U. S. Built facilities. And welcome to miami. The stage is set for the first democratic primary debate. Immigration is one of the big issues the candidates will confront. Welcome to tuesday. As if miami cant be more hot and humid, it is. Thank you, miami, feels like home. It is mtp daily. I am chuck todd in miami where it is hotter than usual ahead of the first democratic debate which kicks off tomorrow night on the stage. We begin tonight with breaking news on an issue dominating the political conversation nationally, the humanitarian crisis having to do with the migrants coming over the southern border. Amid reports of terrible, unsafe, unsanitary conditions at facilities that are housing Migrant Children, the Trump Administration border chief, the acting customs and Border Protection commissioner john sanders, is stepping down after two months on the job. Again, he was acting because his boss is the acting Homeland Security secretary. You need a score card to keep up with the temporary replacements in the administration sometimes. That news hours after the cpb said it was moving a group of 100 unaccompanied children into a texas facility where some of the worst conditions have been documented. So to give you a sense of some of the conditions, President Trump told the hill he would like to see some of these facilities give kids toothbrushes and basic toiletries, because now apparently they dont have them. At the same time, he is claiming his administration is taking care of migrants better than the Obama Administration did. Are you concerned about the conditions at these border facilities . Yes, i am, very concerned. And theyre much better than they were under president obama by far. And were trying to get the democrats to agree to really give us some humanitarian aid, humanitarian money. At this hour on capitol hill, there is intense drama over the fate of this humanitarian aid. We expect a vote perhaps soon on the hours version of the emergency legislation which would allocate 4. 5 billion for the white house request to address this dire situation with the Migrant Children. Speaker pelosi is battling a revolt in the progressive wing of the caucus who worry giving the Trump Administration any of the money will only be used to help carry out the president s aggressive tactics when it comes to immigration and at the border. Still, pelosi made a full court press today for support built in public and private, telling her caucus in a closed door meeting a vote against this bill is a vote for donald trump and his inhumane outside the circle of civilized attitude toward the children. She asked the caucus does anyone have a problem with the bill . And according to a democratic aid, the reaction was silence. Politically it is a test, an issue so deeply personal and political and yes, president ial. Kelly odonnell following the action, jacob sober off. Kelly, let me start with you. Where are the democrats on numbers here, and how many progressive democrats could pelosi afford to loose if were getting into the vote counting. Chuck, just in the couple of minutes that you have been doing your intro, we had a few updates from the committees involved here on capitol hill about what theyre voting on, and what is new is the progressives you referred to have been able to insert some additional language in the legislation that the house will consider tonight. At 5 30, step one of the rules committee will meet to prepare the legislation for a later full vote. So this will go into the evening. It is 4. 5 billion. The progressives want accountability and certainty as you pointed out, they dont want the Trump Administration to be able to somehow have consequences not intended by congress, unintended consequences that would go against the sort of policy of feelings of the democratic caucus. Look for things like additional help on the legal side, look for provisions to pull back from contractors who dont fulfill the proper requirements. All kinds of things to try to make the conditions better and keep away funding for things that democrats find not to be a policy they want to support. Kelly, i dont blame the progressives being skeptical. Every time they handed the administration what they thought was appropriated money for a specific thing. Reprogramming. They reprogrammed the money. How do they know these guarantees are somehow going to be followed by this administration. Putting in language to anticipate some of the ways it could be used. For example, writing and language, to not take money from this pot or that pot to use for something else. It is more of writing a contract where youre anticipating what an adversary would do. Heres the other problem, chuck. We have limited time until the fourth of july recess, and the senate bill which nancy pelosi said is a good bill is very different than the house bill. And the president has committed to backing the senate bill. So we have to still get through the house and then see if the house and senate can find some meet in the middle point that will be okay for progressives that said they had to fight this one. You pointed out, Speaker Pelosi said to her members, a vote no on this is a vote for donald trump. So she has really been pushing for unity in her caucus. She says unity is power. Thats serious ratcheting up. I have a feeling you dont get to watch the debate, they have to make a bill become a law in the next 72 hours, while we deal with a couple of debates here. Kelly odonnell, thanks very much. Jacob, lets get on it. This money is needed. Number one, hhs is where the unkpd Migrant Children are housed, taken care of. By all indications, everything i have seen, hhs has competent licensed child care professionals dealing with, we have to call it what it is, surge, record numbers of families coming across the border at this point. I agree with you. I dont think the fight for more transparency and accountability is not one worth having. Thats always been the issue. I want to put up something that alexandria ocasiocortez said. We need to stop funding detention of children under any and all circumstances. What nancy pelosi is asking them to do is look, youve got to fund these and yes, theyre going to be housed at these centers. And that seems to be if you hold this position the way aoc holds this position, it is a hard vote. The argument is a necessary evil. We have to have this Immigration Enforcement system to keep the trains running. I think it is a good debate to have. For 30 years, starting with the clinton administration, prevention through deterrence, had this, every time you have more deterrence, more people die trying to cross. Right now it is levels we have never seen before in the Trump Administration. They keep putting out messages that in the past ten years, nobody died, no child died in custody. Six have died in the course of the last year. If theres anytime to debate the system, it is now. The acting cpb guy leaves because the guy who had been the confirmed cpb guy is the acting dhs secretary. What does it mean practically for facilities run at the border. Im sorry theres command and control has to mean something . Made me think back to a year ago when i was inside the Border Patrol processing center, agents would say as an aside, we are stretched to the max, stressed out. We dont know what were supposed to do today versus tomorrow. Imagine how they feel now. They dont know who theyre supposed to go to, that person is afraid to do anything. At the end of the day, who makes the policies theyre supposed to carry out. Border patrol gets a bad rap. Theyre Law Enforcement officers that are like cops on a beat. There are good cops and bad cops. When they have this level of disarray at the top, how are you supposed to do your job. Really quick. Whether you like it or not, youre the networks expert on immigration laws. Congratulations on that. Elizabeth warren is joining julian castro, talking about this later, wants to decriminalize Asylum Seekers, decriminalize immigration. What would that mean for Border Patrol . The reality is many people that are coming here in order to get into this country are declaring asylum. What many of them are doing is looking to reunite with family members that are here. One option, according to some experts, giving people family reunification visas to come here, not go through the asylum process. I would be curious to see if thats part of the decriminalization proposal. And then of course there is a practical expense thats come with trying to enforce asylum laws. At the end of the day these are lies. Every day you are hearing horrific, horrible stories, and they can be stopped. In american custody. Thats the part. Were america, supposed to be different. Thank you very much. I am joined by someone who sits at the center of the drama on capitol hill. And also the democratic president ial debate. A democrat from california, happens to be the national cochair of the Bernie Sanders campaign. Congressman, good to see you. Your colleagues and yourself working hard to get some of the new addendum to the funding bill. From what Kelly Odonnell reported, are you getting this in the bill . We have basic Health Standards that need to be met. We also have commitment that unlicensed facilities cant last for 12 months. At this point i feel like well get a lot of progressives. I am curious, i understand the skepticism by aoc or others in the progressive caucus about appropriate ating money to something that you think youre appropriate ating it for, and finding out it is repurposed, especially when it comes to anything remotely touching the immigration process. Why are you confident that the new restrictions you are putting in arent just going to get ignored by this administration . Chuck, im not confident but the language is more restrictive. In previous appropriations, there was no restrictive language. The custom was an administration if they want to reprogram comes to congress, and congress exercises oversight. This administration didnt do that. Now we have explicitly prohibited the administration from transfers funds. We get 82 million more for basic supplies, diapers, toothpaste, than the administration wants, and theyre not allowed to use a dime for any other purpose. What would a is there any bigger deal to be done, is there a bigger compromise on how to deal with the asylum laws . Is there anything in here that is remotely at all able to compromise or is this about lets take care of the children, and were going to have the political debate down the road . This is the most shameful thing thats happened that our country has done, the way we are treating the kids in my lifetime. I think there is a way to get to the root of the problem. When i talk to republican colleagues, two ideas come up. One, why not do the irony is the Obama Administration started it, trump said it was an obama idea, so were not going to do it. Second thing, we started to get u. S. Aid to guatemala which 50 according to the vanderbilt study reduced gang violence. And theyre cutting those programs. I think people want smart solutions, they understand there has been influx of people coming to the border thats not sustainable. There are solutions that can get bipartisan support. Theyre not getting discussed. Elizabeth warren called for illegal immigration to be decriminalized. Not the first candidate, castro was the first candidate. Im curious, senator sanders, is he open to that and where are you on that issue . I would prefer that obama approach, i prefer that we have in country processing. If what she means is that we shouldnt be Holding People in detention facilities with human rights abuses, then i am sympathetic, but there still has to be a recognition that were a nation of laws, people should come to this country following our laws as most immigrants have come to america. We do, though, have a crisis in our hemisphere. How do we solve this in our hemisphere . Ultimately you talked about you want some investment there. Should we open our doors temporarily . I think we need to increase the amount of Asylum Seekers we admit. Were taking only 20,000 Asylum Seekers, and thats not enough in terms of the extraordinary crisis. America, we have always been a generous nation, a nation that has cared about human rights. So i think we should do more, in terms of direct foreign aid and admitting people with a need. I think the way to do that is process these folks in those countries. One final question has to do with a separate topic. This is a bill you cosponsored i think with a republican, and thats trying to get some clarity on an iran strike, that the president would have to come to congress. Any hope of getting that bill through, over to the senate . Chuck, i think it is going to pass. I am responsible soring it with matt matt gates, one of the president s closest allies, and there are republicans that i think will support it. This country is wary of war. We dont need another war that costs trillions of dollars in the middle east. I believe the amendment will pass and it defunds any activity in iran without congressional authorization. Do you think it has any shot in the senate realistically . Here is my view. I think the house will pass it, i dont think the senate will take it up. Then it goes to conference. If we keep it in conference, mcconnell will have to force a vote, it is in the Defense Authorization bill. I think the best bet is to keep it in the conference. Interesting. Politics make strange bed fellows. Working together on iran of all things. Thanks very much, sir. Appreciate you sharing your views. Thank you. Up ahead, 2020 democrats are already in miami, warming up for the big debut on a bigger stage. We go live to the room it all happened. First democratic primary debate is in 24 hours from now. Watch tomorrow and thursday here on msnbc, nbc, telemundo. Well be right back. Well be right back. When crabe stronger. Strong, with new nicorette coated ice mint. Layered with flavor. Its the first and only coated nicotine lozenge. For an amazing taste. That outlasts your craving. New nicorette ice mint. Look limu. A civilian buying a new car. Ug lets go. Limus right. 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Dean of florida politics. Senior writer here at politico. Miami native. Hello, sir. Doug, i want to start with you. What were witnessing with the Democratic Party. Nancy pelosi is saying no, not going to allow, youre upset about something, not going to allow the party to get wedged, give trump an out, somebody else to blame for whats happening at these camps that the kids are being held. But thats not going to be an easy thing to keep the party united around. Doug . Yeah, immigration is a tough issue for the party. I think we are united in terms of how these children are being treated down at the border. This border supplemental bill will likely pass. It has become much stronger in terms of including protections that hold the administration accountable, not spend it on trumps irresponsible policies. I think democrats, House Democrats and Senate Democrats can really prosecute this immigration fight against the president. It has been an abject failure on his part. He ran on immigration and the system is worse now than when he started. I think that it is important that the party get unified around some core messaging around immigration, but prosecute it against the president. Doug, are they obligated to work with him on this now politically . We can talk about governing and all those things, politically do you think House Democrats, look, if we give you minimum you need to be sure it is not cruel, but were not negotiating on bigger things, asylum laws, on the larger questions about immigration, is that good politics for democrats for now or risky . I think they have to stand up to the president when it makes sense and work with him when they can. This is an example of i think the democrats being forceful with the bill that theyre likely to pass tonight. Well see what the senate does. Theres not a lot of time. I dont think theres time for a krch conference committee. Hopefully they pass a bill that can go right to the president s desk. Look, there are moments to work with the president , this is one where they have to stand up, express values on whats right and whats wrong. Mark caputo, having homestead be one of the places the kids are sent, i had my own flashbacks, the camps when haitians were held there as they were coming over. This stuff plays how in south florida . South florida, understand all of florida, but especially south florida has a really dynamic base of immigrants. Were here in miamidade county, more than half the population is born in another country. It doesnt play well when children, imMigrant Children, immigrants in general are being mistreated. That having been said, President Trump shattered the conventional wisdom in florida by winning florida after running on a hard line immigration policy. Nobody thought that could work in a place like florida. Right, it didnt. And then in 2018, his protege ron desantis ran on a h