And the world death toll is over 106,000. And despite new cases of the virus, lifting a stay at home order could lead to quote a deadly resurgence. This brings us to the decision that President Trump faces. What he acknowledge sts biggest decision he will have to make. When to lift the coronavirus redirection strixs. He has been asked how he will make the life or death vujudgme. I want to get it open as soon as we can. We have to get the country open. What mettics will you use . The metrics right there. That is my metrics. That allky do. And doctor anthony faump cci echoed concerns with the deadline set to expire april 30th. I hope that we have a degree of reality. That is my interest as a Public Health person. All 50 states, the district of columbia and the u. S. Territories are under a declaration of covid19. Had is the first time in major history that a major disaster deck lar rare is nationwide. In new york, the number of deaths continue to rise. Governor cuomo says number of hospitalizations continues to go down. New york state has more than 173,000 cases with 783 people dying in the last day alone. New yorks death toll is more than 8,600. Governor cuomo warned new yorkers about the dangers of political conspiracy after when the state should or should not reopen. And he denounced bill de blasios statement when he said schools should close until next year. He said he wants to close them until june. He may do that but in a coordinated sense with other localities. It makes no suense to make one close sure that is not in coordination with others. Is that valid . Well, he cant close them or reopen them. It happened on a metropolitan basis. Lets go to alexa who is outside an e. R. In downtown manhattan. Clearly, the two elected officials on different pages, and mayor de blasio responded in the last hour in a conversation with reverend al. Bring us up to date. Thats right. Two very mixed messages from this morning and we just heard from mayor bill de blasio earlier. Him, doubling down on his position and says his responsibility is to educators and students. And having the authority to run the new York City School system. There is a lot of confusion on where authorities stand. Considering the governors message, needing coordination across the state and ultimately, the families wonder what is going to happen in the next month. Alexa, the good news for folks in the e. R. Behind you, the number of hospitalizations is going down, has continued to go down. But the number of deaths is still going up. And Funeral Homes have been overwhelmed. What is being done about that, alexa . Chris, from the Funeral Directors i have spoken to, they talked to me about a system that is jammed, a system that is overwhelmed and they talked s k specifically an about how difficult it is for families, more and more, going through the grievi grieving process without being able to go with extended family and friends. I spoke with one family here, in manhattan, bill ville movanova. They are in their darkest hour, the most difficult time. We are there to help them. Whether its holding their hand or hugging them when theyre crying, to do when they are in trouble, in hurting. Chris, they talked about using technology and cameras to try to bring in extended family into the process. And of course its just not the same. We appreciate you being throughout and reporting for us. And the governors and Health Experts worrying about the uncertainty, President Trump is clearly looking an at droppingest mant estimates. Im going to surround myself with the greatest minds, not only the greatest minds but the greatest minds in numerous different businesses including the business of politics and reason. And were going to make a decision. I want to bring in my panel, dr. E ezekiel emmanual. Chair of medical ethics and Health Policy at the university of pennsylvania, former herlt policy adviser to the white house. Peter baker of the new york times, and msnbc analyst. Ani ani anita kumar from politico. Peter, the president said this is the biggest decision he will ever have to make. And leads us to the question. Does he have to clue what he is likely to do . Its a great question. The business of politics and reason are not necessarily the same business. He is tugged in lots of different directions, and he is tugged by advisers looking at the economic devastation. He has 17 Million People an as a result olt of of pandemic, and a direction of Health Experts saying that the reason the death projection has gone down isnt because you succeeded. Because if you let up the gas, if you let up dr. Faucis term, you will be right back to where you started. A new protection that my colleagues on stained yesterday, the department of health and Human Services know show if the to lift the restrictions by the end of april, as the president is talking about, we could be back to where we are in july with the same problem. That is the factor that the president takes into account. Earlier this month, huh a group to come up with a plan to end the crisis, im going to summarize it here quickly. A National Stay at home policy for mid may, ramping up testing in in a big way and comprehensive contact tracing. Is there any uniform, starting now, where you see us talking about reopening the country at least to start reopening the cub at the end of the month the . No. First of all, im even skeptical that they will have the right infrastructure in may. May wasnt the date we picked out of nowhere. Mid may is a date that is related to the decline in number of cases getting down to a specified number, which is basically the south korea number of 20 new cases of population per million. And an infrastructure that had sufficient testing. And we are doing about 100 to 130,000 tests a day. The minimum estimate is 500,000. I have a higher estimate of about 1 million. But were, you know, four times we need to increase the number of tests we do four fold before we have enough infrastructure and were not at real Contract Tracing using your cell phone or other items. Is an area where i think the community has let us down. We should be able to have a technology that does dont to commercialization. It allows people to know they have been in contact with someone who tested positive. We dont have that. So i think just as the protections say, we let up by the end of april, we will have a big flare and explosion of of coronavirus cases and we will have to lock down again unless we overwhelm the medical system and just have tens of thousands more deaths. The fact we have been able to bring down the projected deaths from 100,000 to 50,000 is not locked. Its the physical distancing. Take it away and you will pop up the death rate, the number of people who have coronavirus and that logic, the fact that what were seeing now, the good news were seeing now for the result of the actual practices of Public Health community. Physical distancing, wearing a mask in public, hand washing, and the rest, it doesnt seem to factor in the people that want to run into opening the economy, open the economy. We will close the economy again. And let e me remind you of one point. Singapore tried to open the economy, and last friday, eight days ago, they had to reshut down with schools and no nonessential businesses another month. Its very hard to do this. And you can only do it if you have the right infrastructure. The president is making a decision the experts say we dont have the data points we need to make the decision. So hes going to make the task force. Do we know anything about it beyond what he said, hes going to get together great minds in all the different areas . Right, well, he said he would be announcing it tuesday. But he said there would be doctors on there, people from different hospitals. He was going to ask some governors and he mentioned Business Leaders. I think what he is going to find is same thing he is finding right now, which is when he talks to Public Health expers, they say, lets wait a little longer, and Business Leaders tell him he is going to do it sooner rather than later. He is going to be torn once again. Not that long ago, he should we will be open by easter which we know is tomorrow. What he doesnt want is to have to on go back and say a date and say, well, no, i was wrong about that date again, and backtrack. He very much doesnt want to open things up again, as he likes to say, and then have to say, oh, i was wrong. I change my mind. Weve got to go back to where we were. So he is really cognizant of a fine line here. He doesnt want to have a plan and have to backtrack on that. He is going to weigh those things but he will be hearing from the Business People one side and the health expers on the other. They just differ on this. Peters paper talked about when should we restart america, for a lack lof of a better phrase. Larger gathers, conferences, when people say they are going to reschedule for october 2020, i have no idea how they think that is applausible possibility. I think those things will be the last to return. Realistically, we are talking fall 2021 at the earliest. Zeke, fall 2021 . Is that how long we should be preparing before we get back to normalcy . So, that those large gathering, sporting e events, concerts, conferences, conventions, those large events have lots of people where you can no social distance. And one person who has no symptoms with covid19 walks in, can infect 250 or so people at one fell swoop. They are a perfect petri place for spreading the virus lively. Its no just me who thinks they are the last to open. The president of the boston Federal Reserve said the exact same thing. They are definitely going to be the last things that can open and i dont think how they can open before we have a vaccine at the earliest, fall of 2021. I think im being realistic about that possibility. They are people of all ages and some people with comorbid continues, heart busy, problems that put them at very high risk. So i think what i said, a realistic possibility. And people, part of the problem is, were talking about opening up the economy in a month or two. And people dont realize that has to be phafazed very slowly you have to be sure you have the right fa from a structure. You have to have a fair amount of social distancing. Maybe its treatments and a good vaccine. Then up we can go back to normal. We are not going to be precovid normal until the fall of 2021 at the earliest. And people who talk about conferences in the fall of 2020, dont know arent really being realistic. And its not just zeke emmanuel. And the internal hhs documents and the White House Task force documents say 18 months also. There is a sort of contradiction in the communication where the president wants to say, oh, we can open up like everythings going to be precovid. That is not going to happen. So peter in a story you cowrote, to bring it full circle, something i think will be the biggest challenge for the argument zeke just made and others made. The aides say that the president has have decreased projection. Is there indication he is losing confidence in dr. Burks or dr. Fauci or the Business People have his ear more. What are you hearing . Its a matter of which hour it is, which day it is, and he fluctuates up and down, no question he has been frustrated at times with his Public Health advisers. He sees them as being overly pessimistic. I think some people in white house staff view the Public Health people as having taken the public hostage. They were the only ones to have a say in it that is frustrating to them. They think there are other factors to take in consideration a gdp drop up to 30 . And there is a debate, and its the imperatives that dr. Emmanual puts throughout are the most compelling. They involve the life and death. They force a president to the confront it. How much economic trouble can you stomach versus, you know, what point do you let people back in, with idea you are going to perhaps go a second way, and people are going to die if you he will up too easily. Should you be sure to remind us, the president doesnt make the decision by himself. He is not the one who shut country down. The governors have done that, and it may be if he were to say next week, lets reopen may first, they will relisten to them. And we we a minute left. I dont want to go away and without mentioning that a couple of your colleagues spoke to nancy pelosi. She warned the president about reopening the cub, and the session will return this month . They are hearing the same this month. From Public Health experts. They also at an impasse on the next recovery bill. They want to get more aid to hospitals, and governors. And you will see, the doctor just said, a lot of things will not be happening that we thought were. A Perfect Panel for today. 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Jen, new thow that we know candidates, i have been pondering the question with no good answer. What does the next two month or two look like . There is no play look like that. I cannot point to any precedence. But i think that there will be builtin advantaging for bide than are not obvious. First of all, if we were not in the situation we are in, where everyone is quarantined and if he to fight from his basement, he would be in a fight with Bernie Sanders now and the pandemic and the quarantine blunted that. And after superup tuesday, he was spared the back and forth and the on going contest with sanders. And the one thing that i have seen from going to biden rallies, is how great he connects with people on rope lines. He is very emp thetic. Its a qualify that is lacking from trump. And it turns out, he is really good at conveying that from his basement. You dont see him lot on the main zreem news outlets but they are doing a lot online. I heard from the Campaign Last week, they had 45 million views of the appearance that said he was doing things, Youtube Channels that are family center, young people and reaching different audiences. Its not adeal. B but i dont know that what happens in a few weeks in april is going to in terms of being in the public eye, it will be determi determinetive. But it will be a contrast that will still matter in the fall. That is the biden side of it. Robert, you and phil rucker wroe a story about the pandemic patron. And americans struggle to prevent the spread, trump has put themselves in the center as a patron. He is portraying himself in singular in charge. And when things go wrong, he will blame others and avail accountability. Trump has been responsive, quick, efficient. How does this patronage change the equation ahead of the e election, do you think . Governor cuomo did make the comments. Its clear in my interviews with other governors, republicans and democrats, governor hogan, governor whiter in, they look at their own supply chains, they are not trying to cup chur that with President Trump at all. They see him as someone who is putting himself after the center of federal response. Just to go to jens point for a second on senator sanders, top democrats, its clear that Vice President bidens kman has to deal with sanders himself. But the sanders moviement, how are they going to get the Left Wing Movement of the democratic party, that is behind sanders and ocasiocortez to get enthusiastic about bind as well. Its a two Form Initiative as they work on the left, the leadership and the rank and file. There is also money. You have a e enormous straight campaign. And 200 million advantage for team trump. No trips for joe biden to california for dollars. He doesnt have donor base of Bernie Sanders and that is against the g. O. P. Money machine. How much d