I give the governor credit. Democrats give their say tonight. Well hear from the lawmaker whos fighting for the people of flintz. All that, plus a special gotcha. Why the right is trying to blame president obama for donald trump. From Rockefeller Center in new york, this is politics nation with al sharpton. Good morning, im al sharpton. And on the morning after supersaturday, the president ial race on both sides is anything but over. Maybe the biggest winner of this weekend, ted cruz. Winning two of four contests. The caucus in kansas, and the caucus in maine, getting almost 50 of the vote in both states. But donald trump also did well. Winning in kentucky, and in louisiana. By just four points. Now the pressure falls on marco rubio. Both cruz and trump saying, its time for the field to thin out. As long as the field remains divided it gives donald an advantage. So what i hope and believe will happen is that other candidates, as they compete over and over again, and are not able to win, at some point, if youre not able to prevail, if youre not able to amass enough delegates to have any plausible path to 1237, there comes a point where other candidates, other campaigns have to reflect, pray, or reconsider. Do i have a path Going Forward . Or is it time for us to come together . I would like marco to drop out from the standpoint that i think marco now, look at how he did tonight. Hes in hes in third and fourth. And somebody was nice enough to say that even when i dont win a state, i always come in second. Thats a big thing. Marcos come in fourth. So i think its time for marco to clean the deck. I do. And i say that respectfully. The latest delegate count. Donald trump close to 400. Cruz breaking 300. And rubio, and kasich, falling further behind. On the democratic side, Bernie Sanders scored two caucus wins in kansas, and in nebraska. But the big delegate prize was in louisiana. And it went to Hillary Clinton, with 71 of the vote. Today both candidates are in michigan, where theyre debating tonight ahead of tuesdays primary. I want to congratulate senator sanders for running a strong campaign, but now all eyes turn to michigan. Tonight we won in kansas, with a good vote, won in nebraska with a good vote. And we think were going to do very well here on tuesday, in your great state. Clinton now has almost 1100 delegates, with sanders close to 500. Today two more contests, the Democratic Caucus in maine, and the republican primary in puerto rico. But, of course, we start with the gop. Joining me now is michael steele, former chairman of the Republican National committee. Michael, first of all, thanks for being here. Good to be with you, rev. Trump won he still won two states. But it was an off night for him. It was an off night. I think i think it was a little bit of a reset by conservatives. The big difference last night between what you saw there and what youve seen before was last night was a closed primary and caucus situation, where only republicans were voting. Right. So really for the first time, on a night, you had republicans voting for republicans. There were no independents. There were no likeminded democrats. So you got a chance to see how conservatives have begun to rally around the idea of ted cruz, in these types of primaries. Now Going Forward the interesting test will be, can donald trump maintain his lead by holding on to enough of that very strong conservative vote. We saw him win over evangelicals. Right. We saw him win over conservatives in south carolina, and so forth. So, the real test Going Forward for donald trump is, is this a pattern to come . Or is this just a blip on the screen that he still has the mojo how much of this could be the stop trump strategy, and the attacks by people like mitt romney and others . Do you feel any of that has had any effect thats a good question. I think its less that, and actually more ill be very honest. I think what really pulled the trigger for a lot of voters was the kkk. I think rank and file republicans, no matter what their walk of life or what their experience, just found that repugnant. And they really it really brought a question in their mind about the leading candidate. And so they a question of what . Of whether he is biased or whether he is this is something they didnt want to be associated with. They didnt want to be associated with the remarks. They didnt want to be associated with the ideology. None of it. So i think they started looking around and they settled back where they probably ordinarily would have been if trump hadnt been in this race and thats with cruz. What happens to rubio . Rubio is not seeming to gain from any of this. You would think that rubio, who became at least by the anointed one of the republican leadership. The savior. He seems to have not benefited by any of the kkk, or the problem with trump, or anything else. It seems like cruz has benefited more. The problem marco has, when you look at it just looking at it from 300 feet, observing the whole field right now is he has no constituency. Who is it that is backing him . I mean, who is it thats going to carry him to the win in a state . Yes, he won in minnesota. Thats fine. But Going Forward, where do you have a constituency . And the tale there is looking at florida. Hes trialing in his home state. Hes the favorite son, and hes behind. Now, hes putting pay good face on it, though. Listen to how he talks about it. These states have a certain profile that other candidates do better in. We recognize that. This map only gets better for us as we move forward in some of the other states. Were soon going to be in the winner take all process in larger states like florida and in other places like that, and thats when we feel very confident as we move forward. I mean, do you think he believes that or is he just trying to keep his supporters i think he believes it, and b, i think hes trying to keep his supporters engaged. But the reality is its very simple. The math is the math. Theres no way marco catches trump, let alone cruz at this point. Number two, if he does not win florida, its done. Stick a fork in it, its over. And even if he wins florida, he still has the problem of winning beyond florida, again i go back to the first point, whos his constituency . You win florida because youre the native son, they know you. Right. But since they do know you and youre trailing that should be a very troubling sign for them. Michael, stay with me. Lets get reaction now from the campaign trail itself. Nbcs Gabe Gutierrez is live in jacksonville, florida. Gabe, publicly the Rubio Campaign is saying all the right things. But whats the mood hiepd the scenes . Hey there, al. Listen, yes, the Rubio Campaign is trying to put a brave face on this. They typically do that after disappointing finishes. You remember after new hampshire, there is an acknowledgment, as michael was talking about, that florida, where we are right now, marco rubios home state, it is absolutely crucial, and they know it. Right now theyre trying to pick up delegates here and there. Theyre hoping to pick up a few in puerto rico. But again thats not exactly the cornerstone of a winning president ial campaign. And theyre heading to idaho later today to try to pick up a few delegates. But theyre really looking for some type of huge momentum shift, and really the only way that happens right now is if marco rubio is able to come from behind in florida, and pick up those 99 delegates here. Its going to be a steep climb, as you mentioned hes down by double digits in the poll. And the question right now is somebody like jeb bush, perhaps, you know, his mentor, will he endorse marco rubio what are you hearing . Will jeb bush weigh in on this . Have you heard any really, thats the open question right now. There are some people in florida who feel, yes, that he will eventually, before. Florida primary on march 15th, and they feel that yes, you know, they have such a long history together that to not do so would be a really low blow. On the other hand, some peoples are the tension between jeb bush and marco rubio on the campaign trail was significant. Yeah. Of course rubio now saying that hes spoke with jeb bush and that hes what do you think, will jeb weigh in . Im of the school that i dont think he will. I think when you go back and you trace the arc of jeb, despite his own problems in the campaign, rubios attacks on him were stinging. The rubio supported, you know, 527s, the super pacs, really were brutal towards jeb. So i think that while there may be a long history there, i think the memory of what happened in this short period will last a little bit longer. Now, let me ask you a question. You chaired the Republican Party. Will this be a brokered convention . Let me put it in context. Im looking at a poll that just came out, brandnew, where kasich has now pulled ahead of trump in michigan, 33 to 31 and this is the first time weve seen kasich ahead in a poll. If these things start going up and down as they started yesterday yeah. Are we looking more realistically at a brokered convention . The trend line is in that direction, particularly given what happened last night. The strength of cruz if hes able to sustain that and grow it will help. A marco rubio going back to that point. If he pulls off a win in florida, absolutely youre on the trajectory then because then the numbers just dont work for anybody. And particularly if, on the heels of florida, kasich wins ohio. The fact that hes leading in michigan and michigan now becomes a very, very important state between the donald trump camp and the kasich camp. As well as cruz a little bit. But the fact that kasich has made that kind of move, if he pops on tuesday in michigan, its almost a reset in many respects when you look at the totality leading into the convention. Its a real opportunity come could cleveland, bring your popcorn because its going to be a lot to look at. Ill sit with you if i come. Michael steele and Gabe Gutierrez, thank you both for being with me this morning. Coming up, oneonone with new York Attorney general Eric Schneiderman. Hes suing donald trump. Also, the politics of flint. That crisis now a focus in the 2016 race. And the setting for tonights democratic debate. Sfx car driving. Sfx engine revving. Sfx car engine. Sfx car speeding away. Sfx car engine. When your symptoms start. Distracting you . Doctors recommend taking. Nondrowsy claritin every day of your allergy season. Claritin provides powerful, nondrowsy 24 hour relief. For fewer interruptions from the Amazing Things you do every day. Live claritin clear. It takes a lot of work. 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And action is what Trump University is all about but action is just a small part of Trump University. Trump university is about knowledge, about a lot of different things. Donald trump selling potential students on his Trump University. It closed down in 2011, but in 2016, its opening a rash of legal and political issues. This past week, an Appeals Court ruled that a 40 million lawsuit brought by the new York Attorney general, Eric Schneiderman, can go forward. The suit alleges the operation was an unlicensed educational institution, and engaged in, quote, numerous deceptive practices. Luring people in to paying as much as 35,000 each. Now political opponents are using Trump University as a major argument against his candidacy. Heres what i know. Donald trump is a phony. A fraud. His promises are as worthless as a degree from Trump University. Theres also a super pac running ads featuring former Trump University students. My name is gerry and aim a single mom. Based on the fact that it was donald trump, signed up. I made a huge mistake trusting him. Pay 35,000. Actually more than 35,000. Was all supposedly supervised by donald trump, run by donald trump. All of it was just a fake. America, do not make the same mistake that i did with donald trump. On the trail, trump has defended Trump University. Saying those claiming they were conned just want a payout. We had about 98 of the people that took the courses approve the courses, they thought it was great, they signed report cards and they said it was great. Those people are suing to get their money back because a law firm said, hey listen if i could get your money back what would you say . They said oh, great, get my money back. They signed these documents, they rated the course. 98 Approval Rating at high marks. I recently caught up with new York Attorney general Eric Schneiderman who filed that lawsuit and i asked whether Trump University was a college or university at all. No. In fact, it started up in 2005, the new York State Education Department started writing to them, and mr. Trump concedes that they got the letters, saying you cant hold yourself out as a university. There are pretty strict requirements in new york for a university, and it never was. People got what appeared to be a diploma, but it was worthless. Now describe what a Trump University seminar was like. What happened . Well, weve gotten the transcripts of the seminars. Weve gotten the playbook, which are the scripts for the instructors, and essentially it was a bait and switch scheme. Mr. Trumps role was just as the pitchman. He was involved in the advertising. The instructors, he claimed that they were hand picked instructors who were experts. In fact the president of the university testified in the deposition that mr. Trump never picked the instructors. The instructors, some of them, had worked in fast food, some in retail, and their playbook told them simply to lead people to believe that they could learn everything in a threeday seminar, that cost 1500, and then the scripts for the threeday seminar made it clear the instructors were told, convince the students that they cant possibly learn anything in three days, they have to pay for the elite programs, which are what got them up to as high as 35,000 or in some cases more than 35,000. They didnt really learn any real else state secrets. The advertisements said they were going to be trumps personal secrets and tips and things like that. He had nothing to do with the kuric rum and thats been acknowledged by the former university president. It was a bait and switch scheme designed to get people in, saying you could get rich in real estate. People desperate during hard Economic Times believed mr. Trump was a successful entrepreneur and they were going to learn his secrets. It was all a sham. What kind of people were enrolling and paying this kind of money . Were these wealthy people . No. No. Very most of these people were people of modest means. Trying to supplement their income. It was a very strong set of advertisements and newspapers on tv. By mr. Trump explaining that they had great opportunities to really to take advantage of the foreclosure crisis in many cases. And do foreclosure investing. They were trying to find work. With now you say you brought it as a Law Enforcement officer. But, mr. Trump says it was politically motivated. Listen to this. All of a sudden, the attorney general, his name is Eric Schneiderman. Not respected in new york. Doing a terrible job. Probably is not electable in new york. But who knows. All of a sudden, he meets with obama in, i believe syracuse, and the following day or two he brings a lawsuit against me. Was politics or the president involved in any way with this, mr. Schneiderman . No. President obama was in syracuse a week or so before i filed the suit, giving a speech about education. He and i spoke for maybe 90 seconds. We had much more important things to talk about than mr. Trump. I realize he thinks the universe revolves around him, but president obama had nothing to do with this case. This was not about politics. This was about fraud. And you can look at the complaint, you can look at the evidence. Its already in the public record. And see that there were thousands of people taken for millions of dollars. They couldnt afford. Through a phony University Scheme that was never registered. The teachers were never certified and mr. Trump pocketed a significant amount of the money himself. So this is a fraud case. Its not a political case. We pursue cases against democrats, republicans, we dont care if youre powerful or well connected. This is something he cant bully his way out of. I was told that they were also promised they would meet mr. Trump. Did you find that to be the case . Yes. Many of them believed that they would. There was a lot of emphasis placed in the pitch on how being associated with mr. Trump would be very important to their careers. And having a Trump University diploma and a picture taken with mr. Trump wou