Oregon . Youre from michigan now. Im going to stick with the big ten. You know the big ten has really surprised a lot of folks. I got to say, go ohio state. Verge bernero, lansing, michigan food togood to have you with us torrentnight. Thats the ed show. Politicsnation begins with al sharpton. Thanks for tuning in. We start with breaking news for the hunt of the woman seen in this video and up to six other terror cell members who French Police say could be at large. This security video shows the widow of the gunman who attacked the jewish grocery in paris last week. The video is from an airport in istanbul, turkey. Authorities say she had traveled from france to spain before flying to turkey on january 2nd. Taking a domestic flight to the
syrian border. And then slipping into isiscontrolled territory in syria on january 8th. The same day her husband shot a Police Officer in the south of paris. Now the search is on for her. Plus, according to ap, up to six others linked to the terror cell including a man who was seen driving her car. Also today, a new video has emerged showing the Grocery Store gunman pledging allegiance to isis. All of this comes as a group claiming to be aligned with isis hacked into the twitter and youtube accounts for u. S. Central command. Posting proisis messages. The pentagon says it was not a Security Threat and that no classified information was revealed. But a day after over a million
people rallied in paris, that city is still on edge and police are flooding the streets looking for other potential terrorists. Joining me now is marcadis, a former department of defense counterterrorism analyst, and evan coleman, nbc news terrorism analyst. Thank you, both for being here. Thanks reverend. With the widow escaping into syria, are authorities worried that others in the cell will do the same . Right, oh, splut ly absolutely. The authorities french authorities named, essentially theyre unnamed. We dont know who they are, what their capabilities or who they they are. At this point, when you notice a press release from the french authorities that doesnt provide detail, that speaks to something because we assume that the french dont necessarily know who theyre looking for, of course. And its maybe more of a signal
to other Law Enforcement organizations throughout the world that hey, these people are alive and well as far as we know. We dont know if theyre operatives, we dont know if theyre in a support network type role. And its quite possible at this point they could be trying to flee the country. Evan, we dont know who they are, but do we have a sense of how large this paris terror cell could be . No, but even before the announcement by french authorities we already had an idea there was some support infrastructure, a support cell that must have existed because, of course, you have the video of mr. Coulibaly. The video has been edited. It shows the end of the hostage siege. Someone edited this video of mr. Coulibaly was already dead. Somebody uploaded the video. The video was in french. It was not issued by isis but somebody else who speaks french. Thus, theres a very strong conclusion there that theres somebody left in france who had access to this video who is in contact with mr. Coulibaly and
who decided to upload this and lets not forget mr. Coulibaly in the video talks about how he provided the kouachi brothers several thousand euros to carry out their plan. Where did he get that money from . Did he have that money on his own or get it from somebody else . Was he a conduit for something . Right. Jim, the widow who is now in syria, hayat boumeddiene, has spoken many times weve come to learn to the widow of one of the magazine attackers. One report says there was constant and sustained communication, according to paris chief prosecutor who said the two women spoke on the phone more than 500 times last year. Does this speak to how tightknit and serious this cell might have been . Yes, reverend al thats a great point. What it speaks to is Operational Security and terrorist cells whether theyre just a few people in paris or whether its a large international
organization like al qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula or al qaeda core in afghanistan, pakistan puts a high premium on the idea of maintaining Operational Security. Communications are tightly controlled between cell members. In this case the two wives could have been used as surrogates so there was no direct telephonic or email link between members of the actual cell that Law Enforcement authorities could have picked up on. And especially because the members of this cell had criminal records, and had done time in jail. So they would have that would have been highly suspicious. And so by using the wives who had no criminal records, so as far as we know you know details pending, that speaks to a level of remaining anonymous. To Law Enforcement authorities. Evan, two attackers appear linked to isis while the other two cited al qaeda in yemen. Heres what a senior cia veteran said. This is a distinction without a
difference. The super bosses may be wrapped up in these ideological fights but the followers really are not. How much does that distinction matter . No offense to the person who said that. This is a person who hasnt been reading isis propaganda. This message about the fight between isis and al qaeda or aqap is not an issue that is simply percolating between the top leaders of the organization. This is something thats reaching even englishspeaking members of this group. The last englishspeaking mass inging magazine put out by isis there were ten pages of the magazine dedicated to saying terribly nasty things about al qaeda, aqap, and all of their senior leaders. Theres no doubt that almost everyone in these organizations understand they dont like each other. Anyone that doesnt understand that distinction is not paying attention to any of their propaganda whether its in arabic arabic, whether its in english, whether its in french. That point is absolutely clear. Jim, let me go to this
hacking of two social media sites, u. S. Central command. Even if no classified information was revealed could this still inspire other attack attackers to take action . Oh well sure. Any time anybody does something as significant as hacking into a large and wellknown u. S. Military command, you never know whos going to be inspired by it. But i think the important point that we really have to draw from it is the individuals who claimed to do it claimed to have, be linked to isis. At this point, this is sort of the other side of the koibcoin that evan was just talking about. We dont know who these guys are. We dont know exactly what their highest end cape nltabilityies are. So yes, they had initial success. By claiming an affiliation to a larger terrorist organization, which to be clear, they may not have at all, but by claiming that affiliation, that allows them to pick up more recruit ss, picked up by media. Were talking about them now. That provides the opportunity for more money and more prestige down the line. I want to turn to violence in nigeria, evan. The Terror Group Boko Haram massacred 2,000 people in a village last week. And there are reports that theyre now using 10yearold girls as suicide bombers. Reuters reports, two suspected child suicide bombers blew themselves up in a market in northeast nigeria on sunday. The second apparent attack in two days using young girls strapped with explosives. Yeah this is horrific. Were not hearing a lot about this. This unbelievable. Its a level of barbism that even isis as extreme as they are, its difficult to imagine isis using child suicide bombers. Unfortunately part of the problem is because theres been so much focus on whats happening in france, for good reason unfortunately were
losing sight of other things going on. From isis perspective, if you ask them wloshtshether or not using a 10yearold as a suicide bomber is okay. They dont subscribe to any ideology other than death. Jim, wheres the world global outreach here . 2,000 people. Little girls strapped and used as suicide bombers that dont even know they have the bomb on. Absolutely the world has to be outraged with france but shouldnt the world be just as outrage ed outraged at whats going on in nigeria . Rerndthis is the same group that
kidnapped small schoolgirls and Still Holding them as far as we know. This is an unbelievable level of barbarism. Whether its boko haram, isis aqap whether its al qaeda. What we dont do in this country is have a serious conversation about how were going to stop radical asian in countries that have ungoverned territories. How do we do things like promote education, promote Democratic Institutions promote viable Political Parties . Yes, we have a hard security piece. But in the long term we also need to sustain our fight against terrorism in a lot of these soft power tools that we can use to address the problem at the core. Because if were just usinge inging bombs and guns and theres a time and place for that because there are evil people in the world who deserve to be met with that kind of force we also have to address the root causes and no matter where in the world were talking about, thats what we should do and when were outraged about all of these things, thats where we have to
begin to address a lot of our energy. Im going to have to leave there. That is clearly what im saying. We cannot have selective outrage. What has happened in france is despicable. And what is happening in nigeria is equally despicable. 2,000 lives, little girls. Whether it is in france whether it is in nigeria, the world must respond with the same passion. Had we done that with bin laden when he first struck in kenya, maybe he wouldnt have got to the united states. We should stop terrorism and savagery wherever we find it oers it might find us. Jim arkadis and evan kohlmann, thanks for your time tonight. Thanks, reverand al. President obamas fight for fairness is having a rather odd effect on republicans. And a story we told you about, two new mexico police
shooting and killing a homeless man. Do it. Get on the ground. Get on the ground now get on the ground. Get on the ground. Tonight, the officers are facing charges. And George Zimmerman arrested in florida. Well tell you why. And could he see jail time . Please stay with us. Yep. This is the one. Can we go for a test drive . Oh sure, ill be right back. Thanks. Leather, running boards. Carmax quality certified low, nohaggle price 5day money back guarantee. Thats great. And, a roof rack for the kayak we dont have a kayak. We could get a kayak. Ready to roll . Yes, we are. With more than 35,000 cars nationwide carmax has the perfect car for. Everybody. Carmax. Start here. [ narrator ] mama sherman and the legion of super fans. Wow [ narrator ] on a mission to get richard to his campbells chunky soup. Its new chunky beerncheese with beef and bacon soup. I love it. And mama loves you. Something odd is happening in the gop. Some of their top president ial contenders are starting to sound
less like this president and more like this president. Whats going on . Thats next. Enthusiast. Mmm, a perfect 177degrees. And thats why this road warrior rents from national. I can bypass the counter and go straight to my car. And i dont have to talk to any humans, unless i want to. And i dont. And national lets me choose any car in the aisle. Control. Its so, whats the word . Sexy. Go national. Go like a pro. These ally bank ira cds really do sound like a sure thing but im a bit skeptical of sure things. Whys that . Look what daddys got. Ahhhhhhhhhh growth you can count on from the bank where no branches equals great rates. Alright, so this tylenol arthritis lasts 8 hours, but aleve can last 12 hours. And aleve is proven to work better on pain than tylenol arthritis. So why am i still thinking about this . How are you . Aleve, proven better on pain. The u. S. Economy is improving, but theres one area where we still desperately need to see gains. Its the issue president obama called the defining challenge of our time. A dangerous and growing inequality in lack of upward mobility that has jeopardized middle class americas basic bargain. That if you work hard you have a chance to get ahead. I believe this is the defining
challenge of our time. Fighting in inging inequality. A pillar of the obama presidency. He ran on it and he won on it. Vast majorities are behind this fight. Now were seeing something funny happen on the right. Heres the Washington Post headline today. Both parties agree economic mobility will be a defining theme of 2016 campaign. The polls highlights marco rubio and rand paul trying to join the conversation on fairness. Jeb bushs new pac is talking about the difficulty of achieving the American Dream and focusing on middle class wage stagnation. And shared prosperity. And even mr. 47 , himself, mitt romney says if he runs again, one of the issues hed like to address is poverty. Now, i applaud this idea but
the question is do you really believe it . After decades of pushing tax cuts for the rich and trickledown economics, will anyone take this seriously . Joining me now are Jared Bernstein and joan walsh. Thank you both for being here. Thanks rev. Thank you, rev. Joan, mitt romney wants to talk about poverty and jeb bush is fighting for fairness . Are we in the Twilight Zone . Weve got these two plutocrats who now want to fight each other for whos going it be the president of the 1 , talking about fairness. I think its really unfair rev, because what youre see in the Republican Party now is a recognition that yes, poverty is a problem, income equality is a problem, stagnating wages is a problem. Theyve blocked everything this president has tried to do. Everything. They will not give him an increase in the minimum wage they passed a smaller stimulus than he wanted. They will not give him the Infrastructure Spending he wants. They will not give him an immigration bill. Immigration reform is really important to wages because when we legalize people or give them some legal foot hold in this country, they have a little bit more of standing to push back when theyre being treated unfairly. And so theyve fought his appointments to the National Relations labor board. Theyve fought everything they can do something about stagnating wages. When you raise these examples, jared, let me ask you, what policies can president obama work on to narrow the income gap . Specific policies. Interestingly, hes done a fair bit already even without congress. Deferred deportations fits right into joans point about immigration. Hes raised the minimum wage for federal contractors. There are at least three things that would be on the agenda that have had some little bit of bipartisan agreement. One is infrastructure investment. The other, im blocking on the other one right now. Ill get to it in a second. But the point is that the president has some nominal support for these ideas, but he
hasnt had the kind of support that Congress Really needs to get behind him. And thats whats been missing. Joan the i mentioned the Washington Post piece that said republicans wont engage on economic mobility. It quoted a republican strategist. Republican strategist who said you talk to any pollster on the democratic side or the republican side theyre in complete agreement on the idea that there has to be an economic populous message. Then it comes down to are there Credible Solutions and is there a credible candidate . Will we be Credible Solutions from the gop . Who do democrats need to do to stay ahead on this issue, joan . I think the democrats can stay ahead rather easily reverend al. The Republican Party, i want to give paul ryean credit to Pay Attention to the issues. Their solutions are warmed over tax credits, warmed over empowerment zones. These ideas going back to jack kemp that were tried, you know, and maybe tried with very good intentions but really didnt move the needle on unemployment and particularly inner city unemployment. So, you know im not saying the democrats have been perfect on this issue, but they are definitely putting a lot more meat on the bones of fairness strategy and a raise the wages strategy. Let me ask go ahead jared. First of all, let any just say that the ideas that have had some suggestion of some bipartisan movement, i mentioned infrastructure, theres also an increase in the eitc for childless workers. Thats a tax credit for lowincome workers. And some sounds that universal prek, quality prek for kids could be on the agenda. Weve not Seen Real Movement toward them. Look, i want to echo something you guys is been talking about. Its one thing to say i feel your pain, visavis unequalinequality and mobility. Remember, that was something mitt romney said he didnt want to talk about. Now we have jeb bush saying im
happy to talk about it. Its a very different thing to articulate the policy agenda. And so far all that ive heard from these republicans is our agenda is growth its more growth, how do we get that growth . We try to make life more advantageous for those at the top. So its really just a change in the rhetoric at least thats what it sounds like to me with trickle down at the end of the road. Thats the problem because you cant say i feel your pain when i dont feel that you have the capacity to feel my pain. The Washington Post profiled a recent focus group in denver that was asked about potential 2016 candidates. They had mixed opinions on jeb bush and Hillary Clinton. But people on both sides of the aisle had great things to say about elizabeth warren. They called her sincere, knowledgeable, capable, and she was a popular choice as a next door neighbor. Shes best known, of course for talking about fairness. Listen to this. We believe that no one should work full time and still live in poverty. That means raising the minimum wage and we will fight for it. The stock market and gdp continue to go up while families across this country are getting squeezed harder and harder. So the way i see this is we can whine about it we can whimper abo