Notified and on our way. Also the devastating 6. 2 magnitude earthquake that took place in italy last night. More than 70 people killed. Weve got reports on the ground and at this hour, donald trump expected to speak in tampa, florida, at a rally. Were going get to all of that in a moment, but first, i want to go back to what we were covering at the top. Our own matt bradly is monitoring that attack in kabul, what do we know right now . Thats right, stephanie. Nbc news is hearing from senior u. S. Intelligence officials that attackers have indeed penetrated the walls of this heavilyguarded university compound and they are now inside. And this is what we referred to as a complex attack. Multiple gunmen, using multi. Means of attack including bombs and small arms. The skufrts security are engaging the attackers, but we have no word yet on casualtyings. Ofg, local Afghan Forces are also engaging the attackers,
that will be forthcoming. Youll remember, this is the Second Attack on this university in as many weeks. Just two weeks ago, two foreign instructors an american and australian were abducted from their cars as they were returning home federal classes. Neither of those men have been found. All of this coming against a backdrop of increasing threats against foreigners in afghanistans capital. Just in the past few years, aid workers, Development Personnel and journalists have withstood an increase in assassinations, kidnappings, bombings, all in the heart of central kabul, stephanie. Does that mean no place is safe . Well, central kabul used to be haven of stability, especially for the people trying to do their work outside of kabul. You know, these development workers, diplomats, and now it seems as though that sense of security has been badly frayed. Given that its badly frayed, but havent asked regarding this attack, overall, what do they need . I mean the fact that you mentioned just two weeks ago, those two professors were kidnapped and they havent been
found. What do they need most here . Well, they need stability. And of course this is the beating heart of the government, the u. S. , the u. S. Implemented government in afghanistan. Without stability there, none of the diplomats, none of the government offices, none of them can do their work and theyll have very little hope of trying to impose order only the rest of the country which is also becoming quickly undone. All right, matt baggily, thank you for joining me. I want to the now turn to msnbc news editor, cal perry who joins me, cal, lets talk about this region, specifically central kabul. What is it like there in terms of security . One would make the argument, its one of the most secure areas. Certainly this area of kabul, this university specifically as well as the e u. S. Embassy are well guarded for obvious reasons. These are compounds. We heard matt baggily talking about a complex attack. Usually that is to create a breach in the wall, thats what happened. Gunmen then flowed on to the campus and are being engaged by Security Forces. While matt was talking, he heard from nato. Nato has a number of advisors they say quote a small number of nato advisers are on the scene. And advisory role, not in a combat role, but advisory role. And this is the key across the country, right, weve turned now into at visors from what we were in combat for many, many years. There are of course still u. S. Special forces op the ground across afghanistan in a combat role. The goal is to get the army up and functioning and the problem that you have is the taliban continues to hit high profile targets like this one. A place of education, a place that educates women, especially lit this campus has a 5,000 square foot brand new facility that is dedicated towards womens education. So these kind of attacks, this kind of coverage is exactly what the taliban is going for. Tell us a bit more about this school as you said, they have a new facility. They do educate women there, who else goes there . 1rkz 700 students. Thats the student body. Thats just the people that go there during the day. Its an international student
body, but at night when this attack took place. A number of people welleducated individuals, usually with jobs from the city of kabul go to this university. So its not just people that are part of that main student body, theres this extra group of people, including journalists, theres an ap photographer who is on the campus when that this attack happened. Hes there doing classes at night. Its a diverse body, but certainly, listen, when you look at what is a high profile target, its a western target. The one good thing about that for the people on this campus, its a wellguarded campus. So hopefully whoever made it on to that campus, whether its a gunmen or gunman are being engaged by the Security Forces away from those buildings where students live. Thanks, cal. Joining me now, retired four star general Barry Mccaffrey who is now an nbc military analyst. General, help us understand. Know that we know the attackers are inside, what do u. S. Forces need to do to make their way in . Well of course u. S. Forces are not in any way playing the
dominant security role in afghanistan. It was around 10,000 nato troops will primarily doing air power, logistic, intelligence, some direct action operations, and stephanie, theyre not a combat role. I was wound ed unfortunately we have lost the general. Were going to turn back to him in just a few. Were covering this attack that took place in kabul. 7 00 p. M. Kabul time. Thats about eight hours ahead of us. It is a complex attack really still going on. Were going to show images of that right now. This is a private American University in kabul. I want to bring in now a guest were bringing in a man at the university when the explosion happened. He is now at home. S at the time he helped students out of the building. Hes joining me now via phone,
good evening, thank you for joining me, im glad youre safe. Please, tell us a bit more about the attack, where were you . I was exactly inside the plaza. So, this attack happened, it was a hard exclusion. Even though i exactly dont know in which location, but it was very close. And so then after a while, shots started, bullets started to exchange. So that was unfortunately we tried to get out. And yeah, and on our way [ inaudible ] we had to take them to the hospital. So through an emergency gate, they got out of there. I dont know what happened further. You know when you said you heard shots, did you see any of the gunmen . There was a lot of exchange of bullets, you know, and that was seems to be the security and then the other people inside, so yeah, we heard a lot of bullets exchanged. Do you feel safe now that you are home . How far do you live from the university . My house is almost nine, ten kilometers from the university. So yeah, that is where we live. Nine or ten kilometers, so do you feel safe where you are now . Thank you very much, yes, im fine, im fine. Thank you for joining us. He was there at the university who actually brought some people to a local hospital. I want to the bring back the general mccaffrey. General mccaffrey, can you hear me . Yeah, loud and clear. You were saying just before i lost you, we were talking about advisors, and you said that was
ironic to you. Yeah. Well, you know, i think all of these nato forces, probably around 10,000 of them are in combat roles. Now they may be carrying out advisory duties, the air force is there doing direct bombing, scraping runs. Theres intelligence collection, theres special operation groups doing direct action counterterrorism roles. This is clearly combat mission. And u. S. Troops get killed and wounded in these actions. I think the term is inappropriate to say theyre not in a combat role. Well, we know that theyre in a dangerous situation. General mccaffrey, thanks for joining me. Were going to continue to cover this story. This attack as we get more breaking news. But i want to turn now to the other breaking news overseas in italy. The death toll has now risen to at least 73 after 6. 2 magnitude earthquake struck italy overnight. Making matter worse, strong aftershocks are being felt in towns that are already buried in
rubble. Officials are pleading for blood donations as they continue the search for survivors at this hour. Bill neily joins us now via phone from italy, one of the hardest hit cities. Bill, the mayor of that town said there is nothing left. Its completely decimated. Talk to us about what its like there now. Well, i think on the main street, the main drag through thaw town that is correct. Its not that theres nothing left, but every single building has been either destroyed or so badly damaged it will have to be pulled down. But im walking, you know, along another street, every second building is damaged. I can bring you back up to date were seeing the death toll. Ive just talken to a colonel in the italian corps of engineers who says the death toll in and around the area alone is now at 86, 86. Thats a considerable increase. I did see some people being
pulled out of the rubble just within the last hour. Its not all bad news. There are some survivors who are being pulled out. One man who was pulled out just a couple of hours ago, hed been pinned by the leg, but, you know, it takes a long time. To free every single individual. This earthquake hit, if you like, at the worst possible time, at 20 to 4 00 in the morning when the entire town was asleep. The 6. 2 earthquake hit two other towns, but this is the one that has the highest death toll and that is most badly affected. I mean some buildings and standing in front of one now. Its hard to see any signs that this was ever, you know, an Apartment Building because all you can see are huge lumps of concrete. There isnt any sign of life, there isnt sign of a bed or a table or a chair. This all just been crushed and buried by dozens of tons of concrete. The pope today has been praying for the area. Based on the work that he quartered right at the beginning, the mayor says theres just nothing left of this place. So this is the time thats physically broken, but also i think psychologically broken as well. The pope is praying as people are from around the world, talk too us about where the survivors are. As the mayor said, the town is wiped out, the buildings there are centuries old. Those who have survived, are they in makeshift shelters . Where have they gone . Yeah, theyre actually waiting rather impatiently to tents to come through. The roads are clogged with rescue vehicles. Bulldozers. With fire couriers and so on. I think getting the essential in here, its proving difficult. Its only less than 24 hours
since the earthquake hit. Not every building here is damaged, but the people of the area do not want to spend this night in damaged buildings because there have been over it 40 aftershocks. Some of them, one of them as big as 5. 1 on the richter scale. That is quite enough to bring down a building. That is already been weakened by the earthquake. So the people to want stay outdoors, fortunately, its mild summer weather. Anyone who was a tourist, and there were plenty of tourists in this town has gone. But we dont know the nationality that those involved. We suspect that most people here whove died are italian, but we still dont have any breakdown of casualty because the people themselves dont know whos dead and whos alive. And one fairly chilling thing, just near the main street, there is a strip of ground where they are laying out the bodies one by one in a line under blanketings and sheets and people are going there to identify their loved
ones. And you can only manage the scene there. Absolutely horrific. Well bill, please stay safe, essential lit as the risk of aftershocks continue. Bill neily, joining us from italy, the town, the village that was hit hardest during last nights earthquake of 6. 2 in central italy. We have to turn back to u. S. Politics. Donald Trump Holding a rally in tampa, florida, more on his latest attacks on Hillary Clinton. You are watching msnbc live. The right things working together can give you an advantage. Like trubiotics with immune support advantage. Its unique formula supports immune health in two ways. With probiotics that work in your gut. And antioxidants that work throughout your body. Trubiotics from one a day. Using 60,000 points from my chase ink card i bought all the framework. Wire. And plants needed to give my shop. A face. No one will forget. See what the power of points can do for your business. Learn more at chase. Com ink
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causing grief for the clintons and falls right in line with Donald Trumps paytoplay attacks. It is impossible to figure out where the Clinton Foundation ends and the state department begins. It is now abundantly clear that the clintons set up a business to profit from public office. They sold access and specific actions by and really for, i guess, the making of large amounts of money. By our account, there were over 1700 other meetings that she had. She was secretary of state, she was meeting with foreign officials and government officials constantly. So to pull all of them out of equation, cherry pick a small number of meetings is pretty outrageous. Well, the ap story takes a close look at the people who met with Hillary Clinton while she
was secretary of state. It says more than half of the people outside government she met with, 85 of 154 in all, did give money to the Clinton Foundation. Were going to take an in depth look at this issue of the Clinton Foundation, but i want to start with jacob rascon, he is trailing the Trump Campaign in tampa, jacob, no doubt donald trump is going to take this Clinton Foundation line and hit it the hard. Reporter he already has. In the last couple days, this is a threat to democracy, this is like a third world country. This ap story fits very perfectly into the argument that trump has been trying to build for a year now about the rigged washington system that hes trying to break up. That he says hes uniquely qualified to break up. In fact, thats a very interesting aspect of trumps argument because he admits that he was part of that rigged system, in fact, he donated to the Clinton Foundation, he got what he wanted, thats why he donated. And so he says that he is
uniquely qualified in that sense to now break up the rigged washington system. He was asked last night about whether he was going to truly try to make this election now about him versus Hillary Clinton, he says, indeed he was. Weve seen that over the past week and change that hes given now six or seven prompter speeches in a row at rallies. Hes expected to do that again in tampa. Hes running a little bit late here, but this again fittings perfectly into his argument and hes hoping to hit that even harder. Hell probably continue to do that until election day. All right, jacob, we have to turn now to kasey hunt, shes in los angeles with the clinton campaign. I know theyre coming off a fancy Charity Fundraising event in l. A. , something Hillary Clinton gets criticized for, but today they are defending themselves, firing back against these claims on the foundation. What are people inside telling you now . Reporter thats right, steph. Hillary clinton herself has been really behind closed doors for the past couple of days, raising
money in california today shes up in silicon valley, something with tim cook, the ceo of apple. Yesterday in l. A. , she was here with a number of celebrities, Justin Timberlake and jessica biel. But this really has this ap story has gavlvanized the clintn campaign, they are arguing that the ap story doesnt give the full context. It doesnt use essentially the right set of data or people who met with her and pointing to donald trump himself what jacob was just talking about. His donation to the Clinton Foundation back in 2009 when she was secretary of state and also saying theres a double standard here and thereve been republicans who have been running for office who have also had family connections to charity, and they havent been held to account for it the same way that the trump team is trying to hold clinton to account for this. Look at how brian fallon, her spokesman defended Hillary Clinton today on andrea
mitchell reports. We did not see similar questions raised or attacks launched against George Hw Bush who launched the points of Life Foundation after his presidency. You did not see attacks waged on bob dole while his wife was running the International Red cross, and rightfully so because these are charitable organizationings doing important work and the idea theyre pulling back and forth and used as weapons for attacks, thats completely absurd and beyond the pail. That of course the way theyre defending this. The parallel is not 100 exact necessarily because, of course, this foundation was taking donations from foreign and corpor