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Conjunctive nominee, definitely. I use the analogy of the boxer, when the boxer knocks out the other boxer, you dont have to wait around for another decision. Thats what it is. Thats what happened tonight. As far as im concerned its over. These guys cannot win. If Hillary Clinton were a man, i dont think shed get 5 of the vote. The only thing shes got voting is womens card. If fighting for Womens Health care and paid family leave and equal pay is playing the womens card, then deal me in. Good night for Hillary Clinton. You know what, eh, for donald trump. Depending how you look at it. We found where the ceiling was, 67 is that his ceiling. You know. Poor guy. Theres a lot of ways, thats what we should focus on. For trump three of the five races were called immediately after polls were closed with final two following his way a few minutes later. Trumps wins were sweeping. The margins were wide. He won with 64 in rhode island. Can i say this . Yes. Youre covered with cat hair. Sorry. Am i really . Whats the ceiling. Ceiling was 15, 20, 25 . No. Last night in rhode island trumps ceiling, poor guy, time to get out of the race now. Only 64 . In delaware pathetic. The rookie was held to 61 . Connecticut. It is the first time hes ever run for anything. 58 . Pennsylvania, not an important state. Everybody was right. Everybody was right all along. Maryland 54 . He won 109 delegates, ted cruz won three, john kasich won five. If you take a bad lift from a sports movie like hoosiers, they can deduct those back from you. That was pathetic. That much closer to 1237. Go ahead. The numbers werent on crushing in terms of 54, 67 , the demographic of that vote that he received last night was truly crushing for his other two candidates. Ted cruz is now a marginal regional candidate, a loser. Donald trump is a National Candidate. The demographics hes talking about, trump is not winning among conservative voters, evangelical voters and starting to do better among suburban voters. I went to my polling place and i actually had all of these women its conservative with small c. Connecticut conservative. Its very, very connecticut i would say. College pink and green. Thats what i say. I walk in and theres all these women in pink and green and all these guys who obviously are probably going right back to the club, ten. They were like, yeah, we know who youre voting for. They are all like hissing at me. Right . They go kasich. I said, who are you voting for . This he go, trump. I started thinking if they are all voting for trump in new canaan. Nobody would have put his bumper sticker i told you about this. Nobody would have put his Bumper Sticker on their range rover. I saw my first one a few months ago. Its spreading out to suburbanites, conservative evangelicals. Even in the northeast. The walls are closing in on the stop trump movement. Cruz and kasich trying to do their under antitrump its a terrible blunder. Not like we havent been weve been quoting Richard Nixon for a long time here who said show me a campaign where everybody is against candidate x and i will show you a campaign where candidate x wins. Last night candidate x, donald trump, crushed crushed all commerce. Donald trump will be joining us live in about 30 minutes. On the democratic side Hillary Clinton won four out of the five bringing in 193 delegates. Bernie sanders. With us we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle. Formers Communications Director nicolle wallace, managing editor of Bloomberg Politics and former chairman of the national committee. Before we go to the maps, what is mike barnicle. Legendary. Nicole is like the iron woman. Caffeinated. How are your parents feeling this morning . They texted me all night as though its my prime time coverage. I get notes like jump in and tell them that donned is evolving. Jump in i said at one point, for his own political purposes, it might have helped him to do what he has to do to give a quick congrats, fire back with twitter texting range. He should never. Michael steele, he calls himself the presumptive nominee. What would we call him . The presumptive nominee. If he were any other candidate, thats exactly what everyone in washington, around the country would be calling him inside the gop. Donald trump put together a massive coalition of support. Hes now won in every region, winning in every region of the country. The base is now consolidating behind him. What has to happen the base is saying this clearly to everybody else, you need to get behind him and move this thing forward. I think the party should spend less time trying to deconstruct and try to figure out how to help him be a successful candidate in november. Donald trump excelled with voters across the board. Look at the map of pennsylvania. He won every county across the state, the same as maryland, delaware. He won all but one county in rhode island and all but six in connecticut. As of this morning it appears ted cruz did not win a single county last night. According to exit polling, trump did it with voters of all income brackets. In maryland he took 60 of voters who made between 50 and 100,000. In connecticut, he won a majority of voters in every single income bracket. Yeah. But John Heilemann still John Heilemann, a caveat. However, come on. What are the papers going to be . Its got to be something. I got nothing for you. He got nothing . Whats happened . Complete, total dominance over the past several weeks . Whats going on . Yeah, look, hes again oh, my god. So on the democratic side frontrunner is all but assured the nomination. On the republican side results narrow chances for cruz and kasich. Advisers foreign financial deals led to disputes. All negative. Trump has his night and all negative. If you think about his performance last night, if you look at the range of what he could do going into yesterday, in terms of the margins he might have racked up if you projected forward and the kind of delegate haul he would get, he was at the high end of the range. We assumed hed win all the states, but he won them by huge margins and took virtually every delegate available. All the questions about unbound delegates in pennsylvania that are still out there but many of those delegates have said they either intend to or will for sure follow the results in their congressional district. So the 109 delegates that we show him getting understates the case. Hes going to get a bunch of unbound delegates out of pennsylvania. I think its fair to say that even within the cruz and kasich camps, when they were looking at what they were hoping to accomplish tonight to keep open some path to stopping him from getting to 1237, he beat that ceiling he beat their hope for projected, beat that by a lot. Its not impossible, its not impossible that he could be stopped from getting 1237 but its really, really, really hard now. Its really hard. Its really unlikely, as weve been saying around the table for for a month now. Yes, its very unlikely. They actually used their ground game. They spent money, worked on their ground game. It paid off. They were all over pennsylvania. And it certainly did pay off. Nicole, i want to go back. I just im sorry, i have to take one final swipe. At me . No, everybody. Not you. Its morning. At everyone. Yeah. That had been saying like it was the gospel for years. Time to put it away. The second the field narrowed that trump would get beaten. I heard fools say im going to say they were fools, or else they were just politically dishonest. It goes back to people saying intellectually dishonest saying what they hoped it would be. Blinded by hope. Blinded by hatred and not good analyst by saying how many times did you hear through the fall, 27 of people may be for trump, even though we said his ceiling was 15. What does that mean . That means 73 are against him. Like serious editorial writers, serious newspapers. With never any evidence on a tuesday night when elections were held. Personal animus. Performing based on that analysis. Trump would say in realtime, yeah, but those other 73 arent all going to go for them. A lot of them are going to vote for hillary. Thats just trump being a jerk. Even with the new alliance, strategic assumption that cruz and kasich made, was that if kasich clears indiana, they will all vote for cruz. Ive never seen any data suggesting that kasich and cruz voters overlapped so you could bank on them voting the other. Ive never seen that. On every level. On every level. Mike one thing i would hope would cease out there, after you say what you say, after you say what you say, you start getting all this negative reaction to it among viewers saying youre in the bag for trump. Trump is the news story. Trump is the leading candidate for republican nomination for president by far, has been for several months. On that first part, a lot of that was just anger because we were right and everybody was wrong. Never say it again. Ill never say it again. All im saying, we heard that when everybody else was stupid true. Everybody else was stupid. They were wrong and we were right. Youre in the hey, how about this, put it on a Bumper Sticker. Were in the bank for the truth. We were right about marco. No, we dont hate marco, we just knew he wasnt going to win. Theres a sub lead to the crushing defeat trump administered to his opponents, hes not controlled by any rival in his campaign. A rebuke. Here is trump last night at a News Conference in trump tower. This is a far bigger win than we even expected, all five. Thats something thatsreal really not only is it all five. Its all five whether its 60 or just about 60. Even i see one up there at 66 and 67. You have to remember, and i say this all the time to the pundits. I love the pundits but i say it all the time. There are three people. When you crack 60, as we did last week with our great city and great state of new york, when you crack 60 with three people, thats very hard to do. In fact, i think chris can tell you if you crack 60 with two people, thats called a massive landslide. I consider myself the presumptive nominee absolutely. Trump also addressed Campaign Strategy including he rejected a push to make him appear, quote, more president ial. His blunt rhetoric is merely a persona. No, i am me. I hear that. Hell be president ial, hell be not president ial. Its very easy to be president ial. By the way, much easier. Im not playing a part. Look i started off at 17, rhyme down now, its winning. Its over. These guys cannot win. Theres no path. Why would i change . If you have a Football Team and youre winning and you get to the super bowl, you dont change your quarterback. Im not changing. It actually seems, mika i think its a nonstory, the whole persona thing. What im saying is i think were getting a balance in this campaign. You had Paul Manafort coming on. Corey in there. Seems what we saw is a balance. Paul manafort bringing discipline on communication front. Corey, let trump be trump. At the same time manafort and others organizing on the ground seem to do this job very well. A big win. Organizing on the ground is something they need to do well and should do well. In terms of this whole persona thing. First of all, he is 100 correct, its going to be a lot easier to dial back. This guy has been riffing and adlibbing and extemporaneously going through the election process, quite well for him, by the way. No prompters, off the cuff, taking on media from all sides, using social media from all sides, making mistakes and getting through them. Now at the moment he feels he needs to dial back, or maybe a moment takes him over and he feels something different, he will do it. No one is going to tell him to do it. Hes not a puppet, he never will be. Its a made up story. I know him. He spends the whole day on the phone talking to people getting ideas, concepts. Its not man fort and corey telling him what to do and giving him advice, its a lot of people. He picks and chooses what he likes, what he feels. Hes not a puppet. And hes giving a Foreign Policy speech today, then hell go out tonight probably and talk about lyin ted. I have a question. The Trump Campaign for the last nine days, michael, am i wrong in cleveland one of the more interesting aspects to cover in terms of news would be the platform. Trump would seem to me hes heading towards the middle. Hes going to be in opposition to some really rock ribbed hardened views among conservatives in the republican wing of the party, is it going to be a platform fight, do you suspect . Oh, yeah. As nicole can tell you the reality of the nominating process is when you become the nominee, you take over the operations of the Republican National committee. They put on the convention for the nominee, but that nominee has his players, his team in place on both the Platform Committee and the rules committee. Thats why that rules committee fight is going to be an important one, because ted cruz and john kasich, to some extent, are going to try to gain some control there, to have some influence on how the convention operates. But the message, the soul, the heart of the party is going to be found in the platform. Donald trump if he goes into this convention with the 1237, or close to it, will have a greater say in controlling opportunity to make that platform much more a reflection of his philosophical view than you will have from some others in the party. All right. Well, still ahead on morning joe, two of the most important voices in republican politics right now, donald trump joins us on the heels of his election sweep last night. Plus House Speaker paul ryan, who will need to square his agenda with that of the partys eventual nominee. Coming up next, we are going to be going enthusiastthrough h clintons massive victory last night. I was going to read your piece, trumps sweep is a humiliating defeat for media and political i dont want to talk about that. I think lose a lot of friends. I dont want to read it. Well be right back. For the ons who rise before it shines. The ones who labor for what they love. 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With your help, were going to come back to philadelphia for the Democratic National convention. And we will unify our party to win this election and build an america where we can all rise together, an america where we lift each other up instead of tearing each other down. Whether you support senator sanders or you support me, theres much more that unites us than divides us. What a massive night for Hillary Clinton. That was a huge nicole, a huge victory for Hillary Clinton. A huge victory, a terrible night for Bernie Sanders. By the end of the night the Sanders Campaign was sending out its first signals they will now pivot to making their effort one about changing the platform. I think maybe that went on a minute too long, because donald trump as part of his speech last night is telegraphing bernies latest round of attacks on her, which were as recently as sunday shows calling doubling down on the charge shes unethical and unqualified. So i think that race may be buttoning up in the nick of time. What do you think, john, over . Mathematically its been over for a while. To the extent it was with her 240 pledge delegate lead going into last night. Right. It was essentially impossible for him to catch up. She picked up another 50 pledge delegates last night. Its mathematically out of reach. What happened . Was she always going to be the strong northeast candidate . What happened . We can explain hillary doing great in the south but what about the northeast . What happened . Shes been strong everywhere. Hes won some contests, run a great campaign. He won like seven out of eight. A lot of those were caucus states and a lot were states with very with the least diverse lec torts. Northeast lec torts, more diverse lec torts, a strong northeast candidate. Shes got momentum, better ground game. None of that takes away from what hes accomplished. Hes gone so much further than anyone ever expected him to go. Hes electrofied an incredibly important part of the electorate that shes going to need to win in the fall, but she built she was the frontrunner. She was able to get through her moments. She was under most pressure. She was able to get through those moments and come out the other end. Natural electorate in places like seattle, portland, and oslo. There just werent enough of those in the calendar. Last night senator sanders congratulated secretary clinton on her victories and signaled he was looking ahead to the next 14 contests. In the same statement his campaign wrote, quote, the people in every state of this country should have the right to determine who they want as president. What the agenda the Democratic Party should be. Thats why were in this race until the last vote is cast of thats why the campaign is going to the Democratic National convention in philadelphia with as many delegates as possible to fight for a Progressive Party platform. Many are reading into that language the acknowledgement the campaign is slipping out of their reach. Last night in philadelphia gave little attention to the crowds vote but instead reminded the crowd how far his campaign has come. We were taking on the most powerful Political Organ

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