Delay on a coding issue that has before, theyre you know, the now been fixed. Not all candidates are happy meat of them usually takes about 30 minutes or so. With todays plan to release as were on air last night, we partial results. Have live shots up in the i dont understand what that caucuses. Means, to release half of the in is going longer than i data. So i think they ought to get it thought. What was your impression last night . Together and release all of the it did go longer. Part of it was, they were trying data. So they to make sure some of the they should wait until they have it all . Problems they were criticized were doing what we can to for in the past didnt happen help. Again. They didnt want anybody to have and were calling on other questions about the results. Campaigns to do the same. Theres evidence we have that all of this could have been they have these preference cards that one by one, the guy who was avoided. An email chain shows caucus running the operation, went around and literally handed them organizers knew of problems with that app yesterday morning. To them. That they could do their second one organizer wrote just after preference, if they were going to move around. 9 00 a. M. Yesterday nobody the folks who were representing having trouble with the app the campaigns had the should feel dumb. Opportunity to go around with a few minutes later, i give up them and make sure that thats what happened. On the app. So the whole thing took longer, im not using the app, im going to call in my results. And then people were asking for more time as they were going to despite the frustration, the president ial candidates are the second preference, there was a lot of horse trading going on. Pushing forward. Many of them campaigning in ham and then in the end people were happen, which holds its first in the nation primary, one week just leaving. From today. People with the candidate, who members of the party spoke with had already made it after three officials this afternoon, on an hours. Youre like, okay. Update on when we can expect i saw photos of caucus results. Ali vitaly who was on the phone call this afternoon. Sevenyearolds sleeping on also joining me, josh lieberman. Clothing. The thing drags on for three hours. Let me start with you, what at a certain point come on. You talk about the happened in that call . Candidates, im not trying to diminish what theyre trying to do right now, which is spin it. The campaigns learned, we as best they can, without knowing what the results are, know these partial results are but when you meet these folks and you go and spend time in coming. It was a longer call than what iowa, they care about the we had in the past, the last democratic process, and this ones overnight ended with the year in particular the Democrats Party hanging up on the combines. Told me time and time again, who obviously had a lot of they feel democracy itself is at questions. That was one of the things we heard on this call. Stake. They took time off from their a lot of con sister nation from jobs. These campaigns. They got people to take care of questions about what these their kids. The voters of iowa were badly partial results would mean. Served here. Troy price said it was at least people who really wanted to make 50 of all the results they have. Theyre able to follow a paper their voices heard. Trail here, one of the things he said on this call, is that they democracy wasnt well served here. And maybe the worst part of it havent yet collected all of that paper. Is the democrats who feel this so thats the concern with getting these results, the campaigns know its going to be visceral need to have someone a rush to plant the flag, and who can beat donald trump. Theyre impartial, not full it was a selfinflicted wound. Results that could result in one thing i think that was important about last night is a potentially someone declaring victory and not being the stress test of election night, victor. One of the tense moments i heard on this call was when jeff right . Because well, lets hope not. Weaver called out basically heres my point about that. People who said, were being we have an Electoral College disingenuous about not wanting the results released because of system. If we had a natural popular how they may have fared last vote. You had 130 million americans night. Casting their ballot, the odds a little sniping on this phone call. Its not surprising why. Of it coming down to seven votes there were millions of dollars is pretty slim. Poured into iowa by these wisconsin could come down to 1,000 votes, right . Campaigns, into organizing, yeah. Putting staff on the ground. Whats important to me in candidates themselves, spent some ways institution ali, both over a year in some cases the candidates and everyone campaigning in the hawkeye state, to have it turn out this else, its better to be slow and chaotically is disappointing to right than fast and wrong. See the least. That to me has to be the frustrating at best, and all of overriding message thats being sent from campaigns, from these campaigns waiting to see how this shakes out. Everyone in the Democratic Party. They try to look ahead and move yes, this was bad, but get it into New Hampshire, which really right, and take the time you is a state where they should need to do it. Theres a lot of serious be someone should be pushing off the momentum from iowa. Questions about, does american democracy function. People have seen the candy date youre with the buttigieg who doesnt win the popular vote campaign, josh. And they had the most una. M. Big when the Electoral College has u house victory speech last become the president. Weve seen on the impeachment trial, the inability to hold the night. It was later than he would have president accountable. Liked. There are several policy i think his campaign said, no blunders the elites have made. Matter what happened, we made history last night, which is a iowa is at a different scale, little bit of a walk back from but ordinary people who dont we won. Follow politics look at this and whats going on with the say, is our democracy delivering Buttigieg Campaign. Hes been campaigning here in results . New hampshire today as if he had is there a way to decide what already emerged as the clear has happened instead of having a winner out of iowa, i just got war over meaning i think the off the phone withn official from his campaign who said they Joe Biden Campaign and pete are confident in that memo they buttigieg have been undermining put out early this morning based the democratic process. Especially from the former vptd, on their own math suggesting i dont think it helps make the case that this is a legitimate that he came in first place election to write this memo and there. Which is a wrinkle. Undermine. People said this is what the the initial results we see come personny Sanders Campaign would do. In, may not be quite that its people who are most part of the Democratic Party favorable to Pete Buttigieg, we dont know what portion the establishment who because state party will release first, they may have gotten a poorer but we think that it may likely result in the election are seeking to question the results be results from places like des of what happened. I think thats disgraceful. Moines, urban parts of the state where its easier to tabulate well, to further the and bring those paper results democratic process, i do think in. Pete buttigieg, according to his the iowa Democratic Party should have given a more democratic own internal math, reports in process yes, i think were all in rural parts of iowa as well as agreement. They really wanted to counties that voted for alabama participate, they really wanted and flipped to trump in 2016. To really want to help figure those may take longer to get to the state party. Out who the democratic nominee just another example of why will be. You know, they take the role nobody. Not Elizabeth Warren, not Pete Buttigieg is happy with this seriously, they really try to vet the candidates and so at plan to pit out some undefined partial results at 5 00 p. M. This point the day after, to almost 24 hours after iowa ans have no idea really what started up to caucus. Happened, i mean, this is the biden camp seems has anecdotal information we have. Been the most aggressive so far may point one direction, may point another. In treating the results with we dont know the results yet. Skepticism in so far as they it will look bad to have wrote a memo, an efficiently declared victory if youre not the victor this time. Letter, and again, everyone has yes. Their own interest here, unlike with romney and planting the flag, but the data santorum, this time, nobody that we have, and the reactions knows, and so to have declared victory will not look like a of the Biden Campaign is a smooth move. I want to play a little bit circumstantial picture, shows of bites of last night, there them thinking they did not do was youre in a weird situation if youre a candidate great last night. Look, i mean, i dont want to or campaign. Read too much into the mindset its a wired situation. Of the candidates. You have a bunch of natural came cameras, you want to take ill let him speak for himself. Advantage of that. Let him see what hes saying on klobuchar came out and said, we the ground in New Hampshire. Dont know, were here, were and let him talk about it on the kicking opinion hello cameras, back end. Listen. That started a bunch of dominos, we had a good night last night in iowa. And i know you think thats take a listen to some of what got said last night. Silly, but everything we can feel is good, heres the deal, i imagine have a strong we think were going to come out feeling that at some point the of there doing well. Results will be announced. Lets give him time to work out those issues. And when those results are we dont know how many delegates announced, i have a good feeling we have, but i feel good about getting more than our fair were going to be doing very share. Well here in iowa. Look, when josh talks about so we dont know all the where the places were that these campaigns were targeting, rural results, but we know by the time its all said and done, iowa, versus urban areas, one of the things the biden staffers said you have shocked the nation. It is too close to call. Was, didnt we all agree this was a to get im going to tell you what i do know. You won bigger than any candidate, any party, and folks, i said from the outset, were in a battle for the soul of the nation, and thats not hyperbole, we really believe that. I do think that the those can be very tangible in terms of fundraising. Thats how it cashes out. It does increase the states for New Hampshire. Every candidate running for any office tries to control the media narrative. Perhaps at no greater moment than the night of the iowa caucus. I think mayor petes speech was clearly written for history. He was reaching for that history in a moment. One is the former republican now, independent, not a democrat. My democratic friends, dont do this to yourself. Dont eat your own. The only thing that happened last night, was not a challenge to the integrity of the vote, just the timing of the results as you said. So the people who are feeling the frustration are the candidates who wanted that moment. They wanted the momentum. All of us wanted it, right . They all wanted it in that moment. If anything happened we will see the results, the winner will get declared and 41 delegates out of 4,000 will actually get assigned, and for those who have said iowa does not represent the nation the way it should be in knocked down a guess what, beg. Now the results will happen while the are in New Hampshire. The hardest thing to do is to step back and take a deep breath, right . Its never a good sign when the secretary of state of iowa, puts out a statement the next day saying, i have nothing to do with it. Part of this has to do with the strangeness of what a primary is. A primary is undertaken by a combination of the state election apparatus in the party. The caucuses are solely the party, secretary of state the secretary of state in New Hampshire will have a role to play in the New Hampshire primary, it will be run partly through his office. The primary is a thing of its like a bunch of meetings. Its a bunch of bake sales organized by the party. 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I want to get your take your temperature on where things stand right now . Its whiplash inducing statements from u. S. Senators about whether they will or will not vote to convict and remove the president from office,ed formal beginning of the primary process to select a democratic nominee, the state of the union, where is what are you thinking about where we are at this moment . A lot happening at the same time, that might be difficult for people to keep up with back home. When i go back to pennsylvania, whether its they hope the state of the union will be about, what they hope i work on, its still mostly about economic security, health care being the primary focus for most americans. Most americans, generally understand what republicans have been trying to do to health care, i try to remind them theyre for a lawsuit that will destroy it, the sabotage thats undermining it, and the budget cuts to medicare and medicaid 2. 3 trillion over 10 years. I think thats important for people to understand the challenge we have right now on health care because of republican policies, but i hope that tonight would be a night where the president would try to unify the country rather thandie viding it as he often does. Theres a proposal for medicaid block grants. Theres a vote in the house either its been voted on or will be voted on as sort of a resolution of disapproval that may come over to you in the senate, that would get the senators on the record about the cuts to medicaid, do you think thats a good idea idea . Its a great idea. Until 2017 a lot of americans probably undercounted or didnt fully appreciate the value of medicaid. How important it is to the country. It makes rural hospitals viable. It allows many of our seniors, many seniors from middle class families to get into a nursing home absent medicaid, they wouldnt be able to do that. Its a reminder of the value of medicaid for our kids, our seniors and people with disabilities. And a reminder about this big divide between the two parties, its important we do that when it comes over from the house. Weve been getting your statements about how your colleagues will vote. Joe manchin voted for a formal move to censure the president separate from the counts on which hes being tried. What is your response to that . Were still in an impeachment trial. The gravity of these efences cant be understated. He solicited the interference from a Foreign Government in the next election, and to investigate a loopy theory from 2016, it has ramifications for the 2020 election. On interference, it is corrupt. Its corrupt conduct, its an abuse of power. Im going to be talking on the floor this afternoon about my wholeview of the trial. But weve got to finish this trial and make sure we maintain a focus on this trial. Someone has another idea in a couple days or couple weeks, fine, we should all consider those. Its very important to keep peoples focus on this trial until were completed. I have a question for you. Do you think it matters what republicans say about the president s conduct if they vote to acquit him. Is there any meaning or important restraining messages sent by your colleagues if they at the very least condemn the behavior, call it inappropriate, say its w