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It took Joel Silverman years to become a master dog trainer. It took Joel Silverman yea to become a master dog trainer. Technology designed for you. So you can easily master the way you bank. I am his great estefan. I dont think theres anything in the world he cant do. But as far as wanting it for him or liking it for him, i dont really see how any woman way down deep could say she wanted for the man that she loved because the the job is so tremendous and so awesome and so burdensome that you feel terribly sorry for any man republican or democrat holding the office. So when you say would i want it for him . Thats Something Else again. Nancy reagan there speaking in 1968 about the toll of running for president. We have a lot this morning on the life and legacy of the former first lady who passed away yesterday at the age of 94. Good morning. Its monday march 7. Joe is way under the weather but willie and i are joined by nicolle wallace, managing editor of Bloomberg Politics Mark Halperin and in nashville, tennessee, jon meacham. In boston, columnist in forBloomberg View, al hunt. We have a great deal to share about the life and legacy of nancy reagan. I want to go around the table, Mark Halperin whrksat are your greatest memories of nancy reagan . I dont know know her well but the last time i saw her was when she hosted an event at the library for me and John Heilemann for game change and hosted us for a dinner and her interest in people and america and politics was extraordinarily high. Nicolle, i heard you yesterday talking about just relish ago cool, classy, republican woman. We cherish our cool, classy, elegant style icons in the Republican Party and she certainly transcended all party lines and generations. She remains one of the most elegant women in the country. But for me it was the love affair and the image. We showed it yesterday over and over again of her draped over pra president reagans casket at the funeral. It wrenches me still. The book of love letters, in 2002, she published a collection of letters hed written to her. Theyre sprinkled through other documents, id seen them before, but to read them as a collection, their love affair knocks me over. There was a letter he wrote to her on christmas and he writes i miss you when you leave the room. And it was a love affair that i dont know that weve seen before in public life. Willie . Al hunt, theres the personal relationship, obviously, between nancy reagan and her husband but also the professional one and role she played as an honest to goodness advisor on the most important issues of his time, whether it was irancontra, rapprochement with gorbachev, firing important members of the staff. She had a real hand in what was happening in the west wing. She was one of the most influential first ladies in modern times. It began at the start of the reagan administration. It was nancy reagan who managed to persuade him to pick jim baker and mike deaver to run the white house rather than ed meese. That had a profound impact on the tone and the agenda of the reagan first term. Second term donald regan took over as white house chief of staff, he crossed swords with nancy reagan, big mistake. She got rid of him within a year or so. But the most substantive was she wanted ronnie, as she called him, to be a peacemaker and establish better ties with mikhail gorbachev. She worked with george schultz, there were probably scores of telephone conversations. My wife did a marvelous documentary for hbo which captured that. She played a huge role again in getting rid of bill clark. Just a final story ill tell you, willie. She never lost her interest in politics and as i said, my wife Judy Woodruff did a big documentary on her. They used to talk from time to time. And on a train in 2008, judy tried to call mrs. Reagan unsuccessfully. Mrs. Reagan called back after the Republican Convention, the first thing she said was why did john pick that woman as his running mate . Jon meacham, i heard she was fascinated with what was going on today. She obviously was married to a man who was vastly underestimated on many levels. Having said that, i wonder what she would think of the level of vitriol and where its descended to this point. She shared with her husbands view that there was an 11th commandment about not speaking ill of another republican. You see how thats obeyed. And republican Ronald Reagan used to believe if he could get 70 of what he wanted hed take it and go back for the other 30 later which is a spirit of compromise we dont see very much and i think something very much mrs. Reagan would have agreed with. Jimmy stewart is reported to have saided that if ronnie had married nancy the first time he would have won an academy award. So when they met in the late 40s, early 50s and married, that was a critical moment in Ronald Reagans political journey because she became the great breaux texter, the great enforcer in many ways. President reagan said he was at the lowest point, his career was not doing well, he was reduced to doing a nightclub act in las vegas and he said then came nancy davis and saved my soul. Well have more on their relationship and on her impact on the presidency later. We have a lot to say about nancy reagan. But over the weekend on the republican side there were fireworks and there was mud flying. Well get to that but first, willie, you have the democrats where it was also spicy. So much to talk about. Lets start with the democrats, they had a debate last night. Bernie sanders won another three states over the weekend. He won the democratic caucuses in maine with 64 of the vote up against 36 for secretary clinton. On saturday sanders also won nebraska and kansas. Hillary clinton, however, continues to dominate the delegate count. After winning louisiana on saturday, secretary clinton has 1,100 delegates and sanders has 492. Tomorrow there will be 188 delegates up for grabs in michigan and mississippi. According to a nbc news poll, clinton leads michigan primary voters. Last night, Hillary Clinton and sanders crashed over and over during the latest democratic debate held in flint, michigan, the site of the water crisis both candidates have been highlighting on the campaign trail. The two found Common Ground on that issue, but once the discussion moved to the topic of the economy, particularly International Trade, the knives came out. Were going to stop this kind of job exporting and were going to start importing and growing jobs again in our country. I am very glad, anderson, that secretary clinton has discovered religion on this issue. [ applause ] but its a little bit too late. Secretary clinton supported virtually every one of these disastrous trade agreements. Well, ill tell you Something Else that senator sanders was against. He was against the auto bailout. We just had the best year that the Auto Industry has had in a long time. I voted to save the Auto Industry. He voted against the money that ended up saving the Auto Industry. I think that is a pretty big difference. Well, i if you are talking about the wall street bailout where some of your friends destroyed this economy you know excuse me, im talking. [ applause ] if youre going to talk, tell the whole story, senator sanders. Let me tell my story, you tell yours. Your story is for voting for every disastrous trade agreement and voting for corporate america. Did i vote against the wall street bailout when billionaires on wall street destroyed this economy they went to congress and they said oh, please, well be good boys, bail us out. You know what i said . I said let the billionaires themselves bail out wall street. It shouldnt be the middleclass of this country. Okay, so wait a minute. Can i finish . Youll have your turn. So, Mark Halperin, we know what senator sanders is up against, weve seen the delegate count, weve seen the numbers in michigan where they were debating but he does not have the appearance or give up the impression that hes about to go away from this race. Hed like to beater in a big state and change the dynamic of the race and hes got plenty money left. Last night he had many good tactical moments against her but he was not able to do what he needs to do to beat her which is change fundamentally the dynamics of the race and it will be difficult to do that. Last night i gave hear b plus and him a b in overall performance. Again, he did just fine, but she did better because shes very much in command of the dynamics of the race and nothing he did allowed him to change all that. Al hunt, what is this race between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders look like over this next few months . Obviously hes got the resources to stay in, hes got the message to stay in. Its an uphill climb, we know that. Whats the dynamic between the two of them look like if this goes on. First, it looks better than their counterparts who are debating about body parts rather than trade deals so i think you give them some credit for that. But i think look, Bernie Sanders is not a conventional politici politician. I had a clinton person tell me a month ago when she has this big lead with a thousand vote lead in delegate, the Chuck Schumers of the world are going to pressure bernie to get out. Bernie doesnt care what Chuck Schumer thinks. Hes in this for the same reason hes been in politics for the last 30 years. He wants to deliver a message. I think he realizes its highly unlikely hell be the nominee but he thinks hes making the mark and has had a real impact on the agenda and he probably has. On the republican side on saturday donald trump added victories in kentucky and louisiana edging out ted cruz by narrow margins while cruz posted doubledigit wins in kansas and maine. Marco rubio handily won yesterdays contest in puerto rico. He took 74 of the vote there, claiming all of its 23 delegates. Donald trump still leads the overall count with 392, cruz took the most delegates this weekend, 70, to trumps 61. He now has 305 delegates. Rubio has 153 and john kasich with 35. As the delegate leaders, trump and cruz are calling on marco rubio to drop out. Theyre getting tougher with each other. I want to congratulate ted on maine and on kansas and he should do well in maine because its very close to canada, lets face it. [ laughter and applause ] both marco rubio and john kasich, they love this country. Theyre not doing this for themselves. Theyre stepping forward sacrificially to serve this country and lead it. I believe this process will continue naturally, that we will continue to unify and come together and i welcome supporters for every other candidate. Marco rubio had a very, very bad night. And personally id call for them to drop out of the race, i think its time now he drop out of the race. You know, i dont think tonight he can get up and rant and rave and oh, he did great, he comes in third, he comes in fourth. Every time he comes in third or fourth he says you have to be able to win. I would love to take on ted one on one. That would be so much fun. Because ted cant win new york. He cant win new jersey. He cant win pennsylvania. He cant win california. I want ted one on one. I cant tell how many Media Outlets i hear have this great expose on donald on different aspects of his business dealings or his past but they say you know what . Well hold it to june or july. We wont run it now youre saying reporters have told you that . Absolutely. From which organizations . Im not going to out Media Outlets but i can tell you, there is so much there. Okay. Mark halperin, first of all, practically speaking, is there a path for rubio . Oh, its hard. Hed have to win florida. Is there should he drop out . Its not ours to say, obviously. Its not theirs to say. I think the problem for him is to go into florida and lose florida badly which right now it seems like he would do wouldnt be great for his political future and the question is, is it good for the partys movement to stop trump for him to get out or not . I think if he got out it might help the stop trump forces but im not sure. Nicollnicolle . Theyre not going out. Their assessment of where florida stands today is that trump has a strong hold on the florida panhandle. That they do very well in south florida where rubios from and that the fight will be waged as every statewide race in florida is waged along the i4 corridor. They have mel martinez campaigning for them, they have important newspaper endorsements, but this conversation about what they should do, ive been on winning campaigns and losing campaigns, it usually has very little bearing on what you actually do. If you say there is no path, but it sounds like there could be one. Its a weird cycle. If you apply to a normal frame to it, you might say that. The math is very, very tough for donald trump to get a majority. He has to perform quite well. For instance, rubio, you could argue theres no path to majority and no path to him beating trump at the convention but is there a foopath to a kasich rubio ticket . Sure. Is that more likely if he stays in and wins delegates . Yeah. Could that be realistic . It seems to me from the really most knowledgeable experienced people, especially on republican politics from the get go is that jeb bush or marco rubio were the ones to watch. Were the withins who would probably make it to the top. I just wonder what has happened at this point. Well, i was at an event saturday night with a lot of Establishment Republicans and some rubio people and despair so understates the case. [ laughter ] i really, ive never seen anything like it. There was a lot of heavy drinking after that. I think that its conceivable trump can be stopped. Short of 12 the 3 21237. But they need rubio and kasich for if the next eight days. If marco rubio gets out, i think donald trump is guaranteed to win florida right now. May well win it anyway and certainly if john kasich were to get out i think trump would be the more likely beneficiary short term in ohio. So they need the antitrump faction needs to keep some of those people in right now. Then they have a huge decision to make. Some time in mid to late march. Because the most likely challenger to trump is ted cruz and someone said that youd love to be the guy to walk into Mitch Mcconnells office that says guess what . I think we can stop donald trump. Were going to stop him with ted cruz. At which point mitch has a nervous breakdown. Though youve seen some establishment senators come around to the idea. Lindsey graham is talking about it. He talked to ted cruz a couple days ago. Wasnt there like a strange choice . Poison or death . Yes, as we talk about senator marco rubio putting his eggs in the florida basket i think theres one public poll that shows him within Single Digits otherwise trump has double digit lie leads. But hes staying in because they dont believe trump can get to 1278. Maybe he has a roll not as the nominee but on a ticket. As nicolle alluded to and married dowd wrote yesterday, when people tell you you should be president , you tend to believe them and so its such a chaotic year. No rule that People Like Us tend to create has really applied. So why wouldnt you keep rolling forward . And hope that something happens. You know, to connect this to the reagans quickly, 40 years ago Ronald Reagan went into kansas city, into the republican convention, challenging an incumbent president and was one delegation away from winning the nomination. So its been a long time but Stranger Things have happened and have happened in the last, say, six days. Im sitting in a state where 94 out of 95 counties were carried by donald trump in tennessee. And a very senior elected official in this state a week before super tuesday said he had seen polling that showed trump up 12 points but he had not met anyone who was for trump. And that in a snapshot is the story of this year. So all of our talk about what the what als heavy drinkers which i totally understand are going to do or manipulate, you know, this is a free agent process right now. I have not seen a din goner by or heard of a din gore by where that isnt the topic of conversation. Lets get to other news. In financial news, global stocks have been mixed. European markets traded lower despite last fridays solid u. S. Jobs reports. U. S. Dow futures are down 55 points. In idaho, a pastor is recovering after being shot the day after he delivered a prayer for ted cruz. 55yearold Tim Remington delivered the invocation at a Campaign Rally for cruz in north idaho on saturday. On sunday, police say, he was shot and critically wounded in the parking lot of his church. The gunman, identified as 30yearold kyle andrew odom. Remington was listed in stable condition last night. Well follow that. After announcing last august he had been diagnosed with melanoma, former president jimmy carter says he no longer needs cancer treatment. President carter made the announce. Yesterday at the south Georgia Church where he often teaches sunday school. The 91yearold said doctors will continue to monitor his health and he will resume treatments if the cancer returns. In sports, new Denver Broncos quarterback peyton manning is retiring. After 18 years in nfl on the final hoist of the lombardi trophy the 39yearold is expected to announce the news this afternoon. Mannings storied career includes a record five mvp awards, two championship titles and a slew of accolades. Hell retire as the only quarterback in League History to lead two franchises to super bowl victories. Finally, the man credited with inventing the email, ray tomlinson, has died. In 1971 tomlinson developed the electronic message as a way to communicate via computer. A graduate of m. I. T. , tomlinson also cre

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