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Out to africanamericans with the the speech at the National Urban league. Well get the urban leagues president thoughts. And the oldest leaving female vet will be ouagadougou. Witnesses say five explosions tore through this u. N. Run school in northern gaza. The playground with shells. Soaked in blood. They thought they were safe here. These days nowhere is safe in gaza. The hospital was overwhelmed. Most of the casualties are children and women. You want to tell me that netanyahu mailed the responsible thing . Are deaths a responsible thing . Thins incident sparked anger among palestinians. Air algerie. Because of a storm. The israeli airport u. S. Airlines are starting to fly in tel aviv. This decision by the faa, was this a political decision . We have not just done this on politics but the facts and everything else. The European Union is to have 33 new and unreasonable and counter productive. Weve seen europe move with us. Not always as fast as wed like, but they get there. Russia appears to move one step closer towards allout war. Its that putin may actually light a fire that he loses control of. A lot going on. Good morning. Its friday, july 25th. Its supposed to be summer. Sort of, like, slow . Not at all. Mark alperin is with us. Chairman of deutsch incorporated, donny deutsch. Dont want to see that. See, that doesnt work, donny. What did i do . Everybodys eyes hurt. Your jacket is skiing out. Look, youre keying out. And in washington, lets quickly get off donny. Pulitzer prize winning columnist of tthe Washington Post and Eugene Robinson, looking handsome. Hi, willie. Good morning. And unspeakable news out of gaza and cover the latest plane crash, air algerie. Weird question for all of you, start off, though. Donny, you have daughters . Three daughters. Willie, yeah. Yes. Good. So what would you do if you went to your doorstep in the morning and you found a porcelain doll there, just sitting there, that looked exactly like your daughter . I would get kind of creeped out. Youd get creeped out . Would you do something . Would i do something . Yeah. Im ignorant. Its a surprise doll. That looked just like your daughter. Surprise doll . Curly hair, just like your daughter. Do you have a picture . Yeah. These doll, all that look like little girls that lived at the houses showed up on doorsteps. Would that freak you out . That would freak me out. Gene . Definitely freak me out. Thats weird. Thats, like, in chucky territory. Right . So what is there a point to this . Theres a point, ah ah ah, well get to that. It actually happened. That actually happened, all over a town, and well explain what happened. Okay. I just one other thing i want to get to, though, because i have you here, donny, we dont actually have to show him again, can just hear from him. Take, maybe, your jacket off. This gm story, the recalls have really hurt gm. A report now. Their profits. In the second quarter, one quarter, 85 down. Thats a staggering fall. After taxes, the troubled car parts will have cost the company 1. 5 billion, and gm just outlined six new recalls affecting roughly 800,000 vehicles. They keep coming. Theyve looked under the hood, so to speak. Mika, the irony, their profits, their sales are up. What . Their sales are not hurting. I think u. S. Consumers have become so anesthetized to corporate blunders and problems, okay, this was 2004. Of course, profits are down 85 . The housekeeping they have to do, to put it nicely, but as far as people going to the showrooms, ironically, theyre not stopping. Yeah. Front business section of the times, talking how these big suvs, the sales are so high, as donny says, sales are actually up, but the profits are down, because theyve taken such a chunk from all of these recalls. So im happy for the company, jobs that stay, but how is it possible . I would think that people would let me ask you a question right now. Okay. If you want to go buy an escalade. By the way, my wife, my kids my kids mom, this jacket is throwing me off. Drives them in an escalade and for a reason i wouldnt think twice a speck model, that year, recalled, but i think consumer, savvy enough to understand that a car produced in 2013, its a different model, although it comes from the same corporation, does not necessarily come from the same place. Its stunning. By the way, toyota. Right. Horrible incident, with the false start. I dont know if weve become used to it, i dont know if thats the good or bad news there. Even with the news, the company is surrive and thrive . They will. They will . Wow. And a lot of sales are overseas, too, mika. They have a huge chunk of the china market, gm does. The big news. Morning. Its daylight in mauli, we expect to get the first pictures of that air algerie plane that disappeared. 110 passengers, and six crew, killed in the crash over the conflict zone yesterday. Right now the cause is unknown, but Officials Say the pilots did send a final message asking for a change in route because of heavy rain. France, which has been helping mauli fight Al Qaedalinked rebels is now helping with the crash investigation. French president hollande said one black box was found amongst the wreckage. Five from canada, media reports four from the same family. A mother, a father and their two children. There were no americans onboard, but with a third air disaster in just a week, u. S. Officials are rushing to reassure the public that flying is still safe. Heres nbcs tom costello. Reporter its been a rough six months for international aviation, all told, nearly 600 people have died. Now another crash. Air algerie flight 5017, an md83 flown by swift air left africa with 116 onboard but crashed 50 minutes later in bad weather. Like ukraine, northern maul mali is a war zone. Citing the risk of antiaircraft fire to include shoulderfired, man portable air defense systems. Its not clear what happened to flight 5017 but its the latest in a strings incidents. A fatal passenger plane dplash taiwan wednesday with 48 dead. U. S. Flights temporarily suspended into tel aviv. The shootdown of Malaysia Flight 17 over ukraine. Malaysia flight 370 remains missing off the coast of australia presumably. The fact weve had a cluster of incidents does not materially affect the fact our skies and the skies around the world are safe. Reporter the faa lists 63 countries including cuba, yemen, north korea and pakistan, where u. S. Airlines are prohibited from flying or subject to flight restrictions and warnings. The secretary of transportation as the situation on the ground changes, in some of these parts of the world, our guidance perhaps will change. Reporter in fact, the chances are very good your flight will land safely. According to an m. I. T. Statistician, your chances are being killed in a plane crash anywhere in the world are roughly 1 in 4 million, but in north america and europe, that drops to 1 in 25 million. That means you could go 60,000 years flying every day before a fatal crash. The last fatal accident involving a u. S. Carrier was in buffalo when 50 people died. That was in 2009. In this industry, anybodys accident is everybodys accident, and when theres a mishap, when something goes wrong, the industry works together to figure out why to keep it from happening again. And that was tom costello reporting. There is new hope this morning there could be a shortterm deal to end the crisis in the middle east after the deadliest day of violence between israel and hamas. We keep saying that every day, and every day it gets worse. Secretary of state john kerry is waiting to hear back from both sides about a oneweek ceasefire proposal. The plan would let Israeli Defense forces remain in gaza as israel and hamas try to reach a longterm deal. The possible progress comes after an attack on a u. N. School in gaza. That left at least 15 civilians dead, including 3 children. About 200 more people are injured. Palestinian Officials Say israeli tank shells are to blame. Israel says hamas rockets could be responsible but did not rule out accidentally striking the facility. Tragically, the school was serving as a shelter for those trying to escape the violence. These are people who have taken shelter in a u. N. Designated area. The warring parties, particularly the israeli, were given the precise gps coordinates. That he knew exactly what was going on there and in spite of that this has happened. We again say, enough civilians, enough women, enough children. They have suffered quite enough in this appalling conflict. The ongoing bloodshed led to large protests in the west Bank Including clashes between Israeli Soldiers an thousands of palestinians at a military checkpoint. Officials say one palestinian was killed. Hundreds were hurt. Hurly journalists say one of the biggest protests in recent memory. A total of at least 119 palestinians were killed yesterday. Palestinian Officials Say that brings the overall death toll to more than 800. On the israeli side, 32 soldiers have died as well as 3 civilians. Eugene robinson, its almost as if one would be afraid to watch the news following this story. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Its its, it just seems to get worse and worse and worse, and this outbreak of protests in the west bank, on the opposite side of israel, you know, at the end of this, and there will be an end of this. This is not just a regular israeli mowing the grass in gaza. I mean, this turned into a pretty major war, but it will have an end, and at the end, you know, depressingly, i think were just generating another generation of war. You know, another generation of martyrs and another generation of resentment and, and frankly hatred. Its just incredible. Donny . Depressing. Hey, gene, you wrote a fascinating piece in the post as far as about israels moral compass and that obviously youre proisrael and israel has to defend itself, but there are lines. I guess the question is, and as we all watch that as human beings, as a parent, your heart breaks. You go, okay. Theres 2,200 rockets launched into israel, and obviously israel strikes back. How do you draw a firm line, firm lines, as far as more the morality is . And the answer is, you cant draw firm lines, because everybodys firm line i think, would be a bit different. I think you have to look at you have to look at the situation. You have to try to look at proportionality and realize that, you know, a civilized nation that does not respond to every heinous act in kind. Thats just not what were about. Thats not what israel is about, and and, you know, so what is the whats kind of the moral cost benefit of, of a given strike or a given operation . And you know, i think frankly this has gone too far. Its gone over to the negative side. I think it becomes counter productive. Especially given that, yes, all of those rockets are being fired at israel, but you know what . Theyre all being deflected and shot down by the iron dome system, which is kind of changed the security situation in israel, at least in terms of the rockets. The tunnels are a different story. The tunnels are something new. And you know, we do have to learn more about that, because apparently there are a lot more tunnels being dug than the israelis even knew about. They hadnt really been used yet, and so its kind of unclear exactly what thats about, but the rockets are n not you know, the situation not what it was five years ago. Lets go to gaza. Nbc news Foreign Correspondent ayman mohaldene, there since the beginning of the conflict. What more can you tell us about the blast at the u. N. School that killed 16 people . What happened there . Reporter well i wish i could play for you guys the sound happening behind us now. A juxtaposition of what life has become like in gaza. Hearing on one hand the sound of fridays prayers and juxtaposed pierced by the sound of artillery shelling every few seconds. Been like that the past half hour. In terms of what happened at the u. N. School, there are two narratives coming out of this. One from the United Nations, one from the Israeli Military. The United Nations says its gps kward nantz were given to the idf, they say they dont necessarily have any hard eford that this was a direct israeli shell. They say all the indications are that it was an israeli shelling, because it was one of several in the area coming from the direction of the Israeli Military. In addition to that, theyre calling for a full investigation, but theyre also citing something thats very important saying this is now the third school that has been hit by the israelis, saying the other two schools, they dont have any doubt it was the israeli shells and, in fact, found and inert israeli bomb in one of those schools. Clearly marked it was from the israeli side. So for them, they have in their eyes, the evidence they need to believe it was israeli. They are calling for a full investigation. The Israeli Military is saying something completely different. They are starting to show they could have possibly made a mistake. In fact a spokesperson said, yes, we were firing mortars in that area. Its possible one of our mortars landed in the school. But at the same time i think we just lost him. Well get back to him in a moment. Im wondering about john kerry we are talking about a line that has been crossed with pictures after pictures after pictures of children being killed and children being wounded and children losing their family members. Genes article, its got a picture of this child at the hospital whos just obviously lost her family or friends. Just screaming in agony. There is a difference here. Is there not . What are kerrys options when youre dealing with people responsible in one way or another for scenes like this . Well, the human tragedy, its horrible, but not to get too mad about this, but i think gene represents a turn in the last 24 hours you see in the miya and Opinion Pieces and News Coverage of people saying, its gone too far and israelis are keen observers of American Media and recognize world and u. S. Opinion matter a lot here but theyre not done with military operation and i think what secretary kerry is up against in the private conversations between Prime Minister netanyahu and american officials are very tough, what theyre up against, they want a ceasefire and the israelis are not done. They think their military operation is particularly in the tunnels needs to continue. The big question to me, how long . I dont think theyll agree to a ceasefire unless theyre done and theyre not done. And the other thick ing is, not sure hamas is done either. Because hamas was in deep political trouble, right . Its patron the government of egypt is gone now. Theres a government there that doesnt like hamas. So, you know, and theyre getting more popular. Theyll get more support among palestinians for standing up to israel. The president , gave an exclusive interview on cnbc. Firing back, political reez ens, you heard it from some members of congress, the faa ban on u. S. Flights into israel. The initial ban that was imposed by the faa was based on israel needing to show us that, in fact, it was safe for commercial airlines to fly in. By the way you the european governme governments in terms of regulating their allianz did the exact same thing. So i think what happened here was in light of some scary moments a couple of days ago, the faa took some prudent action. Criticism came from senator ted cruz as probably the most vocal critic saying this was a way, essentially, to put some sanction on israel for what its doing. I can officially say, croods is a bliterating idiot. To suggest in any way, shape or form this was done at economic sanctions against israel is a level of idiotism i havent seen from republicans. This may push the elections coming up back towards the democrats. A blistering criticism for the white house. Still ahead on morning joe, former secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff with his thoughts on his questions over the Global National security fight. Theres michael cherchertoff bring the dolls back, our little mystery. Is this a little doll story, i hope . I just want to know what you would do if dolls like that showed up on your front doorstep and they looked exactly like your daughter. Plus something happened on the way to the 2008 election. Because theres so much more to do. The franchise is under siege, both civil rights and economic rights and the aftermath of the great recession. Joining us from the site of this years National Urban league conference. And later from the talents of this 6yearold dont impress you im not sure what oh, my god. That looks like it hurts. His quest for the guinness book of World Records, in news you cant and the doll story. Its freaky. Freaky. Speaking of freaky, lets go to bill karins with a check on the forecast. That story is cute. The dolls we do not need to show. Go back to like the chucky, the poll ttergeistpoltergeist. No trespassing and other signs to scare people away. Well explain very soon. I know. Its creepy, though. Good morning, everyone. East coast, the northeast, getting ready for our eighth, ninth, tenth, maybe great weekend in a row, but yesterday morning, just about this time, 8 30 a. M. In the morning, in virginia of all places, coastal virginia, a tornado happened. It was a random tornado way thunderstorm that went through. And unfortunately, it killed two people. Just over the chesapeake bay. This was the radar from it. It wasnt much. It wasnt even a big advertisement for severe weather. Just goes to show you even at 8 30 in the morning, you have to take these thunderstorms seriously. A couple was killed trying to hide out from the thunderstorm in a tent. 20 other people were injured in that storm. What are we dealing with right no . In minneapolis, a lot of you up early this morning. These thunderstorms are rolling through town crossing through minneapolis and going into areas around saint paul nopt sevet se. Give yourself a half hour and continue with your morning routine. Storms later around chicago, indianapolis and over the weekend, if we have one stormy spot, indiana looks to be it. Severe weather, damaging wind, possibility of flooding, maybe your afternoon plans are rain the out saturday and sunday right there are in the ohio valley. Hot, too, throughout much of the inner mountain west. Next week, looks like another polar invasion. Pola

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