I morning joe starts now. The lower 25 cant afford private. Universal health care . Im going to take care of everybody. I dont care if it costs me votes or not. Are you going to make sure people with preconditions are covered. Theres going to be a period when you repeal it before you replace it were going to do it simultaneously. Its just fine. It an unbelievably complex subject. Nobody knew health care could be so complicated. The Republican Party will soon be northeasteknown as the health care. I mean it, 100 . I understand health care now. A lot of people dont understand it. So four years of promises and donald trump says he understands health care now, but you wont see a plan for another 19 months. After boldly announcing the impending overhaul of health care hes tweeting that the big vote will be taken right after the 2020 election. Believe him good morning and welcome to morning joe. It is tuesday, april 2nd. With us we have former treasury official and morning joe economic analyst Steve Rattner, washington anchor for the bbc catty kay, David Ignatius and cofounder of axios, jim vandehei. Before we launch into trumps promise, i put that in quotes, Kamala Harris, 12 raised. Well talk about her big haul in, her big sweep in. Weep know Pete Buttigieg made news by announcing he raised 7 million. Mayor pete got a couple married 45 minutes before they had a csection on the drop of a hat yesterday. Well be talking about that and whats going on with him. Thats what americas new mayor does. Hes so cute. And David Ignatius, when i heard Donald Trumps promise, his secret plan to Reform Health care, which would be voted on after the 2020 election, i thought of Richard Nixons secret plan to get us out of vietnam, which of course when david frost asked him after he was disgraced and out of office, what was your secret plan, nixon said somewhat disarmingly, oh, i never had a secret plan. Trump has so little cr credibility on health care, the idea hes decided hes going to form the battle line on the issue you could predict with more confidence than any other will be trouble for hmm just tells you something about his political judgment. The reports are those rightharm are basically aghast. Yet the president moves forward. Jim vandehei, this would be much like the democratic part deciding, you know what, in 2020 were going to be the party of prolife, we are going to go out and making prolife our top issue. I mean, health care, again, it was a nightmare in 2018, the largest landslide ever in terms of vote totals. And donald trump has so many broken promises from 2016 that are going to be highlighted already that actually draw that fight there where hes broken well, hes lied about, you know, health care for all, universal health care. Hes lied about not cutting medicare. Hes lied about not cutting medicaid. Hes lied about lower deductibles, hes lied about lower premiums. Hes lied about everything involving health care. How bad of a situation is this for republicans if that is where donald trump decides to fight . When you talk to Republican Leaders on capitol hill, its really bad. Its not just the last election, its almost every election if you had to bet on what topic is the most important topic, its health care because it touches everybody. One of the simple rules of politics is when you take stuff away from people, thats really hard in politics. When people had coverage and doesnt have coverage, its really hard to explain youre going to have a plan for two years. One of the things thats bedevilled republicans is they dont have a plan that would cover everyone, would cover preexisting conditions, would bring down your Health Insurance costs. Theyve struggled to come to a unifying position and they end up fighting about court fights, which is are basically taking away parts of obamacare, some of which people may not like but some of which they do like, they like preexisting conditions are covered and theyd much rather fight where they feel they have superior policy. Steve rattner, if you look at the numbers from 2018, i guess there is no place for republicans to run, there is no place for republicans to hide when it comes election time because think about all the lies donald trump was throwing out at voters and he was talking about caravans filled with people, saying there were people filled with leprosy and horrid conditions, talking about sending troops to the borders and trump republicans got absolutely demolished. Theres no reason to think the same thing is not going to happen in 2020. Think about this, steve, republicans have been attacking obamacare now for a decade. A decade. Theyve had no response to obamacare for a decade. Now we have a president , the head of their party, saying were not going to even have a plan to replace obamacare by the time you guys go to vote next november. Its really its staggering how bereft of ideas this party is. Well, the whole thing on health care is quite incredible. As you know, the Republican House voted to repeal obamacare Something Like 50 times under the obama administration, but they knew they could do that because the senate was never going to pass it so they didnt have a plan. So then they show up and actually start to put a plan through congress. You remember the American Health care act. The house passed it. Mccain famously voted against it, for which trump is now castigating them. It would have cost 23 Million People their insurance, gutted obamacare. And trump is castigating mccain even though trump was for it and it would have cost 23 million americans their health care. Now hes saying we have no plan, well have a plan sometimes after 2020. Every poll says this is the most important issue. He obviously doesnt have a plan because he cant have a plan. There is no republican plan anywhere within the republican ecosystem that would satisfy republicans views of how health care should be implemented and still protect americans not just against preexisting conditions but have insurance all together. Theyre trying to play a game with the American Voters of kicking the can past the election and fool americans that they have never had a plan and never will have a plan that people will like. Its much easier to make false promises about a plan that does not exist. Thats what will happen. As he has done before. House republicans are ramping up their fight to gain access to the full version of Robert Muellers report on his russia probe. The house jacket has revealed plans to vote tomorrow to authorize spoon as for the roughly 400page report and its underlying material. The move comes after lawmakers rejected a deal for william barr to hand over a version of the document. They are weighing subpoenas from five former white house officials related to that investigation. That includes former white House Counsel don mcgahn, former white house chief of staff prince priebus, former White House Communications director hope hicks, former white house chief strategist steve bannon and former White House Deputy counsel ann donaldson. Meanwhile Jared Kushner is dismissing krconcerns over the authorization of his security clearances as a white house whistleblower raised red flags. Elijah cummings revealed yesterday that Trisha Newbold met with Committee Staff to relay her issues about the dysfunction she says shes witnessed over the past two years. Newbold has sfrd erved for both democratic and republican president s, say that President Trump overruled at least 25 denials despite concerns about black mail, influence and said it could jeopardize National Security and that coming forward marked her last hope to bring the integrity back into the office. Chairman cummings said his committee will subpoena the person personnel head at the white house today and that more subpoenas may follow. So, David Ignatius, first of all what are your concerns about the fact that 25 recommendations were overruled by donald trump and his administration regarding security clearances that this Oversight Panel felt should not be handed out . Joe, i think this is a classic example, if its proven to be true, of executive overreach and manipulation of decisions. The process of granting security clearances is one of the most serious and sensitive things that the government does. Anybody who has to go through the process knows just how detailed it can be. For there to be these cases that so troubled this career security official that she has decided to be a whistleblower, to come to congress to talk about it tells you the seriousness of it. In these cases, the allegation is that the normal review process led to questions or an outright refusal to grant a clearance that was overruled by the president and those closest to him. That is the kind of thing that drives the intelligence agencies crazy, for them, you know, this is the absolute foundation on which they do their business. They have to trust the people who receive the information. Lives have been risked to get this information. So i think were going to hear a lot more about this. The specific individuals who are going to be called by ef Alija Cummings, whose documents have been requested include Jared Kushner, ivanka trump, we wrote this morning john bolton and others on that list. But this is one that people should take very seriously. Katty, its a dramatic story because of these 25, they raise specific concerns about some of them possibly being open to bla blackmail, bribery and other undue influences, that could impact decisions they made about americas National Security. Yeah, you may have during the course of an Administration One or two of these instances come up in the course of a normal administration where somebody is putt poured for security clearance, the officials come back and say we have problems about it and there is a problem with that one individual. I think the issue is there are 25 here and thats a lot of people put forward by the Trump Administration. You wonder why is the Administration People putting forward people on a regular basis, amid that that they may have does that make you look at the process from the president downwards make you think things are being repeated and perhaps not taking things very seriously, the possibility of blackmail or conflict of interest. And speaking of patterns that mute raise eyebrows, the list of people ef Alija Cummings is calling to his committee to gather evidence about the Trump Administration, there was a former next to every name. Former chief of staff reince priebus, former staffer hope hicks, former staffer steve bannon, former legal counsel, i mean on and on. Don mcgahn, these people owe donald trump no loyalty and they have seen, unless youre the president s son, what happens when you lie to congress. You get sent to jail. And also remember that a lot of this happened during the first year of the Trump Administration, which is when the president was having that particularly difficult time with Intelligence Community. As david points out, this is something that is going to raise a real red flag in the Intelligence Community. But i think the fact in a Elijah Cummings is calling these people, theyre from the early days of the Trump Administration also reminds us of the friction that there was between the Intelligence Community and this office. Its almost as if the Intelligence Community says about these people, what the system says about these people, the system that is designed to protect our country, i want these people in anyway. So to hell with the Intelligence Community, im going to do it my way. And thats really troubling. Mika, by the way, those subpoenas i understand are actually from the judiciary and jerry nadler. Got to get our subpoenas right here. Lets move over to politics for a second. Mayor pete raised 7 million. It was a big shock. He was not expected to do that well. And up also have big news coming out of Kamala Harriss camcampa. Yeah, announcing she raised 12 million from 218,000 individual contributors in the first two months of her president ial bid. Harriss campaign tells nbc news the average individual contribution in the First Quarter was 55. Thats higher than nor Bernie Sanders ofaverage donation of 0 and beto orourkes average of 47. Kamala harris said 98 of her contributions are under 100. I think this is a big moment. Yeah, this is great. This is a great moment. Jim vandehei, theres suddenly, you know, it used to be who got the bundlers, who got the big money and now were hearing who has the smallest donation. Its a race to the widows penny. You know, nothing but poor widows in the back of the church weeping handed me a penny and you raise that to the and i rai that together and i raised what are you saying . Its a good thing. Please, i hate to burst everybodys bubble and i hate to go against conventional wisdom because, my gosh, it sure is locked in on the left, but guess what money is money is money. Its not about money, its about money when youre running campaigns. So if somebody comes in and they raise 50 million a quarter and a lot of it comes from big money and bundler, that money spends like money. This is uncle joes fireside chat in the morning about money, this obsession about it has to be small. Yes, its very impressive that Bernie Sanders it raise 14 trillion with an average of but in the end you know what you need . You need money, jim. Im pretty clinical about this. To win elections, you often do knee money to run ads, to undercut your opponent, you often have to criticize them. So theres a lot to you now have several candidates. You have beto, you have her, Bernie Sanders, mayor pete, all of whom have been very impressive early on in different areas of the Democratic Party. Youre likely to have biden join in soon. Hell instantly be at the top of the poll despite the recent two allegations against him and all the coverage oflen is reporting Michael Bloomberg is rethinking whether he would run. He has something that joe was just talking about at scale, billions, literally has billions of dollars he could allocate if hes not going to get it in 25 incelts. From himself. Hold on. On this equal pay day, lets talk about money because it is always about the money. I try and tell women that every day. But Kamala Harris making 12 million benchmark here, average donation of 20 does show that shes hitting a nerve with people and in such a kroupd it had pao and it as big a news story as mayor petes 7 million, maybe bigger. Speaking of money, lets go to our money man Steve Rattner. First question, can i borrow some money . 20, absolutely. I think 20 million for Kamala Harris is great. Bigger bundlers havent jumped into the fray yet because Hillary Clinton raised much more, but in this crowded field, 12 million is a great number to put up on the board. Steve rattner, though, we still doesnt know as many reports said last newt how much money was spent going out to farm small donations. Ben carson raised all of this money but a ton of it of the was and youre going to basically fishing for these small donations so you can turn around and say look at all the small donations i got. Wee still dont know about 12 million, cam la harris, wouldnt you consider that to be pretty dan impressive . Its pretty dan impressive. Every cycle is different and this one will be no as you implied, there are going to be bragging points if your donation size is small. That said, there will be a role for bundlers, but the candidates are trying to minimize that for fairly similar political reasons, but whats really happening here is candidates are going through the lane that they can get through in terms of, raising a lot of small dollar money. Bernie sanders raising all of his money in small dollars. Kamala harris is being very clever. Shes still raising a fair amount of money from bundlers, but shes also got a great online prs pence if you go through all of her math, youll see you can divide it between o folks and so called offline folks. The guy who is going to surprise us i think is Bernie Sanders. He did say raising 900,000 from 2,000 contributors at 20. If you do the math, it 18 million dollars. Bernie sanders remains the most underrated and underreported candidate. How can that be in. People dont take him seriously. People arent talking about him as much. Theres a flash over here that everybody follows. I will say it dpen. Bernie sanders is the most underestimated, underreported candidate in this race, and i think steve is right with he releases his list of contribution ps, a lot of people that are going to be shocked that shouldnt shocked because bernies been there all along. Its only tuesday but candidate Pete Buttigieg has