Of people were in the home its about whether or not the president keeps his job. Oufoard with their celebrations. And senator kennedy is also correct when he notes that the a man stormed in with a large senators dont just play the knife and started slashing people at random. Here is a little bit more from a traditional role that jurors witness we spoke with earlier play deciding what facts the today. Evidence has proven. They also play an Important Role in determining what the take a listen. We just finished the candle procedure is and what the local Lighting Ceremony and we were standards are. But where i think he goes a heading into the synagogue for a little bit astray is in thinking meal. He came in with a big sword, that those rules are lindsay knife, machete. Graham. He pulled it out of the holder but really what has to happen and started wielding it at here is republicans need the people right and left. Votes of 51 senators to impose and then he ran into the dining these rules on the proceedings. Room. Then he went into the kitchen. And although they hold the majority of 53 votes in the senate, at least lisa murkowski, reporter and that was joseph possibly others, have expressed gluck, who was in this home at some misgivings about not having the time of the attack, and he a fair process in the senate. Actually responded really quickly because not only did he there are vulnerable republican try to stop the attacker, he was senators up for reelection. Actually able to write down the so ultimately mcconnell will license plate number of the have to be able to bring all of suspect as he got away. These senators who may have and that suspect was captured concerns on the margins along if about two hours after the attack theyre going to have this in harlem in manhattan, which is about an hour from where we are cramdown sort of a process that right now. And richard, you might notice he and senator grassley seem to there is no crime tape behind envision. I think the jury is still out on me. This is still very much an what the rules look like. Active investigation. And i guess the question we have local, state and federal might be, meredith, senator authorities looking at this kennedy softening the ground, if right now. Officials havent released a you will, for let Mitch Mcconnell make any decision he motive, but a lot of elected would like to do, its his game . Officials have called this a is that what senator kennedy form of hate, including governo might be doing . Certainly, and so far the directed the hate Crimes Task Force to also help with the rha needle really hasnt been moved in terms of any conversation kathy park with the very between schumer and mcconnell on latest for us in monsey, new laying out exactly what the york. Framework of this potential thank you so much. And well have more on the rise trial might look like, and of course until those sorts of of antisemitic hate groups and meetings happen we dont know crimes. Stick around for that. What could happen come s all we are also monitoring the latest developments of a shooting that left two people of those trying to think of how dead in fort worth, texas. It happened in the town of white long this process might take. Settlement, along with the two lets go to senator cruz. Deceased, a third person is said his reflection is about how many to be in critical condition. They also believe one of the republicans potentially might be dead could be the gunman. And right now there is no longer thinking twice about support of an active shooting threat. What Mitch Mcconnell seems to say is going to happen. Law enforcement is still trying lets take a listen to what he to determine a motive here. Said. This Church Shooting comes just based on what you know today, over two years after another do you expect any republicans to mass shooting in a texas church. Vote to impeach in the senate . That tragedy taking place in you know, i dont. It is certainly possible and there are a couple that could vote that way. Sutherland springs outside of san antonio. Were going to keep our eye on but i think anyone voting on the that as well. Facts, anyone voting on the law, we turn now to the president this is a very easy vote. And the developing news on the what they have alleged is not a senates impending impeachment high crime or misdemeanor. One of those couple might be here, jennifer, mitt romney, and trial, as they offered their takes on Nancy Pelosis todays tribune there in salt strategy. I think this is a sign of lake city had this headline. Weakness. I think shes been clear there will be a trial, so yes, she will be sending over the it read senator mitt romneys articles of impeachment. I think right now were engaged mission, trial first, verdict in this conversation about the afterwards. So maybe splitting the importance of being able to call difference here. What do you think here, witnesses. Jennifer . Yeah, i think that there is i dont know exactly when the trial will start. I really dont. Pressure on there are a few the trial will start in early senators who are either exerting january. I expect it to be very their own internal pressure and i think mitt romney is a perfect quickly done in january. Example of that, where he in maybe take up the whole month of announcing his decision to run january. Theyre going to be in misery. If i were running for president for senate more than a year ago and i had to sit there and everybody else was in iowa was talking about Holding President trump accountable and campaigning for the first in the has certainly still voted nation february 3rd caucuses, i with since hes been in would be nuts. Office since the beginning of well, the speaker continues this year, has voted with the president quite a lot. To delay delivering the articles but he does seem to be somebody of impeachment to the senate, the president is stirring the who really does want to have a pot, retweeting a post with the alleged name of the whistleblower that started the fair trial process and to really congressional investigation perhaps consider the facts. Leading to impeachment proceedings. But the morning after it was tweeted, that post disappeared from twitter. Senator murkowski is somebody an apparent glitch of the social else who has concerns about the media company. All of this against the backdrop process. And i would guess that there are of a congress that will remain more senators who have private on winter break for more than concerns but in public want to one week. Be seen as very much aligned with the president. Lets go to hans nichols, where and then when you see the president continuing to go after the president is finishing his speaker pelosi, tweeting the name of the whistleblower, all holiday vacation. And hans, with the president of those kinds of things, i retweeting the alleged name of the whistleblower. Think that there is for a lot of any response from the president or the administration on that . These senators a concern that reporter no, they let the even if they feel like the set of facts in this ukraine tweets speak for themselves and the president is now retweeting situation are in favor of the president , that theyre some of his earlier tweets concerned that politically there attacking House Speaker nancy will ultimately be some kind of pelosi. Earlier he called her crazy fallout from staying with him nancy, then he demanded an answer from her on whats down the line. Happening in terms of whats but again, i think that there going on in her district, in still is this huge sense for a terms of the homeless crisis. But as well this news report about her sons potential role lot of republicans that feel in ukraine. Richard, taking a step back, President Trump is the way to this sunday feels a lot like stay engaged with the base and get reelected. Last sunday where you had lets talk now about some lawmakers on the sunday talk show say that a deal was maybe wild cards here. Joyce, i want to start with you imminent and something was going on this one. To be worked out very shortly. Its the Nuclear Option. It was written in the hill. And the next day we had mitch it was an op ed that said there mcconnell and Chuck Schumer giving dueling versions indicating how far apart the two was a possibility that the of them were to have any sort of Senate Majority could, if they thought it was expedient and agreement on a trial. Strategic, they could have a the significant talks this procedural motion to adjourn the morning or the interviews was start of the trial until from steve scalise. November 4th, 2020, and in the number two house republican. Very close to the white house. And he was expressing essence, allow the American People to decide the president s frustration with House Speaker fate at the ballot box instead. Nancy pelosi for not sending over the articles. If, of course, Mitch Mcconnell all but demanding, daring her to thinks thats strategic. Send them over. That seems to be at odds with is this Nuclear Option possible the position of senator mitch here, joyce . Mcconnell, the majority leader, i dont think that well see who has talked about how he this happen. And one of the biggest clues doesnt want to take these up. That we have that it wont he has no interest in taking it happen is the fact that mitch up. So were seeing the beginnings mcconnell, who as you pointed of a republican split. You have some potential out early on, really never wanted to have a trial in the frustration with the president bubbling up through his twitter senate, has been forced to talk about one. Hes not even in a position now feed and congressman van holland of seeing as a realistic talking and hes in the camp that were eventually going to possibility having an immediate have a trial. But its not like he has any motion to dismiss as soon as the assurances from pelosi. Articles of impeachment are and then the big question is brought up in the senate. What does the trial actually and why is that . Thats because he knows he look like and joe kennedy doesnt have the magic number, excuse me, senator kennedy from he doesnt have 51 votes. Louisiana is quotable and heres wild card to you and you what he had to say about it. Probably thought the same here, when it comes to impeachment, meredith, and that is rudy the rule is that there are giuliani. And whether we will see him virtually no substti criminal t. Possibly giving testimony. But on top of that, he has the senate is not rea the presi inadvertently called you several times. You might tell us a little bit about that. Well, i wasnt expecting that tweet to take off the way it did. But i guess we can all relating to an accidental phone call. I had reached out to him because he was in palm beach with the president and i happened to be there covering him, and of course mr. Giuliani is known to have some frequent telephone troubles and he accidently called me quite a few times over the past holiday week. But in terms of mr. Giuliani wanting to participate, he said he wants to be there for all of this, but those in the west wing are loathe to have him get too involved with any of this. President trump on the other hand has sort of egged him on and said he supports him. He still views him in the vein of the new york city mayor, but mr. Giuliani is still very much wanting to be there for all of those. Quickly on this, joyce, the retweet of potentially the alleged whistleblower, does the president face any sort of legal ramification related to this . Well, certainly not while hes in office. But its now incumbent upon people like senator chuck grassley, longtime supporter of these very important whistleblower protections, to speak out against this to make sure the president doesnt do it again. The notion of this president being held accountable seems to be absolutely impossible at this point in his presidency. But violating whistleblower protections is serious, it has serious implications for the integrity of our government, because we so often depend upon these people to bring forward more mundane allegations of fraud and abuse than what weve seen with the whistleblower that lead to the impeachment proceedings. Thank you as always for coming in today. I appreciate you. 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So under medicare for all, what does our job look like . Are we unemployed . To answer your question, will there be dropoffs, yes, there will be. But we are putting into medicare for all what we call a Transitional Program that will help everybody in the industry to maintain their income, get the job training that they need to get another job. I think thats the fair and right thing to do. Well, those questions come the same week that the Washington Post crunched some of the numbers around this discussion and they found, quote, the major spending proposals of the leading democratic president ial candidates have tenyear costs ranging from about 4 trillion to more than 50 trillion, and for context the annual federal budget, its about 4. 5 trillion. The Washington Post also noting even the most sparse of the 2020 plans, they dwarf what successful democrats pushed before. For instance, as she seized the democratic nomination, Hillary Clinton posed a tenyear agenda that was about 4. 5 trillion. You do the math there, you can see the big difference. Joining us right now, nbc news political reporter Shaquille Brewster and nbc News Attorney raul rayes. It sounds like mayor Pete Buttigieg was also pressed today on the affordability of his proposals. All of the zeros behind the dollar sign. Reporter thats right, and it goes to show you this is not a question being presented to just the progressive candidates in the race, but also some of the more moderate candidates. Mayor pete is on the swing through iowa thats taking him through central iowa, some of the more candidates areas of the state. And he was having a town hall and a lady stood up and asked him, she said ive been studying your website, i know about your plans, but i have questions about the affordability element. Listen to that exchange. One of the things i dont see addressed is where youre going to pay for things, and also what youre thinking on the deficit. Yes, thank you for asking. Im glad youre looking at it. Because i believe its very important for candidates to explain how were going to pay for all the promises were making. Youre going to notice two things about the ideas im putting forward in this campaign. First, on the cost side, the things that im proposing are i5 big. Trillion over a decade, so but were also making sure we never make a promise we cant keep. Its why we figured out a insur that doesnt cost 20 or 40 or 1. 5 and still gets the job done. Reporter and you hear mayor pete there trying to thread the needle between the divide you hear among voters on the campaign trail. They like the big ideas going after medicare for all, college for all, green new deal, but also dont want to make it easier for President Trump to defeat a democratic candidate if it comes to the general election. So thats why you have the candidates trying to thread the needle, talking about how they have big ideas, but also are being controlled in