Protests have continued since we all learned the news monday night for which we have been waiting for more than 100 days. The st. Louis county grand jury decided not to indict officer Darren Wilson for sohooting and killing Michael Brown. In a rambling half hour speech delivered well past night fall, prosecutor Bob Mcculloch said theres no doubt he shot Michael Brown to death. Theres no question when he died Michael Brown was unarmed. But mcculloch intimated there were many more questions. Questions that only the grand jury has the privilege offed a jute kating because only they had seen all the evidence and heard all the testimony, and they, he told us, decided there was no crime in this killing. Nothing for which to indict officer wilson. Yes, Michael Brown is dead, but that is not, they decided, a criminal act. And what father or mothered was pain. And what followed was pain, disbelief, grief, fury, protests. How could this boy be dead, but the man who shot him would not have to face a criminal charge, an open trial, a jury, a verdict . For no one was this anguish more acute and personal than for Michael Browns parents, and through that pain they continued to pursue one very specific effort with fierce determination. We need to Work Together to fix the system that allowed this to happen, they wrote. Join with us in our campaign to ensure that every Police Officer working the streets in this country wears a body camera. Michael brown might still have been killed by officer wilson, even if wilson had been wearing such a camera. But if he were wearing that camera, then there would also be a recording of wilsons stop of brown, of their interactions, and of wilsons ultimate decision to fire repeatedly at brown until he was dead. And that video would have been seen by the grand jury. Instead, this week the story came first from the prosecutor who told us the grand jurys decision and then from the full testimony of officer wilson, which was released to the public, and then from wilson himself. Who had the chance to tell his story to abc news. You say he starts to run, starts to come towards you. And and that time i gave myself another mental check. Can i shoot this guy . You know, legally, can i . And the question i answered myself was i have to. If i dont, he will kill me if he gets to me. If he gets to me i will not survive. Even though hes 35, 40 feet away . Once hes coming that direction, if he hasnt stopped yet, when is he going to stop . That is wilsons account. We cannot mear from Michael Brown. Many witnesses gave their accounts to the grand jury, but without video of the encounter between wilson and brean, well simply never have Michael Browns side of the story. Back in july we were able to witness for auourselves a woman being brutally beaten by a patrolman on an interstate near los angeles. The same month we were able to see the new york Police Chokehold in which the citys medical examiner says took the life of eric garner in staten island. We saw what happened to lavar jones in september, when he was shot by a now former South Carolina state trooper who asked lavar to produce his drivers license. Thats what lavar is reaching for in this video. We saw how police entered a wall mat in southern ohio and shot 22yearold John Crawford iii to death. Crawford was in the store carrying an air rifle that shoots pellets and bbs. Ohio is an open carry state. Now theres another Police Shooting in ohio, which we can see. One week ago today 12yearold tamir rice was shot by 26yearold cleveland Police Officer timothy lowman. He died the following day at the hospital. He was a passenger in the car responding at 3 30 p. M. Last saturday, november 22nd, to a 911 call from a man at an Outdoor Recreation center on clevelands west side. Complaining about a guy with a gunpointing it at people. This is the gun rice allegedly had on him. A bb gun, not a real one. The caller told dispatchers the gun was quote, probably fake, but detail was not relaid to the responding officers. Video released wednesday by Cleveland Police shows rice displaying the pellet gun in the the park. It also shows the moment at which Police Arrive and rice was shot. As you can see in the jarring realtime video, that was virtually the same moment. We see rice standing beneath the gazebo in the rec center alone. Suddenly the police car arrives on the scene in front of the boy. In about two seconds, its over. Rice is shot by the officer and doubles over. Why did this happen . In an initial statement following the shooting, a Cleveland Police spokesperson said, quote, upon arrival on the scene, officers located the suspect and advised him to raise his hands. The suspect did not comply with officers orders and reached to his waistband for r the gun. Shots were fired and the suspect was shot in the torso. The Cleveland Deputy police chief at wednesdays press conference said rice was given three warnings to raise his hands. After that event races family called for an investigation in the statement that read it is our belief that this situation could have been avoided and that tamir should still be here with us. The video shows one thing distinctly, the Police Officers reacted quickly. Indeed, the video does show that quite distinctly. Joining me now here at the table are khalil mohammed, chloe angel, senior columnist at feministing. And ray is an attorney and msnbc news contributor and associate professor at the the university of pennsylvania. And joining me from cleveland is ohio state senator nina turner, a native of the city of cleveland. Thest nice to have you this morning, although im sorry its under these circumstances. Now we have video of the shooting, but we dont have video of the time period, the nearly four minutes when cleveland if pishls say the officers waited to give tamir rice first aid. We see in the case of eric garner that not being given proper medical assistance can make the difference. I am wondering what you know about those four minutes. What people are talking about in the video that we didnt see. Yeah, melissa, this is gut wrenchingly tragic. You know, every fiber of my being, every time i hear about this video, watch this video, hear people talk about it, you are just consumed with emotion. And certainly our hearts go out to the family of young tamir rice, who was a 12yearold boy. According to reports, there was an fbi agent nearby on another call who came and started cpr on young mr. Rice. But the two officers on the scene for whatever reason, and it doesnt make sense, and thats why we must let the investigation go guard, they did not do anything to try to save his life, unfortunately. So state senator, this is a moment, as you point out, this video makes me physically ill to watch. And we talked about how we felt about playing it. But we have Michael Browns parents saying we need bombbody cameras. We have to have these videos. What difference do you think it makes for us to be able to see this . To have this as the testimony . This is truth. Yo see it and you cannot deny what happened. And what is it about seeing a black male that drives people crazy . To do things extreme in that way . The video doesnt lie. Tamir did not have a chance, even if he wanted to. Im not sure he knew what was going on at the time. You see a young 12yearold boy just playing. In his mind im sure he did not know that what he was doing would have caused you know, that kind of tragedy to occur. We must have National Commission on policing and a lot of experts, one in particular believes we need a National Commission on policing, similar to the report that president lyndon b. Johnson commissioneded in the 1950s. We have unfinisheded business bigger than whats happening all across this nation. We must look at this nationally and do something about it. It must be visible. It must be right now. You foe, part of this thats tough is the phone call thats made. I want to listen to a part of the 911 phone call and what was said. Lets just take a moment and listen to it. Im sitting in the park at West Boulevard by the West Boulevard rapid transfer station. And theres a guy holding a pistol, you know. The guy keeps pulling it out of his pants and hes scaring everybody. I listen to that. This sounds like a good samaritan. We dont know the wol story yet. But it sounds like hes making a reasonable call and saying, its probably fake. But that message was not given to the police. You know, maybe they would have responded differently. We need more training and transparency. We need cultural competency. This deserves a moral response. The cries of the people across this nation from ferguson to beaver creek to cleveland to new york to los angeles, this deserves a moral response. From the the president to governors mansions to legislatures all across this country to answer this. This is not just one person. This is a little boy. It pains me when people try to paint africanamerican males as more criminal and more violent. We know it elicits a certain type of response. This is unfair. It still has to be bore by africanamerican and latino men in particular across the country. We have to do something about this right now. Thank you, state senator nina turner on a holiday when so many of us had beautiful africanamerican boys and girls sitting at our tables, this was a tough one. I appreciate you joining us from cleveland, ohio, this morning. 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Louis, where people protesting the grand jury decision in the Michael Brown case temporarily closed one of the areas most popular Shopping Malls. The st. Louis galleria. The protesters numbered more than 100, chanting black lives matter, and stop dont shoot and urging shoppers to skip shopping to show solidarity. This has been central to the protesters, but i want to level it as a question. Do black lives matter . Theres a fascinating statement that says how interesting we have moved from black power to black lives matter. The diminishing of the social moov movement to help make possible a black president has become how do we save people . About the bare minimum common decency statement black lives matter. And i figured i would leave it for the table. Of course as soon as theres outrage in communities over the shooting death and then nonindictment of officer wilson the next point tends to be, well, what about all of the black men and boys killed by other black men and boys . I mean, i feel like we cant not talk about the fact that that is this kind of open critique that sits out there. Yeah, but its a really challenging response where he says theres not a house in the country. Meaning the ritual of black death or the violence committed against black bodies that is both state sanctioned. Right . Police officers or you have individuals, as in the case with trey son martin, individual citizens who feel complete power to kill black people as they see them, if theres no real threat. She was asking for help. What does it mean from the very beginning . That was predicated on black lives not mattering, or mattering only in the service of property or service of maintaining the power of white slave holding society. So its a founding principle. The fact that black people have been denied humanity as a part of the democratic experience. Its not just shocking, but its true. But now were at another moment where that same principle is resurfacing. We have to deal with it as a nation. And i feel like we saw part of that sense of that kind of foundational element and that question about whether or not black lives matter occur in the context how the prosecutor made the decision to seek or not seek indictment. Youve written about it, claiming its almost farcical, this discourse that this is more fair, more democratic, and this grand jury just made a decision not to diindict. Whatever you think of the whole process, he opened himself up to all the charges of impartiality, first of all, by not stepping aside. And in a sense, he put it all on the the grand jury to escape accountability, and the way weve heard so much about the way he conducted that whole procedure. It was anything but by the book. And at the very least, you know, i tell people when you talk to attorneys about a particularly a legal case. P if you talk to 50 lawyers, they all have their own opinion about how this is done. And with the nation watching, he would go by a standard a, b, c, d procedure. Everything about this was unprecedented. Its left so many people outraged and dissatisfied. Either one of you want to weigh in on this. Part of what i found stunning here is weve known that this sort of thing happened in literally the kind of dark of night, right . When there wasnt Media Attention and International Focus that the deaths of young black men went unpunished. Particularly at the hands of Police Officers. But there was a sense of like, this is not meant to be the dark of night. This is everybody is now literally everyone is watching and seeing results. An thab maybe the hardest. What so so to your point about the immediate conversation about black on black violence, what i think is so interesting is a white man committed an act of violence against a black man and immediately its about black masculinity. We would not be at this table have this conversation were it not for hundreds of years of an entrenched idea about the white masculine responsibility to police and particularly to protect white womanhood. Thats been absent from the conversation and it shouldnt be. If you dont believe it, i need to quote officer wilson so people dont think were making this up. In his full testimony which was released to the public, he says at this point, it looks like he, speaking about Michael Brown, was bulking up to run through the shots, like it was making him mad that i was shooting at him. So i have a couple of things to add to this. So one t idea that black people have disproportionate rates of violent criminal activity has been the longest running script in history. At the end of slavery from the very begin ining that we could strak statistically. But litly from the beginning of freedom. Why people discovered black people were more violent than they are. A use of power swelgs the fact that when black people defended themselves against white violence, they were either murdered, lynched or charged with a Violent Crime. If we want to say that the evidence ov black criminal statistics proves black people are to blame for the victimization in terms of state violence, that would be true since the jim crowe period, we cant have it both ways. We cant say thatst a period marked by the lynching era where Police Officers were not fair. Where the criminal Justice System was stacked against black people in spite of the higher rates of Violent Crime. And all the sudden were in racial anywhere van na. Stick with me. One last thought on this. Not only did officer wilson say Michael Brown bulked up in the context of being shot, but i also want to remind you what he said about how he looked when we come back. It sounds like you dont think you were responsible. I did my job that day. Do you feel any remorse . Everyone feels remorse when a life is lost. Like i told you before, i never wanted to take anybodys life. You know, thats not the good part of the job. Thats the bad part of the job. So yes, there is remorse. That was ferguson Police OfficerDarren Wilson on abc news on tuesday. When you read the entire testimony that was released by the prosecutor, part of what wilson says about the encounter is and then after he did that, he being Michael Brown here, he looked up at me and had the most intense aggressive face. The only way i can describe it, it looks like a demon. Thats how angry he looked. So i grew up playing firstperson shooters. So you are playing against demonic superville lons and a visual catalog of weaponry. And back to super boou super do. What hes evoking goes back to the days of a theme thats a super predator who cannot be put down. Or the mexican immigrant high on marijuana and is strong as a horse. The metaphors are so violent that we have to resort to extreme means, even killing a 12yearold who cant be put down by a set of simple instructions. It also goes to then so many people who are trying to indicate why this is a problem have to take the demon and turn it into and angel. And then you have to be perfect. You must be a child. Rather that saying no, no, no, this is a problem even if there was a Conven