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MSNBCW Morning Joe August 31, 2020

Series champion. Is it time to start fitting them for the world series rings, despite the fact they have the secondtolast worst record in baseball . I can feel those september breezes coming. Going to push them over the finish line. Joe, every four years we come out of the conventions wondering which candidate emerges with the big mo, its the Boston Red Sox, this time, joe. Two straight wins against the nationals. The grounds crew clearing space for a banner, this october wondering which exred sox star will get the bigger ovation, at fenway park, there wont be any fans, mind you, but still go with us. This is it, this is a turning point. This is the impossible dream. Like secretary going down the final stretch of the belmont in 73. These red sox are coming on, two wins in a row. Speaking of momentum, i do think that perhaps the president may have been a bit enraged yesterday morning after getting the ratings from his final night, but also the polling out of abc news, the Washington Post, showing that boy, his Approval Rating actually went down. And joe bidens went up over the two conventions. Well, his tweet storm showed he was reacting to something. We will get to the violence and unrest in portland in a moment but there is fresh new polling following both the democratic and Republican National conventions showing President Trumps favorability slipping while joe biden steadily climbs. In the latest poll, trumps favorability sits at 31 . 59 have an unfavorable opinion of the president. 46 hold a favorable view of biden, up six points since before the dnc. 40 have an unfavorable view of the former Vice President. And when looking at President Trumps handling of the coronavirus, 35 approve while 63 disapprove. Who are the 35 is all i want to know. Meanwhile, the latest Morning Consult polls show voters edging back. Joe biden holds a six point lead over President Trump, 50 to 44 . Thats down from the ten point lead he held heading into the convention on august 23rd. But the latest usc dornsife on friday found biden at 53 to trumps 41 . A margin of 12 points. So there you go. So Jonathan Lemire, a lot of people around the white house were thrilled with what happened during whatever you want to call last weeks rnc events. The polls actually a couple of polls showing within the margins that things may have gotten better for the president. But if you look at the abc news the Washington Post approval poll, Donald Trumps Approval Ratings went down, joe bidens went up. And i think considerably. Biden up 6 points and his unfavorability down 3 points. Which is showing to me at least coming out of this convention the story seems to be and i would guess that people inside the white house would be thinking this too. And they may not admit it to the president. But its got to be frustrating to them that despite the tens of millions of dollars in unfavorable ads thrown at joe biden over the past six months, despite the fact the president even got impeached over trying to pull in a ukrainian leader and hold defense spending over him to try to besmerj the reputation of joe biden, bidens numbers just keep going up as far as Approval Rating goes. Well have to start calling him teflon joe. Joe, i think it is striking in the last few days, democrats ive talked to, perhaps you have the same experience, there seems to be a collective freakout among democrats since the Republican Convention ended suggesting this race was hurding trumps way, but the polling doesnt really back that up, at least not yet. Some polls suggest perhaps Slight Movement towards the president. But remember joe biden walked into the conventions with a pretty substantial, and more importantly stable lead. There hasnt been much that has happened since the onset of the pandemic and certainly since the aftermath of George Floyds killing and the walk across Lafayette Square that has changed the fundamentals of the race. Yes, it has dipped and moved a little around the margins to this point. And both sides, privately, will acknowledge it has tightened somes, but both sides, privately and . Some cases publically, acknowledge joe biden is winning. And remember, he has a four, five, six seven lead in all the battlegrounds, save north carolina. The white house was pleased with the staging of the events last week. We are still going to see the aftermath of that in the coming days. What we dont know is how the events of kenosha and portland are going to change things. We know the president is traveling to kenosha, wisconsin tomorrow. Joe biden is going to speak on the unrest in america and how President Trump has added to that today in a speech in pennsylvania. And his aides are working on their own visit to wisconsin potentially later this week. Right now the race remains the same. Its on now as they say. Joe biden is resuming his campaigning. The president and his team are pleased about that. They feel they pushed biden out of his basement sooner than they wanted. They feel the more hes out of the basement could lead to a gaffe that could close the race. Maybe its closed slightly but joe biden is in the enviable position two months out. Hes winning. Here we are moving into september, things are plretty much the same. Please correct me if im wrong, it seems the only thirng thats changed if you look at polling since two weeks of conventions is Donald Trumps Approval Rating ticked down slightly and joe bidens went up a bit, hes sitting at 45, 46 Approval Rating. Those disapproving of him went down three points. Clearly joe biden rising with approval and the president coming down is bad news for the white house no matter how they spin it. Theyre now playing this, were in survival mode. Trying to spin it as if this is some advancement. The thing that i observed, joe, over the weekend, we had the big march in washington friday, which was probably the biggest civil rights march in the last several years. The energy, re remember we had this on a work day in the middle of a pandemic. So remember for people to come out is a signal to the white house that people are energized to come out and vote. They will come out and stand up and did it peacefully because the tone is set at the top, not one incident with several hundred thousands people there, and you have no problems, no incidents, and people ready to come and stay out all day. Thats a signal what they will do election day. So if i was the white house between the polling and the turnouts i think i would be very concerned because it shows a determination against this kind of divisive hate filled a atmosphere that this president has established. Yamiche, any ideas that the white house why the president melted down yesterday morning . He often melts down when things are going badly for him. But any idea why he melted down so badly sunday morning, firing off over 90 tweets starting before 6 00 a. M. . I dont think theres any official explanation for why the president ial does what he does on twitter, especially yesterday. I think the things weve been talking about likely are the things weighing on President Trumps mind. The idea that the reality tv president who sold himself as a showman, a deal maker, that he has lower ratings than the democrats must really get at him. When you think about what he risked to really put on this event at the white house that was, i think, troublintroubling interesting, remarkable and somewhat dangerous, i think he put it all on the line and hes put it all on the line with this idea if i do all this stuff, try to put the virus in the rear view mirror and say we are going to get through this, if i spread misleading information enough somehow americans will believe me over the facts, over my own Health Officials and as a result i will be able to be reelected. I think all of that is weighing on the president s mind. And i think there was this civil rights march that reverend sharpton was talking about, there was so many people on the president s doorstep telling him we dont like the way youre handling the virus and this racial reckoning. I think he understands the nation is coming to a head when it comes to civil rights issues. Black people are fed up, people of color understand they are being treated like second class citizens and white americans are waking up to the privilege they have and saying this is not right. I think were in a moment where everyone is recognizing, even if youre a supporter of President Trump youre recognizing hes struggling with his response to the coronavirus and hes not someone who has shown historically the empathy that people need in this moment when it comes to connecting with people who are reeling from the loss of so many black men or the shootings of so many black men. David, we look at the numbers of people that watched and Donald Trumps ratings on tv below joe bidens and Kamala Harris. Despite the fact that, as yamiche said, he had over 1,000 people commit this death defying act where they jammed together 1,000 to 1,500 people jammed together, no masks or very few masks on the same day over 1,000 americans died from the coronavirus and despite this high risk gambit, the president appears to be flat in the polls, his disApproval Rating goes up, Approval Rating goes down. Im curious on your thoughts on your defining moment where the president used the powers of his office the way autocrats do, and then risked the lives of thousands of people, if you multiply out the thousand people that were there. Joe, the white house is the most extraordinary stage in the world. And trump and his lighting artists and technicians set it off beautifully in a sense it was a classic donald trump act of selfishness to expose people to risks. To take that Sacred National monument and use it for his own purpose. I felt that donald trump had been in a free fall in the weeks before the convention. The story was his botched handling of the covid pandemic. The country, the poll numbers suggested, was scared by the way the president had mismanaged that crisis. And i think the importance of the convention is it stopped the free fall, the polls have been bouncing all over the place as weve been saying this morning, going in slightly Different Directions so we have to wait a few more days and weeks for them to sort out. But i think trumps downward motion probably stopped and hes now introduced the idea that the country should be scared not of this terrible pandemic and his utter inability to deal with it but know the country should be scared about violence in democratic controlled cities. Thats the theme and thats what theyre pushing hard. Im sure theyre going to talk in the show, how does joe biden, how does Kamala Harris respond powerfully to that so they dont let trump take that issue as rocket fuel for the last phase of the campaign and play to peoples fears about violence and disorder in the country. But for the moment i think that issue is replaced, the concern about covid is the dominant theme in the race and thats why trump has this seeming, at least if not a bounce, hes settled in a more table position. There is the issue of him manipulating the information to twist the fear, to use it for his own benefit. But right now weve got two really tangible ways that americans can see how their lives have changed. How they are less safe. How the president hasnt responded to something that he needs to respond to. First it was the coronavirus, which still continues and now its this violence and this hatred that seems to be kind of moving across the country in response to something that most people have a pretty visceral reaction to. Which is the treatment of africanamericans by police. Now the violence from this summer of racial unrest took another deadly turn. As supporters of the president made a show of force in portland on saturday. Police say a man was shot and killed after clashes throughout the day between protesters who have been there for months and supporters of the president who gathered as part of a 600vehicle caravan. There were reports of fistfights, video of Trump Supporters shooting paint ball and tear gas and protesters throwing things at the vehicles. Officials say the caravan drove around the city for hours. The president was supporting this. Police said the vehicle caravan had cleared the area already when the shooting occurred and it remains unclear weather or how the shooting was connected to the protests. The victim has not been identified yet but a photo from the scene showed him wearing a hat with a logo of a far right group based in oregon. The conservative Editorial Board of the wall street journal write wheres in a new oped, quote, mr. Trump would help portland and his own political cause a lot more if he called for calm on all sides. That includes his supporters, who rolled into portland for a counterprotest on saturday. According to news reports the man killed on the streets was wearing a hair for Patriot Prayer the right wing group that sometimes clashes with antifa. Mr. Trump should tell his supporters to stay basically from portland, kenosha and other cities where rioters rein. Mr. Trump mr. Trumps media opponents will take any opening they can to make alleged individual lantism the story rather than the failure of Progressive Democratic governance. Meanwhile, joe biden stating shooting in the streets of a Great American city is unacceptable. I condemn this violence unequivocally. I condemn violence of every kind by anyone whether on the left or the right. He went on to say we must not become a country at war with ourselves, a country that accepts the killing of fellow americans who do not dwroagree you. But that is the america that President Trump wants us to be. The america he believes we are. Its so interesting, mika, weve heard from donald trump and others and his supporters and some of the media who have said joe biden is not speaking out against the violence. Its ridiculous, theyre not listening or theyre intentionally ignoring the fact youre watching the counter programming. Joe biden has continued to speak out against the violence. Two things my friends on both sid sid sides. Take a deep breath, two things can be true at one time. There can be violence and chaos in portland, which was there before donald trump sent in the federal troops there while donald trump sent in the federal troops, and there after donald trump took out federal troops and was there before Donald Trumps people went in and started agitating the city. These things can be true at once and well talk to reverend al about it in a second. About all the pleas from reverend al and the naacp and jim clyburn and others to resist the violence that this undermines this undermines the cause of the 25 million, maybe 30 million marchers that have marched peacefully this year protesting the death of george floyd for black lives matter. But you know this whole thing mika where people say joe biden needs to say something. Listen, that comment yesterday was not the first time joe biden has spoken out against the violence weve seen across america. Despite what donald trump and a lot of republicans and some people in the media would have you believe, he said it before. Take a look. Theres no place for violence. No place for looting or destroying property or burning churches or destroying businesses. Many of them built by the very people of color who for the first time in their lives were beginning to realize their dreams and build wealth for their families. Nor is it acceptable for our police sworn to protect all people to resort to violence. We need to distinguish between legitimate protests and opportunistic violence and destruction. I said from the outset of the protests theres no place for violence or destruction of property. Peaceful protesters should be protected and arsonists and anarchists should be prosecuted. And local Law Enforcement can do that. When president obama and i were in office we protected federal property. We were able to do it without the department of Homeland Security turning it into a private militia. It can be done today, but that wouldnt help trumps political interest. Hes determined to stoke division and chaos. Its not good for the country. But donald trump doesnt care. His campaign is failing and hes looking for a political lifeline. This isnt about law and order, its about a political strategy to revive a failing campaign. Every instinct trump has adds fuel to the fire. Pro testing brutality is a right and necessary. But burning down communities is not protest. Its needless violence. Violence that endangers lives, guts businesses, shutters businesses that serve the community. Thats wrong. First of all i denounced it a long time ago, weeks ago. I made it clear from the beginning theres no justification whatsoever for violence, looting. As a matter of fact it flies in the face of the legitimate protests going on and takes away from the whole rationale for whats happening here. Ive condemned the violence from the beginning. The problem we have right now is were in Donald Trumps america. To quote kellyanne conway, she said, and im paraphrasing today, theyre looking for more violence and disruption because it helps them politically. He views this as a political benefit to him. Hes rooting for more violence, not less, and its clear about that. Whats he doing, pouring gasoline on the fire. This happens to be Donald Trumps america. Donald trumps america. Covid is out of control, hes not p

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