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Particularly along the gulf coast states. This is mtp daily, and it starts right now. Good evening. Happy monday. Im Kristen Welker in washington in for chuck todd. Welcome to mtp daily and what appears to be a political identity crisis for the Trump Campaign on their defending issue defining issue, immigration. We were told trump was going to deliver a major policy address on immigration on thursday. Then just moments ago, a Campaign Official tells nbc news that event has been postponed. No reason was given. This comes after a wild weekend of headlines after trump met with his panic leaders and advisers signaling he might retreat from his hardline approach on immigration. The Trump Campaign disputes those reports, yet his Campaign Manager says key aspects of his immigration plan are now tbd. But the candidate himself is pushing back against suggestions that big changes are brewing. Take a listen. We have to be very firm. We have to be very, very strong when people come in illegally. So youre not flip flopping . No, im not flip flopping. We want to come up with a really fair but firm answer. It has to be very firm. With just 78 days until election day, theres arguably no room for error here as some republicans ratchet up pressure on the rnc to abandon the Trump Campaign and focus on down ballot races. It cannot be overstated, illegal immigration has been trumps most consistent policy issue. The subject of his first general election tv ad that started airing on friday. Its also been trumps most uncompromising policy issue whether its sending back millions of undocumented parents of legal children. Can you just send 5 Million People back with no effect on the economy . You have to youll have to send people out. Look. What do you do . Were a country of laws. Or the entire undocumented population . How do you deport 12 million . How do you deport 12 million Illegal Immigrants . You do it because theyre here illegally. You do it. Well have a Deportation Force. Theyre going back where they came. If they came from a certain country, they have to be brought back to that country. Even if it means sending back entire families. Split up families . Deport children . No, were going to keep the families together. We have to keep the families together. Youll they have to go. What if they have no place to go. We will work with them. They have to go. Im joined by helen, director of hispanic outreach for the rnc. She was inside that big h line generating meeting between trump and hispanic leaders. Thanks for being here. Really appreciate it. Thanks for the invitation. Im delighted to be here. So lets just start with the big picture here. Which is a lot of people are confused about the trump strategy right now. Is he genuinely moving toward a shift on his immigration policy . And is that aimed at dealing with the issue of immigration, or is it aimed at reaching out to moderate republicans, independents, trying to win back their support . Well, i think what this is aimed at is the American Voters and coming up with proper policy that the Obama Administration has totally neglected. Despite the fact he promised hed deliver this in his first year in offense. The only promise he made to the Hispanic Latino Community and he lied and didnt do that. What we are looking at is that Immigration Reform is a very complex issue. And mr. Trump is working diligently. When he met with the Hispanic Advisory Council for trump on saturday it was very clear that he wanted to hear from these hispanic advisers what they thought about this issue and what could actually be done that was going to help promote meaningful legislation. And it begins with border security. Lets talk about specifically what happened in that meeting. And to be clear, by the way, there was an Immigration Reform plan that was put before the republicanled house and that failed to pass. So this is something yes, but theres but theres lets theres no question that both parties have failed in this regard. But the only fair enough. So lets talk about what donald trump wants to do. President obama made, when he had total control in washington, d. C. , he totally reneged on. Lets talk about helen. Lets talk about your candidate because he has made Immigration Reform building a wall, sending 11 million undocumented people back to their country. So what specifically was discussed in this meeting . Did he stand by his plans to build a wall n send 11 Million People home . He never said the word deportation and never used the word legalization. He was there to listen and learn from the hispanic leaders. What they thought was the appropriate way to go. He didnt give any indication one way or another as to what he would be doing except that he was very engaged. He was very interested. And he was very thoughtful in listening to what they had to say. So is he changing his tone, do you think . Is he open to changing his policy and potentially not building a wall . Not sending 11 Million People home . He was certainly open to listen to what they had to say. Thats the only thing i can tell you affirmatively because he did speak very clearly about religious freedoms and the importance of repealing the johnson amendment. He was very clear about trade and why trade needs to be renegotiated. Hes not antitrade. It need to be renegotiated. There were points he was clear about. When it came to immigration, he wanted to hear, and he did not give an opinion one way or another. And so i think that as he forges his policy, hes working to make meaningful legislation and that hes going to be working with congress in order to be able to provide meaningful legislation. His Campaign Manager was asked over the weekend if he still planned to have a Deportation Force. She said kellyanne conway, that was tbd. What is your sense of that specific topic . Is he still planning for a Deportation Force . I think what thats telling you is theyre working on their policy at this point in time. That its has to be very strong. It has to be very firm. But also notice that it also says it has to be fair and humane. When you look at this, some of the things mr. Trump was talking about to the Hispanic Group is that he totally admired and identified with their sense of work ethic, hard work, sense of faith and sense of family. And those are important issues in this particular area that we talk about immigration. Immigration, as you well know, its very complex. There are a lot of moving parts that are happening at the same time. And so its it takes, you know, if youll make it fair, how do you make it fair that, lets say you want to work with those who are undocumented here in the country. How do you make it fair that they get a legal status while those who are doing it legally have to wait eight, nine, ten years are put behind the line. Those are not fair to those who are doing it and how do you impede others from coming in. Let me read something you wrote in 2015. Providing a mechanism that will allow eligible undocumented immigrants to get on the right side of the law will be a boon for the American Economy and help unite the country. It is the right thing to do. You talk about the complexity. Im wondering if you would be okay with anything that didnt include some type of path to citizenship. Any policy that didnt include that. I dont think path to citizenship is absolutely necessary by any stretch of the imagination. Under president reagans amnesty plan in 1986, and i dont envision amnesty at all under donald trump. Do you see donald trump embracing a path to citizenship . I can tell you that hispanics didnt embrace it by more than a majority. Only 48 of hispanics who were offered citizenship under reagan took advantage of it. Is that a no . More than half did not. Well, what im telling you is more than half what they want, what i would argue is that they want to be able to stay here, to be able to work and not fear deportation. But theyre not necessarily interested in being u. S. Citizens. And i think that when you look at this case and you look at this point, i think you have to look at, what is, you know, the total package and how do you deal with the entire thing . You have to secure your border. How do you secure your border . How do you make it safe . Is it going to include a wall . It will probably be including a wall. In 2007, Hillary Clinton voted in favor of a double fence. Theres always been a physical barrier thats been used when it comes to immigration enforcement. Did he talk about the wall in your meeting . He actually said im surprised no one has mentioned the wall. And everybody said, well, we take it for granted theres going to be a wall because thats part of border security. Whats was his reaction to that . He braced it because nobody else did. What was his reaction . Did he say he is in fact committed to that . I did not say that. There were other members who said that. And so they he just he just listened. He didnt respond one way or another. He was very he was just very interested in hearing what everybody else had to say. And very quickly because im getting a wrap. There is a story in the Associated Press about the subject of minority outreach. And it found examples of racism, talk of religious war. When the ap actually reviewed some of the online exchanges with trump staffers. Can you respond to that . What is your reaction and to what extent does that you know, i have not seen that at all. I cant respond to something that i havent seen or i havent read. Let me read you a little bit. A Graphic Designer for trumps advance team approvingly posted a video of a black man eating fried chicken. A trump field organizer declared muslims were speaking to impose sharia law and those who understand kristen, i havent i go back to tell you, i cant respond to something that i havent seen, that i havent read, and until i do so, i cant provide any answer to you. Fair enough. Helen, really appreciate your insights. Thank you so much for the invitation. I appreciate it as well. Thanks for joining us. Nbcs katy tur is in akron, ohio, where donald trump will be addressing his supporters soon. Katy, we were told initially there was going to be a big immigration speech on thursday. Now were told its not going to happen. What is the latest that youre hearing . Does this just mean its postponed or has it been canceled . Whats your sense . The latest is that its been postponed. Also his event on friday in las vegas has been canceled. As of now. Unclear why those two events have been canceled or even rescheduled. The campaign is not saying. Eric trump this morning did say there would be an immigration speech on thursday in colorado. From the conversation you were just having, donald trump when it comes to immigration, its not been a complex issue for him. Especially when it comes to Deportation Forces. Over the 14 months ive been following this campaign, the idea hes going to get rid of or deport 11 million undocumented immigrants has been one of the main constants in this campaign. One of the only constants. When it was presented as a complex issue to him, his response is more often than not, it doesnt matter. They have to go. That is whats fair. So this idea that the campaign is now trying to say that its a very complicated issue is a new thing for the campaign. Certainly in the past theyve been black and white with this. If they do a pivot or make a general election moderation, that will be noteworthy. As of now, his immigration stance is up in the air, much like every other policy major policy he has. The muslim ban, taxes, and even the federal minimum wage. Kristen . All right. Katy tur in ohio, appreciate your reporting as always. I want to bring in tonights panel. Matthew kontinetti, molly ball with the atlantic and chris is a democratic strat ju ii iic stra. Thanks for being here. Matthew, let me start with you. You heard katy tur say this is a little up in the air right now. Weve been trying to really pin down the Trump Campaign on what specifically he is planning to do on immigration. But this has been the centerpiece of his campaign since the day he announced. What do you make of this strategy . Is it about reaching out to moderate republicans and do you expect theres going to be a real shift here . Im not sure you can describe it as a strategy. I think theres a lot of internal negotiation happening within the Trump Campaign now because he has a new team, a new set of advisers. Hes listening to people outside the circle of the Campaign Staff even now. And theyre telling him conflicting things. The time to roll out policy is during the primary. And thats when donald trump indeed unveiled his key immigration policies. The muslim ban, building the wall and Deportation Force. If he were going to revise those policies, the time to have done that would have been his convention. That gives you an opportunity to create, you know, what is the Romney Adviser said in 2012, shake the etchasketch. Hes missed that opportunity. You see a scramblie ining in oro create a new trump for the final days of the general election. Molly, do you see this as a scrambling, and doesnt trump run the risk of alienating his most ardent supporters if he does in any way move afrway fro his hardline position on immigration . Most could not be convinced to move away from trump no matter what happened. I think hes right when he says he could actually shoot someone on fifth avenue and theyd continue to vote for him. As matt said, this is something thats amazing that is still up in the air at this point and does seem its not the result of any particular strategy or plan. But really just scrambling behind the scenes. A belated recognition that something should be done to reach out to that mass of the electorate that wasnt listening to him during the primary. But thats difficult to do when youve embrace some of the policies hes embraced. So he can get a bunch of people in a room n tell them what they want to hear but thats not going to fix some of the contra dictions or issues with the rhetoric hes putting out there. Chris, weigh in on that point that molly makes. Is this too late to actually change hearts and minds, if that is the goal here . Its clearly a desperate attempt to try to reach out to not just hispanic voters but those remaining moderate swing voters still undecided. Weve got 78 days left. You have a very kind of stark political reality of how do you do that where you dont come across completely as it seems that youre flip flopping. Even worse, when it comes to the key issue that is defining his race. The nonsensical idea of a Deportation Force. Well if you come out and propose that, youll alienate your base. At a minimum, youre put on the defensive trying to explain its not a contradiction. To those hispanic or undecided voters that may be even open to considering that youll modify your position, they then just shake their heads and say, you see what people have been telling us about donald trump is exactly correct. I dont see this as anything but a desperate attempt to change the electoral reality he faces. As the democratic strategist, are democrats frightened he may be softening his tone . The damage has been done. You cant do a 180 on a position with so many few days left in this election. 78 days sounds like a lot. People start cementing their views and opinions and to try to change this position in such a dramatic way, it was right. You should have done this prior to the convention. And now to do it, i dont see how its done, and you actually went over people that have been suspect of your views and your positions all the way through this election. And matthew, i wonder about your take on the timing of this. Is it too late . But let me have you weigh in on the fact were hearing this ramped up rhetoric from surrogates. Particularly mayor giuliani, former mayor giuliani who seems to reinvigorate some of these health conspiracies over the weekend. Im going to take a listen. Go online and put down Hillary Clinton illness. Take a look at the videos for yourself. I think hillary is tired. She looks sick. Widely debunked claims, matthew. What do you think the impact is going to be . Almost zero, nil. I dont think its going to be an issue in the campaign at all. I dont know why mayor giuliani has decided to raise it. I know donald trump has raised it in the past. Of course, hes often raised criticisms of the physical appearance or health or stamina of his opponents during the primary. I can see why trump would introduce it again. Its not going to have any ej t effect on this campaign. One of trumps challenges at the root of this immigration discussion is an attempt to reach out to more minority voters, latinos. Were also trying to see him reach out to africanamericans. Were getting this ap story which i just says essentially indications there have been some racist comments made by Campaign Staffers. In some cases, some violent comments that have been made. What would the impact of that be just as hes trying to turn the page with these critical voters . It makes it harder to do any attempt, if there will be an attempt to turn the page. Id disagree in that i do think there are people who wont really engage with this campaign until after labor day. And if you look at polls, you see both candidates substantially under 50 which means in most of the polls which means there are a lot of voters who still feel ambivalent, torn. Ive spoken to some of these undecided voters who seem turned off from what theyve heard. Any of this stuff that reinforces the toxic fever swamp, conspiracy theory, racist stuff that has clung to trump through this campaign which he has made almost no effort to distance himself from, i think that just complicates any attempt he might make to build bridges with those voters. We reached out to the Kristen Welker<\/a> in washington in for chuck todd. Welcome to mtp daily and what appears to be a political identity crisis for the Trump Campaign<\/a> on their defending issue defining issue, immigration. We were told trump was going to deliver a major policy address on immigration on thursday. Then just moments ago, a Campaign Official<\/a> tells nbc news that event has been postponed. No reason was given. This comes after a wild weekend of headlines after trump met with his panic leaders and advisers signaling he might retreat from his hardline approach on immigration. The Trump Campaign<\/a> disputes those reports, yet his Campaign Manager<\/a> says key aspects of his immigration plan are now tbd. But the candidate himself is pushing back against suggestions that big changes are brewing. Take a listen. We have to be very firm. We have to be very, very strong when people come in illegally. So youre not flip flopping . No, im not flip flopping. We want to come up with a really fair but firm answer. It has to be very firm. With just 78 days until election day, theres arguably no room for error here as some republicans ratchet up pressure on the rnc to abandon the Trump Campaign<\/a> and focus on down ballot races. It cannot be overstated, illegal immigration has been trumps most consistent policy issue. The subject of his first general election tv ad that started airing on friday. Its also been trumps most uncompromising policy issue whether its sending back millions of undocumented parents of legal children. Can you just send 5 Million People<\/a> back with no effect on the economy . You have to youll have to send people out. Look. What do you do . Were a country of laws. Or the entire undocumented population . How do you deport 12 million . How do you deport 12 million Illegal Immigrants<\/a> . You do it because theyre here illegally. You do it. Well have a Deportation Force<\/a>. Theyre going back where they came. If they came from a certain country, they have to be brought back to that country. Even if it means sending back entire families. Split up families . Deport children . No, were going to keep the families together. We have to keep the families together. Youll they have to go. What if they have no place to go. We will work with them. They have to go. Im joined by helen, director of hispanic outreach for the rnc. She was inside that big h line generating meeting between trump and hispanic leaders. Thanks for being here. Really appreciate it. Thanks for the invitation. Im delighted to be here. So lets just start with the big picture here. Which is a lot of people are confused about the trump strategy right now. Is he genuinely moving toward a shift on his immigration policy . And is that aimed at dealing with the issue of immigration, or is it aimed at reaching out to moderate republicans, independents, trying to win back their support . Well, i think what this is aimed at is the American Voters<\/a> and coming up with proper policy that the Obama Administration<\/a> has totally neglected. Despite the fact he promised hed deliver this in his first year in offense. The only promise he made to the Hispanic Latino Community<\/a> and he lied and didnt do that. What we are looking at is that Immigration Reform<\/a> is a very complex issue. And mr. Trump is working diligently. When he met with the Hispanic Advisory Council<\/a> for trump on saturday it was very clear that he wanted to hear from these hispanic advisers what they thought about this issue and what could actually be done that was going to help promote meaningful legislation. And it begins with border security. Lets talk about specifically what happened in that meeting. And to be clear, by the way, there was an Immigration Reform<\/a> plan that was put before the republicanled house and that failed to pass. So this is something yes, but theres but theres lets theres no question that both parties have failed in this regard. But the only fair enough. So lets talk about what donald trump wants to do. President obama made, when he had total control in washington, d. C. , he totally reneged on. Lets talk about helen. Lets talk about your candidate because he has made Immigration Reform<\/a> building a wall, sending 11 million undocumented people back to their country. So what specifically was discussed in this meeting . Did he stand by his plans to build a wall n send 11 Million People<\/a> home . He never said the word deportation and never used the word legalization. He was there to listen and learn from the hispanic leaders. What they thought was the appropriate way to go. He didnt give any indication one way or another as to what he would be doing except that he was very engaged. He was very interested. And he was very thoughtful in listening to what they had to say. So is he changing his tone, do you think . Is he open to changing his policy and potentially not building a wall . Not sending 11 Million People<\/a> home . He was certainly open to listen to what they had to say. Thats the only thing i can tell you affirmatively because he did speak very clearly about religious freedoms and the importance of repealing the johnson amendment. He was very clear about trade and why trade needs to be renegotiated. Hes not antitrade. It need to be renegotiated. There were points he was clear about. When it came to immigration, he wanted to hear, and he did not give an opinion one way or another. And so i think that as he forges his policy, hes working to make meaningful legislation and that hes going to be working with congress in order to be able to provide meaningful legislation. His Campaign Manager<\/a> was asked over the weekend if he still planned to have a Deportation Force<\/a>. She said kellyanne conway, that was tbd. What is your sense of that specific topic . Is he still planning for a Deportation Force<\/a> . I think what thats telling you is theyre working on their policy at this point in time. That its has to be very strong. It has to be very firm. But also notice that it also says it has to be fair and humane. When you look at this, some of the things mr. Trump was talking about to the Hispanic Group<\/a> is that he totally admired and identified with their sense of work ethic, hard work, sense of faith and sense of family. And those are important issues in this particular area that we talk about immigration. Immigration, as you well know, its very complex. There are a lot of moving parts that are happening at the same time. And so its it takes, you know, if youll make it fair, how do you make it fair that, lets say you want to work with those who are undocumented here in the country. How do you make it fair that they get a legal status while those who are doing it legally have to wait eight, nine, ten years are put behind the line. Those are not fair to those who are doing it and how do you impede others from coming in. Let me read something you wrote in 2015. Providing a mechanism that will allow eligible undocumented immigrants to get on the right side of the law will be a boon for the American Economy<\/a> and help unite the country. It is the right thing to do. You talk about the complexity. Im wondering if you would be okay with anything that didnt include some type of path to citizenship. Any policy that didnt include that. I dont think path to citizenship is absolutely necessary by any stretch of the imagination. Under president reagans amnesty plan in 1986, and i dont envision amnesty at all under donald trump. Do you see donald trump embracing a path to citizenship . I can tell you that hispanics didnt embrace it by more than a majority. Only 48 of hispanics who were offered citizenship under reagan took advantage of it. Is that a no . More than half did not. Well, what im telling you is more than half what they want, what i would argue is that they want to be able to stay here, to be able to work and not fear deportation. But theyre not necessarily interested in being u. S. Citizens. And i think that when you look at this case and you look at this point, i think you have to look at, what is, you know, the total package and how do you deal with the entire thing . You have to secure your border. How do you secure your border . How do you make it safe . Is it going to include a wall . It will probably be including a wall. In 2007, Hillary Clinton<\/a> voted in favor of a double fence. Theres always been a physical barrier thats been used when it comes to immigration enforcement. Did he talk about the wall in your meeting . He actually said im surprised no one has mentioned the wall. And everybody said, well, we take it for granted theres going to be a wall because thats part of border security. Whats was his reaction to that . He braced it because nobody else did. What was his reaction . Did he say he is in fact committed to that . I did not say that. There were other members who said that. And so they he just he just listened. He didnt respond one way or another. He was very he was just very interested in hearing what everybody else had to say. And very quickly because im getting a wrap. There is a story in the Associated Press<\/a> about the subject of minority outreach. And it found examples of racism, talk of religious war. When the ap actually reviewed some of the online exchanges with trump staffers. Can you respond to that . What is your reaction and to what extent does that you know, i have not seen that at all. I cant respond to something that i havent seen or i havent read. Let me read you a little bit. A Graphic Designer<\/a> for trumps advance team approvingly posted a video of a black man eating fried chicken. A trump field organizer declared muslims were speaking to impose sharia law and those who understand kristen, i havent i go back to tell you, i cant respond to something that i havent seen, that i havent read, and until i do so, i cant provide any answer to you. Fair enough. Helen, really appreciate your insights. Thank you so much for the invitation. I appreciate it as well. Thanks for joining us. Nbcs katy tur is in akron, ohio, where donald trump will be addressing his supporters soon. Katy, we were told initially there was going to be a big immigration speech on thursday. Now were told its not going to happen. What is the latest that youre hearing . Does this just mean its postponed or has it been canceled . Whats your sense . The latest is that its been postponed. Also his event on friday in las vegas has been canceled. As of now. Unclear why those two events have been canceled or even rescheduled. The campaign is not saying. Eric trump this morning did say there would be an immigration speech on thursday in colorado. From the conversation you were just having, donald trump when it comes to immigration, its not been a complex issue for him. Especially when it comes to Deportation Force<\/a>s. Over the 14 months ive been following this campaign, the idea hes going to get rid of or deport 11 million undocumented immigrants has been one of the main constants in this campaign. One of the only constants. When it was presented as a complex issue to him, his response is more often than not, it doesnt matter. They have to go. That is whats fair. So this idea that the campaign is now trying to say that its a very complicated issue is a new thing for the campaign. Certainly in the past theyve been black and white with this. If they do a pivot or make a general election moderation, that will be noteworthy. As of now, his immigration stance is up in the air, much like every other policy major policy he has. The muslim ban, taxes, and even the federal minimum wage. Kristen . All right. Katy tur in ohio, appreciate your reporting as always. I want to bring in tonights panel. Matthew kontinetti, molly ball with the atlantic and chris is a democratic strat ju ii iic stra. Thanks for being here. Matthew, let me start with you. You heard katy tur say this is a little up in the air right now. Weve been trying to really pin down the Trump Campaign<\/a> on what specifically he is planning to do on immigration. But this has been the centerpiece of his campaign since the day he announced. What do you make of this strategy . Is it about reaching out to moderate republicans and do you expect theres going to be a real shift here . Im not sure you can describe it as a strategy. I think theres a lot of internal negotiation happening within the Trump Campaign<\/a> now because he has a new team, a new set of advisers. Hes listening to people outside the circle of the Campaign Staff<\/a> even now. And theyre telling him conflicting things. The time to roll out policy is during the primary. And thats when donald trump indeed unveiled his key immigration policies. The muslim ban, building the wall and Deportation Force<\/a>. If he were going to revise those policies, the time to have done that would have been his convention. That gives you an opportunity to create, you know, what is the Romney Adviser<\/a> said in 2012, shake the etchasketch. Hes missed that opportunity. You see a scramblie ining in oro create a new trump for the final days of the general election. Molly, do you see this as a scrambling, and doesnt trump run the risk of alienating his most ardent supporters if he does in any way move afrway fro his hardline position on immigration . Most could not be convinced to move away from trump no matter what happened. I think hes right when he says he could actually shoot someone on fifth avenue and theyd continue to vote for him. As matt said, this is something thats amazing that is still up in the air at this point and does seem its not the result of any particular strategy or plan. But really just scrambling behind the scenes. A belated recognition that something should be done to reach out to that mass of the electorate that wasnt listening to him during the primary. But thats difficult to do when youve embrace some of the policies hes embraced. So he can get a bunch of people in a room n tell them what they want to hear but thats not going to fix some of the contra dictions or issues with the rhetoric hes putting out there. Chris, weigh in on that point that molly makes. Is this too late to actually change hearts and minds, if that is the goal here . Its clearly a desperate attempt to try to reach out to not just hispanic voters but those remaining moderate swing voters still undecided. Weve got 78 days left. You have a very kind of stark political reality of how do you do that where you dont come across completely as it seems that youre flip flopping. Even worse, when it comes to the key issue that is defining his race. The nonsensical idea of a Deportation Force<\/a>. Well if you come out and propose that, youll alienate your base. At a minimum, youre put on the defensive trying to explain its not a contradiction. To those hispanic or undecided voters that may be even open to considering that youll modify your position, they then just shake their heads and say, you see what people have been telling us about donald trump is exactly correct. I dont see this as anything but a desperate attempt to change the electoral reality he faces. As the democratic strategist, are democrats frightened he may be softening his tone . The damage has been done. You cant do a 180 on a position with so many few days left in this election. 78 days sounds like a lot. People start cementing their views and opinions and to try to change this position in such a dramatic way, it was right. You should have done this prior to the convention. And now to do it, i dont see how its done, and you actually went over people that have been suspect of your views and your positions all the way through this election. And matthew, i wonder about your take on the timing of this. Is it too late . But let me have you weigh in on the fact were hearing this ramped up rhetoric from surrogates. Particularly mayor giuliani, former mayor giuliani who seems to reinvigorate some of these health conspiracies over the weekend. Im going to take a listen. Go online and put down Hillary Clinton<\/a> illness. Take a look at the videos for yourself. I think hillary is tired. She looks sick. Widely debunked claims, matthew. What do you think the impact is going to be . Almost zero, nil. I dont think its going to be an issue in the campaign at all. I dont know why mayor giuliani has decided to raise it. I know donald trump has raised it in the past. Of course, hes often raised criticisms of the physical appearance or health or stamina of his opponents during the primary. I can see why trump would introduce it again. Its not going to have any ej t effect on this campaign. One of trumps challenges at the root of this immigration discussion is an attempt to reach out to more minority voters, latinos. Were also trying to see him reach out to africanamericans. Were getting this ap story which i just says essentially indications there have been some racist comments made by Campaign Staff<\/a>ers. In some cases, some violent comments that have been made. What would the impact of that be just as hes trying to turn the page with these critical voters . It makes it harder to do any attempt, if there will be an attempt to turn the page. Id disagree in that i do think there are people who wont really engage with this campaign until after labor day. And if you look at polls, you see both candidates substantially under 50 which means in most of the polls which means there are a lot of voters who still feel ambivalent, torn. Ive spoken to some of these undecided voters who seem turned off from what theyve heard. Any of this stuff that reinforces the toxic fever swamp, conspiracy theory, racist stuff that has clung to trump through this campaign which he has made almost no effort to distance himself from, i think that just complicates any attempt he might make to build bridges with those voters. We reached out to the Trump Campaign<\/a> about that ap story and have not yet heard back. Great insights. Matthew, molly and chris, stay with us. Coming up, donald trump hammers Hillary Clinton<\/a> over the Clinton Family<\/a> foundation, while clinton is back on defense as more questions arise over her emails. 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Theyre the reason that i want to protect our community and our environment, and if me driving a that truck means that somebody gets to go home safer, then ill drive it every day of the week. Together, were building a better california. Clintons president ial fundraising numbers are in. Donald trump is raising 10 million more in july than he did in june, but Hillary Clinton<\/a> continues to outpace him. Clinton raised almost 16 million more than trump in july and even though she spent more than twice what he did last month, clinton still holds about a 20 million advantage in cash on hand. This week, clinton is continuing her fundraising blitz on the west coast with the help some of celebrities. Well take you there. Thats next. Michael hayden if he governs consistent with some of the things he said as a candidate, i would be very frightened. Gillian turner hes been talking about the option of using a Nuclear Weapon<\/a> against our western european allies. Max boot this is not somebody who should be handed the Nuclear Codes<\/a>. Charles krauthammer you have to ask yourself, do i want a person of that temperament controlling the Nuclear Codes<\/a> . And as of now, id have to say no. [bill oreilly sighs] developments surrounding Hillary Clinton<\/a>s emails. Nearly 15,000 additional emails from her time at secretary of state were found in an fbi probe. These documents are not new but they were not in the batch previously handed over by clintons attorneys in response to the lawsuit filed by the conserve can conservative Group Judicial<\/a> watch. The state department is now going through the emails and says they plan to anticipate releasing the first batch possibly in midoctober. Weve already committed voluntarily agreed in fact to produce Judicial Watch<\/a> any emails sent or received by secretary clinton in her official capacity. We still dont have a firm sense of how many of these 14,900 are new that we havent seen before. This as Hillary Clinton<\/a> is getting pushback from former secretary of state colin powell in the role in her decision to use private email. Andrea mitchell, host of Andrea Mitchell<\/a> reports joins me for more on all of these topics. Thanks for being here. Hi there. First lets start with this back and forth with colin powell. People magazine caught up with the former secretary of state over the weekend and he really cast a cloud on what secretary clinton has been saying. Tell us break this all down for us. He said theyve been trying to pin it on him the whole email controversy, the fact that she used a private email, that she testified to the fbi or told the fbi in her interview that the recommendation had come from him. Twice. He doesnt recollect once which was reportedly, according to a new book at a dinner party at Madeleine Albrights<\/a> house. He remembers writing a memo that personal emails had worked for him on his aol account because they did not have a comparable system for internal emails at the state department when he took over. He used all classified emails he told us, all classified emails were done on a state department desktop. In his office, not on a mobile device, none of those issues and he never suggested anything about her server or even thought about a private server. So he did not have a private server. Hes basically saying now to People Magazine<\/a> this has been reported and certainly to us in his official statement on friday that it wasnt comparable. And that she couldnt use him as an excuse for what she did. To what extent does this underscore the staying power of this story, the Clinton Campaign<\/a> has tried to turn the page so many times and yet here it is again in the headlines. Here it is again. Judicial watch releasing new clinton emails. 20 separate email exchanges relating to huma abedin and other advisers regarding alleged access from Clinton Foundation<\/a> donors. This will continue. And they know its going to continue. There are going to be more fbi emails the state department is now vetting that will be released. And the closer we get to election, the harder it is for her to get away from this shadow hanging over her campaign. Its having an impact. In our latest poll, only 11 of those polled said that she is honest and trustworthy. That said, she is, as some critics have said, the luckiest person alive because shes running against donald trump who is considered less reliable and less trustworthy in terms of being commander in chief. Absolutely right. And the other thing that continues to overshadow her campaign, like these twin issues. The Clinton Foundation<\/a>, we learned the foundation is going to stop accepting foreign donations, donations from large corporations. Donald trump seizing on this saying its time to shut down the Clinton Foundation<\/a>. Bill clinton himself writing an open letter to supporters writsing, if hillary is elected president , the foundations work, funding, global reach and my role in it will present questions that must be resolved in a way that keeps the good work going while eliminating legitimate concerns about potential conflicts of interest. Is this enough to quell the firestorm . What hes saying, theyve never before said that he is not going to raise money for the foundation. Hes going to step down from the board. Not going to raise money. Separate himself from it, although hell continue to support the work of the Clinton Foundation<\/a>. And supporters are pointing out as he did in his own email the foundation does wonderful work. It has given lowcost hiv aids drugs to people in 70 different countries. It has helped people in haiti. It has helped people all over latin america get jobs and with social services. Theyre saying the foundation itself should continue. What they havent answered is the question, why was it okay for her to accept foreign and corporate donations when she was secretary of state and not if she were to become president . Why would one be a conflict and not the other . And it is the question that continues to hang over her campaign. Andrea mitchell, thanks for joining me. I want to turn now to kasie hunt in los angeles with the latest on clintons fundraising efforts. Shes spending much of this week fundraising. Really some starstudded events. Whats on the agenda. Just a couple. Its kicking off today at the home of magic johnson. And its going to be attended by many of the titans of hollywood including bob iger and jeffrey katzenberg. Shes fundraising in this area in l. A. Shes going to head later this week up to Silicon Valley<\/a> where shell do a fundraiser at the home of tim cook, the ceo of apple. So theres that as well. Shes also going to be holding another event in l. A. That features Tobey Maguire<\/a> and Justin Timberlake<\/a> stepping in for dicaprio. This is keeping her out of the spotlight off the campaign trail in the traditional way. She plans one public event later in the week. Four out west. This is something the Trump Campaign<\/a> has seized on. Using wheres hillary. Donald trump has accused her of sleeping instead of campaigning. This is a pretty traditional way to spend the last couple of weeks in august. Americans are on vacation. Theyre not paying as close attention to whats going on. People are getting ready to take their kids back to school, dool all those lastminute things. After labor day this is all going to change dramatically. This is their last chance to make sure they maintain a financial edge over donald trump. We learned from those latest Financial Disclosures<\/a> that shes got 20 million more in the bank than donald trump does. He, of course, were not sure exactly how much, but he potentially has some personal flexibility through the fall because of his own personal wealth. They need to be make sure theyre ready to keep up. Kasie hunt tracking all the developments from the west coast. Thank you. And still ahead, as florida fights the spread of zika, new concerns the virus could spread across the gulf coast. Well have a lot more on what Health Officials<\/a> know and dont know about the potential longterm impact of the virus. Stay tuned. Ncial superstars pitch you investment opportunities. Ive got a fantastic deal for you gold with the right pool of investors, theres a lot of money to be made. But first, investors must ask the right questions and use the smartcheck challenge to make the right decisions. Youre not even registered; im done with you i can. I can. 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Craso come dive into disheser like the new alaska bairdi crab dinner with sweet crab from the icy waters of alaska. Or try crab lovers dream with tender snow and king crab legs. Love crab . Then hurry, crabfest ends soon. Im Hillary Clinton<\/a>, and i approve this message. Michael hayden if he governs consistent with some of the things he said as a candidate, i would be very frightened. Gillian turner hes been talking about the option of using a Nuclear Weapon<\/a> against our western european allies. Max boot this is not somebody who should be handed the Nuclear Codes<\/a>. Charles krauthammer you have to ask yourself, do i want a person of that temperament controlling the Nuclear Codes<\/a> . And as of now, id have to say no. [bill oreilly sighs] this is our, we hate to say, i told you so moment, but we told you so but kept saying it and kept saying it and republicans stuck their heads in the sand, and here we purpose it didnt have to be this way. That was florida congresswoman and former dnc chair Debbie Wasserman<\/a> schultz as the cases of zika virus in miami is now up to 37. Democrats and republicans are blaming each other for failing to pass legislation before Congress Went<\/a> on recess. Rick scott allocated an additional 5 million for zika preparedness and mosquito control. Zika zones have been identified in the wynnewood neighborhood and also parts of miami beach encompassing the popular tourist area of south beach. Officials are bracing for outbreaks in other gulf states, specifically louisiana and texas. Joining me to discuss all of this, dr. Anthony fauci, director of the National Institute<\/a> of allergy and infections. Good to be with you. You said over the weekend that louisiana is particularly at risk for zika after all of the flooding that we saw there. Can you update us on that situation, and are there any known cases in that region right now . No, there are no known local cases. What we have throughout the country, we have more than 2,500 of them in florida of what we call travel related cases. Mainly people who were infected elsewhere who come to the United States<\/a> either americans coming back or just visitors and when you have them there, they have the virus in them. We have mosquitoes throughout areas of our country, particularly in the southeastern part and along the gulf coast. When you put those two things together, people who were infected elsewhere with mosquitoes that can transmit it, particularly in that semitropical area around the gulf coast, you have the possibility of individual cases and even little clusters of cases of local transmission which is exactly what were seeing in florida. Given that and given the conditions along the gulf coast states, we would not be surprised if we see similar situations of either individual cases of local transmission or maybe even small clusters in places like texas or louisiana or other gulf coast states. The situation with louisiana that we discussed yesterday is that they have a significant flooding problem. The flooding itself doesnt allow mosquitoes to proliferate more. When the floods recede, you have a lot of standing water thats may not be flood stage but a lot of standing water where mosquitoes can actually breed. Thats what were talking about, about when you have moist climates in general but particularly if you have standing water. You have to be extra special careful that you dont have an increased denseities of mosquitoes and likelihood of their being an outbreak of single or a couple of cases. I want to talk about florida more in depth in a little bit but if you live in texas or louisiana, what should you be doing to protect yourself when it comes to that standing water youre talking about. One at the level of state and local officials and others at the individual person level. The state and local Health Officials<\/a> need to, as best as possible, not allow mosquitoes to breed in a robust way. You do that by cleaning up standing water in pots, pans, tires, what have you. Individuals around their own homes can also do that by emptying out the water. Also, where appropriate and where necessary, you can do spraying, backpack spraying, spraying on trucks and sometimes you dont think its necessarily ready for that right now but certainly in florida theyre doing that. Aerial spraying. The individual person, particularly if you are a pregnant woman, should protect yourself as best you can from getting bit by mosquitoes. And that is to the extent feasible. Stay indoors and air conditioned rooms and workplaces. Make sure the screens on your doors and windows are intact. And when you go out, we know its warm weather and it may be difficult to do, but wear light clothing that covers a substantial part of your body. And the part that isnt covered, thats exposed to liberally use insect repellent, particularly that has deet in it. And updatous the efforts to fight zika in florida. How many cases are we looking at right now . And obviously, were talking about the fact that congress has yet to get funding for that state to help fight the disease in a more robust way. Well, there are 500 travel related a little less than 500 travelrelated cases in florida. The local transmission, cases that originate in florida, there are about 36 of those cases. What we have right now is two areas, two circumscribed areas, a onemile radius in wynwood section north of miami and 1. 5radius in south beach section of miami beach where the cdc has recommended now that pregnant women do not professiontravel to that area because theres active transmission going on in those small areas. What we can do right now is just what i said. Make sure theres a very Aggressive Program<\/a> to control mosquitoes and we do need resources for that. You mention that. The cdc and the nih have now been waiting to get Additional Resources<\/a> which we have not had. So weve had to use money from other accounts to get to where we are right now. But weve reached that critical point where were essentially running out of money to do anything more. So we really do need some relief now with Additional Resources<\/a>. And dr. Fauci, obviously weve talked so much about the fact that zika can cause birth defects. Now were learning it might actually be able to impact adult brains. What can you tell us about those reports . Is that accurate . Well, the report is accurate, but i think we need to be careful because its a mouse study that showed that if you get an adult mouse and infect the mouse and it allows you to infect the mouse with zika. That zika in those mice have infected stem cells in the brains of these adult mice. The studies did not show any longterm affect functionally on the mice so although as far as the mouse study goes, its interest, and you need to Pay Attention<\/a> to it. I would be cautious about making an extrapolation to say that infection of an adult can damage adult brain because we have thousands and thousands of people who have been infected as adults with zika and we dont see at this point any indication that theres functional impairment of those peoples brains. Id be a little cautious about making any conclusions from that mouse study. Dr. Fauci, quickly before i let you go. Looking into the future, is this something we need to be concerned about in the coming summers or is this something that we could potentially contain this year . Well, we can certainly potentially contain it. I think when youre thinking about the United States<\/a>, continental United States<\/a> as an entire continent, i think its extremely unlikely because of so many issues including the conditions here that well have a widespread outbreak like they had in brazil n like theyre having in puerto rico. There are some sections like the one weve been discussing along the gulf coast that there is this possibility, particularly in the summer, of getting the individual cases and clusters of cases. What we hope to do is to suppress them enough so that we dont see cycling next year. When we had dengue with local transmission in florida it took about a year to two to completely get rid of the dengue. It stayed at a low level but was still there. Our goal would be to eliminate it completely from the continental United States<\/a> and hopefully ultimately from puerto rico also. Dr. Anthony fauci, thank you for all of that critical information. We really appreciate it. Good to be with you. Coming up, well round up the rest of the days political headlines. Thats next in the lid. Stay with us. Now she writes mostly in emoji. Soon, shell type the best essays in the entire 8th grade. Today, the only spanish words he knows are burrito and enchilada. Soon, hell take notes en espanol. Get back to great with the right gear. From the place with the experts. Office depot officemax. Gear up for school. Gear up for great. Next, former congressman Anthony Weiner<\/a> is Donald Trumps<\/a> latest target. Were back with the lid after this. Before taking his team to state for the first time. Gilman go get it, marcus. Go get it. Coach gilman used his cash rewards credit card from bank of america to earn 1 cash back everywhere, every time. At places like the batting cages. [ crowd cheers ] 2 back at Grocery Stores<\/a> and now at wholesale clubs. And 3 back on gas. Which helped him give his players something extra. The cash rewards credit card from bank of america. 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For those keeping track, it is day three since trump admitted regret for using words that may have caused personal pain. With that, its time for the lid. The panel is back with us, matthew, molly and chris. Thanks, guys, for sticking around. Matthew, i want to start with you. We spent a lot of time last week talking about the trump pivot but when you listen to his comments about Anthony Weiner<\/a>, doesnt seem like much of a pivot. It seems like hes going after personal attacks again. Right. This is the same attack hes been making against Anthony Weiner<\/a> since 2011 when the sexting scandal broke out and it actually made trump popular among many republicans and probably a few secret democrats at the time. I think its an easy target for trump. I dont think these words are whats going to cost him the election in november. Molly, have you seen a real pivot on the part of trump or do you think its business as usual . What do you think . Well, i think on the one hand, theres only one donald trump and as he has said multiple times, hes going to be himself no matter what. I think we are seeing some tweaks around the edges in terms of tone and rhetoric. I think some of the speeches hes been reading off the teleprompters and to give credit to his new campaign people, the speeches that hes been reading sound much more natural, much more in his voice, than the previous regimes and he has been relatively controlled in terms of outbursts in interviews and spontaneous things. As matt said, the weiner thing is nothing new. I think on the special trump scale that we rate him on a curve on such things, its a relatively less outrageous thing to say. Fair enough. Fair point. Chris, i want to turn to you now. Its five weeks until the first debate. We know donald trump has actually started prepping. The Trump Campaign<\/a> says its picked a clinton standin. We havent heard much about clinton starting her debate prep. Does she run the risk of underestimating donald trump . Well, i dont think you should underestimate any opponent in a president ial election let alone donald trump. Listen, i think its pretty clear, if you use a crystal ball what kind of strategy he will use. He will come out extremely aggressive. My guess is depending where the polls are, if they are where they are right now, he will be even more aggressive on the cusp of outright offensive. I dont think he will temper or change anything that we have seen over the last many weeks and months. I dont think there will be a pivot or changing of character. This notion that somehow we are seeing this trump 2. 0 is to be honest somewhat laughable when you basically go one day or two days where you go right back to the personal attacks on either media folks or folks that are no longer members of congress. That aint going to win you any votes. So my guess is, hes prepping for a lot of specific reasons having to do mostly with the fact that he doesnt know substantively the issues and positions that he needs to in order to articulate any kind of coherent policy position. I think that is going to be i think his biggest problem in those debates. Its not going to be enough to attack hillary. We will see, that is for sure. A lot of people will be tuning in. I know that. Matthew, i want to turn back to you. Donald trump has improved his fundraising numbers from june. Hes still trailing secretary clinton overall. Does the deficit hurt him, or is he starting to really ramp up this part of his strategy . Could he catch up . Well, you have seen that theres been some closing of the gap in the National Polls<\/a> over the last few days but the swing state polls still are very bad for trump. I think one of the reasons for that is he has been subjected to an incredible barrage of negative advertising from the Clinton Campaign<\/a>. Thats her cash advantage, pouring into negative attacks, effective ones against donald trump. His resources right now are just beginning to decide on which ads to run to counter that. I think it may be too little, too late. One note on the debates. Donald has roger ailes advising him now. Roger ailes played a key part in the making of the president richard m. Nixon 1968 and refashioning Richard Nixon<\/a> to make him more acceptable to a general election audience. I wouldnt be surprised if ailes and trump are going to try to do Something Like<\/a> that in these remaining days. All right. We have to wait and see. Great conversation. Unfortunately, we are out of time. Thanks so much for being here. R. And so many businesses rely on the United States<\/a> Postal Service<\/a> to get it there. Thats why we make more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. The United States<\/a> Postal Service<\/a>. Priority you whmade plastics that tmake them lighter . 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Charles krauthammer you have to ask yourself, do i want a person of that temperament controlling the Nuclear Codes<\/a> . And as of now, id have to say no. [bill oreilly sighs] and as of now, id have to say no. Americans are buying more and more of everything online. And so many businesses rely on the United States<\/a> Postal Service<\/a> to get it there. Thats why we make more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. The United States<\/a> Postal Service<\/a>. Priority you thanks for joining us. That is all for tonight. Chuck will be back tomorrow with more mtp daily. With all due respect starts right now. Im raalex wagner. Im john heilemann. With all due respect to donald trump i think we seed we need an adult in the room. One of the most critical counties in this years election cycle, a 12yearold boy is in charge of trumps campaign. We have a heavy dose of tbd tonight, including the influxiness of Donald Trumps<\/a> immigration plan. 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