Administrations staff. Let me be very clear. Im 100 confident that no one on the Vice President staff was involved in this anonymous editorial. I know my people, margaret. You asked them . You know, honestly i dont have to ask them. Because i know them. I know their character. So will the real anonymous senior white house official please stand up some might be saying. More than two dozen Administration Officials have denied and are denying authoring that oped, President Trump saying the Justice Department should launch an investigation into who wrote it. The president saying its a National Security matter. Joining us now, sociegloria mar, and michael waldman. Host of woke a. M. On sirius xm. Should the Vice President
question his staff directly . He said he understand who they are and everything should be okay. If he wants to have confidence in their actual answers and their truthfulness, then he should ask them the question unless hes fearful of the answer. The emperor has no clothes. The people within the administration say theyre fully clothed. We the American People need to know. We need to know is what youre saying. I have to ask you this, michael. Since youre the master of words on this group here. Well all put our hands up to that and defer to you here. Who wrote that . Who do you think wrote that . One question of course is how senior was the person. Thats right. Journalists will sometimes call Someone Senior who the rest of us might not think is so senior. But the bigger question is it came right after the leak of the bob Woodward Book which has dozens of senior people saying the exact same thing. The question to me at least is not so much who wrote it and its a fun parlor game, but what are folks in congress and what are voters going to do about it . In all those words, what did stand out in the words . Not to put pressure on you, but i little pressure on you. Theres one word for example, lodestar which Google Search found mike pence uses and im sure he broke into a cold sweat which wh th when they figured that one out and apparently he hasnt asked the staff because he has such confidence. The Vice President actually mentioned the word lodestar. Thats how he defended the question. One of the claims made in the oped is that there have been discussions of invoking the 25th Amendment to even remove the president from office. Have you ever been part of a conversation about that . No, never. And why would we be . That was actually his statement on the 25th Amendment and he also is saying thats another list of what they did not talk about, have not talked
statement on tuesday for the same length of time. Its been a big problem. With this oped writer, i think they made a grave mistakes twofold. First as ben sass said, when you have a president whom they say is paranoid and prone to rage fits and making impulsive decisions, why are you going to feed that paranoia . Second, it feeds the base of the Republican Party who is saying that there is this deep state against trump. It just confirmed everything. And now you have prominent Trump Surrogates who havent exactly prone to pushing Conspiracy Theories like matt saying the kavanaugh hearings, Woodward Book are part of a massive conspiracy. I know twitter banned alex jones, fbut it seems others are taking up his mantel. Plus we have the claims of treason plus threats to National Security. Treason and the constitution is giving aid to the enemy. This is not treason. This is someone who is a disgruntled employer who is i do think the idea that the 25th Amendment might be invoked that to me is fan fiction for frustrated progressives. That was there for when a president is in a coma or has medically diagnosed dementim di Something Like that. Thats who the Electoral System chose. I disagree. The last living person who actually wrote the 25th Amendment was interviewed by me and he said it did include psychological issues as well as medical ones. So i would disagree that the 25th Amendment is off the table. I do think that it would be very difficult to do anything to trigger the 25th Amendment. Were going to have to leave it there. He thinks hes napoleon is the. Here we are the incapslation of the great debate going on right now. Thank you so much for being now fight both fast new Tums Chewy Bites with gas relief all in one relief of heartburn and gas tum tum tum tums new Tums Chewy Bites with gas relief
200 hours of community service, and a year of supervised release. This morning in his first live interview since his sentencing, papadopoulos spoke about how his case fits into the Bigger Picture of the Mueller Investigation. Take a listen. Do you think when the entire Mueller Investigation is finished that they will demonstrate that there was collusion between the Trump Campaign, between trump advisers and the russians . You know what, george, i have no idea. All i can say is that my testimony might have helped move something towards that. But i have no idea. All right. Joining the panel, Karen Defense Attorney and former cia operative and 2016 president ial candidate joining the table. Karen, that might be some might say one of the understatements of the year or two years or five years or a decade here if he were to be that seed ling that
started this whole investigation. We saw the article come out a week or two ago, right . His lawyers are trying to get leniency for his sentencing. Now we actually hear from him saying this very thing. It seems like when i sat there in front of Jeff Sessions and donald trump that they were kind of in favor of my suggestion. Hes saying that in interviews right now. What does that mean for sessions . Well, first of all, sessions obviously gave testimony and has been asked by multiple journalists, so this seems to be a little bit of a trofcontrover here. Does Jeff Sessions just not remember this conversation at the meeting . This is a little bit of a bombshell in the sense that he says theyre fully aware. Now, what was his understanding of the meeting . Obviously hes going to listen, some explaining needs to be done, right . What was his understanding of that question . Maybe he will say there might have been a meeting. We talked about lots of things. We talked about russia and korea
and talking to all of these people, so obviously we dont know what the context was, but this is definitely a bombshell. This seems to be in direct opposite of what hes already said. Evan, if youre sitting in the room, regardless of what side of the aisle you might have been on, and you hear that, hey, by the way im going to go set up a meeting with vladimir putin, what would your reaction be in this context with russians . I mean, its a clear obvious know. Any certainly any president ial campaign that even has half a clue about what its doing would reject that out of hand. But really this idea of a meeting, theres nothing illegal about a u. S. President ial candidate meeting with even someone like vladimir putin. Its a terribly bad idea politically, but thats not illegal. I know theres a lot of focus on that, but what i think is more interesting actually is what happens in the meet. What happens in the meeting, but even more importantly for papadopoulos, did papadopoulos tell the Trump Campaign that the
russians had dirt on Hillary Clinton that they had stored. Thats the critical issue. Papadopoulos says interestingly, and i dont think incredibly, but Special Counsel probably knows much better, that he doesnt recall telling the campaign that he had heard this from this professor mifsud, this man who is associated with russian intelligence. Thats very peculiar that papadopoulos is out bragging about this at a bar to an australian diplomat and claims to have told another diplomat but at the same time says even when he was seeking the campaigns approval that he didnt tell the campaign. I find that very hard to believe and very unlikely. Whether or not it was credible is interesting. After i talked to him i asked him to contact other people but i really didnt find him to be credible. Thats interesting because its half one way and half the other. Let me add to the detail that has been talked about so far in the last 2 30. You talked about the Professor Joseph mifsud. Where is the professor . Part of that link between the Trump Campaign and these potential discussions with russians may have died. Might be missing now just to add another layer to the story. So the question is, as this goes forward for mueller, what does this all mean for his case . And what are we seeing in terms of the progress of this case, do you think . Well, i think all of the questions have already been asked. I think obviously hes on tv which he did a very good job with his interview for the first time. Was that coaching . Well, you know what . This is what struck me with the whole thing. He actually goes into detail how the fbi came up to him when he was at the airport and he was trying to put his passport into a machine and they put the badge in his face. I think the viewers have to understand that hes going to jail for 14 days for lying. One of the things that strike me both as a Defense Attorney and a prosecutor is how welling people are to talk to fbi agents when theyve just walk up to them or knock on their door. This is the perfect example that
please, go talk to your attorney first. Danielle, what are you hearing on your show in terms of As The World Turns shall we say in this very case . You know, i constantly here from my colleagues, they call in from all over the country. The reality is when you are a dog and you lie down, you wake up with fleas. These are the groups of people hes around. We have this whole mystery who done it in so many different areas because theyre criminal. Their behavior is criminal. You would not have to ask all of these questions and have all of this followup if they were transparent. Theres a reason why theyre not transparent about their relationships that they have, the meetings that they go on, whos in them, whos privy to them because they know theyre doing something wrong. That is the pattern we have learned over the course of these many, many, many months that make me feel like i am 116 years old because every day it is another lie. It is something that they left out, something that they forgot. Oh, i forgot i didnt have this kind of clearance to talk to
this person. No, you didnt. Youre covering up your tracks. Thats what they do. Thats what criminals do when theyre trying to hide bad behavior. I think that one thing ive already evan, im sorry. Theres evan one and evan two. The one thing everybody is missing is i think the white house is relieved George Papadopoulos is coming out and thats becoming a center of attention considering the week theyve had. Theyve already gone over George Papadopoulos. Its so nuanced that a lot of people have tuned it out and theyre saying you know what . Something happened. I cant keep up with all the details. Its coming at us at a friequic pace. They dont want to be talking about the oped and woodward and how randy went and testified before a grand jury and it looks like roger stone might be indicted in the next month or so. If i can jump in and say one last thing about papadopoulos. So papadopoulos says in response to questioning this morning, you know, im not sure if this will
result in a collusion or conspiracy charges against trump, but i probably helped things move in that direction. But then he also says i dont remember telling the campaign about the russians having dirt on Hillary Clinton. So my question is then what did he say too investigators that would lead him to believe he pushed things closer to conspiracy . What other piece of information does he have . 15 seconds and then ill get killed on the air ear. I thought this was obviously information we havent heard about. We are going to digest it and ask more questions and im sure mueller is going to have a lot more questions for a lot of people that were on the peripheral that will come center stage. Will it take us closer to ending it or take it closer to this investigation continuing and continuing. One thing i know is its going to take us closer to break. Karen, thank you for stopping by. We appreciate it. Everyone else stick around. Its a tale of two president s on the campaign
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in two months we have a chance to restore some sanity in our politics. We have the chance to flip the House Of Representatives and make sure the real checks and balances in washington. Well, 57 days until the midterm general elections and three more primaries just coming up this week by the way. And all sides are bringing out the big guns. You saw there this weekend former president barack obama after a year and a half away hitting the campaign trail. Sharply criticized the policies, directly criticizing the policies of President Trump and the republicans. It wasnt clear approximate President Trump was watching or sleeping, something he said he did during obamas previous speech. But he is tweeting today. Barack obama talked a lot about hope, but donald trump delivered the american dream. All the economic indicators, whats happening overseas, donald trump has proven to be for more successful than barack
obama. Well, trump and obama each have several more campaign appearances. Still unclear which president will help his party more. Lets bring our panel back. So who will help their party more, evan m. . Donald trump or barack obama . Well, ill say this about the midterms. I think the best thing the republicans have going for them is the state of our economy which is thriving. Look, im okay even if somebody who is very opposed to President Trump and the republicans contributed to that. The recovery was on the way during this administration. Its continued. Fine. The thing is the electorate has already priced that into the midterms and the president remains unpopular. You really have to work to have an Approval Rating at 40 with an economy thriving. What that means is any other bad news that comes for the republicans or the president then is theres only downward opportunity here. Not upside. Thats kind of looking at old school politics. My pocketbook is better today. Danielle, we have this other x factor this round, this last two or three years all set when we hit the midterms of all of these headlines. The op sed thed this week, the Woodward Book. The 18 lawsuits, the Sexual Assault cases. Will that overweight the pocketbook is my question . What i think is going to happen and i said this before, whats going to drive people to the polls is outrage. People are outraged. When barack obama stands up for over an hour at the University Of Illinois and is talking about sanity and civility and hope and all of these things, hes reminding the American People what a leader, what your president is supposed to sound like. Its supposed to act like. The dignity that is supposed to come with that office. I think that it was a stark contrast that he had that we havent seen because this has become our new normal. Twitter and new melt downs have become our new normal. I think the midterms will be a rebuff of him. The cadence and the language is different and opposite this current president , but evan, all the way down there, s. , there is whether the youth vote will be enacted and brought to the polls. Thats what the president , former president was saying. Hey, where is the youth vote . Youve got to get out there . I think the president is a Little Johnny come lately overall, the former president obama because the anger she is referring to is the Abundant Energy source and its being renewed at record pace. In the millennials only one in five identify with the Republican Party. Its a new study. Ive been studying this for years. Were seeing Voter Registrations across the country. The minnesota Sec