody when the doors come open. I come out to defend myself. Im not dying in here. I can understand that. If its between him and me, im sorry about his [ bleep ] luck. Thats what happened. Thats all there is to it. I didnt thats was it the same guy that made the comment . Im not going to build a case for you. At this time, were going to end the statement. 2,200 people in here for different things. A lot of them in here for murder. Long time, big time. You could walk down the street tomorrow and get beat up. You could get stabbed just walking down the street. Its just it happens. Back in the 1980s when major cabanaw patrolled isp as a correctional officer, he experienced such violence firsthand. Ive been assaulted, yeah. I fought for my life a couple of times. We had three offenders back in the back with knives. And the only thing i had when i went back there was one of the guys in the cage give me a cutoff mop stick. This guy was trying to stab me, and i broke that stick over his head and got the knife from him, but all i can say is he probably was lucky that the stick broke. Personally i try to treat the offenders the way they treat me. They treat me all right, dont give me a problem, then im not going to give them a problem. But ill tell you what, if they cross me, i can be their worst enemy. James stone is one of the offenders that used to test cabanaws mettle. My first eight years here was very violent. Thats what i did for a hustle. Guys that were having problems that were owed money and couldnt get it, theyd come to me and say, will you collect this for us . Id say, yeah, but i get half. Id go up there and split their wig and say, you got a week to get the money, or the next time im not going to be nice. Over the years, stone has grown less violent and more committed to his prison job, which today will take him to the fifth floor of i cell house. The intensive detention unit. The most dreaded cell block at isp. Theres currently about 99 people, thats our maximum capacity, here on idu. And you can hear this is what its like pretty much every day. Youve got you walk out pretty much with a lot of headaches every day. This is like prison within prison. Someone is going to try to gun you down. These guys are going to get combative with you. These guys will try to stab you, and, hence, the stab vest i have to wear. This is idu. This is the real deal. [ bleep ] and youve got to have a thick skin to work here too. Oh, no theyve got an overflowed toilet on idu. Got to go up and clean up. Im the backup. Biohazard. Ive got to clean blood, crap, urine, overflowed toilets. You know, its a glamour job. What im anticipating, just cleaning up some swamp water. Unless theres a maneating turd in there or Something Like that, im pretty well safe. But then, again, with the food we get here, you never know. Stones a good person. Hes a hard worker. One of the hardest workers that i know. Hey, dont clean that stuff. Getting ready to. Hes a convict. A convict is one of the older ones. Oh, right here. Here we are. Spilled toilet. The difference is they respect more people in here. The officers i think they respect the officers. They have jobs. They go to work. They stay out of trouble. Been in prison for 24 years now. When i first came to prison, i didnt have much to lose or anything because the time they gave me was more or less a death sentence anyway. Back in the old days, wintertime came around, those windows were bolted open. The heat was shut off. Everyone stayed in shape because theyd jog in place and do pushups or whatever just to stay warm. Now these guys have hot water in the showers. Didnt have it back then. You have to think about sexuality sometimes because when you take a shower when its only in the teens, its like, damn, where did it go . The kids are more the inmates, the older guys are the convicts and theyre getting less and less. Holy mackerel. Isp is slowly going from convict to inmate. Were getting a lot of younger kids in here who are not used to prison life. And theyre not used to interacting with us. Its a bird, its a plane. No, its the bio bucket man. These new guys coming in here now, theyve got pants hanging down to their knees or they have grunge on their headset or Something Like that. On the phone calling mommy and daddy so they can get a nickel sack or a crack head ball or whatever theyve got going on around and they want to cry. They say state this, state that. The state aint doing nothing for you. Youre here. The state could care less. They done did what they were going to do. Ruined your life or what. But youre here. Make of it what you can. To the bat cave. In a prison where oldschool convicts like james stone are a dying breed, Josh Harrison represents the new generation. Im 20 years old. Ive been in prison for a little over four months. I was here for approximately two weeks, and they came and put me on the d east, which is administrative segregation, because i got into it with the officers. I broke tvs. Now im trying to do my time and get an education and go home so i can be home with my children. If harrison falls into the wilder, less disciplined ways of the inmates, he could wind up spending years in lockup. But one of the prisons oldtime convicts is committed to looking out for him. Ive known josh probably over three months now. We was all on lockup when i actually first met him. I know his his dad from inside the prison system. Me and my dad, we aint got a real good relationship. Then i met robert. Hes been more like a father than my real dad has. Hes really just a lonely kid, you know what i mean . He wants to play tough, but actually he just wants to know that someone cares about him. Every time he sees me hes like, stay out of trouble. Stay out of trouble. If i do get myself in trouble, hell cuss me out. Josh reminds me a lot of me when i was his age. I know what hes going through. He thinks hes got something to prove to people, but i think hes wanting me to see him as a tough guy, you know . Spears would soon be proven right. Next well, he passed a rumor that he wanted to try to kill me. Josh harrison finds himself in serious trouble. If i meet him right now, id beat him up just to show him youre not tough. Thanks for the ridealong, captain ive never been in one of these before, even though geico has been ohhh. Ooh ohh here we go, here we go. You got cut off there, what were you saying . Oooo. Oh no no. Maybe that geico has been proudly serving the military for over 75 years . Is that what you wanted to say . Mhmmm. I have to say, you seemed a lot chattier on tv. Geico. Proudly serving the military for over 75 years. You ok back there, buddy . Everybody in this row, you need to stand up against the wall. With a recent stabbing at indiana state prison, officers are stepping up searches for weapons. Sir, i need you to step over here. The procedure is monitored by internal Affairs Officer will mcginnis. Okay. Theres the officers shaking down in e dorm. Theyre going through underneath the bed, the mattress, personal property. And looks like something was found. All of a sudden the officer is reaching for his cuffs. You see him restraining the offender. The offender is Josh Harrison. I disappointed a lot of people in my life. I let a lot of people down. This is my wife, my wife. Thats my daughter, thats my son, the twins. My mom, shes going to flip out when she finds out i was in here and i got caught with a knife. This is a shank that was turned in from possession of offender harrison. E dorm east. And as you can see here, thats a pretty lengthy piece of iron there. Its got a pretty good point on the end of that. It could do some pretty severe damage, especially if that came up through a rib or a kidney or a lung. I got another really good friend that cares about me. I let him down, too. If i could get him right now, id beat him up just to show him youre not tough. Robert spears has been a surrogate father to harrison during the young inmates first four months at indiana state prison. Im really mad at him now. Theres no reason he should have had that knife. Hes got two babies. I told him, it aint about this, man. Youve got ten years to do. Do that ten, go home, be a dad. Its not about being in here being tough, having a reputation. On his way to preseg, a temporary lockdown for inmates awaiting disciplinary hearings, harrison reveals his reason for having the shank. The dude that murdered my cousin is in this prison. Does he live in e dorm . No, he lives in f dorm. But word was he was going to get me, so the day i heard that is the same day i got caught with it. Thats when i got the shank. All right. Shakir smith was the man that harrison was allegedly targeting. He already passed a rumor that he wanted to try to kill me or was going to kill me. And i could either go at this guy headon and probably prove everybody right that im this big, violent person that they marked me to be, or i could talk to him face up, and i came in one day from work. The dude was waiting outside. And i kind of seen he was antsy and everything. Had something in his pocket. So you had the shank in your pocket . I had tied i had a shoestring holding my pants up, and it was tied to the shoestring, hanging by my right side. Smith was convicted of killing harrisons cousin, but claims it was someone else. Yes, i do have an idea of who did it. But i aint no snitch. You had every intention of using that knife . Of course. To what extent . I wasnt going to kill the dude. What were you going to do . I was i was just going to poke him a couple of times. If somebody was going to kill sen your family, what would you do . Michael ray stafford is dealing with a different kind of loss. I havent had a haircut since october 1999. And i just this is the second time i got jumped on that they pulled all this hair out. Boy, i hate losing that. After further questioning about the brutal stabbing of inmate pat ellerman, stafford is escorted back to the special management cell that he is assigned to until the investigation is complete. We did interview the victim. The victims not being very cooperative with us. Being an oldtime convict, he doesnt want to be labeled as a snitch, so hes not giving us any statements whatsoever. As he put it, im not going to help you with your investigation at all. Some of staffords information that he gave us dont pan out. What were hearing through the rumor mill is that he owed someone some money. Were hearing that he owed the victim some money at one time. Stafford and the victim used to be friends, but over the last six months or so, theyve slowly separated and went their own way. Somebody seemed to think i owed them some money. I dont know. I think he was in debt themselves. And to get the bill collectors, so to speak, off of them, i think they just up and said, hey, that guy right there owes me some money. Stafford said there was two guys that jumped him, which we still havent proved he got beat up. Well never know that. At this point, ive got enough information between the witness statements, the video and everything to go ahead and charge mr. Stafford with class a102 battery. Thats a violation of our adult disciplinary procedures. Well put together the case for the prosecutors office. Well refer it to them, let them review it and decide whether he wants to present criminal charges. The guy that caused all this, the guy that got cut up, he had me pegged wrong. 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But me and the men in here are hard to believe pretty decent guys. The oldschool convicts and the younger less disciplined inmates at indiana state prison usually keep a distance between themselves. But another segment of the prison population roams wherever and with whomever they choose. Weve got guys in here that used to cause us problems all the time. They got a cat and they change just like that overnight. Many isp inmates are allowed to adopt cats from a local rescue shelter. This is jinxster. This is my little buddy here. Ive had him since 2005. Because my first cat died in 2005, and they replaced him with one that looks similar to him. My first cat here was jinx. Looks like he can as you can see, he was a large cat. He wasnt fat either. He was musclebound. Like i said, the first cat anybody ever seen that could pull a concrete block. Not no brick. A block across the ground. Thats how me and stone met each other. By me i was in charge of the cell houses as a captain, and id be walking the ranges, and he caught me playing with jinx one day. Thats how we became good buddies. Weve been friends ever since then. My first cat saved my life during a contract hit. He woke me up when the guy tried to take me out, and i ended up sending that guy to the hospital. So my first cat was like a watchdog. You couldnt get near me or anything like that. He guarded me. I am in charge of the cat program. You know, thats a switch, but i dont know, i like cats. I like animals. My personal opinion is our cat program is probably one of the best things weve got going on in here. By taking a cat, it gave me a sense of responsibility, something to lose, think about. Which a lot of these guys in here dont have none of that. You aint going to the vet. I think he thinks hes going to the vet. Stone, before he got jinx, he was kind of a rebelrouser. Hed go around and drink, smoke, whatever. Not wanting to do what hes told and stuff. Then when he got jinx, it just changed him. Changed him into a different person. The major himself used to come up and visit the cat all the time. He told me if i ever got in a problem and had to get rid of jinx, he would take him home to his farm himself. He really fell in love with the cat itself. Whats up, dude . How are you doing . I thought id bring him over. He aint been over for a while. Look how big hes getting. The cats do good for both sides. Staff and the guys doing time. Because they dont just affect the guy thats got the cat. Jinxster, he probably affects 50 people in the cell house alone. See you, jinxster. Hes my little buddy. I depend on him. Hes more dependable than anything ive got in here. I mean, he takes a lot of the anger and temper away. Makes it easier to cope in here. Because when i do feel like im about ready to go and do something stupid or whatever, i just hold him in my lap, pat him, stroke him a few times, and you look at those big bette davis eyes and you think, hey, this guy depends on me. Ive got to take care of him. You know . While stones cats might have helped to rein him in, its hard to say what, if anything, will help Josh Harrison. After being caught with a knife, he has been confined to the prisons preseg lockdown unit located on the fifth floor of d cell house. And now hes in even more trouble. Hes been asking about his cable all day. He has tv, but he doesnt have any cable. And he had mentioned that if he doesnt get his cable fixed by 5 30, hes going to burn the next officer down. Meaning hes going to throw either urine or feces on the next officer or possibly the next worker that comes up there. While i was standing there trying to talk some common sense into him, he took his pipe from his light switch, and he went to pull it off the wall, and the sparks started flying. And so i spoke with the shift supervisor and he told me to write him up for destruction of property. Oh, hes not going to be happy with me once he gets this. [ inaudible ] thats my camera crew. Mr. Harrison what now . For one thing, youve got to take the curtain down. Why . The next thing, i had to write you up for your little destruction of property with the light switch. That aint destructive. It aint destructive. As well as i cant get ahold of the Cable Company today. So youre not going to get any cable today. But you do have to take the curtain down. The curtain aint coming down. Its got to come down, mr. Harrison. If you cant take it down, i can get someone to help you take it down. Get somebody to help me then. Ill be back. My style, if i have an offender that doesnt want to follow my orders, then ill give them a warning. Because i understand, you know, these guys are locked in most of the day. They dont have a chance to, you know, communicate with their friends or brothers, their family, whatever it is. So ill give them a little bit of slack. Im trying. That wrote me up, man. I got destruction of property. I dont [ bleep ] know. She probably wants me to destruct her ass. Hes refusing to take his curtain down. Harrison. You want somebody to [ bleep ]. I aint doing that, sarge. Man, i want my privacy. Come here. Now, if i see that curtain its going back up as soon as i will come in here, shake you down, and take you up and have you stripsearched and write you up myself. Get the cable fixed. Im trying to get your cable fixed. But i do not want to see that curtain up again. If my cable aint fixed by 6 00, were going to have problems, man. I promise you, theres going to be drama up here all night. Did you just tell me today that you wanted to go home . I do. But shes going to write me up for petty [ bleep ]. You cant be in here destroying property. I dont see any destruction. [ bleep ] if you dont write me up, im going to rip it out. [ bleep ]. Wouldnt it be easier to beat the writeup if it wasnt torn down . Im not going to beat it when she says i ripped up my wall. Thats not my harrison, youre not the only one in here with problems. We both know that you want your cable fixed. And we both will do what we can to get it fixed. I dont want no more about gunning no officers down if you dont get it done. Because you dont need no more writeups. You dont need no more nothing. All right . In order for you to go home, you need to sit back and keep your mouth shut, okay . All right. Next, harrison gets chewed out by his surrogate father. What did i tell you way ahead of time. Leave that alone. And later i expect to be on two or maybe four years. I dont know. 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Inmates, they dont stand on anything. They do whatever makes them happy and without regard for anybody thats around them. Back years ago, we had a lot of convicts here. They were a little different. They took responsibility for what they did do and what type of crime, whatever, they did. Now we have a lot of offenders inmates that its all about me. It seems like we owe them. Get the cable fixed. They feel society owes them. They owe society. And thats where were trying to teach them to take responsibility for their actions. Hard as they try, however, prison staff do not always succeed. But sometimes a convict can do what an officer cant. As Josh Harrison currently in preseg for being caught with a knife is about to find out. He knows im a little upset at him because of the knife situation but i actually told him, ill try to get up and see you. But hes going to try to give me a dumb little story. You can believe that. Oh, they was going to do something. He knows im not going to let no one do nothing to him. So that would be weak to me. Convict Robert Spears has been a surrogate father to Josh Harrison since harrison first arrived at indiana state. Now hes decided to drop in on harrison for a friendly visit. You think its funny, dont you. What have i been telling you . Because of my cousin. What did i tell you . Way ahead of time . Let god take care of that. It aint your business to take care of that, man. Do you want someone raising your two little kids . Calling somebody else dad . No. Okay. If you killed him, what are you going to get, dude . Life. A life bid. Youre stupid, dude. If you dont use your head, youre going to lose the rest of your life right here. Youre still a kid, dude. But you turn around and be my age and not even know it. Look at me. 43 now, man. What are you doing . Ive done done. Ive been through it. Done it. Lockup, stabbing, fighting, being tough. You dont have to be tough, man. If i could get ahold of you, boy, id whip you just for that reason. And id try to knock your teeth out just because i care about you, boy. Just to wake you up. Youre ignorant. You cant really tell you me youre stupid, you know, because youre not. If you was, id have put you in a noose a long time ago. You know how i do it. I dont know about you, boy. You hurt my feelings. I can tell you that. You let me down. Of all the people, i thought you were going to come through. You better wake up, josh. No matter how much i care about you, if you got to learn the hard way, youre going to do that on your own, man. If you get into this anymore, im for real done, man. You got anything down there . What do you need . Food. Ill send you some up later. Just shut up, man. Just stay out of trouble. You talk too much. Stay out of trouble. Stay out of trouble. Love you, bub. See you later, man. Straight idiot, man. If i could hit him in the mouth right now, i would. I let him down. How much time harrison spends in the hole will be determined in a Disciplinary Board hearing just like the one awaiting Michael Ray Stafford for allegedly stabbing pat ellerman. Bestcase scenario would be that they forget about this. Stafford is assigned an inmate advocate to help him present his case at the hearing. Did you get a copy of the investigators report . No. Heres what i would say. No matter what the outcome is, i would plead not guilty to it just for the simple fact, if you dont i thought i already pled not guilty. But shes going to ask you what your plea is again inside of here. Yeah, right. Okay. You dont want to plead guilty to something that has the possibility of an outside charge. Ill take care of it from here. Okay. Youre done. He wants a copy of this and he says he wants to ride out solo from here. So youre waiving your right . I dont want any help. Okay. You can go ahead and step outside. Have a seat. This is your copy of the evidence card. The weapons they found. One taken off of you. This is the video outside of a cell house of the incident. You were wrote up on a 102. Battery with a weapon. When you were screened, you said not guilty. Is that still your plea . Not guilty. Do you have a statement on the incident . You know, i was beat up twice in one day here. Ive had three people putting knots on my head. And im the only one locked up . Whats going on here . Did you report the incidents to anybody . About being beat up . How could i do that . Ive got to live here. I understand that, but you could have went down and said, hey, this happened. You didnt have to give them a name. You didnt know who did it. And if id have done that, where would i be now . I dont know. Yeah, you do. You work here. You know what would have happened if id done that. Anything else you want to add to your statement . No. No. Its not doing me any good. Based on that case file, i am going to find you guilty of battery, give you a year. 92208 to 92109. Take 180 days. Demote you from credit class one to credit class two. I will give you an appeal form so that you can appeal that. Assigned to a year of disciplinary segregation, stafford will be locked up 23 hours per day, lose some of his personal property, and not be allowed contact with general population inmates. Im going to be living like an animal, in a cage with nothing. Absolutely nothing. Over what . Because somebody tried to take my [ bleep ] away from me. I protected myself. This is what happens. That guy was coming at me with a weapon. I had to do something. I had to do it right then. Shes talking about why didnt you get an officer . Hell, i cant get an officer. If i went and got an officer, where would i be now . Id be the one lying in the hospital all cut up. Its a bad deal all the way around. No such thing as defending yourself. Coming up i didnt know he had a knife. The stabbing victim comes to general population. I noticed i had a couple of drops of blood on my shoes so i stepped back look this and he went like this. Josh harrison faces the consequences of having a shank in prison. In prison. Hey, that baker ladys on tv again. Shes not a baker. She wears that apron to sell insurance. Nobody knows why. Shes the progressive insurance lady. They cover pets if your owner gets into a car accident. Covers us with what . You got me. [ scoffs ] shes an insurance lady. And i suppose this baker sells insurance, too . Progressive protects your pets like you do. You can see the secret life of pets 2 only in theaters. The secret life of pets 2 cant see what it is yet. Re . What is that . Thats a blazer . Thats a chevy blazer . Aww, this is dope. This thing is beautiful. I love the lights. Oh man, its got a mean face on it. It looks like a piece of candy. Look at the interior. This is nice. This is my sexy mom car. I would feel like a cool dad. Its just really chic. I love this thing. Its gorgeous. I would pull up in this in a heartbeat. I want one of these. That is sharp. The allnew chevy blazer. Speaks for itself. I dont know who they got to design this but give them a cookie and a star. Michael stafford knows a thing or two about violence. I got shot in the head years ago, and i got a big old hole in my ear here. Thats where the bullet came out. The bullet went in underneath my right eye and came out my left ear. This window here is up higher than the wall. I remember coming up, i looked out there and seen a car going down the street. It donned and me, damn, there is a world out there. Its been so long since i seen a car. But stafford has now left the cell with a view to the detention unit where hell be locked up. The Disciplinary Board has found him responsible for the stabbing of pat ellerman. Got the blood out of my shoes. Thats why i stopped fighting because i seen blood on my shoes. Two weeks after his brutal stabbing, ellerman has returned to general population. I was stabbed ten times. I think i won the fight, he won the war. Stafford received a year in the hole despite ellermans refusal to cooperate with the investigation. Its all part of the convict code. Im a convict. You dont tell nothing. Thats just the way it is. I mean ive got to live here the rest of my life. I dont want anybody thinking that im weak, that im going to talk, that im going to say anything about anything. Im not mad at the guy. If more people would do what he did instead of this poking and running, this would be a different prison, and im sort of impressed that he went that far. He could have cut me and ran. I didnt know he had a knife while he was cutting me. I didnt know. He had a knife. How did you not know . I was busy. I was fighting. At what point did you realize you had been stabbed . At the very end i had him by the hair and i was uppercutting him. I had new shoes on. Then i noticed i had a couple of drops of blood on my shoe. So i stepped back like this and he reached up and went like this. And i noticed i was holding him so hard when he went like this, it was like a rubber band. Bam, bam, bam. I said, oh, man. And i let him go. You were severely stabbed. Im just curious how you wouldnt have felt that. Because i was enjoying fighting. But fighting has led to one of the greatest regrets of ellermans life, the loss of a relationship with his 13yearold son. He has only heard from him once in the past eight years. I wish my son would get to know me before i die. I sure do. When he was born, i swore to him as he was looking at me, never come back to prison. I told him i quit fighting. I lied to him. I dont want my son to end up like me. In any way. I never knew my father. He disappeared out of my life when i was 5 years old, but he died. I didnt get a chance to meet him. All i ever heard about him he hung out in bars, he was a fighter, he was really tough. I didnt think that thats what i wanted to be, but thats what i turned into, and i dont want him to subconsciously try to turn into me. I do not id rather see anything than my son going to prison, anything. Anything. Ready to go . After being caught with a shank and other lesser violations, Josh Harrison is about to be separated from the convict that he considers his surrogate father. He has been given an 18month term in the prisons intensive detention unit where he will be locked up 23 hours per day and not permitted to associate with general population inmates. On his way to idu, hes allowed one last goodbye. Where are you going . Idu. A year and a half. I love you. You too, bub. I told you to stay out of trouble. Stay out of trouble, kid. This will be harrisons first time on idu. With good behavior, he might not serve the entire year and a half, but thats small consolation of this cellblock, a place where the prisons most dangerous inmates seemingly spend 24 hours a day shouting threats at each other. Hes nervous. I think hes nervous. This is his first time up here on idu, so its nervewracking. This is smaller than a [ bleep ] regular cell. Hopefully hell do his year and a half, go back out to population, and straighten up, and if not . Then hell be up here longer and probably get more conduct reports. If he acts up in here, theyll probably ship him out of here. Depends on what these guys down here are talking about. Idu, baby visitation draws families together. But it also sparks a crackdown on contra band that grips the entire prison. And now weve put our cameras in the hands of inmates who share intimate thoughts about life behind bars. This prison will eat you up and spit you out
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