Delay because they dont want to face the people that are being affected by the law because they want to win their election. That should tell you everything you need to know about whats going on here and how people are perceiving it. The president s numbers are in the tank. Joining me is kentucky congressman john yarmuth. As a member of the energy and Commerce Committee and he was there for wednesdays hearing. Sir, great to have you with me. Politico has in print whats been pretty obvious all along, talking about gop sabotage. Quoting from the article saying the opposition was strategic from the start. Derail president Barack Obamas biggest am sbition and derail obama himself. The evidence, the bread crumbs of this trail is all there and a major part of that sabotage has taken place at the state level. Only 17 states are running their own exchanges and 26 have turned down medicaid expansion. Is state level obstruction the biggest obstacle to the aca being a success . I dont think theres any question about it. All you have to do is look at my state and california and new york and some of the states that have done their own exchanges and the sheerexperience has bee incredibly successful. We have 35,000 kentuckians enrolled in the first month. People who could not afford or did not have access to insurance before. We have another 25,000 or 30,000 in the application process. We have 400 businesses that have are trying to get insurance for their employees through the exchange. So in those states where the administration embraced the program, its been very, very successful and people understand very well the benefits of the Affordable Care act. Sir, as we get these numbers out, and obviously these numbers that are out today are nothing to shout from the rooftops as we get the health care websites first two days, these numbers are anemic. Honestly, theyre anemic. As we look, though, at massachusetts, an example from 0 s 06. Enrollment was slow there too, people procrastinating, signing up at the last minute. We fast forward to now and your home state of kentucky. It has emerged as a poster child for the south. We have more than 345,000 website visits, nearly 60,000 applications started and some 32,000 have enrolled. Why is kentucky working so well . Well, i think the governor made a decision very early on that we were going to do our own exchange, took advantage of the federal Grant Program to build the exchange, brought in very, very good people and made some very critical decisions early on that i think helped. One of them which the federal exchange didnt make was to allow people to browse the site and browse the plans without going through the application process. So to a certain extent we were lucky, but it was basically the commitment of the administration to make sure that it worked. When youre only dealing with one state and one set of providers and one set of insurance rules and one set of Insurance Companies, its a lot easier to make it go well than it is with 36, as the federal change is trying to do. There are a lot of articles trying to capture of the anxiety that democrats have. Were at the onemonth birthday today since the website launched. If these problems arent fixed by november 30th as promised, it seems the damage will be compound compounded. Are democrats starting to experience some serious anxiety about this new drop date . Well, i think some are. Some are always going to be anxious and paranoid. But and obviously there is a Political Risk here. If the site is not fixed, if people dont have access to the information and the exchange, the federal exchange, there is a Political Risk for many people. But im confident that these problems are going to get mixed and, you know, if they dont get fixed by november 30th, i think thats a real problem and we might have to look at extending the period for enrollment and maybe the penalties period. But i think over 30 days well see a marked improvement in the site. So this date denotes the onemonth birthday of the aca rollout and also 5 billion in nationwide food stamps cut goes into effect. What do you tell constituents that are worried about these cuts and know what this means, because they have been using this as part of their social safety net . Well, i tell them that is a tragedy and i tell them that the bigger threat right now is republicans efforts to cut 40 billion from the program over the next ten years. In my state, interestingly enough, theres six congressional districts. My state has the only significant minority population. We have the lowest utilization in my district of any of the six. The other five of all represented by republicans, and they all voted for that cut of 40 billion, even though their districts in hal rogers district in appalachia, one in four of his citizens are on food stamps. This is an incredible impact on the economy. For every 5 spent on food stamps theres 9 in the economy. So this is a very important social safety net for working families, seniors, disabled and poor children. So thats what i think we ought to be mainly concerned about is this plan to cut 40 billion over the next ten years because then the problem becomes very, very structural and long term. Sir, thanks for making time for me. I appreciate it. Joining me is former dnc chair howard dean. Sir, its good to have you with me now. You may have heard me talking with the congressman about the gop sabotage politico was talking about. Thats hardly a secret. Part of that campaign has been one of misinformation, being intellectually dishonest about how people are losing their insurance plans. Weve got a couple of articles out today. The l. A. Times says back in march they placed these plans in a category called Junk Health Insurance. Some plans may be worse than having none at all. So these points also make that the expecting Insurance Companies to play fair with their customers is as pointless as expecting dogs not to drink from the toilet. Talking points memo has the bottom line, almost all of them are going to receive the same or much better coverage and many will receive financial help to purchase it. Isnt this what republicans said that they wanted . This is based on a republican plan. This is making all of us be personally responsible for ourselves. Frank lly at this point the republicans are just political and nothing else. I find it best to ignore them entirely. This program will rise and fall not on what the republicans say or do, because actually their ratings are far lower than the president s. Its going to rise and fall on whether we can get this running properly or not and we have to focus on that and not pay so much attention to these whack jobs in congress who have forgot they need to serve the american people. Now, to get to your question, yeah, we did this 20 years ago. Some Insurance Companies left. Those were the Insurance Companies that were taking 50 of your Health Care Dollars and not spending it on health care. Those were the Insurance Companies that when you were a 35yearold and you got something really bad, they got rid of your policy. And those are the kinds of people who are losing their Health Insurance. They dont know that theyre losing something thats bad because they havent been sick. When you get sick and you have one of these policies that doesnt cover this, doesnt cover that and can be cut off, all of a sudden you find that indeed this is Junk Health Insurance and theres a fair amount of it. Thats one of the great things about obama care, hes going to get rid of that. Its only in those emergency situations that you find out how unprotected you really are when you try to get the coverage that youve been paying into. We have this article from the national journal, one of several calling into question the president s credibility as a result of the promises that he made about people keeping their insurance. Nicole wallace laid into spokesman jay carney over it. I want to play a small portion. The public believes your boss, and you know as well as i do when the public stops believing your boss, he is rendered impotent. So how do you make the public believe your boss when the two things that were said to reassure people, that they could cope their health plans and they could keep their doctors, turn out to be not true . So, governor, ezra klein puts this in perspective for us, a fascinating blame game with the problems. You can see where the arrows are pointing. So is the test of the gop and the sabotage and blame game going to be born out for democrats come 2014 . Well, that depends. I think right now the odds are with the democrats. I think the republicans have essentially eliminated their brand as a serious contention in american politics. Not to say theyre going to go away, theyre not. But nobody believes anything they say. The problem is weve got to deliver this. It has entirely to do with democrats. The republicans are irrelevant to this debate. They can make noise, pretend their outraged. Weve got to fix this and make it work properly. And my hope is that this november 30 deadline for getting this thing fixed is kept. These are hard things. In vermont we have our own exchange that hasnt worked as well as we thought it would work. It hasnt worked as well as kentuckys or californias, so a lot of the problem is the general problem in the tech industry. These rollouts are big and messy. Theyre messy in the private sector and the public sector. When you try to do 36 states, they really get messy. So the president s credibility is on the line. Again, i think the republicans are irrelevant in their baying at the moon and theyre silly and we all know that they were happy to shut down the entire economy of the world to get their way. Why Pay Attention to them. Lets focus on what we have to do which is fix the website, fix the program. Were probably going to need some paper backups. Weve got to get folks signed up. I dont think its a good idea to delay. I understand senators are worried about their reelection. Lets worry about health care an stop worrying about politics. November 30th will be here before we know it. Great to have you on, thanks so much. Thank you. Its being called shop and frisk. Barneys has until today to hand over its racial profiling policies to new yorks attorney general, and so far no dice. And this as opponents of new yorks stop and Frisk Program face a major setback. Michael skolnick will join me next. Plus a new book double down revealing juicy details about the 2012 election saying president obama considered replacing joe biden with Hillary Clinton on the ticket. The agenda panel will be all over that one. That topic also leads our big question for you this friday. Should president obama have swapped out vp biden for Hillary Clinton in 2012 . Weigh in, join the conversation on twitter and facebook. Clay. Mom . Come in here. Come in where . Welcome to my mom cave. Wow. Sit down. You need some campbells chunky soup before todays big game, new chunky cheeseburger. 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Still we have no word if they have officially received them. The New York Daily News reporting the two former security guards at barneys will meet as a part of this investigation. What do you think will be revealed, especially about the unsaid policies of how these stores may operate . I think its important for us to wait for the facts. The fact that barneys is saying they did not call the police, the point is somebody called the police. Whether it was a shopper, someone who works at the store, the police themselves, security guards, somebody called the police and racially profiled this young man and thought he was a thief. We have to get to the bottom of that. Where did that come from. Were seeing that across the city and a city policy of stop and frisk who is assuming that a young black person or latino person is already guilty before they commit a crime. I want to place this because reverend al sharpton met with barneys ceo this week. The rev says we should look at all players involved in these racial profiling allegations. I want to play a small part of what he had to say on morning joe. We must deal with the Police Department and these stores must deal with the Police Departments. If youre claiming its the cops, not us, then what are you saying to the cops . If the cops is saying its you, what are they saying to you . Were caught in the middle. Were caught in the middle here. How do you think that this is going to help elevate the conversation around how the Police Department responds to stop and frisk but also the problem of people being persecuted for shopping while black or people making some false assumption . Sure. Thomas, heres the thing. If we universally accept that what happened to that young man trayon stopped at barneys was wrong, i havent heard one person say what they did was the right thing to do. If we universally accept that, then whats happening to hundreds of thousands of young black and brown men across the city every year we should also accept as wrong. Theres no difference of walking out of barneys with a belt that you just purchased or walking down the street to buy a soda at the Convenience Store and being stopped by the police and aconsuming that youre a criminal. Stop and frisk is wrong, shop and frisk is wrong. Theyre both equally wrong. Jay z having highpriced lucks row items being utilized, the profits for a charity organization, how do you think hes handled waiting for the facts to come out, looking for the investigation to move forward because it seems as if he was pressured publicly to make a statement and enter into the dialogue taking place. How do you think he did . I think so many of our heros that have come from communities of struggle that have made it are expected to carry the weight of so much that we wear and carry ourselves as a society. 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