Theres no reason that we can keep going through this i made a mistake, i thought i was under attack. The Democratic Candidates must show they have a real solution to policing. Whether its in south bend, whether its in new york around the choking death of eric gardner, whether its philadelphia. Its a national problem. If you want national leadership, then get up and lead. That does it for me. This weekend. But thanks for tuning in. Ill see you back here next saturday, 5 00 pmp eastern rdayn this sunday my sit down with president donald trump. A blunt, frank, and farreaching interview. What happened last night . Reporter on why he stopped the planned Military Strike in iran. Here were sitting with with 150 dead people that would have taken place within half an hour
after i said go ahead and i didnt like it. I didnt think it was proportionate. On u. S. Iranian relations. Im not looking for war and if there is, it will be obliteration like youve neverer seen before but you cant have a nuclear weapon. Theyre in terrible shape down there, president. In homestead, florida, the conditions are terrible. I agree and its been there a long time. A lawsuit that would kill coverage for preexisting conditions. Im in favor of preexisting conditions. So drop your aspect of the lawsuit. And on his biggest regret as president. If you could have one do over as president , what would it be . And what mr. Trump thinks of how imp peachment could impact his reelection prospects, if hell keep Vice President pence on the ticket and this morning one on one with president. Dwae and the democrats heading to the first debates, joe biden and Pete Buttigieg confront questions on race. And peter baker, chief White House Correspondent for the new york times, Wall Street Journal columnist, peggy nunen and loggy chen of stanford university. Welcome to sunday and a Special Edition of Meet The Press. From nbc news, the longest running show in television history, this is a Special Edition of Meet The Press with chuck tautd. Its safe to say were at one of the pivotal points of the 2020 election cycle. Though you could argue hes been running for reelection since he signed his papers the day he was inaugurated and the democrats will their starting gun when 20 candidates face off for two nights of debates this coming week in miami. And President Trump will be a dominating presence at those debates. One way or the other, it will be a refer rendm on donald trump. He will argue hes a successful businessman turned president with a successful economy, apoined conservative judges. In short hell argue hes made America Great again. Democrats will say hes a bigot whos caged children and embarrassed america before the world and in short unfrit the office. I sat down for an interview that touched on well, almost everything. From the crisis at the border to the Mueller Report to whether hell accept the results if he loses. And we start with the decision to call off a strike on iran. What happened last night . Well, you had a situation that was very bad because the night before they shot down an unmanned drone and the unmanned is a very big factor. It fact there was not a person on it. A u. S. Person or anybody. And that had an impact on me. I said we got problem. And i think they did it on purpose because they understand they will be hit very hard if that water plane with a person in it and i think they knew there was nobody there. We had a modest but pretty heavy attack schedule. And this is a preplan that you had if they did something these were sort of readymade plans. I have so many targets you wouldnt believe. So did you green light something or had you said if we do it, ill do this . Nothing is green lighted until the very end because things change. So you never gave final ord
snr. No but we had something redty go subject to my approval and they came in about half an hour before and said sir, were about ready to go. Were planes in the air . About ready to go. No, but they would have been pretty soon and things with would have happened to a point where you wouldnt turn back or couldnt turn back. So they said sir, wed like decision. I said i want to know something before you go. How many people will be killed . In this case iranians. How many people were going to be killed. Sir, id like to get back to you on that. Great people these generals. They came back said, sir, approximately 150. And i thought about it for a second and i said you know what they shot down an unmanned drone, plane, whatever you want to call it and here we are sitting with with 150 dead people that would have taken place within half an hour after
i said go ahead. And i didnt like it. I didnt think it was proportionate. You think they were trying to provoke you . No, i dont think so. And i think its very important to them. You dont think they intended to get you to respond . Their economy is shattered. Their inflation is through the roof. The highest in the world right now. Theyre living not well. Do you want to do a deal with iran or get everybody involved in the same deal with the russians and the chinese . I dont care what kind of deal. Separate or total. One on one talks with you the ayatollah . Anything that gets you to the result that cannot have a nuclear weapon. A lot of people covered it incorrectly. They cannot have a nuclear weapon. Theyd use it and theyre not go having to a nuclear weapon. Reuters is reporting you sent
a message i dont want war, i want to talk. I did not send that message. I dont know who would have said that. I mean its fake news. Then sunday message right now. Wouldnt be much different than their message. Which is . Im not looking for war and if there is, it will be obliteration like youve never seen before. But you skraent a nuclear weapon. You want to talk, good. No preconditions . Not as far as im concerned. You cant have nuclear weapons. If you want to talk about it, good. Otherwise, you can live in a Shattered Econfraemomy for long to come. Do you feel you were being pushed into Military Action . I have doves and hawks. John bolton is absolutely a hawk. If it was up for him, hed take on the whole world at one time. But that doesnt matter because i want both sides. I was against going to iraq for
years and years and before it happened i was against going to iraq. And some people said i dont know. I was a private citizen. It never made sense to me. I was against going to the middle east. We spent 7 trillion in the middle east right now. What would candidate trump have said about under his watch, a venezuelan dig Tartd Thumbing his nose, and drone shot down and lets take a look. The borders doing great. Mexicos doing fantastic. So for 45 years they couldnt get a deal. I got one in one day. I said were going to put tariffs on. And mexico just moved 6,000 people to their southern border. 6,000 troops to their southern border and the wall is being built. A lot of people dont like to talk about it. We will have 400 miles of wall built by the end of next year
and thats hard because the democrats dont want to aprive it. We just beat them in a big lawsuit in washington and d. C. Does it frustrate you that your numbers are worse than obamas . Theyre pouring up because the economy is good. Obama had a dead economy. Let me show you this. You see this chart . Unemployment rate from the peek of the procession. Your economy is great. Im not saying rirls not great. The 28 months youve been president and it the last 28 months of obamas presidency he averaged more new jobs. Because he started off such a bad base. I mean nobody was working. The whole place was a disaster. I never take that away. But its very easy because they pumped a tremendous amount of money into economy. And he had a Federal Reserve person who kept the interest
rates low. I dont. Raised them far too fast. Do you think thats had i didnt threaten to demote him. There was talk youd threaten to move him to the number two spot . I have a right to do that but i havent said that. 50 billion a month in quantitate chb tightening, thats ridiculous. What hes done is raised Interest Rates too fast. I think the economys so strong were going to bowl through it. But im not happy with his actions, no. I think if he didnt raise rates, obama had very low rates. So obama was playing with funny money. I wasnt. Im playing with the real stuff. Obama had somebody who kept the rates very low. Ib had somebody that raised the rates very rapidly, too much. He made a mistake. Thats been proven. And yet my economy is phenomenal. We have now the best economy in maybe the history of our country. When i took over this country, the economy was ready to collapse. It was ready to collapse. I just showed you the numbers. It was not ready to collapse. Take a look at your gdp, your jobs, optimism. All of the charts when i took over from election day on, i mean you show me one chart but im not talking about that. Take a look at some of the optimism charts. It wentz from 57 to 92. The optimism. Auoptimism is a big part of success in business. You thought he wasnt a cheerleader. He was not a cheerleader. If you had one do over . Personnel. I would not have appointed Jeff Sessions to be attorney general. In your mind i think hes a Very Taleneded roy cone. But i had many lawyers. A lot of lawyers. Roy was a tough guy. Bill barr cut from the same cloth you think . Hes equally tough. Hes a fine man. The job hes done is incredible. Hes brought sanity back. I dont think. I know hes respected. He loves the Department Of Justice. He saw what was happening. He has done a spectacular job. Now hes in the process of doing something and i stay away from it. But i think he feels that whats happened irn this country was a very bad thing and bad for our country e. Thats part one of my interview with President Trump. Let me bring in the panel. Lonny chen of the Wall Street Journal, peggy nunen and chief correspondent for the new york times. First take away, peter. Youre dousing with him in an interesting way. And its interesting hes letting you do this. Because most president s wouldnt allow you to push that way. I think he likes that. I think hes enjoying giving you his case for reelexz as you already outlined. Hes running the economy despite all the things obama had done wrong. Hes the one tough on iran. Obama gave away the store. The question is whether the results are going to end up being their November 2020 as you said. Walls not built. Border crossings are up. Can he make enough of a case on the economy and obama care and things like that . His fed chair could slow down his economy. Jeff sessions worst mistake he made. Those are people to blame if things arent going right. And let me start there because he mentioned Jeff Sessions but he first said personnel. How this week evolved, hes grappling with iran but doesnt have a Defense Secretary in place. This decision to pull back on his threat of Ice Deportations and of course Jerome Powell, taking aim at Jerome Powell and dangling the possibility of demoting him to the number two slot. This has hovered overhis entire administration. It can continues to plague him as he makes these critical choices. All correct. I agree with everything you said but mostly what i saw is he loves this. He loves talking, interviewing. Hes loaded for bear. Hes
thought out the foras hes going to take in the future and i have hawks and sympathetic or supportive of the idea that hes thinking about this. And he listens to them and then he makes it decision. I tell you i dont believe he ever will. The person that iveinate viewed and known for a long time and his positions on this, he was reveling in the fact that everybody confused. This was the classic articulation of democracy at work. Theres a piece of leverage that maybe hes created and he
doesnt allow people to really know what hes think and so he may or may not exercise or use that leverage and uses that to bring his adversary to the table. Youve seen it with china, mexico and now iran. And in many ways it has become entirely predictable. The predictable have become entirely predictable. I think if you look at trump from the campaign and the donald trump we know about not wanting to get entangled in the middle east, it was very likely. Was that a confident president or is he trying to show so much confidence because hes nervous about the economy and iran, nervous about the border. Nervous about Jeff Sessions, which is code for investigations. As you say he Just Announced his reelection this past week. Hes eager to get out there in the fight. Theres an insecurity that fuels this cocky kind of persona that
he likes to project to the public. And theres always been this idea that he hasants done enough to impres the elites and i think this is sort of part and partial of his appeal to a lot of americans out there feel the same way. You guys are looking down on me but im doing okay. Why do you treat me this way . I wrote this phrase down when you asked him about the economy. Forerse he said were going to bowl through it. I thoughts that was striking. Its not the word or term you would use if youre feeling really confident about the future prospects of the economy. Im going to have to grind in my reelection. And internally conflicted, how to seem tough and that same time not to get more mired in the middle east. When we come back more on the mueller investigation. The battle for preexisting conditions and all of those
children in migrant camps. Theyre in tearerable shape down there, mr. President. In homestead, florida, where i grew up, the conditions are terrible. I agree and its been that way for a long time. I agree an way for a long time. Hold my pouch. Trust us. Us kids are ready to take things into our own hands. Dont think so . Hold my pouch. But were also a cancer fighting, hiv controlling, joint replacing, and Depression Relieving company. From the day youre born we never stop taking care of you. From the day youre born so chantix can help you quit slow turkey. Rkey. Along with support, chantix is proven to help you quit. With chantix you can keep smoking at first and ease into quitting. Chantix reduces the urge so when the day arrives, youll be more ready to kiss cigarettes goodbye. When you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. 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In homestead, florida, where i grew up, the conditions are terrible. I agree and its been that way for a long time. And President Obama built the cages it was 1914. It was 2014. Just lisson for one second. Separation. President obama i took over separation. Im the one that put it together. Whats happened are the car teles and all of these bad people, theyre using the kids. Its almost like slavery. Lets not punish the kids. Youre right and this is happening long before i got there. What weve done is ended separation. Under President Obama you had separation. I was the one that ended it. I said one thing. I said heres whats going to happen more families are going to come up and thats whats happened. Once you ended the separation. But i ended separation. I inherited separation from President Obama. President obama built they call them jail cells. They were built by obama. Youre not schooling the can kids anymore. Youve gotten rid of that stuff. Were doing a fantastic job under circumstances. The Democrats Arent Approving Giving Us the money. It looks like these kids are being used as some sort of is it hostage . Theyre being used by very bad people and actually get paid money is being made, using them because our laws are so bad. If you have a child, you have anned a vantdage. Why Threlet The Political De hurt these children . If the democrats would changing the asylum laws and loopholes, everything would be solved immediately. But they refuse to do it. They refuse. If they changed as i say i used to say 45 minutes. If they changed asylum and loopholes, everything on the border would be perfect. Why do you think nancy pelosi has held off her impeachment caucus . Because i think she feels i will win much easier. Do you think its good politics for you . I think i win the election easier but im not sure i like having it. Look, i did nothing wrong. I was spied on. It was illegal on the other side. So impeachments a very unfair thing because nothing i did was wrong. And if you look at the Mueller Report there was no collusion. You say no collusion. Ive read this Mueller Report, both parts, theres not one place that says nothing happened. Use the word collusion and conspiracy. Nobody mentions russia anymore since the Mueller Report in all fairness. Nobody mentions russia anymore and it was about russia. It was a hoax. What hoax . It was a hoax. The russian hoax with me. You dont believe the russians interfered with our election . Were not talking about that. The idea that you were conspiring. Fair enough. On wikileaks, knowing now that was stolen foreign material, do you regret using it . I wouldnt have but this was well known. I think it was in papers and im going back a long ways it was russian property, why would you use it . I made a speech knowing theyre a russian intelligence asset thats not my deal in life. I dont know about wikileaks. It was a strange name. There were stories they had information and i say it in a joking manner at speech, joking. Everybody laughing. And they made it like it was serious. No. I dont want anything bad to happen to our country. Anything bad happens to this country, ill end it and end it fast. I dont want kba eof that to happen. Youre going to see vladimir
putin . Areio you going to ask him directly about interference in the eelection . I may. Some think your answer last week invited him to do it again. I said both. Id do both and when they did put it on, people understood. They put a different segment on. But when i said yeah, id do both, people saw that in the last version off it because the thing played like all weekends and on friday. So its just more fake news. Chuck, theres so much fake news. The Republican Party has change said in your image. Do you think you caused that change or the party was changing and you were the leader they selectsed . I think commonsense caused it. People say are you conservative . I i guess im conservative. Were go having to borders and mexico has done a great job. Its slowed down so much. But we have an amazing economy and people want to come up. But im about borders. Im about Great Health Care. Obama care is a disaster. I got rid of the by the way why is economy doing so well you said obamacare is going to destroy the economy. I could have let it implode and kill it. This lawsuit that Department Of Justice joined, it could get rid of preexisting conditions. Im in fav of preexisting conditions. So drop your aspect of the lawsuit. It has nothing to do with it. The lawsuit is one thing. Were going to put in a bill total preexisting condition the republicans are in favor of preexistic conditions. You had full republican control and couldnt pass anything. We had a negative votes from john mccain. A surprising vote. But i got rid of the worst part
which was the individual mandate. We will always protect existing conditions. And i made a big decision. We have a man named azar, our secretary whos fantastic man, alex. A total pro. I could have managed obama care so it would have failed, or i could have managed it the way we did so its as good as it can be. Not great but its too expensive, the premiums are too high. I had a decision to make. I could have politically killed obama care. I decided not to do it. But still its not good. Were going to come up with Great Health Care if we win the house, the senate and the presidency. Are you prepared to lose . No, probably not. Probably not. It would be much better if i said yeah. Much easier for me to say oh, yes. No, im probably not too prepared to lose. You didnt like the fact that
you lost the popular vote . I Say Something that again is controversial. There were a lot of votes cast that i dont believe. I look at california thats surprising. Take a look at Judicial Watch where california admitted to 1 million votes. Of what . What are you talking about . Judicial watch made a settlement about what . But let me tell you about popular vote. I think id do bet wr with a popular vote but i didnt campaign for the popular vote. You didnt see me campaigning in california or new york. If it was up to the popular vote, i would have done even better. I won 306 to 223 in the electoral college. Youre training for the hundred yard dash verses the mile. Youre totally right. I disagree. I went to michigan. She didnt go to michigan enough. I won wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania. No, maybe i did a great job. I never get credit for that. They say she was a lousy candidate. I think she was a great candidate. Very smart, very tough, ruthless and vicious. Youd rather run against her again wouldnt you . You spend lot of time talk about it. No, id rather run against biden. Sleepy joe. And the popular vote, at least me. I go to three places. I wentd to 19 or 21 states. I went to maine four times because i wanted to get one and i did get it. And thats the beauty of the electoral college. You joked about a third time. Crazy. You will accept the results. Lets go for a third term and then a fourth. Driving people crazy. And about endorsing. I got a lot of people going is mike pence 100 on your ticket . And no, zeer oeo. So why did you hesitate in endorsing . It was a surprise question. So far out. I mean it so far out. That would be the only reason. What happens in 2024 . I dont know that mike is going to run. I dont know whos running or anything else. Yes, theres much more to my interview and you can see it all unedited on our website Meet The Press. Com and late arfew minutes in the oval office. I read this morning i had the greatest base ever in politics. E greatest base ever in politics a mom nooooo. son nooooo. avo quick, the quicker picker upper bounty picks up messes quicker and is 2x more absorbent. Bounty, the quicker picker upper. Play it cool and escape heartburn fast with new tums chewy bites cooling sensation. Tum tum Tum Tums Woman on phone discover. Hi. Do you have a travel card . Yep. Our miles card. Earn unlimited 1. 5 miles
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were back now with the panel. Peggy, theres a lot to digest in that one because we went in a lot of places. I first want to start with the Child Migrant issue. Because he just hes not personalizing that one. He personalizes almost everything in our interview. He sounds a bit almost too dispassionate. Thats interesting you found him to be a little distanced on the subject. I know he thinks it is a big issue for him still in the coming eelection. I know also that there is probably a sense within him that he is perceived by others to be failing there at the border, not
only for the issues you mentioned, which are very serious but because its been three years and nothing is under control down there. So maybe that has something to do with his thinking. I was listening to your audience as we were watching this interview and i thautd of this president , we shouldnt lose soilgt because we see him every day. This is a compelling character who people are watching closely and it always be closing. I sense he is always closing. But i heard a lot of laughter from your audience and strong engagement. The Frustration Thing to a lot of people is this president is in a position to do the deal on immigration. He is in the position and everyone knows the term oz of the deal. Everyone understands what the dmps want out of it, what the republicans would like to see in terms of Border Security and a meritbased system. And i imagine its frustrating because politics involved. Its an election year, especially difficult to do immigration in an eelection year. And i think the president is the one with the opportunity to get this done. Is he going to get it was interesting peggy said always be closing. But is he going to get a reputation that he bluffs too much . Its a great question and in the last two weeks he did this three times. Says im going to impose crippling tariffs unless you do what i wauncht. And same thing with iran. Not saying he got a deal. And on the Ice Deportations. Nancy pelosi called me so i held off for two weeks. I get it for the base but he is being accommodating. Saying im going to be the reasonable guy, even though its a cries he himself set up. Its going to be a weekend of mass deportation, well, maybe its not. Hes the creator of a crasis crisis and then savler. I think he looks at it as a way of getting where he wants to go. You put out an almost extreme version of what you want to get to pushes your other side to get 70 80 of what you want and he these to sort of come up with a deal thats not much off a deal. In watching your exchange about these kids that the border, made me think of the phrase he othered over and over again i alone can fix it and i
think hes deeply frustrated he cant fix the problem. And then say look, now im calling on democrats and republicans to get something done on asylum. Thats not going to happen. What could happen. They are considering these bills that would a add more funding and hell claim credit and say we got this done ultimately. I want to talk about what he said about Hillary Clinton and joe biden. Daniel henger had an interesting observation about joe biden and the sleeply joe reference. He said its trumps sleepy joe problem. Me many voters just want respite from the volatility. For them it may not be an insult. Political belief Still Matters but maybe not as much as neurological relief from personality over load. And in some ways that interview
and this column, you see how that could go together. Oh, sure. Do you remember on the Ed Sullivan Show when we were little children there was a guy who came and balanced plates. Hed put a plate up, get another, get another and run back and forth trying to keep them up. Balancing platsz is part of this administration and president. Look, its nonstop harumscarum. Even something in the past may have been as cleanly logically handled as the iran thing became nonstop harumscarum. This meaning, no, it has this meaning. I did for this reason. He is exhausting. I think a great for the president is he seems to exhaust, not into submission but ultimate aversion. Many people in the middle who would like to be thattic but
thing this is too much. Stop tweeting, taunting. I mean thats his style. Its this notion that youre going to change who he is. I think we should give up on that. All the criticism about there being no process in the white house, i mean the president arrives at decisions the way hes going to arrive at dedecisions. All these Democratic Candidates criticizing on process. And i love a good process more than anything else. And why do that . Hes going to do what hes going to do. Nonstop harumscarum is an approach that can exhaust people. And i think hes struggling with how to take on biden. And you saw that when he was in florida launching his campaign. So he went back to his Talking Points on Hillary Clinton hes decided shes a great candidate now. Because shes a great candidate because it would make his victory seem more impressive. All right, guys. Were going to pause it here. There is another big event in a couple of days. Coming up the democrats battle for the nomination as we head to the first democratic debate, they confront difficult questions on race. Fficult questions on race. The leading luxury suv of all time. Lease the 2019 rx 350 for 399 month for 36 months. Experience amazing at your lexus dealer. Has been excellent. They really appreciate the military family and it really shows. With all that usaa offers why go with anybody else . We know their rates are good, we know that theyre always going to take care of us. It was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. It was funny because when we would call another insurance company, hey would say Oh We Cant Beat Usaa were the webber family. Were the tenneys were the hayles, and were usaa members for life. Get your usaa Auto Insurance quote today. When crabe stronger. Strong, with new nicorette coated ice mint. Layered with flavor. Its the first and only coated nicotine lozenge. For an amazing taste. That outlasts your craving. New nicorette ice mint. Kickstart My Heart by motley crue truck honks Wheels Screeching clapping sound of can hitting bag and bowl clapping always there in crunch time. Iand i dont add up the years. But what i do count on. Is staying happy and healthy. So, i add protein, vitamins and minerals to my diet with boost®. Boost® high protein nutritional drink has 20 grams of protein, along with 26 Essential Vitamins and minerals your body needs. All with guaranteed great taste. And now try new boost® peaches and creme natural flavor. With 27 vitamins and minerals and 10 grams of protein. Boost®. Be up for life™. Instateoftheartn Technology Makes it brilliant. The visionary lexus nx. Lease the 2019 nx 300 for 359 month for 36 months. Experience amazing at your lexus dealer. Welcome back. Before we get to the democrats, we wanted to show you one more moment from my sit down with President Trump. Administrations have long aligned themselves with saudi arabia. But in the view of crimes by the saudis, i asked why hes approved more arms sales. They buy massive amounts, 150 billion worth of Military Ekwamt that we use. We use their Military Ekwamt. And unlike other countries that Dont Have Money and we have subsidize things. It makes you over look their bad behavior . I dont like anybodys bad behavior. Theyd like the United States to order the will you allow the fbi to do that . I think its been heavily investigated. By who . Everybody. Heres where i am . You ready . Irans killed many people a day. Other countries in the middle east, this is a hostile place, a vicious, hostile place. If youre going to look at soud a arabia, look at iran and other countries i wont mention names and look a at whats happening and outside the middle east and look at whats happening with countries. And i say they spend 400 to 450 billion over a period of time, all money, all jobs. Buying equipment. We dont want to do business with them and if they do business, we make the best equipment but they will buy great ekwamt from russia and china. I have an idea of what the first big challenge is. Not just for joe biden but a lot of the Democratic Candidates in the top tear and that is confronting the issue of race, appealing to africanamerican voters and answering for past discretions. Joe biden and working with segregationists. Heres a bunch of his rivals rip under to him. Individuals hes speaking of with such aderation and thats still not working for so many millions of people. As a black man i know the legacy of this language and how it still hurts and harms. Joe biden went on al sharptons show to try to reexplain. It hurts when you talk about boy. It means Something Different to us. It does. It hurts when you call a racist like the normal life. Who the heck remembers Jim Ease Lynn that will find that a good
reference . And i think when youre the Opposition Party candidate, you ought to be the candidate of change and freshness and thats not freshness or change. Hes not where the party energy is. It may be enough to get him a nomination but not the activist basis. I think the thing that struck me is biden handled it in a very trumpian way. Im not apologizing. And i think whoever wins this nomination will be going up against a president who does not apologize typically. Every once in a while. And if the democrats right now, of course, theyre sort of tearing each other apart, but if at the end of the day they apologized for various things, does that in fact leave the eventual nominee . Im starting to buy into the comparison is joe biden the mitt romney of 20 . Meaning where you have a base of the party, a base of the party that wanted Something Else but he was considered, well, thats
your best shot at getting it. The base of the Democratic Party wants Something Else but theres this idea joe biden is your best shot. I think arguably mitt romney was a little closer in terms of having been having governed and a closer record to when he ran for president. The problem is the separation with so much of his political record, because, yes, hes Vice President but people dont account for that. They think about it from the 1970s. That separation is huge. If you think the democrats are attacking biden now, you just wait. In a political primary where they agree on 90 of policy, it will be all about drawing distinctions. You will see it on the debates on nbc. The way theyre going after him well done. Thank you. If you think this is bad now, just wait. He is the person in the way of the ambitions of a whole bunch of the other candidates who will be on the stage on
wednesday and thursday. I think that biden probably has to get used to the idea that maybe starting out in subtle ways and then tougher ways, a lot of people will try to make him a pinata. And hes got to be able to handle that and you dont handle it by bringing up 50yearold references to senators who made your party look very bad, and whose name reminds you of their bad history in that area. The question though is who had the worst week in the democratic primary . Is it joe biden or he Pete Buttigieg . Is getting tested now in the crisis in south bend, a white Police Officer kills a black citizen of south bend. Hes been there most of the weekend dealing with protesters and really being read the riot act. Heres a quick excerpt. Me if b lives matter . Yes. We want to hear you say it. Of course, black lives
matter. Then fire your cops welcome to the nfl. This is a big test. Pete buttigieg, is he ready for the National Stage in his own city . This to me is a big test for him. Its a big test. Unlike former Vice President biden, he doesnt have a longestablished relationship with the africanamerican community. He didnt work on civil rights. And hes really just starting to introduce himself to american voters. Right now that was taking place in south bepnd. To what extent will it resonate . Clearly a topic of the debates. What he did was he was smart, he went off the campaign trail, he went back home and dealt with people in his own community facetoface. The question is, did he do a good enough job . Were getting skrut fli here. Politico said the Police Department hasnt gotten more diverse, its gotten more white. When you look at miami, new york, l. A. , all of them realize the one big thing they had to change was diversifying their police force. Youre sitting there going, 2012 and this hasnt happened in south bend . Pete buttigieg has done very well up until now off a really good presentation on television. He presents himself really well. Well start looking at his actual record. Hes running a city of before 100,000 people. Its not been scrutinized up until now. This is going to bring that home. Youre right, he goes there, he confronts the issue headon. I think that obviously helps him in a sense. Youre right. The record is going to come back and haunt him a little bit. Bad week to have a bad week. Beyond the record, theres also a thin skinness about his response that will not wear well on the campaign trail. He had never shown that before. Right, right. Theres this one moment when you read it, it looks terrible. He didnt mean it the way it came across. I dont want your vote. I am not playing politics. It came across. A horrible exchange for him. I was in south bend recently. I got the impression talking to a lot of people that they approved of him as mayor, but they thought he had some problems. One thing is, this is the sort of cool and technocratic fellow. Interesting. Yeah, doesnt always translate higher. Fabulous way to describe him. Not always a compliment. I want to show you one final moment with my interview with President Trump. It happened in the oval office. Where we also got a surprise visit from mike pence. When i asked the president something about his legacy. Have you thought about a president ial library . I am so busy, i know a lot of people mentioned it to me, the president ial library. Yeah. Im so busy do you know where yet youd want it . I have a lot of locations, actually. I know you do. The best part, i dont have to worry about buying a location. Would you want it at one of your properties . Ive been treated so great in florida. You know, ive been treated great in so many states i take it youd want your
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