Transcripts For MSNBCW The Beat With Ari Melber 20190322 22:

MSNBCW The Beat With Ari Melber March 22, 2019 22:00:00

Have a professional history. He didnt need to mention everyone agrees. Mueller in the letter the way he the manner in which theyre in a did. Box is they have to decide if mueller finished tonight. Did you see any evidence, clues, the crime of Obstruction Of Justice and Witness Tampering anything like that because youve been on the ground . And others, if thats still illegal. If they still think its a crime. I think the letter codified the Personality Traits we have already seen from this new Attorney General as weve been waiting for this report to be has donald trump given them a delivered here to him. He stayed calm. Taken way in congress. We saw him around the Justice Department. He eats lunch with the staff and cafeteria, the Justice Department which is not normally so we have mtp beat. Anything you recommend if you have a nice lunch. He eats with staff every day around noon. He seems to stick to a schedule. Actually thought you were he sees reporters in the leaving. Hallway. He may come up to him and say is i just gave nicole the good today the day. News she doesnt get to leave he keeps a stoic face and keeps walking. Not being able to get caught up either. Chuck and nicole, well stay if you need us. In the moment. Stay with me for this thats come through. Breaking news. Im going to jump. Were hearing news from senator schumer. But thats very interesting. Robert mueller finished the were going to listen to live Russia Investigation late today. He filed his formal report and reaction from chuck schumer. The Justice Department which evidence should be made public. The Special Counsels announced. And a day that history will mark investigation focused on questions that go to the integrity of our democracy itself, whether foreign powers corruptly interfered in our elections and whether unlawful the battle and the facts. Means were used to hinder the investigation. And this is seen right here the American People have a right brand new. To the truth. It states that that they the watch word is transparency. Overruled mueller and who to indict. And bob muellers principal conclusions about those indictments and who did he not indict as soon as this weekend. The president has called for the as soon as this weekend. Report to be made public. So there is a lot to get to. I have a big panel. A lot of experts. There is no reason on gods chuck and nicole are waiting. Green earth why Attorney General i go first to a newsmaker. Barr should do any less. The Intelligence Chairman in the were only good to take one question or two. Any . The indications are that house adam shift joins us by there are no new indictments. Phone for the first reaction. That is the word coming out. Good evening, sir. Do you think that is the case . That there is apology to be made for the perfect ez . I think we should wait for the full report to be issued im waiting for robert schiff. Before jumping to any i can hear you. I hear you now, chairman. Conclusions. I think we should wait for our viewers can hear you. The full report to be made your reaction to tonights news . Public before jumping to any well, weve been waiting for that puff of smoke about the conclusions. Justice department and finally got it today. How confident are you that were going to get the full the Special Counsel concluded report with a Trump Appointed the investigation. Attorney general . The key question though is will i think the demand of the public is overwhelming to see bill barr live up to the the report when its on such a commitment he made to be as serious matter. Transparent as possible which would require making public the Mueller Report. We voted overwhelmingly in the house to do that. Is there a time frame . But for lindsey grams stopping number thank you everybody. Last question to the yankee fan. That bill in the senate, i think weve been listening to chuck the senate would have voted overwhelmingly to make the schumer that marks the third Mueller Report public as well. Democrat we heard from just in our coverage here on msnbc. One thing i will add is the report itself, as important as that will be is not as important we heard from the judiciary as the underlying evidence. Committee and Intelligence Chairman adam schiff in the house emphasizing while we have big news tonight, i dont anyone doubts that. He filed the report. Theyre all emphasizing that the next step is even more important i evidence that a u. S. Person or than what he filed which is what Anyone Around him may be acting do we learn . What does Congress Learn and in the foreign interest of an what does america learn . At this moment, 6 40 p. M. , weve adversary and not in the interest of our country. So, mr. Chairman, as you been hearing from reporters, know, this letter was directed from lawyers, from our experts. To congress. You are one of the decision we havent yet heard from the makers reacting to it. People that directly reacted i understand you to be referring to the two pieces here. With the mueller probe. On the beat, that is something one, that by this weekend bob weve been focused on. Bill barr says he could refer to you, his view of bob muellers principle conclusions. And that number two, he says in the time ahead he will consult with mueller and rosenstein about what other information can be released to both you the congress and the public. Now that we know that is the stance they take, what is your view, mr. Chairman, of what must my panelists are still with me. Be in that other second bucket well be adding others in a few of other information. Moments. Sam, you have been associated wfr this probe in a very what mueller is reporting as dramatic way. As many people i think now know. Best we can tell are his conclusions on the criminal side and you were talking about of the house. Defying it. Then you participated. You came to this table and said who should be indicted and who shouldnt be indicted and why he you were worried about michael cohen. And you said they were asking reached those conclusions. You all kind of questions that went more to his conduct even remember, this began as a Counter Intelligence and other peoples. Investigation as to whether any he was later indicted as we all u. S. Persons were acting as agents of a foreign power. Know. Hes headed to prison with one of the longer sentences. And that information may be of the greatest consequence of the country. And the policies is being distorted for financial or other reasons and that is the information that absolutely must be shared with the congress and im interested in my answers ultimately made public. In fact, there is a statutory to the long interview. What i want to know is when did obligation to inform the Trump Tower Moscow start getting intelligence committees of any negotiated . I was asked about that numerous significant intelligence times including at the end of my activity including counter voluntary when they said to me, intelligence. Look me in the eyes and said are so were fully going to expect that thats what the department you sure you dont know anything about Trump Tower Moscow . Is going do and if we need to compel them to do so, we will. And you said . I dont. I never heard about trump tower but we need to know at the end of the day that the president is moscow. So while i work for the president up newly august of acting out of the countrys interest and not because he 2015, if there were already negotiating Trump Tower Moscow, wants to build a Tower In Moscow that was news to me. Or any other purpose. Chairman, adam schiff joins us here on our live coverage of the Mueller Report has been if the president told campaign filed, 5 00 p. M. Eastern. Advisors to reach out either to everyone making sense of what roger or others on wikileaks. I think that would go to the comes next. When you look at the record is now we can mark the end of bob muellers actual investigation. Can you react to what he found. I want to go over with you before i let you go what hes done now, 37 indictments. Conspiracy. What go you think the trump sive world will say if there is no six former advisors that took collusion . I posed this question to the actions on behalf of mr. Trump. Senator and someone to chuck schumer. Lets see all the evidence. Lying to the fbi. But what is the reaction there . If this is the end, do you view because i will push you in tonights news as an indication advance and say to try to claim there are no other potentially sealed or remaining indictment that as a time to spike the thats we would learn about . Football would seem to be a and what does it mean in your reach. When theyve had the fastest view that bob mueller has this Indictment Rate of any president in history. Record of 37 indictments and its very funny you said finished the probe today . Well, what it means is that spike the football. I was talking to somebody that spoke to somebody at the white house. The office of the special a mutual friend of mine. They say get ready for us to spike the football for five months for five to seven months. Counsel is going to contract a attorney to the justice when were you told that . Department that that office wont be bringing any further today. After 5 00 p. M. . Indictments. It doesnt mean, of course, that every day anticipated report could have been released on main justice or the seventh wednesday or thursday. District of new york and the i think again we just dont Eastern District or others may know enough at this point to say not bring indictments. Its time for anybody to spike in fact, given the lengthy redactions in many of the pleadings of the Special Counsel the football. With you dont know what it will eluding to other investigations, say about a whole series of i think its entirely possible if not likely that there will be events. Ill push you on that. Its not time for Paul Manafort other indictments. Now how central or peripheral to spike the football. Hes been indicted in three theyll be to the core issues of different places or george. Potential conspiracy is yet to be determined. I give you a chance that hes the worst on this page. But in terms of the special but lets face it, were now counsels record, i think its tend of the probe which tells us something about the indictments. One asking about historic and heres what people have standards and nermz of the to remember. There are a couple of parallel swiftness of the investigation and the number of people close processes going on here. To the president that were criminal indictment, thats one indicted and convicted, the process. Oversight on the hill. Thats an entirely Different Number of russians indicted, the process. And its possible that there is conduct related in the mueller specificity of the information given about russias report that although it doesnt interference in our election. Ring a bell for criminal its a Signal Accomplishment for prosecution or the president is exempt, that would ring the bell any team of prosecutors. Chairman schiff, i trust for congress which is charged with looking at high crimes and youll be busy over this weekend given that the Attorney General says he may be briefing you and your colleagues as soon as this misdemeanors. It seems to me if he puts something out that is dra the maic or seemingly negative, weekend. Mia wiley, thank you for many thats only going to fuel the more. I want to turn to two colleagues interest of all parties, both sides, whatever you want to call of mine covering the story for it, to get even more information the entire 22 months. Chuck todd and nicole wallace, part of our special continuing and want to on a historic night, coverage right now. Put up the length of the other chuck, what does tonight mean . Reports. Irancontra, 566 pages. Youre going to have a legal the star report, which everyone battle between the congress and the Justice Department and how much we see and what we see and remembers, 445 pages. That will be good for plikdz. The larger political battle is as we head into the weekend we what to do about whats learned have the question marks. Based on your interaction with in it. The team, do you think bob right . We still have to know whats in mueller wrote up a lot of it. But, you know, if there is a evidence that well see . I think for sure he wrote up pretty solid Obstruction Case that gets laid out here, and a lot of evidence. But just as you noted, this is not an independent counsel. This is the Special Counsel regulations w very never seen a mueller decided no the to indict report under these guidelines before. So we really dont have a road it, he is mr. By the book, map. I think that, you know, its not right . And the book said sitting time to spike the football, i agree, however, there has been president cant be indicted, this narrative out there that then this congress is going to bob mueller has been leaving have Big Decisions to make. Bread crumbs in the previous doiment and first round of the the democratic side is more about the president ial russian nationals, he noted there were potentially unwitting americans potentially involved. Then you come to the roger stone indictment. There is that paragraph that we conditioned dat candidates though. Were all talking about was look at the president s behavior directed, who is doing the this week. If this is any indication, directing of roger stone to get because hes been bracing for mueller all week. That information. So i think there was this idea the entire mccain episode was that there was going to be this final round of indictments. Triggered by mueller. Hes been absolutely and george and were hearing today that there just isnt. And that tells you what . Conway questioned the stability. It tells as someone who faced i think hes very stable here. This is just a man who is that narrative that this was obsessed with one thing. All an elaborate setup that and you saw it in this there was an elaborate piece of the puzzle waiting for that last irrational thing about mccain. Element which was americans it is all driven by mueller. Colluding with russians. And so he is a wild card here. It clearly is not part of the Special Counsels move forward at this point. So now were really getting into it. Yeah. Im going to give a followup you to and let nick come back in and then we might dial in maia a locht tt of folks i talk t by phone. This is the beginning of the lets talk about one of the beginning of a brand new phase. Breadcrumbs. The roger stone indictment says there is evidence that people on the Counter Intelligence the Trump Campaign were investigation that he opened attempting to collude, were into donald trump after the firing of jim comey, that was asking for help from wikileaks. Thats a recent revelation in terms of information in the public sphere. We didnt know that all along mule her inherited a counter bob mueller finished. Intelligence investigation to answer this question. He didnt unseal any Is Donald Trump working for indictments. That is a fact. If youre watching. Russia . When we talk about the politics, im sure chuck is right about so youre saying you view that it. But that sbasis based on what w as a exoneration . Know now. A Counter Intelligence investigation of anyone doesnt no, absolutely not. You view it as what . End in an indictment. I think we really need read there say lot of coverage about carefully the section on indictments. Mueller didnt have any more declinations and the reasoning indictments. I think our network or news for the declinations given this organization has known that. Bad conduct that you note and the Counter Intelligence investigation is more than a flashing yellow light for the administration and congress. Wlosh to say what we know what the what the reasoning behind it is. Its unclear whether mueller is politics are right now is going go into an analysis of the ludicrous. Until we know how the questions were answered, bob mueller had law and whether or not does he feel that all of the elements of access to in the just all the Obstruction Of Justice were met. So im going to say this Intercept Intelligence from u. S. Again for viewers joining us on Intelligence Agencies, he saw the big news night. You faced muellers everything everybody heard. Investigators. And you have to go back to the you reached a deal on behalf of summer of 2016 to sort of george who reportedly started this whole probe off. Remember just how alarmed the i know you dont like it when we Intelligence Community was. Not just about russian meddling say. That and you were saying this is not an exoneration because it but about this bizarre really depends on whether intersection between the trump mueller lays out a bunch of campaign and russian meddling. Terrible stuff that he also may those are questions that someone not see chargeable. Is going to need to know the quick thought then bring in jim. Answers to before we turn the ive been saying the diagram, page on the mueller chapter. And that goes to what we may there is unseemly political and find out about this weekend. It is extraordinary to have the gross conduct that we as sitting Attorney General saying americans should not al

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