Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Stephanie Ruhle 20181

MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Stephanie Ruhle November 7, 2018

Younger faces in government come 2019 and a lot of them, im proud to say, are going to be the faces of women. As of right now the number of women who have won elections or reelections to congress is at at least 110. Thats a new record. But even at this hour theres still a number of very important races yet to be decided. Among them the Florida Senate race, considered too close to call with the republican rick scott leading the incumbent. Democrat bill nelson, by less than half a percentage point. That is tight. Montanas senate race also too close to call. The republican challenger, Matt Rosendale is ahead of the democratic incumbent, jon tester, with fewer than 2,000 votes separating these guys. The governors race between brian kemp and the Democrat Stacey Abrams is still up in the air. There are reports that thousands of absentee ballots still need to be count. Were also waiting for a call in the state of connecticut where the leading candidates for governor are separated by only 18,000 votes. Dont forget, every vote counts. And finally in arizona where the senate race between republican Martha Mcsally and democrat Kyrsten Sinema was a dead heat before election day. At this point it is still too close to call. These two women are separated by less than one percentage point. Von hillyard is in arizona. The result is a woman and its the first time a woman holds this seat from the state of arizona. But tell us which one. How soon are we going to get this answer . The reality is we probably will not know today. We will probably not know tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow evening well start to get a little bit better sense. This could roll all the way, nine, ten days. Essentially theres still 500,000 votes that still need to be count. Thats 25 of the vote. And the interesting part about this is well, Martha Mcsally is up by about a percentage point over Kyrsten Sinema statewide. In maricopa county, making up 50 of the electorate in the state, most of the votes are left uncounted and here maricopa county, Kyrsten Sinema has a one percentagepoint lead. Its interesting talking to both camps late into the morning as well as the data guru at the arizona secretary of States Office. Both campaigns believe that they have this race. And theres a sincerity to their belief. I was breaking down with the data guru at the arizona secretary of States Office and it all comes down to really a matter of the votes that were turned in at the polling location yesterday and which candidate that broke in favor of. The reason this will extend for so many days is because they have to go and verify the signatures, were talking about 350,000 ballots which were early ballots that folks handdelivered to the folling location. And those will be counted over the next several days, stephanie. Both camps are holding out. We said going into yesterday if this is less than 1. 5 were going to be talking about this race for several days. Guess what . Were at a percentage point difference and thats why were up here, stephanie. Thanks, von. Let me turn to decatur, georgia where the governors race is still too close to call. Tell me how this will get resolved. We cannot forget brian kemp is running for governor, and he runs the election process there. Yes. One of the reasons why Stacey Abrams always said that this was going to be a tough race for governor, and she really was right as youre pointing out, and it was around 1 30 this morning while she was trailing in the votes she came out and she told an enthusiastic crowd of supporters that they cannot give up on this race yet. Meanwhile it was also a very positive sounding brian kemp, as you point out, hes the republican secretary of state, who was sounding very positive about his chances. But Stacey Abrams told the reporters this race is not over until every single one of these votes are counted. Listen. There are voices that were waiting to be heard across our state, folks are opening up the dreams of voters in absentee ballots. And we believe our chance for a stronger georgia is just within reach. We are waiting on the final result, but im confident that victory is near. And together we will continue to work to put hard working georgians first. Abrams believes there are thousands of absentee ballots and a significant number of provisional ballots that will count in her direction, narrowing the gap between her and brian kemp, leading to a special Runoff Election which she thinks will give her another chance to still win this election. When is that going to happen . That will happen if and when she gets the numbers shes hoping for in this ballot count. And we think that those provisional and provisional ballots those absentee and provisional ballots, i should say, theyll start counting them sometime today. Stephanie . Thanks so much. Joining me now, i have a fantastic panel this morning. Steve israel, outgoing republican from pennsylvania, congressman brian costello, a National Political reporter, and charlie sites contributing editor of the weekly standard. And cornell bellcher. Democrats gained big in the house and they lose ground in the senate, what does that tell you . Well, look, every referendum in the history of referendums, every midterm in the history of midterms is a referendum on the president , particularly on the house of representatives. This year you had a Senate Landscape that favored republicans just because of the math. But in the house of representatives this midterm was a referendum on President Trump and he badly lost that referendum. How did he lose it . Number one he lost it with women. Number two, he lost it with independents, women broke against him the day after the inauguration. And so any way you look at it, this is a big gain for democrats. Charlie, i need you to help me out. Im confused. In the senate the lines got clearer. Three red state democrats lost, moderates are leaving office. So what does that mean for legislation in 2019 . Because when you look at the exit polls, people are not happy with how divided we are. People dont care as much about the russia investigation as we thought, they want to lead better lives. If these two parties continue to go their separate ways, theyre not actually serving the people who vote for them. No. And i think that youre going to have government that will be more divided. All of the division that weve seen, the red and the blue, the mix mixed verdict, i think is going to lead to more partisan ware fare. It was a referendum on donald trump, but hes going to feel validated with the caravan, with going with american carnage, all of those tactics, succeeded in the senate and of course now the democrats have got to decide how do you stand up to donald trump given this super majority now that not a super majority, but an expanded majority in the senate . But i would expect that the partisan hand to hand fighting will intensify, if anything, as a result of yesterdays election. Intensify. And america wants us to work together. All right cornell, i want to ask you about the democrats next move here. We know democrats won the house. I want to share what Eric Swalwell said. Were not going to lead with investigations, not going to look the other way. The president in the last two years has said he wants to do infrastructure, the dream act, wants to do background checks and reduce the cost of prescription drugs. Republicans never brought those bills forward. We will conduct the investigations that republicans wouldnt conduct. Can you do both . I remember last night before they even called the house we heard democrats were demanding President Trumps taxes. And i thought to myself, i want to see his taxes too, but if health care is what people voted for, thats not what democrats are leaning into. So now theyve got the house. Which direction do they go in . Look, they can chew gum and walk at the same time. I mean, its this isnt those but yeah chewing gum and walking and working with the president youre investigating are not the same thing. But they are. You can chew gum and walk at the same time. It is completely okay for congress to do its job and to hold the president accountable, and also move legislation on infrastructure. Its not that difficult. Congresses have done this before. The president has done some things that are fairly outrageous, and push the boundaries of law and yes congresss job is, in fact, to check the president. That is a fundamental job of the congress written into the constitution, yes, they should be overseeing the president , overseeing the government. But yeah, they also can move infrastructure and yes, they can also Reform Health care. Its not theyre not opposite things. Im with you. So to that exact point, what cornell is talking about is our elected officials putting country first. But do you believe that President Trump can actually work with the likes of elijah cummings, nancy pelosi and maxine waters. Theres a lot of talk that President Trump wanted an infrastructure package. That would involve going against his conservative flank, which he doesnt like to spend money. Thats one issue. For the most part, stephanie, i think President Trumps legislative agenda is dead. He can get something on immigration if he gives up a lot. But hes not going to put 11 million people, legal status for them on the table and democrats are not going to give him his wall unless they get Something Big in return. But saw a blue wave in the house, a red fortress in the senate. As swalwell pointed out, theyre going to talk about theres going to be a constitutional check on President Trump. They dont want to make it sound like a partisan thing. The senate is going to become a factory for confirming judges in their 40s and 50s backed by a federalist society. This is Mitch Mcconnells big goal. Theres not a huge difference between 51 republican senators and 54 or 55. It is to those three. It is to those three. But in terms of big picture, the main impact of this is in 2020, republicans are facing a tough map then. Democrats are going to have a much harder time taking back that chamber. You can see a situation where dems win the presidency and the house in 2020, but get locked up in the senate. That is the final impact. I just want to break in for a moment. We have an apparent winner in the connecticut governors race, ned lamont, democrat from connecticut, a win for the blue in the state of connecticut. Congressman costello, the president issued a warning to democrats thinking about launching a investigation. If the democrats think they are going to waste taxpayer money investigating us at the house level we will likewise be forced to consider investigating them for all the leaks of classified information and much else at the senate level. Two can play at that game. Its a rallying cry to the base. I agree with steve, this was an election where ting Political Parties have more than ever sorted themselves into the party of trump and the party against trump. We saw pickups for republicans in the senate congressman, the base is all the way out here, just like the resistance is all the way out here. The exhausted majority in this country got up yesterday and voted, more people voted than we normally see, far bigger than the base. Dont they count for something . Certainly. My point was simply that tweet is not a tweet about lets do infrastructure, lets find some common sense, even incremental Immigration Reform measures, lets do any number of other things that we can agree on, thats, all right, democrats, game on. Thats what that tweet was. I think steve can agree with that. I will pick up something on what heel said right here, the other thing were going to see in january, if not before, are some cabinet folks stepping down. It makes it a lot easier to get some of those nominations through with 54 votes rather than 51. Can i just in on this . I dont think donald trump realizes, number one, that he lost, and number two, why he lost. He lost by antagonizing those independent swing voters the weekend before this midterm election. Thats when the intensity really broke for democrats. Doing those kinds of tweets where hes saying thats Barbara Comstock winking at you, mr. President. Doing those tweets saying i will outinvestigate the democrats in the house, that further pushes independent swing voters away. They voted for the president because they wanted checks and balances. And now for the president to engage in divisive rhetoric, it further alienates them and its the best thing he can do to keep them with democrats. Can i jump in real quickly . When you get into the nuts and bolts of the exit polling here, this is what i think is problematic. 49 49. Democrats came as close to winning white women as we have in my lifetime. That should send a message to trump and the Trump Republican Party about sort of the divisive politics. Look, trump didnt run on infrastructure. He didnt run on the economy. He ran on race. He ran on an invasion of brown people. And democrats ride to run on health care. But democrats also have to not see the ground about tribalism. We have to have an answer to tribalism that says weve got to bring america together and give the moderate women a softer place to land because they dont like the divisiveness. If democrats can get pragmatic, charlie sikes, i ask you, will they gain ground in regaining white men . Well, thats going to be one of the really tricky questions. I will say that, you know, this is a time for democrats to go back to the drawing board a little bit and recognize that moving hard left is not the way necessarily to win these elections. You know, weve been focusing a lot on the florida. Look, really surprised that florida, which has a zero income tax, would vote against a very, very progressive democrat. So to a certain extent the future for democrats is, in fact, to move toward the center. Not everybodys going to agree with me. But unfortunately at the same time you have a lot of moderate centrist republicans, some of the trump critics, who were wiped out in the house of representatives, republicans who lost, like Barbara Comstock. It is interesting, the center has shrunk on the republican side and its going to be interesting to see whether or not the democrats are going to be able to move to the center now. Well, maybe some of those centrists lost, but they can be proud about who they are in the long run. Cornell, stay right there. Im going to bring Steve Kornacki yes. Hes at the big board. Hail Steve Kornacki for a moment. You are the champion of champions. I cannot believe you are still awake, i cannot believe how much you know, what youve done, you are my hero. Give us an update. Incredibly kind of you, stephanie. In a buildup i cant live up to the expectations. But montana, the senate race here, the votes are still coming in, it is still too close to call. We have been telling this story since the wee hours of the morning. Its remained jon tester, slightly behind Matt Rosendale, the republican challenger, the margin is 1,987 votes. But the story weve been telling you all night, and its really crystallizing right now, where are the outstanding votes from . It really does look like the republican areas, the strongly republican areas are all reported and it leaves you with supposed to click mizzoula here we go, a big democratic area, university of montana, there is still a lot of vote to come there. There is still a fair amount of vote to come from cascade county. There is still a fair amount of vote to come from the bozeman area. A significant number of votes to come there. If its about a 2,000 vote gap you can certainly look at the outstanding vote there and see a path for tester to get in the lead. Weve been saying it for hours now. He has still not caught rosendale, but we are running out of republican areas from the state to pad that lead for rosendale. Tester still has to leapfrog him, but you can still see the path for him to do that. Arizona, you mentioned this a moment ago. The margin, 15,000 votes. Were getting one report on the ground there, trying to track down, that we may not it may not be until thursday that we get more votes out of maricopa county. Hundreds of thousands of vote we may not get until thursday. A minute ago, that outstanding governors race in connecticut now, ned lamont, a Radio Station in new haven, connecticut that says Bob Stefanowski got on the air and conceded. He was leading all night and in the last couple of hours lamont took the lead, hartford and bridgeport, two largest cities in the state, overwhelmingly democrat democratic. Stefanowski ran out of real estate. In georgia, unknown number of absentee and provisional pal lots, if there are enough of them we expect they probably would break democratic. Would it be enough to bring kemp under 50 and force a runoff . Possible. Think of what we saw if you were awake overnight in wisconsin where that race was neck and neck and they found a bunch of absentee ballots in Milwaukee County, 47,000 of them, broke overwhelmingly or a late batch of absentee provisionals can change one of these races. Steven quickly, ted metz. Its preventing both from getting that 50 mark. That would be his effect. That would force it into a runoff. Georgia, very unique among states doing this for a governors race. My goodness. Steve kornacki, again, bravo to you my friend, no one quite like steve. Coming up, women winning big taking at least 110 seats between the house and the senate. That, my friends, is a record. So what will their impact be . Im going to say right here, at least an uptick in emotional intelligence. 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