Within each other. And a vocal minority, all of the restrictions cannot end soon enough. Since yesterday, hundreds of protesters have depended on michigans capital, lansing. And the protestered entered the capitol and demanded to be on the white house floosh. Gretchen whitmer has a new plan in place. It came from Business Owner as well. President trump said, the governor of michigan should give a little and put out the fire. These are very good people but they are angry. Talk to them. Take a deal. There is also new reporting from nbc news today that the government has laced orders for well over 100,000 new body bags to hold victims. The documents show that the Task Force Members remain worried about the insufficient tests, and had is not a black and white rebate. Opening everybody, its more about survival and balance. How to keep people alive and how to keep as many as possible from losing their jobs, their businesses, their savings. Its happening in red states, also in blue stays. States in colorado, today, much of the state, Retail Stores were given the green light to reopen with strict social distancing rules in place. And monday, business offices in colorado will be able to open at 50 capacity. There is a lot that is still not open in state. That includes bars, inperson dining. This is the start of one of the more ambition reopening plans. Im joined now by the governor jared polis. Most of colorado, it sounds like the denver area, the restrictions to stay at home are in place. You talk about Retail Businesses opening up today with strict social distancing guidelines. How is it going . What is life like in colorado today . You know, i think its also important to point out that in all the states that have stay at homes,ing Retail Stores were open in that period. Pharmacies, grocery stores, convenient stores. What we have done in colorado is learned from the experience, what are the best practices that the stores that did well, decals on the floor where you wait in line, limiting traffic flow and applying it to the rest of retail that is open today. Much of colorado, its another week in partes of the denver metro area. We have talked about with it states around the country that are beginning some form of reopening. I want to put up on the screen. The guidelines for states to enter a reopening phase. One of the guidelines, it involved cases, a downward trajectory, in a positive test rate in that period. Im looking at the stats throughout for your state. The cases per day, 564 new cases a day. That is up from where it was two weeks guy. We were looking at that positive test rate. Im not seeing declines there. And this is happening there, in and other states. When you look at the federal guidelines, not requirements, the guidelines and where your state is, why do you feel comfortable Going Forward . The data shows in colorado we have a decline in cases. What were doing is measuring more of them. We are picking up more of the cases. All of the case numbers that are going out there are huge under sames of how many people actually have covid19. I think the National Figure is just north of 1 million, most epidemiologists say the actual number is 2 million, 3 million. We are picking up a few more now. The actual infection rate is three, four five times higher than number of cases we have reported. The same in every state. You talk about another stat the here we take about all the time. Testing. You talk about in colorado, being able to do, in month of may, getting to 5,000, 8,000, getting up to 10,000 tests a day. I was looking at the stats, the last couple days, the numbers, 1500, 2,000, the highest numbers, 400. How do you get to 10,000 a day in colorado . The limits factors is not so much personnel. We are using the Colorado National guard to testing. Its the personal protective equipment. Its really about the tests themselves. We have the lab capacity. But we dont have the viral reagents, and the e detection. We imported 100,000 from are south korea. Were on the ground and we have reached an agreement with with the federal government, and i talked with a major test supplier throughout may. I have great confidence we will be in the 5,000 to 10,000 tests a day range. And averagesing the upper end of that. You mentioned what is not in colorado, rest ranaurants are n open. There are other states beginning to allow inperson dining with limited capacity. 50 . Im curious how closely you are watching the stays and how will it impact your facet of reopening in colorado . Very closely. We are watching all the measures, across the world. Denmark that went back to school before many of them went back to work. That was almost two weeks go. Other states that opened up bars and restaurants. We are working hard on the safety pro colds and a way that doesnt interfere with business. There is no date yet for those to go givlive. They will be based on the data of the future. I dont have a chris cal ball. I want to ask you too, this week, we talked the prt with the executive order to invoke the protection act. And part of the infrastructure, to order them to stay hope. This has been an issue in colorado, huh a big outbreak there. What do you make of the president s order . Do you think its feasible to keep Meat Processing open in your state and elsewhere . The jbs meet facility was closed for about two weeks, and reopened. There wasnt testing on site. Just a mile from the site, we are doing free testing. Over 1,000 people have showed up in the last few days. Some workers, family members. I made the case to the Vice President as well. If we keep about keeping facilities online, specific to the facilities, its really important. We can simply test folks and get everybody who is negative, 85 of the work force back to work the next day. If they have it, they should enter a quarantine order for 14 days. Jared polis from colorado. Good luck to you as you pursue a partial reopening. Good look to you. Another sign country is still behind the curve when it comes to testing. The is not reconvening monday, politico errors there are not enough tests to pro actively test all senators as the chamber comes back in session. Joins me, dr. Nyugen, and shannon pettipiece. Dr. Nyugen, i put it to you. There has been a debate about what the federal guidelines from dr. Anthony fauci are to begin reopening and where the states actually are. He seemed confident that colorado was moving in the right direction on testing. The numbers i was looking at earlier, with was withnt as clear looking at it. What is your sense of the readiness of at least some states in country to begin doing what colorado is doing . Steve, i worry. I worry that were reopening too soon before we get the numbers under control. And before we have the capabilities in place for us to actually test everyone and also figure out who theyre exposed to. Had is not a matter of time line. This is a matter of the cape tblties. We dont have the capabilities to do the widespread testing or have the Public Health infrastructure. Every person who tests positive, we can identify who they have exposed to. If we dont have a true sense of the infections, how do we know e . I worry if we open too soon, were going to end up having a second wave of infections that is worse than the first or we make a difficult decision to shutdown states again. Im sht sure what the tolerance of the American People e will be. We showed the message that the president put up on twitter, the protestors at the state capitol, showing support for them. And the president said that georgia was doing it too soon. Is there a clear and consistent message this white house behind the scenes, not on twitter, but behind the scenes is delivers to the state on this . This is difficult for the administration. They really dont have any control over the governors. They can argue they have control when with it comes to Public Health vcrisis and closing thins and shutting things down. But they dont have Legal Authority when it comes to opening back up and when states do it with and when they do it and the administration is obviously very eager. They have made it very clear. They want states to reopen. They are encouraging that. You know, they themselves, you hear them talk about life returning to normal and this being behind us for memorial day. And the same time they know a lot of the blame will fall on them. If there is a rebound, a second wave, states have to reclose, its unavoidable at this point for some of the blame to come to the federal government and for the federal government to mount the response again. Its a difficult position they are in. I think the white house is airing on the side of pushing everyone to reopen and get the economy going sooner rather than later. Dr. Wen, you shared your concerns with some of the states and the actions they are taking. Im curious, you heard the governor in colorado say he is watching the states closely. We are watching colorado, florida, georgia closely. What would when with you look at the data on this, two what would success this month look like in those states . Can you set criteria that we can look at to decide, did it work in colorado, georgia, minnesota, so on . Yeah, its a really good question. I wish i could say, well, look at this particular metric. That is going to tell us whether this reopen onning was just on type or was too soon. Heres the problem b though. There is a significant lack of time we have to take into consideration. There is a lack of time between when people are exposed to the virus and when they get sick. Up to 14 days for the incubation period. And the time when they get sick and really sick and when they end up succumbing, some of them to covid19, it might be with weeks to months before we really see a rise in hospitalizations and deaths and you know, when things reopen, it doesnt mean that everyone is going to go in public. Some people will not go immediately. So i worry we are drawing the wrong lessons. If we don see an immediate increase, i dont want other states to say, it was sont so , and i think we had proceed with an abundance of caution and those who can should continue to stay at home and shelter in place. Thanks to both of you for being was. Appreciate that. Up next a big divide between red states and blue stays how and when to reopen their states . Is it much of a divide . Stay was. 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We have been talking about it this week, the president deciding not if extend the federal social distancing guidelines. This is up to the states now to decide, what they want to do, do they want to start reopeninging . Do they want to put a plan in place, or stay sheltered in place right now . Different situatidecisions. Check it out. This a big collection of states now, you see, these are states that have begun, they are not doing it the same. They have begun loosening some of the restrictions and reopening. Let my give you an an example. Georgia, the most ambitious and aggressive, sorry, the second one, this is category, states beginning to do it soon. Georgia, again this is probably one of the most ambitious reopenings we are seeing here. Retail and restaurants. Not seeing it in a lot of states. Restaurants are allowed to open. They have to have social distancing in place in these restaurants. They cant do it cram everybody today. Social distancing rules in place. Inperson dining can happen in georgia, jgyms and movie theates can open. And georgia is one of the most ambitious, that is why. Not everything is open. Bars, amusement parks, concert venn news, those are not open. We had mores in georgia say they are not happy with it. And the death rate in georgia, by the way, its 16th in the country right now. Out of 50 starts, the district of columbia, the most ambitious. Florida, you take a look. Minnesota, boy, im on a roll here. Minnesota, a state doing a partial reopening. When it comes to reopening, its the opposite of georgia, in the category of states doing reopening, this is one of the least ambitious you are seeing. What you are seeing is industrial, and offices, they are not must customer facing mfsh with strict social distancing. Retail stores, youve to do curbside, changed the rule in minnesota, youre not going into the store, you can pick it up outside. Restaurants, pickup, delivery only. No one is going inside. Bars are closed. Minnesota like georgia are trying to do reopening. You see the plain is scaled back from georgia. I want to mention florida. There ito is. Florida. A state doing this monday. Here what you see in florida, this is another twist. Florida saysot look, three counties here, three giant counties, miamidade, broward, theyre not opening. 60 of the deaths are in those three counties. Theyre not doing any reopening. The rest of the state, retail and restaurants can open, 25 capacity max. Gyms, bars, closed. Elective procedures can continue monday in florida. Giving you a sense, a wide range. When you see reopening does not meanoe the same thing state to state, it means very different things. Theyre all trying d to figure out themselves. Up next, governors and mayors find the Pandemic Response is not one size fits all. How two mayors are tailoring the plans for their city. After this. Plans for their city after this cancer care. Because cancer isnt just what we do, its all we do. Call now. 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In norman, oklahoma, mayor, your governor gave you the option, you chose to let retail, restaurants open with some pretty strict restrictions, retail and restaurants can open, soccer fields, baseball diamonds can open, golf courses. Looks like i checked the weather on my phone, 85 and sunny in norman. Whats it like on the streets . Well, i have had many residents report today that people are out and about and unfortunately theyre not wearing facial coverings that they were a day ago, seems like, and this is what we worried about, relaxing of orders statewide and even in the city, people flipped a switch thinking things are back to normal. I tried to stress many times theyre nowhere near normal, we have to work on defining a new normal in our community at this time. You raise a point of concern, takes me to the next question. You have the power. Not every mayor has this power. You have the power to say were not going to do that, not reopening this, not reopening that. Would not Wearing Masks cause you to pull back some openings . Im sorry, could you finish the question again, please, it broke up a little bit. It is windy here, as well as being 85 degrees. Wind power is a big issue in oklahoma. Youre concerned people arent adhering to masks, would that cause you, is that a thing that would cause you to pull back some openings, relaxed rules . All decisions are data driven, we are watching numbers closely each day, not just hospital capacity, three day rolling average of new reported cases, so what were looking at again is the data. Were going to do what we can to push facial coverings. Going to start a Promotional Campaign with the city staff, city council, police and fire, even going to be requesting mayors around oklahoma join me in my mayors mask up campaign. We need to walk the walk as much as we talk the talk. Hopefully we can continue to drive home the importance of social distancing and facial covering as we continue to try to flatten the curve, stop spread of the coronavirus in norman. Lets go from oklahoma to oakland, california. The bay area. Mayor shaf. Your situation in california is interesting. One of the first places we saw coronavirus cases was on the west coast. Yet now when you look at the data, the death rate in california is lower, significantly lower than some states were talking about that are beginning to reopen, yet california is not there now. And yet i think we mentioned this, your states governor, gavin newsom might be days away from beginning the process. Does that sound right to you, like the time line you have in mind . Governor newsom has been respectful of regional differences, he has always said that more restrictive orders will be upheld, and in th