A new nbc news wall street journal poll shows clinton and trump in a statistical tie. Clinton continues to still fight for her partys nomination. I am going to be the nominee, and i want to spend a lot of my time, as youve seen me do, really take on trump. I find what he says, the kind of candidacy hes presenting to pose a danger to our country. Bernie sanders shows no signs, meantime, of bowing out of the race, instead touting himself as the candidate to beat trump. I think the objective evidence is very clear, that in virtually every National Poll and every state poll, we defeat trump by larger numbers than does secretary clinton. Our Political Team has all of the angles of this race covered on your monday. Were going to kick things off with katy tur, whos outside trump tower. Not getting a lot of information there from senator corker. I know you were trying to coax a little bit more out of them. What are we hearing about what was discussed and more about the meeting . Well, corker said it was very generalized and couldnt get into specifics. Some aides are saying that this was just a simple meet and great, a courtesy call. Kind of how corker described it as well. Other aides are saying he is certainly pretty high on the list when it comes to vp possibilities. He does fill a lot of the holes that donald trump doesnt have in his experience right now. And i pressed corker on a number of things, including on the muslim ban. He had come out against the muslim ban. I wondered today since they were speaking about Foreign Policy if perhaps that would come up. Take a listen to how he answered that. Did you speak to him about the muslim ban . We did not talk about that. Reporter i know youve come out against it. Was that part of the conversation at all . We talked bigger picture. Really relative to Foreign Policy, domestic issues that matter a great deal. About how the campaign is unfolding. It was more of a you know, we had never talked other than on the phone, and more of a sort of get to know each other. Reporter youre the highest ranking republican leader to actually visit donald trump on his home turf since he became the presumptive nominee, perhaps this entire campaign. Its certainly setting off some Vice President ial rumors. I dont think thats reporter why would you make the trip here if it was just a hi, hello . I was up here last monday meeting with Henry Kissinger, and im in new york a good deal. And, you know, i think its certainly worthwhile to sit down and get to know the nominee in a little bit different way, and we did that today. Reporter senator corker was in trump tower for a little over an hour, and there is a lot of speculation right now that he could be a possible vp pick, because he fills those hellos, as i just mentioned a moment ago. One of them is the fact that hes a chairman of the Senate Foreign relations committee, so he would help donald trump when it comes to Foreign Policy. Hes also a legislator, somebody whos known to get deals done in congress, even as its been mired in gridlock. These are two major things that donald trump does not have in his experience belt, if you will, and its two things that could potentially help him on the ticket. Katy turf for us outside trump tower. Thank you, as always. Kasie hunt is following the Clinton Campaign, she joins us now live from detroit. We played a little bit of sound there just off the top. Some of the remarks that we had heard from Hillary Clinton a little bit earlier. Whats her message today as shes trying to win over support here . Reporter hi, erica. You heard her talk a little bit there about donald trump and the minimum wage, saying that she knows what she believes donald trump doesnt, which is that the country needs a raise. Minimum wage has become an issue both between her and republicans, but also her and rival Bernie Sanders, which, of course, has been overshadowing clintons efforts to turn and focus on donald trump. Shes, of course, here at the Seiu International convention, and shes going to were waiting for her, according to aides, to talk about his immigrationrelated comments and how he would not, in their words, be good for immigrant families. But in the meantime, shes fighting this battle with Bernie Sanders. And the new poll shows you just how close this has become. Clinton aides tell me that they believe she has a couple more points on donald trump, but theyre not showing up right now because a lot of democrats just havent come home, and they think thats happening with Republican Voters that are consolidating behind trump, and thats why you see this closing so much. But, of course, thats a bigger problem for Hillary Clinton, because as you heard her tell our chuck todd over the weekend on meet the press, she doesnt want Donald Trumps candidacy to become, quote unquote, normal. So their effort is to make it seem like hes more of a reality tv start over a president ial candidate. But when those polls come out, its a much tougher sell, erica. Kasie hunt for us at that event with Hillary Clinton. Thank you. Meantime, our new nbc news wall street journal poll, it does show this dead heat. Donald trump and Hillary Clinton basically tied in this headtohead match when you factor in the margin of error. Mark, you always have great takeaways here. I know you have three main points. One of them actually, we just heard kasie bring up, the Clinton Campaign really trying to sell this idea that well, you know, partially these numbers are probably because republicans are coalescing around donald trump. Would you agree with that . Yeah, erica. Two forces are at play. Republicans are starting to rally around donald trump, given that hes the republicans presumptive nominee. In our poll last month, 72 of republicans were backing donald trump in a matchup against Hillary Clinton. Now its 86 . So that number is actually bumped up a little bit. The second takeaway, the democratic race is still ongoing and theres still some fissures on the democratic side. While so Many Democrats are still backing Hillary Clinton, only 66 of Bernie Sanders supporters are backing her in a headtohead matchup against donald trump. That means the other third is either voting for trump or that they are undecided, and Hillary Clintons goal is to be able to get many more of those people up to be able to boost her polling numbers in the months ahead once the democratic race concludes. And then, erica, the third point overall is that you end up having that the democrats still think this has been a good and healthy process. Our latest, we just released this number at noon, our nbc wall street journal poll found that by a 21 margin, democrats say the whole long process going through june, having Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton battling it out, has been good for the party rather than bad. Those numbers were reversed almost back in 2008 between barack obama and Hillary Clinton. So even though if Hillary Clinton hasnt been able to unify the entire party, most democrats, or a lot of democrats are saying this long process has been good for them and their party. Always interesting to see the different takes on it. Mark murray, appreciate it as always. Thanks. Its been a rallying cry for both Bernie Sanders and donald trump, that their partys respective primary processes are rigged. Sanders repeating that claim only days ago, suggesting his 700plus delegate deficit is proof that the system is fixed. 93 of the super delegates in the democratic establishment have gone to secretary clinton. And what is even more unbelievable is that over 400 of these super delegates indicated their support for secretary clinton before anyone else was in the race before the first ballot was cast. Ben ginsburg, always good to see you. Were going to broaden it out. Were going to get your take on the republicans and the democrats, too. When we hear senator sanders say things like that, when we hear donald trump or see donald trump tweeting out saying he thinks the system is rigged against Bernie Sanders, thats not entirely surprising, because that could only help donald trump in many ways, to try to make people feel less disenfranchised. How, though, is this message resonating with voters to this point . I suspect the conversation about being the system being rigged is over among Republican Voters. Victor has a way of doing that. Its really interesting on the democratic side. What Bernie Sanders is referring to is the over 700 super delegates that democrats have. Now, whats interesting about the super delegates is that they represent the Party Establishment in an antiestablishment year. The problem for Hillary Clinton going into the convention is that in pledged delegates, delegates actually won, Bernie Sanders is probably going to end up within a couple hundred delegates of her. So it is the party elites, the Party Establishment who are tilting it for Hillary Clinton, and the trap door for her, that must be animating her people is that super delegates really are not necessarily pledged to Hillary Clinton, but to the maintaining of power of the Democratic Party. The more they see polls like your nbc wall street journal poll, the more those super delegates think this is a potential problem for us. They are not bound to Hillary Clinton. And if the polls keep going down, shes got to worry what happens on the floor of the Democratic Convention in philadelphia. How much does this come into play moving forward . As you say, things are quieting down on the republican side now that there is a nominee. But could some what weve been hearing, could this influence changes to compost2016 . I think that people who want the nomination of both parties and both current candidates think about 2020. If youre on the republican side, were likely to have a disagreement about whether our primary should be opened or closed. Donald trump did really well, attracted independents into the Republican Party. Some other candidates who were probably interested in 2020 would like to keep it a core republican process. On the democratic side, if Hillary Clintons nominated, shes going to want to keep super delegates because theyre the establishment. Yet Bernie Sanders fighting at the convention will probably want to get rid of them. Really quickly, want to get your take, ben. As katy tur pointed out for us, senator bob corker is the highest ranking republican to make the visit to new york to meet with donald trump. They met for a little over an hour. What are you taking away from that . Even just as a visual. Well, the official is its good for donald trump to be meeting with people from washington and from the party who have knowledge. Did it with james a. Baker iii. Did it with Henry Kissinger. Did it with bob corker. There is a theme of the sort of deans of the republican Foreign Policy establishment. Corker as vp . Yea . Nay . Certainly could be. Donald trump has said in the past that he wants somebody with experience, who he can see taking over the office. Bob corker is knowledgeable, more knowledgeable than most about Foreign Policy and a member of the senate who knows how to get things done. Msnbc political analyst ben ginsburg, appreciate your time, as office. Thanks. Our latest nbc news wall street journal poll reveals 47 of voters say they would consider a third Party President ial candidate in november. 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This is the second of six officers who are charged in regards to what happened to freddie gray. This was a fiveday bench trial. Judge Barry Williams saying essentially that the officer had no credible facts to show that he was directly involved in grays arrest. Interestingly enough, erica, the attorney for freddie grays family, billy murphy, was giving credit to judge williams. Take a listen. You cant knowledge judge williams after hes done essentially a Public Service in not only ruling, but explaining in great detail every basis for his ruling. How can anybody dispute that this officer did not have and that the public did not have a wellilluminated absolutely fair process that led to this result. Reporter so right there, the attorney saying the process was wellilluminated and fair. Also giving credit to the judge for ruling fairly in this case, not trying to pass any judgment on the other charges that will be thrown. Those trials get under way throughout the course of the year. And you sort of set the scene, when we first began speaking, you talked about, of course, the riots that we saw last year this is a much different situation today, and in many ways, this, in fact, is a finding that was expected. So it has been pretty calm throughout the day, correct . Reporter yes, and its similar to what happened with officer porter, is that when you saw the case play out in the courtroom and the media reports, you realized the difficulty, what it takes to prosecute a case like that. A gentleman thought this was a joke. Hes upset about it. In regards to the community reaction, we havent seen the level even what i covered the porter trial, there seemed to be more protest around the white house for that one. This one for the most part is relatively calm. I think part of that can be played up because of the rain. And also because the local leaders have gone out of their ways to say this is the justice process. This was why these officers were charged. This is playing out in the open. We still have more trials to go. Let justice take its course throughout the year. Luke stay with us, i want to bring in ari. This is the first verdict from one of the cases against the six officers. Not the first case. The first verdict, as we know. How does this, could this in any way impact those other cases moving forward . As you mentioned, five cases to go. In theory, it doesnt have to affect anything at all because each case could be on the merits an