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MSNBCW Morning Joe January 29, 2015 11:00:00

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Look at this. Seriously, come on. I got to point out one thing. Richard haass, foreign relations, is ready for the storm thats on its way. Check out the timberland boots. Is he rugged . With the gray suit. Blizzard passed. Willie did you see that cher is this is going to be a shock, but cher is not a Chris Christie fan. I didnt know that. Her latest attack. I love ron fortniers response though. What is this . Okay. Cher is what are you doing . The cher primary. In other news dawn breaks. What did she say . You look at her there. You know she knows geopolitical subtlety subtleties. The grammy winner tweeted, its more than obnoxious. Is there a more obnoxious man in the usa than the governor of new jersey. Chris, sit down and shut up. Christie is a malicious bully, not president ial material. So goes cher. Lets go to our top news. Yeah because thats not it. Im not sure why you did that. No i just i actually did it i actually i liked what happened as far as like ron fourniers response. Lets go to south kaur care quickly because last night the South Carolina polls came out. Last night you had mitt romney and hes down in mississippi, right . Yeah. And people are still saying still knocking this guy. Well wait whats he doing . Eded like a campaign day if i ever saw one. Eating barbecue with the people shaking hands. This guy is running. And hes attacking Hillary Clinton. There you go. He is in full campaign mode. Now there you go. And ive been saying for some time, kids are asking me what do you think about mitt romney . Hey, kids listen okay everybody hates mitt romney. The republican establishment, nobody wants him to run in the party except for the people who vote in primaries. And every time i say that a new poll comes out in an early critical state that has him in first place. The newest poll shows him out front of jeb bush and Governor Scott walker among Republican Voters in South Carolina. Romney lost the Prime Minister there in 1912 to Newt Gingrich. This is in iowa. Hes way ahead in iowa. And then you go to New Hampshire. You got to go back to november. But even there, you know you have mitt romney up. And i just want to know willie geist, if this guy is in first place in every single important state, who expects him to go i know jebs people are launching a lot of stuff and like trying to kneecap him and everything. But seriously. Who expects a guy who is in first place in iowa who is in first place in New Hampshire, who is in first place in South Carolina to just quit. All the little guys below all of them that are chattering, he sucks, he sucks, he sucks. Let us run this time. Hes no good. He sucks. You know . Guess what. What . Hes in first place. Oh, my god. And robert gibbs, im sorry, somebody pulling 3 or 4 should not be talking about how mitt romney is illqualified to run again because hes still in first place. He is in first place. I think if you look at some of the polls who in South Carolina is supposed to know who scott walker is right now anyway. Look. I think this is about were probably a tenth of a mile into a marathon. Sure hes in first place. This is why you have to decide whether youre going to run the rest of the marathon or not. Absolutely. But the question isnt i mean you know you dont get much of a medal for finishing fifth or fourth or third in this marathon. Robert, i dont think im im not articulating myself very well which, of course is par for the course. Im sure everybody watching morning joe today is not any different. The point im making today is the people who are telling mitt romney should not run for president all all run for president if they were in first mace place in iowa New Hampshire, and South Carolina in the early polls. My question is the state of the mind of mitt romney we are past a time where people can go its too early. No, this is going to shape the field, what happens in the next month. Why would mitt romney not run if hes in first place in all of these states and he wants to run . Look i think its pretty clear that mitt romney wants to run. Even if he didnt want to run a few months ago, whatever clicked in him in the last month and a half, whether it was others that got in whether it was just deciding that he wanted another shot because he hadnt been able to do this i dont think theres anything in these polls in these polls that is likely to stop him. The question look if i was a republican or a republican strategist i would have people ask, is there anything that mitt romney had to deal with in 2011 and 2012 that was a negative for him that hes done a lot or anything, quite frankly, to mitigate. I think republicans are going to, in this election take a longer view on electability. I think that is not going to be to a great benefit of mitt romney. But look i dont disagree with you that these numbers are certainly not going to cop vince him not to run. Casey hunt, youve been following this closely. Seems to me that mitt romneys out there planning on running and just making sure theres no reasons not to run. Hey, mika. Yeah a couple points on this. First, it seems like one of the things hes focused on is trying to present the authentic mitt romney. The speech that he gave in mississippi sounded a lot like one he gave last year at brigham young university in utah. It seems that were hearing from mitt romney the man. He wasnt yet a candidate. The question is whether or not he can successfully translate that across the campaign. Its more than just talking about it. I remember trying to getting a cess in 2012 to some of the more human sides of mitt romney. I actually went to church with them in New Hampshire. They werent thrilled to see me but it was one of the only glimpses that we got into this part of his life. And i think while a lot of reporters who covered him on the trail regularly recognized the guy in that mitt documentary on netflix, a lot of america didnt. Exactly. I think that the second point, too is you know on this idea of poverty and whether he can redefine himself as somebody not just for the rich, this isnt just, while we talk about the 47 , its not just that comment. There were hundreds of millions of dollars spent making sure that the American People thought this of mitt romney. Its going to take more to reverse that. I dont know how many times we want to watch that america the beautiful Cayman Islands ad again. I dont think its as simple as looking like you care and reaching out to people who node help and putting on some commercials and trying to show a softer side. Sam stein, i would say with mitt romney its got to be something bigger. Its got to be how our Economic Security, how lifting up the poor helps us on the world stage. Then he might be able to take some of his winning points over the last campaign and apply them to winning points of the next one. Yeah. A few points here. One is you know he clearly thinks that he has a platform to make another run. Im guessing i havent had any reporting on this that romney camps looks like 2012 and say we took the democrats best shot. We know what theyre going to do in 2016. Maybe the polls are inviting. The question is whether the polls are a ceiling or a floor. As for this whole rebranding of authentic mitt you know its possible obviously that this could work. But, you know im stuck on the fact that a lot of what people are talking about, mitt supporters are saying focus on poverty. Well change our focus here change our focus there. Thats just a communication strategy. It could very well be when the American Public vote in 2012 what they didnt like was his policy portfolio, not how he talked about his policy portfolio. What the mitt campaign probably has to do is articulate what specific policies he will now champion as opposed to 2012 that will alleviate poverty and help us on the world stage. With the caveat these polls are early and the numbers will all change we dont even know if all of those people are running. If youre running in the republican field, candidate x, which name on that list x, scares you the most and, b, which one has you licking your chops . Are you anxious to go after mitt romney if youre a democratic candidate . I think if you look at mitt romney, i know the winning playbook on this one. Its on the shelf. All i need to do is take it off and dust it off a little bit. I tend to believe that republicans are going to more likely nominate somebody from outside of washington. I think a governor like a scott walker who has had a good couple of weeks. I think Chris Christie will get a pretty solid look at this. I think somebody like a jeb bush. I think if they do go with somebody in washington i think clearly marco rubio has had a good few weeks. I think rand paul is somebody thats going to have to be dealt with throughout this process. So i think theres thats a small number. Look, the truth and reality is republicans have a remarkably deep bench this time. That might work against mitt romney. Last time he beat a very very weak field of basically herman kaine, Newt Gingrich and who is that other guy . Cant remember the third. Have all of you seen american sniper . Yes. Twice. Twice . Good stuff. Yeah. Liked it right . I well, as a movie, yeah. Yeah. What else was it . It wasnt such a good play. What the heck was that . As a story based of a character on a real person and a real book it doesnt accurately reflect the book nor the real character. Wow. Okay. I mean im just which part of it does it not accurately reflect. He makes me tired today. Hes talking to michael moore. The film depicting chris kyle which ayman has detailed issues with has already won over audiences in the u. S. Raking in more than 200 million since the release but its also reportedly thrilling audiences in baghdad. Some viewers got so into the film they began shouting out during the screening. The global post reported one moviegoer yelling shoot him. He has an ied, dont want dont wait for permission. He continued saying i love watching war movies because especially now they give me the strength to face the islamic state. The film only ran for one week at a popular upscale mall management ended the films run management ended the films run because of the controversy surrounding the killing of muslims. Willie . Doesnt sound like a terribly scientific study. One guy stood up and yelled. I actually read the nbc news story and it was the audience was yelling shoot him, shoot him, when the little kid when the little kid was walking towards him. Of course i thought it was so fascinating. We were sitting in the audience. What do you want to do . In baghdad, the nbc news story said the audience was yelling, shoot him, hes got an ied. Tells you something about the iraqi associate the. I thought it was fascinating. Interesting. Yeah. There have been enough people blown up by innocentlooking, you know discusssuspects. It was fascinating. Ayman . Go ahead. Go ahead. If. If you dont know the true story, it was a great movie. Tremendously entertaining. A lot of value. I want to hear what you think the value is. Its a story if you in fact as the director was saying a story about post Traumatic Stress disorder how they come home return to society is posed with a lot of problems and chal challenge challenges. From that perspective it is compelling and thoughtprovoking, emotional moving p. But . When you juxtapose it to the real chris kyle youre talking about the stories when he was back home in texas which may have not been true . A lot of his own personal opinions about what he was doing in iraq, how he viewed iraqis. Some people described as his racist ten racist tendencies when he was going on killing sprees in iraq on assignment. I think there are issues killing sprees . Chris kyle was going on killing sprees . When he was involved in his on assignments in terms of what he was doing. Right. A lot of the description that has come out from this book and some of the terminology that he has used people have described as racist. In his personal attitudes about what he was doing overseas when he was on assignment. I think a lot of guys when theyre in warfare might say things they shouldnt say. I know we said certainly quite a few things about the japanese and im sure the japanese said quite a few things about us. Listen. I didnt know the guy. I mean you know. I only know what i know through, you know Bradley Cooper and reading a lot of what that interaction goes. Yeah. War is ugly. I thought it was a powerful movie. I love the fact it had both theaters, what happened in iraq what happened at home. That was important. They showed him early on what happened on 9 11. And then he obviously went to iraq. It drew the link between what we did in iraq was a response to 9 11. I wish once in the movie one of his fellow soldiers basically said, hey, dont you know that iraq was not involved in 9 11 . And then he could have said yeah, but politics is for somebody else but i care about protecting myself, protecting you, the other guys in my unit. I just once someone had raised the connection about iraq and 9 11. It wasnt a commentary about the war. It wasnt about the politics of the war. It was a character study. It was such a good movie. You dont have to like him and the comments about him calling iraqis savages. He was calling the people he was shooting savages. He was calling people who he thought were going to kill his buddies savages. He didnt some people have seized on that term that he thought all iraqis or everyone in the middle east is a savage. Thats just not what he said. He was talking about the people he was fighting in the theater calling them savages. When we come back ayman is going to kick around santa claus. I understand no. First of all, im like you. I dont know you can hate santa claus if you want to. I think this is a fascinating conversation. I do too. Hes trying to cheapen it. What happens when young men are sent to war and are sent to kill and to fight the enemy and how do you not develop hatreds and confusion about people . I mean how can you completely label somebody when theyre put in a position like that . I think it takes a look at just how devastating that all can be on the brain. Yeah. So i think everybodys point is valid here. Thats why the movie is good. I think so too. It sparked a National Discussion into that it certainly is a good movie. Very good. The thing is it actually this movie has done well and we said it before has done so well because you finally have a character study of a guy who went off to war, who doesnt get painted as a beast or is some dark savage himself and hollywood has real trouble making those type of movies. Now, theyve made one now where theyre not ashamed to show that there were a lot of great men and women in iraq and afghanistan that were brave, that were proud, that sacrificed themselves not only for their buddies but for iraqi people. You know . Or how about men who go and come back completely changed. Yeah. Exactly. On the phone talking to his wife in the middle of a battle. That to me was the most powerful scene in the movie. Bringing those two worlds together. A lot of people think this was a rarah war film. I went to a screening at ft. Drum in new york here. And there was no screaming and cheering when he was killing people. It was interesting to watch. Active duty and vets sitting in a room watching this movie. They didnt stand up and say, yeah he shot that guy in the head from 2100 yards away. Harp watching it as reflection of what they had been through. When they saw him at home and struggling so hard with his family and to reintegrate into society. There were people crying, not cheering in that theater. Okay. The next segment is going to be equally moving. Miss universe. Paulina vega. Shes here . She will be here. And then model actress molly simms and beth stern. They will be mikas cohosts for the half hour. Im going to come back today. Willie is im actually free if you want to talk about politics. Put that back up because willie so willie you say youre going to come back. I think its ayman, too. I think its going to be fun. Miss colombia thats Foreign Policy. He set it up for a frightening way for paulina. Plus ve a an early look at super bowl ads that everybody is going to be talking about. 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