Works better or feels better. Clinically proven helioplex® ovides unbeatable uva uvb protection to help prevent early skin aging and skin cancer all with a clean light feel. For unbeatable protection. Its the one. The best for your skin. Ultra sheer®. Neutrogena®. See whats possible. Excuse me, bartender, do you mind if i just have one more drink with my old, very old, kind of dangerously old friend, bernie. Sure, mrs. Clinton. What should i get for you two . Ill have a beer. A new brand people are flocking to. Something refreshing and revolutionary. Something that draws huge crowds. And ill have whatever beer no one likes but gets the job done. Oh, bernie, you should be proud, you know . You ran a damned good campaign. Im running a good campaign. But dont worry, i promise, im going to have a very special role for you in my administration. How would you like to be wait for it the senator from vermont . Oh, hillary, ill miss that lack of charm. And good morning. And he wouldnt leave the bar. Like, last call. He said he wont leave the bar. Hes that guy. He is that guy. Good morning. Your alarms going off. Its monday. A sports alert awfully early. May 23rd. With us on set, managing editor of Bloomberg Politicsand with all due respect that airs at 6 00 on msnbc. Mark, how are you doing . Very good. Thank you for asking. Like america, im in a dead heat. And then jon meacham. I think an apology might be an order. Do you think . I think so. The entire b block will be an apology. I owe him one. I think america is waiting. It might be me. It just might be. Ill let you do it. You always brings up shades rebellion and we make fun of you nonstop. Because its so boring. And this weekend, i had no choice, when i was writing an oped in the Washington Post, alexanders warning to 2016 voters. And ill be damned if it didnt all turn on shays rebellion. Historys not boring, its important. Its vindication. I think you should lead the apology. Theres a lot of value in the
history that you bring to the table. Its just sometimes you weave it in we dont need it. Its just, you know, get to the point. Also with us, msnbc political analyst and professor at the university of Michigan School of Public Policy, former democratic congressman, harold never have that problem with me weaving in important no, no, no. Thats your strength. The postrevolution fervor was broken by fever was broken by i could read this dramatically. So a lot going on. Lets just say one thing off the top, though. I thought we just did. Donald trump, people said that donald trump couldnt win the nomination and then they said, he couldnt grow. Said he couldnt rise above, like twitter wars, right . Mmhmm. And i think he proved everybody wrong this weekend. He delivered what i think is akin to the second gettysburg address i mean, lincolns second inaugural. I see, this is sarcasm. Cnn is so negative, getting even worse as i get closer. Just had two antitrump losers with zero rebuttal from my team. Turning off Mark Halperin, i would have laughed two months ago. Has anybody notified this guy hes about to lock down the nomination and going into a general election mode why is he doing these mindless twitter feuds on saturday afternoon . Why wont let you let trump be trump, joe . Because that trump loses in a general election. Ive said it. Maybe im dead wrong. What works in a republican primary and gains votes in a republican primary often loses votes in the general election. And sort of this, this battling. Who wants a president thats going to be entering tweet wars with everybody, repeatedly . Like, the Washington Post on friday wrote some column saying, oh, the morning joe trump feud
is over. Im like, theres a feud . Hes just like shooting allaround, nonstop. Tell me. Are there people around him and in washington that are concerned that he continues to engage in twitter wars . No, i mean, look, going after the press has served him well, so, i agree with you that there are some things that probably hes done that wont help him. But going after the press has served him well. It has. You think its okay for him going into you think americans will want to elect a president who is engaging in twitter wars on a saturday afternoon . The two polls over the weekend suggest that this is going to be an election about who the country doesnt want. Right. And so so jon meacham, if, perhaps, you released a policy position and started showing consistency on your policy positions, instead of trading them out like we used to trade
baseball cards, wouldnt that be a better way to spend a saturday afternoon . Well, i mean, i think that a lot of maybe im dead wrong here. I think youre right, that its a its not what you would think of as a conventional president ial temperament, but everything about the last ten months suggests that conventional president ial temperament may not work well, as you say, at least, in the primary. As mark says, 29 of a favorable review of him in one of the polls over the weekend, with 35 for hillary, Something Like that. So thats a bright flashing light for him. A lot of times im sorry, the question is, the muchvaunted pivot. When does that happen . I havent seen it. And i think thats the problem. I mean, harold ford, festering resentments play very well in primaries, especially on the right and on the left. But when you get to the general election, this is like politics 101, at some point you have to be seen as growing and at least moderating temperamentally, dont you . You do. But he wont stop doing this until hes punished in the polls. And if the weekend polling, this snapshot is to be believed, it hasnt begun to affect him in a punishing way. So i would join with john and halperin arent that far apart, but this is unconventional, hes an unconventional candidate, people didnt think he would be there, so if youre him, you continue to do this until youre hit. And if youre mrs. Clinton, you say, we can tempt this guy. We can bring him to a point where we can demonstrate to the country forcefully and convincingly that he does not have the temperament to be president. But until hes punished, hell continue to do this. And saturday tweets will be overrun by a selection of his running mate and the convention and the debates. Does he keep tweeting after that . I dont think it matters. If he gets those things right, i
think the dog whistles are targeted for audiences. And theyre really excited about Newt Gingrich . Do you think thats a great selection . I still do not believe thats going to happen. Lets actually look at the numbers. Maybe he knows what hes doing. With 5 1 2 months to go before the president ial election, new polls the this weekend show the race is neck and neck with donald trump narrowing Hillary Clintons national lead. The new nbc wall street journal poll shows clintons 11point lead in april is now just 3 points, 46 to 43 , within the margin of error, this as the Washington Post abc poll puts trump slightly ahead of clinton with the race effectively tied, 4644 , an 11point shift in trumps favor. Plus, the cbs news ugov. Poll shows clinton and trump in a dead heat in critical mustwin states. In florida, 43 for clinton and 42 . And in ohio, clinton has a
fivepoint lead. My campaign is not going to let donald trump try to normalize himself in this period. If we dont respond to donald trump, which i am doing, as you have seen. I said he is unqualified to be president. I believe that deeply, im going to keep focused on donald trump, because i will be the nominee. I will be running against donald trump in the fall. And i do not want americans and, you know, goodthinking republicans, as well as democrats and independents, to start to believe that this is a normal candidacy. It isnt. Meanwhile, donald trump and Hillary Clinton are already making history, as the nbc wall street journal polls most unpopular likely president ial nominees ever. Only 34 of registered voters have a positive opinion of clinton. 54 have a negative opinion. A new rating of minus 20 points. Trump is down even lower. 29 percent have a positive opinion on him and 58 have a negative rating and that. Jon meacham, those are mindboggling numbers in may. And Hillary Clinton is going to spend and donald trump has said hes going to spend the rest of the campaign attacking Hillary Clinton and bill clinton and suggesting that Hillary Clinton sat by idly or enable d. These numbers will not go lower. This is not a shining city on a Hill Campaign. Even by our very low standards of president for politics. To me, the most interesting
thing over the weekend was senator clinton using the word normalized. Thats coming out of a lot of strategic sessions where theyve learned, i think, the lesson, it was 04, when the Bush Campaign did so well at attacking john kerry and the independent expenditure groups did. So theres no phony war here, no pause, its just going to go, go, go. And the battle really is here. Does trump keep doing what hes done . Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. In his view, doing the same thing over and over again may achieve the same result. And insanity for him would not be doing the same thing over and over again. Because everybody said, this doesnt make sense in the future. Hes ignored them, hes done it, hes prevailed, looking pretty great in a lot of these polls, but what do those negatives show you, Mark Halperin . Three things. One is that its going to be possible for one of these candidates to win, being very unliked by the country. Statistically. And being unable to govern for four years. Thats going to be very tough to do. Second, theres room for another candidate to get into this race. And the last thing is, the clinton people, she doesnt want to be normalized. Trump says, he cant possibly win because hes so unpopular. Shes unpopular, too. Thats unbelievable. There are very few democrats left around Hillary Clinton who say he cant win. They still think shell win, but there are very few who say its an impossibility. And thats why shes going for this thing, dont normalize it. It would be much better for her if they said, as flawed as she is, trump is unimaginable as president. This paves the way for the next number from the polls. About half of voters would consider a third party in the president ial election. 47 tell the nbc wall street journal poll they would be open to voting for a third option
this november. While a majority, 51 say they want a Third Party Candidate to run. According to the Washington Post abc poll. That is and that goes to what you were saying, your second point, which was, when you have people this unpopular, it paves the way. We hear bob gates and everyone else say, its just too late. It would be too late it wouldnt be too late if the right person existed. Thats the key. A human being who was popular with the country and who had an issue of positions that kind of split the difference between the two, would have a good chance to be a factor in the race and get on the debate stage. But that person, so far, doesnt exist. Jon meacham, youve been talking for years about a 150year duopoly thats going to be broken up. This would be the ideal year, it seems, with these two candidates, to break that duopoly. Yeah. Parties die or change significantly when they cant get majority consensus on the key issue of the day, right . So the wigs fall apart in the
1850s, the 1960s, the parties flip on civil rights. Today, it seems to me theres not majority consensus really in either party, given sanders continued success, about globalization and its implications. Yeah. So if you look at it from sort of a high view, then, yeah, there should be a shift here. This is also, sure as heck feels like a year to me, like 68, like 92, where it feels like theres going to be a minority president out of this, somehow. The idea that one of these folks is going to get above 50 will be very unlikely. You point out in your column the differences with 68. Yeah, this is so radical. This is such a radical year, 68, we think about 68 as sort of a revolutionary year. Whats, i guess whats so shocking is, harold, in 1968, the revolution was out in the streets. The Party Structures were still in tact, and in fact, two of the
most establishment figures imaginable, Hubert Humphrey and richard nixon, won their partys nominations. This year, the revolution is not out in the street. Its inside its left the street. Its now inside the parties. Its donald trump. Donald trump is the disrupter whos going to win the republican nomination. And on the democratic side, Bernie Sanders is the disrupter, and that revolution is happening inside the Democratic Party right now. I mean, these parties dont know that theyre breaking apart, but the revolution has come inside. Look, both the parties can have, theres enough accountability and blame in each party to explain why this has happened. Republicans the last 20 years pushing messages around, trade and messages around the tea party and government, and it got a group of people who want a certain amount of change. Democrats pushed a message against business and about against banks and Bernie Sanders in a lot of ways represents that. And theres no doubt trade and globalization have had the
impact they had. I dont know, though, to marks point, which i think is probably the right answer, i dont know if theres a right person. You may have regional people. Tom brady could run in the northeast or new england. Peyton manning could run out in the rocky mountains. But do you have one person who can unite and be that vessel that could be the third party . Im not convinced that there is, as much as i may find it appealing and some others may want to be supportive of it. I think over time, these numbers will change. And in addition, i dont think well find another time when the nominees of the respective parties will emerge from their Party Primary process more popular than they are unpopular. Largely because we focus on this thing for so long. Furthermore, everybodys imperfect, and you can find something that someone has said or voted on that puts them out of the mainstream or puts them out of the mainstream with the mainstream feeling in that particular party. I think these numbers will come up a bit. And i dont think theres any doubt, mrs. Clinton recognizes that the way to go after trump is to make him look so outside of the ordinary that she looks
ordinary. Neither one of these candidates are going to win. And they know this. And their political strategists are telling them, youre not going to win. You have to make the other person lose. Okay, but theres still Bernie Sanders. And we have to cover what happened in california over the weekend. So coming up on morning joe, if it wasnt already clear, Bernie Sanders making it very obvious that hes not happy with the chair of the dnc. Also ahead, president obamas 2012 Campaign Manager, jim messina, the Washington Posts robert costa, and journalist Soledad Obrien with a new project about the struggle for so Many American veterans when the war comes home. And a live update from cairo on the search for what or who brought down that passenger jet late last week. But first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. You guys ready for some summer heat . Were still waiting. I know, its coming. This upcoming week will get much warmer. A big pattern flip for areas of the east. Were still watching the tornado
threat. Just the light threatening weather we dealt with yesterday and more out there today. Lets take you into texas. Thats a pretty good decentsized tornado in the background there. We had other tornadoes, too. Another one as far north as south dakota we also watched. Storm chasers had good visibility on these storms yesterday. In rural areas of the west, over farmers fields, nice and safe and thats where we wanted to keep them. You can see, its black like that, because thats the soil its picking up from the ground. Lets take you into this morning, worst weather in the country, north texas, the dallasft. Worth area. If youre headed up 35 around sherman, thats where we have some thunderstorms, thats it. The only bad weather. Virginia, more rain for you this morning. What a miserable may. Straight from early spring to summer heat this week in the midatlantic. About time. So todays risk, 14 Million People at risk. Minneapolis all the way down through areas of kansas, nebraska, oklahoma, and texas. Well see a few tornadoes again today. Theyll be mostly in rural areas of western texas. Hopefully theyll miss and not hit any of those small towns. And tomorrow, 13 million more
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