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MSNBCW MTP Daily December 23, 2016

Mean for the future of american politics. We begin with a look at how far from the very beginning of this race that donald trump defied all of the laws of political gravity. Take a look. Top republican operatives were laughing at trumps flirtation with running. On a scale of 1 to 10, how close are you to running for president . Much more than five. He said he is serious about running for president in 2016. Its peanuts time as far as im concerned. Lucy is promising Charlie Brown she wont drop the football. Until donald trump releases that full government disclosure form, its hard to take him seriously. If he doesnt, todays declaration means nothing. Did the donald go too far . Taking aim ats en tor john mccains war record. Nearly every republican in the race pouncing. One demanding trump dropout. Lindsey graham called his opponent a jackass. Iowas largest newspaper calling for him to dropout of the race. I would be totally committed unless i think im not going to win. I cant see him competing. He might dropout before votes are cast in either state. New hampshire is a fiercely independent state that is known to surprise and although donald trump is up by a lot, those leaving the rally early on sunday told me they were going to see john kasich. In the New Hampshire primary . Zero. It was a madhouse in here yesterday. This was an effort by the stop trump forces, one gasp at stopping the man from being being the nominee. Veterans groups demand he apologize for criticizing the parents of a fallen soldier. Dozens had to say they disagree with trump. You think he is going to walk now . Whats your sense . There is a big question. That was a disaster for him. Donald trump apologizing for lewd comments made about women in 2005. I respectfully ask you with all due respect to step aside. Gold water had more allies in the Republican Party than donald trump. You expanding the map or looking for a dent in the wall to see if you can find a path . We are scaling the blue wall and crumbling it down. This is why we are not have to suffer through four years of donald trump. He has no ideology except the ideology. He will break laws. I should have given up in the campaign five times. I should have given up according to them, 10 times. I can take you over 10 Different Things that happened where people would have given up. They never gave up. So we have president elect donald trump. Hugh hewitt and nbc political analyst from the washington post. Also an nbc political analyst and molly ball from the atlantic. Well, molly, lets see. I heard donald trump wont even make it through the first year of the presidency. Donald trump will get impeached. He will quit. 16 years later we may look at him and he is still president. The defier of expectations is the marker. Its also how people just havent learned to stop underestimating him. Its amazing that the predict n predictions will be made when he has shown they are wrong. Nobody likes reciting history better than him. He loves to say they said i was not going to run. You know, its our job to be skeptical and a lot of skepticism was warranted after he had publicity flirtations in the past and broken a lot of rules of politics in a way that i think we should listen to and reexample whether those were rules in the first place. Whether any of this socalled truisms were real or our assumptions were wrong. They said he has a year for what the public wants to hear better than washington does. He hasnt been in toll ticks, he has been in the business of entertaining people. They are only norms because politicians decide to follow them. We never tested what would happen if a politician said no, im not going to do that. Im not going to follow any of the rules. Im going to weet when me to stop and talk off the top of my head. Im not going to take my security briefings. What donald trump as done is expose the fact that most of the norms we think of are fictional and only stand because of a gentlemens agreement between politics. Fascinating. I have been wrong more than anybody else this year. A lot of people. The of the reason we have been off is he was a potent Political Force and he changed the rules too. The blue wall existed because he built a coalition that exist and he built a Romney Campaign and we may have been expecting secretary clinton who i believed had this thing locked up for two years. Anybody would have failed because he is uniquely potent politically. Its interesting because there is something about the idea when barack obama was attacked by john mccain for being too big of a celebrities. There is something about it, our modern president s whether its clinton or bush or reagan, this works more often than we realize and we forgot it during trump. Thats spot on. These were overwhelming figures we are talking about. I think president elect trump is overwhelming and how he changes his own party. They changed in a fundamental way in becoming the party of trump. The issues and ideologies that they caulked about on spending and reform on domestic front. These are gone and he changed the game. A word that got overused and its a pot word. This is where donald trump is. The disruptor of our political system. He defeated the republican establishment. He defeated the bushes and the clintons. Both of them. I want to point out that barack obama didnt build that wall. Obama held it up. In the midterms, they were going for republicans when obama was not on the ballot and the democrats said there is nothing you could do. Thats not crew. And what would have thought that he win spinning in his grave, the Republican Party would be a putinite party to develop an affinity for russia. Im not sure this is a good for the campaign. He does have in common with reagan is the ability to rebuild the military. He promised to rebuild as robust as the times for president reagan. My first boss wrote a book about his grandfather and i think you will see President Trump calling president obama a lot. Even as kennedy called ike in gettysburg. More often than people realize. I think president obama is showing he is open to that. How does it make you feel as a conservative . Im fine with him taking advice with anyone. Im really fine with that. There was a set of models that got this right. Its our friends in the academic community. The social scientists understood there is sort of historic arks both with our economy and they were at this moment and the keyings to the presidency. He was not alone. A lot of them understood we were in a unique moment combined. It was a lot of things that gave trump an opening. There were a lot of models that forecast a clinton win. Every year there was a model that gets it right. He is making judgments based on the condition of the parties. Its not pure mundamentials. He was evaluating and not saying he liked this, but evaluating the continues. What did Michael Moore get right . He called them the brexit states. The number that comes out of this election is that the National Polls were right. They were pretty much spot on. Better than four years ago. They predicted she would win the popular vote and she did. He said these three states are uniquely poised. And to walk away from the notion that experts know what they are doing. Hillary clinton underperformed in exactly the three states. Wisconsin, pennsylvania and michigan. When he was inaugurated, the states are going to expect something more than just a carrier deal here and a carrier deal there. How is trump going to confront nafta and renegotiate trade policy. Can he really promise to bring back jobs, the industrial part of the country that are the rust belt . He answer is no. I will take away this. Nafta, i kept hearing it. I think the Clinton Campaign and we under estimated the potency. Nafta is a fiveletter acronym that is aletter word. Coming up, the 2016 campaign didnt just break the rules, it demolished them. What does it mean for the presidency and Campaign Politics in the near term. You are watching a special edition of mtp daily the no. 1 choice of dentists. Compared to oralb 7000, Philips Sonicare flexcare platinum removes significantly more plaque. This is the sound of Sonic Technology cleaning deep between teeth. Hear the difference . Get healthier gums in just 2 weeks vs a manual toothbrush and experience an amazing feel of clean. Innovation and you. Philips sonicare. Save now when you buy Philips Sonicare. But i keep it growing by making every dollar count. Thats why i have the spark cash card from capital one. With it, i earn unlimited 2 cash back on all of my purchasing. And that unlimited 2 cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business. Which adds fuel to my bottom line. Whats in your wallet . Generosity is its oyou can handle being a mom for half an hour. Im in all the way. Is that understood . I dont know what shes up to, but its not good. Cant the world be my noodles and butter . Get your mind out of the gutter. Mornings are for coffee and contemplation. That was a really profound observation. You got a mean case of the detox blues. Dont start a war you know youre going to lose. Finally you can now find all of netflix in the same place as all your other entertainment. On xfinity x1. He referred to my hand fist they are small Something Else must be small. I guarantee you there is no problem. I guarantee. Moving on. That happened at a president ial debate. He was talking about the size of his hands. Folk, normally you dont say stuff like that in public and tv. Millions of people watching. If you are running for president no less. Its not supposed to be what successful president ial cann candidates say. 2016 was the year where political norms went to die thanks to trump. Normally a Successful Campaign means you win the ad wars. He didnt. You raise more money. He couldnt. You have a unified party. He wouldnt. You stay on message. Never. Conventions matter. They didnt. Debates matter. You can argue he was 03. You dont flip flop or take 141 different stances. We counted. You rack up endorsements. The National Enquirer doesnt count. You keep the rhetoric in check. You avoid scandals and not feed them and you do not talk about the size of certain body parts. If you dont do all of those things, u usually you dont win. Trump did. The rest is history. Panelist back, joy, robert, hugh and molly. What changes might Carry Forward in a nontrump environment . Emphasis on candor and being available. Secretary clinton never did a truly hostile interview where she sad down with someone like me where you know it will be a conservative coming after you. She did not go into safe zones. She played it from the beginning. Trump went everywhere. He invest sifted on doing it from the tower that broke the rules, but everyone had to do it. He would do it at the beginning, every interview endlessly. That told candidates to engage and answer the question, even if its not consistent. I hope you are right. I worry thats not. What hugh said is campaign 101. This year when you showed all the years that were broken. The one rule that was in order to win, you have to campaign. You have to be on the ground in pennsylvania to win pennsylvania. You cant come in with beyonce and jay z and call it a campaign and air wars and ads dont win. Thats what i learn and it turns out to be true. Its also the case that there is no substitute for a movement. You cannot build through perspiration thaw dont make through inspiration. You can hire the staffers and have them check ought all the boxes and if you dont have people who believe in you who are passionate about you, then you wont get anywhere. I want to know, you better be good. You have work to do. You all raise great points and coming back to hughes, i remember in the beginning, you may remember this too. If you wanted to interview one of the 17 republicans running, you would get an email from a staffer saying 6. 5 minutes. They give you guidelines of what issues they wanted to talk about. Trump for all of his flaws, he would go on the phone forever. Why that worked i think in the social media age, im no expert, but he saturated. He doesnt do that anymore. It has been a while. He hasnt had a press Conference Since the summer. Hillary clinton was more available than donald trump was. She was on the prean and talking to the press on the plane. We have a hemry of being imprinted with how free wheeling he was. That has changed. Now he is on twitter and he gets saturation for everything he does. Thats the point. The other norm that was broken. The media is no longer the arbitor or the milter. He called her crooked hillary for an hour on television and reinfor reinforces the message on twitter. There is no aspect to the message and no one to refute it and no interviewer to intercede. He can essentially get around the press and im sure will continue to do so. Obviously when a campaign is successful, there are copycats. If we get copycats going down this road, dont we end up with the crudest and world wrestlinglike if we have two campaigns that engage the way they engage, attacking people and press and personalizing everything and making everything, what does that do to politics . They have become vulgar to use with an Old Fashioned word. One thing is the core vulgarity doesnt offend americans. We think people are more offended than they are. One of the more fascinating twitter discussions that i saw in late december was the idea that historians will not talk about the press coverage. They will look at the donald trump was the result of a culture 30 years in the making. Robert . Yes and no. As much as celebrity drove the populism, the voters i encountered were intrigued and entertained, but it was the economics he had to win. Crist American League is a fre kwenlt guest and the most Successful Campaign was the play by the rules and do everything the right way and do it the old style. He won by 21 points and beat trump in ohio. I dont know that he changed the model forever. He was ustr for george w. Bush. He said i will run on policy. He was a gentlemen. He was one of the darkest figures we see coming out was when evangelicals who flies in the face. I think it was pew that came out and said morality marries. It was difficult for that faction of the right to have any moral . Justice scalia is a small part. They knew what was on the ballot and the seat is vacant and they voted the interest, not that. Does that mean without the opening . Do you think then evangelicals would have been less supportive . Absolutely. 100 . I disagree. Thats fascinating. They supported him in the primary. They did, but scalia died in january, i believe. A lot of the evangelical voters, they knew trump was not one of them. They talked about the cracker, but he was a threat. They saw the state as a threat and he was a hammer to the state. Someone who truly disrupted the state on religious liberty fronts and others. I dont think you can ignore that trump said he was going to ban all muslims and a lot of people responded to that. A lot of christians who feel christianity is in a holy war with islam. Thats very small. I met a lot of people like that at trump rallies. U can lock at polls and a majority of voters believe in the muslim ban. Donald trumps own Campaign Said it was one of the most powerful messages and they meant to do it. Different messages than christians. I dont mean that. We are talking about broken political norms. Sometimes he did things that are just what you should do which is camp pain 101. He was also himself. He never tried to be someone he wasnt. Ultimately the greatest political advice you can get. It worked for bill clinton in 1992. It is sort of fascinating to go from gary hart and for having a woman not his wife on his lap. Thats one thing to be dinnered about. If he doesnt need to be a person that is worthy of a bit of reverence. Evangelicals will say it began with bill clinton. For will be difficult for the religious right, the component. They are a black crist man son kerveative. It will be difficult to make a moral case based on having supported donald trump. The more raw he got, the more support he found. The men said they cant say what they feel at work. The kids come home from college and cant say what they believe at home. What did they want to say . Is it on race . That is another thing he brought out. They want to be able to voice. The academics say you react to the president who is here. He is the least liked. We are going to pause here. We are looking ahead to the next big political fights and we will look at midterm races and who might be laying the ground work for a run in 2020. Thats ahead on this year end edition of mtp daily. Welcome back from the Iowa Caucuses to the debates and the conventions, mtp daily hit the road a lot this year. Take a look. This is mtp daily live from capitol hill and it starts right now. Maybe the best setting we have ever have. The architectural salvage center. Special coverage of the Iowa Caucuses. Good evening from a snowy manchester. Good evening, everybody. Good afternoon from las vegas. Live in miami, florida. Live from buffalo, new york. Our hosts are the lovely folks. Good evening at the red owl taf erp out west and coming to you live from seattle, washington. The other washington. Live in cleveland, happy hour here in cleveland. Inside the arena here, the Wells Fargo Center in philadelphia where the convention is now officially under way. What a location. Im chuck todd here at the intrepid sea and space museum. Live on the campus, it is the site of the first president ial debate coming to you live from the university of nevada in las vegas. Unlv, home of e running revs. In new york city. Its the near in gray for my beard as well. Much more of this coming up. After the break, we are looking ahead to the midterm mayhem and beyond and who we will be watching in the new year. First heres a look at some of todays top headlines. Oes. Incredible bladder protection in a pad this thin, i didnt. Think it would work, but it does. Its called always discreet for bladder leaks, the super. Absorbent core turns liquid to gel. I know im wearing it but no one else will. Always discreet for bladder leaks. Carrie fisher suffered a heart attack while on a plane traveling for london to los angeles. She was rushed to a local l. A. Hospital. Her condition i

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