Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Thomas Roberts 201506

MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Thomas Roberts June 19, 2015

It wasnt me. It was god. He used me as a vesvessel. If anybody is a hero it is him. It was through him that everybody happened. I asked long time mayor joe riley about dills this morning. What did he think about debbie dis. Heres his response. Well, its a wonderful american story. When we got that go i in custody, an automobile gasp of relief was heard in our community and in peoples hearts. Nbcs adam riess is joining me now. Lets talk about the arraignment and whats going to happen. Its ironic and amazing it must be a really small jail because hes actual he in the cell next to the officer accused of killing walter scott. Now, the bond hearing will be in about an hour from now. Very short hearing. We expect they will probably not even be considered because hes a flight risk and hes also a threat to these. The governor calling for the Death Penalty. Hes charged with nine counts of murder, plus one count of criminal possession of a weapon. We expect it to be very brief and video length. Thats coming up coming roughly in about an hours time. As you talk about we will have that on closed Circuit Television. Its really interesting now, adam, that we see the signature of this young man. Were learning more about his story and his friends. He wasnt afraid to quickly confessed when they apprehended him in shelby. He told officers there at the scene that he almost didnt go through with it but people here at the church behind us were so nice and kind to him, that never the less he said he had to go through with his mission. Boggles the mind when we hear about that detail knowing he arrived around 8 00 p. M. And then opened fire starting at 9 00. We will talk to him because coming up as we point out the arraignment is going to be on closed sir cut television. We will carry that live here on msnbc. Nbcs adam riess, well let you get back to work. Tonight several vigils are planned to remember the victims. The first is at 6 00 p. M. Meanwhile this tragedy renewed the debate over gun control in america. President obama pointedly brought it up in his comments yesterday. I want to remind you what he had to say. Ive had to make statements like this too many times. Communities like this have had to endure tragedies like this too many times. We dont have all the facts but we do know that once again, innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict arm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun. Joining me right now is former state representative here in South Carolina ba cary sellers. We hear the president talking about the matter of gun control in this country, weve got to have a bigger conversation collectively. You were showing me this article on politico that was pretty shocking to you. Recount what you just read. Well, it was a member i believe his name was mr. Cotton of the nra board, who blamed my good friend senator pinckney for not only his own death but the death of eight others. Before i deal with that type of ignorance. And even before we start having these discussions about race and gun control, this Community Still has to grieve. Were only 36 hours out. As you know were standing in front of the church still behind that church are the cars still parked there from the victims. For bible study. So i mean our heart is still aching. Before im able to talk critically and substantively about issues that deranged people such as this man who reeked this havoc dont get weapons i want to make sure these families are lifted up. How hard is that to run those parallel parallel track because people want to get political in a very sad time. Right now as you point out, it is still an active crime scene. Many of us in this community will still be here when the cameras leave. Were going to still be here when when everyone stops talk about what happened at the ame Charleston Church massacre. It is difficult. These discussions do have to happen. They are very distinct discussions. We have to have a conversation about race and a conversation about guns. Right now i want to have a conversation to make sure that progress we made in this state over the past 30 40 50, 60 years which is so fragile doesnt fall apart. Nikki haley appeared on the klt today show about whether or not this should be deemed a hate crime. Any time theres a traumatic situation people want something to blame. They always want something to go after. There is one person to blame here, a person filled with hate a person that does not define South Carolina, and we are going to focus on that one person. Shes talking about the fact that he does not define South Carolina, that this hate can be overcome. Maybe not legislatively right now but do you think down the line that once the cameras do go away and everything does settle down here, that that mission of the reverend who wanted to make sure one of this greatest things was to make sure the police had body cameras. Do you think that conversation should be taken up down the line . I appreciate everything that my good friend nikki haley actually said today. Shes actually been very on point with tissues that shes talked about. She feels much like we do because weve actually served with pinckney. We know him. Yes. She made some great comments today. I wont let her off the hook in regards to us not being able to do anything legislatively. One of the first things they can do is take the Confederate Flag down, a symbol of so much despair. There are things that they can do legislatively to help us get beyond this point that were at today. Nd talking about the Confederate Flag that is on the front page. Talk about the fact that that is still flying in the capitol here. We know that there were learnings and aspirations of the alleged suspect to have these affiliations in that regard of supremacy, talking to his friends about that. How is that not a hard core reminder all the time of Racial Division and racial strife if thats allowed to stay flying . Well, i served in the General Assembly for eight years. I got elected, i wasford nate enough to have people believe in me when i was 21 22 years old. Every time i got tired i would go outside and take a deep breath and you realize youre taking a deep breath under the auspices of the Confederate Flag. Weve been trying. I dont want people to think this is not an effort that has not been made before. But unfortunately i think it took nine lives for us to even begin that conversation. So we are having a conversation about gun control. Were having a conversation about race. Were having a conversation about the Confederate Flag. Were having a conversation about all of these things that senator pinckney was trying to do. Those conversations will come in due time. I want the world to reach out its arms and hug South Carolina hug this community. I want people to be prayerful and i want people to uplift these victims. With all due respect to you and every person who wants to talk about the mental state of the shooter, i could really careless. I want to talk about the lives lived, the lives lost and the families they touched. We will be celebrating them tonight at a vigil taking place here at the college of charleston. Thank you for your coverage. Its been amazing. Thank you. Were hearing there about what should be the focus here as we stand out in a blistering sun. I dont know how youre not sweating. I am sweating. But as we talk about the fact that these vigils will be held tonight, we want to learn more about who this suspect is and our cristkristen welker has details on that. Thomas good afternoon. The police chief tells me the arrest happened yesterday at 10 45 a. M. About 15 minutes after police had gotten a typical from debbie dills who works that the flower shop behind me. She was on her way to work on highway 74 and she said she thought she recognized the suspect in the car in front of her from news reports that she had seen the previous night. She called her boss here at the flower shop. He called police and just moments later, police started chasing the suspect and were able to arrest him. Heres what debbie dills had to say about yesterdays stunning events. I seen him in the car. I seen his hair cut which was the, you know the bowl cut. And i thought, no i mean because it was just getting too coincidental or whatever. And i actually i mean i kind of had a bad feeling in my stomach. I had that feeling that something just wasnt right. So i went on around him and i got in front of him. When i got in front of him i looked back and i saw the front tag that they had showed on the news, that it was like a white tag with some kind of emblem in the middle and they never could say for sure what that was. You know. So i went ahead and got off on my exit to come here. And but something just kept nagging at me. You know what if what if. Reporter now, the police chief tells me that the suspect was taken into custody without incident. He didnt have any weapons on his person although they didnt search his car. The car and of course the suspect were sent to charleston South Carolina. They have the lead on this investigation. Today dills tells me her thoughts and prayers are with those who are mourning in neighboring South Carolina. Thomas, back to you. Kristen welker thank you so much. What happens at mother emanuel wednesday night has people on high alert not just in charleston but around the country as we look at issues police in Richmond Virginia rushed to a church last night after a man showed up with what appeared to be a machete tapping on the glass and shouting racial threats. The past ter of the church ordered all the doors to be locked. Police caught the man and took him on to the hospital for evaluation. As i said people are on high alert because of what took place here and, as you can see, there are still many people showing up with flowers here in front of mother emanuel to remember the victims. Tonight at the college of charleston there will be a vigil. There have also been Mother Emanuel Hope Fund set up. The mayor was here earlier talking about a 25,000 donation that he heard of at 11 00 a. M. That was coming up, that came in to the fund already. Coming up were going to talk more about the nine people that were lost here two nights ago and remember them after this. My heart goes out to the people of emanuel and to the people of charleston. I pray for a community that i know is in pain. And with the hope that tragedies like these will one day come to an end. Do you want to know how hard it can be to breathe with copd . It can feel like this. Copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. Spiriva is a oncedaily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that helps open my airways for a full 24 hours. Spiriva helps me breathe easier. Spiriva respimat does not replace rescue inhalers for sudden symptoms. Tell your doctor if you have kidney problems, glaucoma, trouble urinating, or an enlarged prostate. These may worsen with Spiriva Respimat. Discuss all medicines you take even eye drops. 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Putting on a movie. Im trying to watch the game here. Look i need this right now ok . Come on i dont want to watch that. Too bad this is happening. Fine, what if i just put up the x1 sports app right here. Ah jeez its so close. He just loves her so much. Do it. Come on. Do it. Come on yes awww, yes that is what im talking about. Baby. Call and upgrade to get x1 today. My mama is a godfearing woman. She loved everybody with all her heart. And to the other families im sorry about what happened. Obviously you guys are devastated as we are. That was Chris Singleton talking about his mom Sharonda Coleman singleton who died inside this church behind me at the hands of the gunman dylann roof. Her son saying that he will forgive. What we know going on in the community there have already been many vigils but there will be another one at 6 00 to honor the souls killed at the church. Three men and six women. Some were parents where they hold prominent posts. Others were just Getting Started in their careers. One being a 26yearold, recently graduated from college. But the most recognizable figure, the beloved pastor clementa pinckney, married father of two, elected to the state senate when he was just 23 years old. Sharonda Coleman Singleton was a minister, speech therapist, kids track coach and the mom of two sons and a daughter. Cynthia hurd was a librarian in charleston for three decades and all 16 branches were closed in her honor yesterday. The one that she serviced will be named after her. And the reverend depayne middletondoctor leaves behind four children. She retired from a job helping boost services for the poofrr. We had an opportunity to speak with her niece. The youngest victim 26yearold Tywanza Sanders known mainly as ty. Hes the one that recently graduated with a degree in business administration. Just 26 years old. The oldest victim 87yearold Susie Jackson was a grandmother, a great grandmother. Also looking forward to going on a church bus trip to chicago on sunday. Jacksons cousin at the lance died alongside her leafing behind a huge family including four great grandchildren. And Myra Thompson was 59 years old married to a church vicar and the reverend Daniel Simmons sr. Was a retired pastor who was alive when rescuers reached the scene on wednesday but he later died at a nearby hospital as they were trying to save his life. William Dudley Gregory is a Charleston City Council member and lifelong parishioner at emanuel ame church. Thank you for being here. You knew all nine of the people that were lost inside the church behind us. How tough has this been for the community to come together because as we were talking about this is not just tight knit because so many families are related but the city is so tight knit. I think that we are one charleston. And this tragedy will prove that. I did know every single one of the victims. And luckily i was able to at least connect with at least five of them the day of the massacre. So on that day you had the opportunity to connect with five of them. How do you mean, you saw them in passing, spoke to them . What was the interaction . I was at a meeting at the church. And as our meeting broke, other started to come in. Prior to that however, i was in reverend clementas office when he came in. What i noticed about him that day was he just looked really really good. I mean just glowing. Ms. Susie jackson is a Family Member. She is my brotherinlaws mother. And when i leave here im going around with the family so that we can begin our healing process. As a city and as a church its time for us to bury the dead and start a healing process so that we can get to forgiving and make sure that we dont let hate breed hate. One of the major things that is going on we see the church is building the elevator on the side, the elevator project. Mayor talks about the fact that the fund has been set up has been overflowing with donation one being a 25,000 donation that kim with you earlier today. This is a community that is seeing an outpouring of love and support at a time of crisis. Are you worried thats going to dissipate after you do go ahead and have services to say goodbye to those that have been lost . I dont think that this will ever dissipate. Not only is the elevator one of our projects but the beautiful building right next to door to it which we just completed under reverend clementas watch, another project. We have several on the books. The next one is to make sure that we get this icon sanctuary, to last for another 12 or2 or 300 years for the children to enjoy. How do you do that lasting work and also provide safety to the parishioners that want to come back to this house of worship, such a sacred place, Historic Place and try and guarantee that . Well, its all about praying, planning and developing policy to make sure that this is not happen again. Our church is a church where our doors are always open. However, just as 9 11 changed this country, this massacre will change this city and change our church in terms of how we operate. Thank you for taking time to speak with me. I appreciate you. My best to your family. Sorry for the loss of your brotherinlaws mom. When we come back were still awaiting dylann roofs 2 00 p. M. Bond hearing. Plus, were going to catch up on other stories happening around today. But first, i talked to a man earlier today who knew one of the victims. Cynthia hurd from working with her at the library. Heres what he had to say about cynthia as he was an intern 14 years ago. I was shocked that he confessed. He knew he did it. As far as justice, i would like to let the Justice System play that out. For the families i definitely know they want justice. You fell in love . When you got married . When you had kids . When did you first fight to be considered a family . When you fell in lo

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