Williams starts now. The president calls omarosa a dog, perhaps because she could now be a danger to this presidency. And the spokesman said she couldnt guarantee that we wouldnt hear the president using the n word. That trump knew about clintons emails before wikileaks put them out. While on the mueller front, when will the deliberations begin . If its tuesday, it must be primary night again. Indeed it is. Steve kornacki has the live results a the big board as the the 11th hour gets under way on a tuesday night. Good evening once again. Day 572 this was of the trump administration, which is now facing the very real possibility that the real threat to the president may be one Omarosa Manigault newman. Dropping another tape this morning and making another round of appearances related to her book. There is no reason to believe she wont drop a new recording each day for some time to come. In fact, annie karni of politico is reporting exactly that fear from the west wing tonight. Quote, people are terrified. One former trump aid said of the tapes, absolutely terrified. Todays surreptitious recording du jour appears to capture her and two other Campaign Aides in october 2016, discussing a rumored audio recording of trump using the n word on the set of the apprentice. Those Campaign Advisers have offered a series of denials and explanations surrounding the circumstance of that conversation. Omarosa offered her own explanation about why she needed to go public with this latest recording. I wanted to have this type of documentation to show that in the event i found myself in this position where, as you said, theyre questioning my credibility, saying they never discussed the n word tape, never heard these accusations, the president had never heard these accusations when in fact this tape proves that they discussed it at high levels of the trump campaign. As you no doubt have already heard and seen, the president responded to her latest revelations with this, and we quote, when you give a crazed crying low life a break and give her a job at the white house, i guess it just didnt work out. Good work by general kelly for quickly firing that dog. After the president called a former white house aide a dog, questions about his choice of words and the president s attitudes about race dominated todays white house briefing, as you might imagine. Press secretary saernrah sander was forced to explain what her boss might have meant. This person has shown a complete lack of integrity. This has absolutely nothing to do with race. Can you stand the podium and guarantee the American People will never hear donald trump iter the n word on a recording in any context . I cant guarantee anything, but i can tell you that the president addressed this question directly. I can tell you that ive never heard it. Kristen welker had a particularly strong day at todays briefings. There were other omarosa related bombshells today. This one involves Robert Mueller and the ongoing russia investigation. Earlier on this network, omarosa stoke to katy tur about her interaction was muellers team. Lets talk about something you talked to Chris Matthews about last night, the Mueller Investigation. Have you been interviewed by the special counsel . I have. You have. And what sort of questions where they asking you . Thats the extent i can go in discussing that as well. Have you sat for a grand jury . Im not going to be able to comment than. You did say you might have more tapes Robert Mueller would be interested in. What sort of tapes would he be interested in . If he calls me i certainly will participate with anything that he needs, ill provide him with what he needs. But thats the extent i can talk about. There was also this. Omarosa alleged donald trump had advance knowledge of the hacked emails from Hillary Clintons campaign. You were instructed according to your book to bring up the emails at every point you could at the end of the 2016. Hillary clintons email. Yes, that was our talker. Did donald trump know about those emails before they came out . Absolutely. He knew about them . Yes. He knew what was copping out before wikileaks release them. Youre saying donald trump had a back channel. I didnt say that. You did. Expose the corruption that went on in the campaign and the white house. Im going to continue to blow the whistle on all of that. Gets your attention. Just few hours ago, the president s lawyer Rudy Giuliani responded to omarosas claim about those clinton emails. I know she is lying because i was on the campaign more than she was. I was closer to him than she was. I was from about june to november, i was with him 24 hours a day. Its not in a book, i guarantee you she didnt tell the special prosecutor that. On that note lets bring in our leadoff panel. Former congresswoman Donna Edwards, a democrat from the great state of maryland. Philip rucker for the Washington Post. And jonathan lemire, White House Reporter for the Associated Press. Phil, i would like to begin with you. You have written and reported that people are rattled inside the west wing and elsewhere. Lets put hit the way. Every senior and for that matter junior white house aide current and former will go to bed tonight not knowing if they will hear their voice on tomorrows released surreptitious recording. Thats right, brian. The only way they would go to bed without that worry is if they know they never had any conversation with omarosa. Shes made clear now that she recorded many of her conversations in the west wing. Senior officials in the building do not know what she may or may not have in her recordings or when she plans to put them out. Its one of the reasons why youve seen the president so clearly rattled if you look at his tweets over the last few days. There has been there was an effort, a strategy in the white house to try to basically deprive omarosa any attention, to keep the president tweeting, to keep engage ogg then book tour. They knew the book tour was coming, but they didnt want the do anything that would breathe life into their allegations or promote the book sales or what have you. But clearly, the president could not restrain himself, and he has been tweeting for several days now and escalating his attacks on herment. And phil, i want to remind you that, of course, you and Ashley Parker have put out a piece of journalism about this relationship tonight, where you say now like in the film series jurassic park, where the dinosaurs turn on the scientists who helped create them, Manigault Newman has unleashed trumps own tricks and tactics on him. Consider what weve already been discussing here tonight, the motion of teasing out parts of the story, continuing in interviews to say what you have, whats going to happen, and what youre going to do to this person. Thats exactly right. These are trump tactics. And its important to point out that she was not only a white house staffer and contestant on the apprentice, but she was very much a protege. She has been sort of trained by trump for more than a decade in reality television, in creating drama, in building sort of personal narrative and brand and becoming a captivating figure in the popular culture. She is known by one name, omarosa, like madonna or prince. And that to trump makes her magnetic. But it also she know house to play this game. She knows how to manipulate the media. She know house to create suspense around her book and about what tapes are going to come out next. Its one reason the president doesnt know whats around the corner. So a lot of people have come away from her introduce on television for the last two days and hear her point about if i hadnt recorded all this stuff, i would be publicly destroyed. And people in this day and age, this trump era kind of say, okay, that makes sense. And further, there is a conversation going on about her credibility, but thats kind of neutered by the fact that she has tapes. Well, and her credibility is being challenged by people who dont have any credibility. I mean, why are we surprised that she has tapes . The president has been recorded by his own words to record people. His lawyer recorded him. Why it is a surprise that omarosa in an effort to protect herself wouldnt record . And i think she is right when she says that nobody would believe her at all if she didnt have these receipts. She promised them, and every time she delivers them. Just because somebody lies or exaggerates one time doesnt mean that occasionally they dont tell the truth. And we certainly know that with the president. He has been recorded to have lied over 7,000 times. But when he said that he fired james comey because of russia, we believe him. So occasionally some of these lies actually and liars actually do tell the truth. And i think here with omarosa, first of all, what the president said about her is just absolutely despicable. And he has this habit of calling women and particularly black women these names that are very disparaging and that are very racist. And i think its time that we actually call the president out every single time that he does that. And the fact that Sarah Huckabee sanders can stand at the podium and say that she cant guarantee that he hadnt used the n word, well, im one of the black women who voted for hillary clinton. We know he used the n word and we dont need a tape to prove it. That was a certain moment in the modern presidency today. Jonathan lemire, you write today for the Associated Press about kind of parachutes and parking spaces. Parting payments and positions people can go into after theyve fallen out of trump world. Omarosa was destined for one such position. Its certainly not unusual there can be a blurring between an administration and say a campaign. What is striking about the Trump White House is first of all, how freely these departures come. Theyve had more staff turnover in the first 18 months than any Administration Since records were kept on these kinds of things. Moreover, when they leave, a number of outside affiliated groups support his agenda, the Vice President s agenda, there is the outside group that steve bannon runs. Thats where these people end up. It seems to be for two reasons. On one, you reward a staffer who, like many in the Trump White House, have had trouble finding that lucrative work that west wing aides usually find without much trouble after leaving the administration. But secondly, this idea of keep your friends close but your enemies closer. And there is a sense for a number of these people leaving the white house who the president and those closest to him are nervous about, you bring them on, you pay them exorbitantly, you sort of buy their silence. And that was the idea here with omarosa, that she was going get 15,000 a month to remain quiet. She obviously decided not to do that. And our reporting backs up everything phil has said. Has really unnerved a lot of people in the white house. Remember, donald trumps, the cardinal sin in his world is disloyalty. He feels like he made her. That she is a star because he put her on his show and she became this sort of in some ways cartoon villain. That cartoon villain has now struck back, and the white house is scrambling as to how to respond. Keith schiller and former nypd cop, longtime trump aide. Many people regard as keeper of the secrets turned director of Oval Office Operations which was never a thing heretofore, he is down in florida making that monthly retainer, attached vaguely to the campaign to reelect. And he is making the same 15,000. And part of that job, its affiliated with the rnc, is to provide security for the Republican National convention in 2020. So not a bad gig if you can get it right now. Phil rucker, the business part of what Omarosa Manigault newman said today, where shes really now has to put up because its an existential threat it would seem to me to the presidency is this advance, this notion of advanced knowledge. Yeah. On the part of the president of the emails prior to the wikileaks release. Talk about the consequences here. Well, the consequences could potentially be great. I was really pretty flabbergasted when she said that in the interview with katy tur this afternoon, and i think katy was surprised as well. Weve not heard anybody in trumps orbit make that charge or make that disclosure that the president knew about these emays before they came out from wikileaks. If he did know about them, it would indicate some sort of conspiracy. And, of course, hes been denying for months, for more than a year frankly that there has been no collusion, that he had nothing to do with russia, that he didnt know about this stuff. I dont know where Omarosa Manigault newman came up with that. I dont know if she was sort of saying it in a moment, in an interview and didnt fully sort of understand what it was she is revealing. She did not get into detail in the interview. She also has not subsequently provided any evidence to back up her claim. But if she is correct, it could be a really big legal problem for the president. Hey, congresswoman, even though youre a lawyer yourself, please engage in rampant speculation. If she does are the goods and can prove advanced knowledge of the emails coming out, that would be, it seems to me at minimum collusion, and at most, ball game. Correct . I think so. The fact is that she has already been before the special counsel, it seems likely that shes going to get called back, i would think. And provide whatever else she has. And so i think youre right. This is one of these notions when i heard that today, my mouth was open because that is the whole ball game right there. And so now shes in a position where she really does have to put up. Jonathan lemire, there is a theory that started floating around yesterday, today. It was it was the thing to say that maybe manafort could bring down the house. Maybe it could be gates or flynn. Maybe it was going to be Michael Cohen of new york. But in the last 24 to 48 hours, ive heard serious people say this is the woman who could burn down the house. Well, there are certainly a number of contenders, as you just listed. To this point the president remains standing in his house around him. But yes, there is something perhaps uniquely dangerous to this west wing that omarosa can provide. She was there every day. We do not know how many recordings she has. Apparently had her iphone with her the whole time. We know she made a recording in the situation room. There are not like things were offlimits to her in her estimation. She is saying she was trying to protect herself. The way she repeatedly used that interview, the idea with katy, whistleblower, blowing the whistle and perhaps signaling where she wants to go with this down the road. And there are people in there who are very worried about what kind of conversations she has captured on tape. And we know of at least one with the president. There could be more. We dont know what he is going to say. There are certainly explosive allegations that he used the n word and such. And that this is something they did not have game planned for. Like phil said, they originally wanted to ignore it. Instead, the president who cant never resist a slight has fought back and fought back hard. And that is just snowballing. And there is no sense when its going to stop. Were going to have to do something a little unusual. All of our guests have agreed to stay with us over the break. We will take a break, and when we come back, she says she has already talked with muellers at least once. Did you neat . What else does omarosa have that might be of interest to the special counsel . Later on tonight, the president reached back to an old insult today. Well talk about the impact of one of his goto putdowns. The 11th hour just Getting Started as we look at the west wing on a tuesday night. This is a white house where everybody lies. The president lies to the American People. Sarah huckabee stands in front of the country and lies every day. Do you think the president lies often . Absolutely, they prep him to lie every day. In trump world, everyone lies. They have a problem with the truth. Omarosas remarks about Trumps White House and the truth may come into play in regard to this russia investigation and specifically obstruction of justice or collusion. Rudy giuliani said definitively tonight as we watched, in the case of trump versus comey he saidhe said, trump is ready to wear under oath that he never asked comey to cut flynn a break of any kind. Im telling you he didnt say it. Jay and i have said to the president , if you said it it would be easier on us so that we could defend it. You just said go easy on him. You didnt say tank the case, get rid of the case. You could have ordered him to do it. Could have done a lot of things. And the president has said to you i never said any word to him ever about flynn ever, in that context . Yes, yeah, pretty much. Thats pretty close. Pretty much, pretty close. Still with us Donna Edwards, philip rucker, jonathan lemire. Welcome back, gang. Mr. Rucker, this issue of the relationship to the truth, of course, goes to the heart of the investigation they are trying to stave off, and i want to run for you a bit more of on how worried they are. Well talk about it on the other side. How worried are folks or the white house, staffers about this investigation, the Mueller Investigation . They should be very worried. Are they worried . Absolutely. Because they have been hiding things. Hiding things from the American People. And being very dishonest. The staffers have been hiding things . Absolutely. Like what . I cant go into it. Phil rucker, how worried are they going to be upon hearing her say how worried they are and should be . Well, first of all, brian, i wish she went into it a little bit there. We all did. Told us some examples. Look, i think theyre worried potentially about what she could say. But its important to keep in mind shes been gone from the whi