Transcripts For MSNBCW The Beat With Ari Melber 20191209 23:

MSNBCW The Beat With Ari Melber December 9, 2019 23:00:00

Disregard house rules. For what purposes . Just completelyusrules on not i wanted to confirm point addressing the Minority Hearing today. If i hear t that one more time, of order is the rules of ill address that when were decorum. I dont believe the gentleman marking up impeachment articles. What is the use of a minority from florida meant to violate him andnt i want to give him to hearing day if youre going have benefit of o doubt. To hear evidence of the markup than once he referred if you get the confirmation of to a new york lawyer. If hek is prepared to explain what he meant, i will withdraw the master bedroomrkup yourself. My Point Of Order. Even the most heated development does not know show any way that that is not a recognizable Point Of Order. Mr. Chairman, Point Of Order can be theyre. If you destroy the institutional regarding the schedule. There is no Point Of Order integrity, which again, the staff have talked about today, regarding the schedule. Well, onf this case there i if we destroy the institutional there is no Point Of Order integrity, there is nothing else regarding the schedule. For us to do. Will you answer my question . While we were here, there is the gentleman will suspend. Something that did happen. There is no recognizable point and as we were, sitting here a discussing whether to impeach of order regarding the future the president over asc call he d schedule. With the ukrainian president and okay. Parliamentary inquiry. Will you recognize that . President Zelensky Which took place on how there was a look at no. Ms. Mcbath is recognized. How it happened in 2016. Democrats are seeking to impeach thank you, mr. Chairman. The president over that, and mr. Goldman, i want to follow up were seeing the problems with on just one part of president the Russia Investigation play out again in front of our eyes. Trumps conduct that, excuse me, the fuss over the ukraine is the same thing, using the same ise asked our constitutional scholars about lastti week. Playbook. A select group of individuals the Investigative Committees colluding against president found evidence that President Trump to ensure they get him. Trump intimidated, threatened, and theyre blowing through every procedure to ensure they and tampered with perspective get him in time. Ro so what happened today . And actual witnesses in the Impeachment Inquiry. While we were stuck here, the correct . Yes. Inspector general report, the and mr. Goldman, it is a review of applications of the federal crime to intimidate or toim seek to intimidate any fbi crossfire hurricane investigation. Here are some of the top witness appearing before congress. Is that right . Nt findings. The fbi included inaccurate yes there is a little bit information in the carter page more to it, but thats the gist of it, yes. Mr. Goldman, am i correct fisa application. That President Trump publicly failed to include exculpatory attacked witnesses before, information. After, and even during their therm fbi chose to defensively testimony . That is correct. Brief candidate clinton, not id like to quickly go candidate trump. Through some examples. The fbi failed to disclose bruce on twitter, the president tried orrs information that was still to smear ambassador bill taylor, going to the clinton campaign. A former Military Officer who and altered another agencys graduated at the top of his email to mislead about whether Carter Pageut had actually been class at west point, served as an Infantry Commander in intelligent eesource. Vietnam, and earned a bronze the bottom line shows the feiss have a should have never been star and an air medal for valor. Obtained. If you dont have the page fisa, you dont have a russia he was attacked for doing his investigation. If you dont have a Russia Investigation, you cant knock duty to Tell The Truth to the out thet president and you can hamstring the president s First American thpeople. Two years with a Special Counsel correct . Er e. He did his duty by investigation. Testifying, yes. I could go wion, but well see President Trump also attacked other Trump Administration officials who testified before where it goes. I do want to take one last thing from our side, because this the Intelligence Committee, undoubtedly willse be the last including Lieutenant Colonel hearing because we have no desire to hear anything from our alexander s. Cbinman, who is t side, Minority Hearing or director for ukraine on the National Security council and otherwise. I want to take time to thank mr. Jenniferan williams, the Specia Adviser Onli Europe and russia castor and they have combined 15 with the e office of the vice to 20om Years Experience in the president. House conducting investigations am i right . That is right, yes. To protect american interests. Mr. Goldman, i think another what these Public Servants dont usually do is field questions troubling example of this is the from others from democrats, president s treatment of donors and pundits. Ambassador yovanovitch. They usually work for and when you questioned ambassador alongside members of the congress and fellow public yovanovitch, you asked her about servants. Im sorry today that the majority chose to highlight the president s remark that she their investigators and also the would, ands i quote, go throug onceal that have been brought i some things. Over these Public Servants. She told you that that remark im sorry that this is where sounded like a threat. Were at. But i would like to thank them isli that right . For their work today. Yes, in the july 25th call. I would like to thank them for thats when President Trump said their work on our behalf, but that. Also nor all the ones listed ambassador yovanovitch is a here. If you look around the room, this is what is happening to the American People. By the end of the day, most Career Professional who served inform the backy, left, most of in republican and democratic them members of the media are begging to go somewhere else, administrations. She was once caught in live because at the end of the day, the case isnt made. And one thing that keeps crossfire during a coup attempt. Amazingly said from mr. Goldman and heres how she described to the chairman to others, these that experience in her very own facts are undisputed. The very nature of the fact that words. I later served in moscow. I have to say i disagree and you say you dont is a disputed in 1993, during the attempted fact. These are disputed facts. Coup in russia, i was caught in it will be the first impeachment crossfire between president ial that thest partisan on facts th and parliamentary forces. Are not agreed to that. Is the state in which the it took us three tries, me Judiciary Has N become. We have become a rubber stamp, without a helmet or body armer just as the chairman predicted almost 20 yearsch ago when we to get into a vehicle to go to willingly accept from someone else a the embassy. We wentto because the ambassado project or a report that asked us to come, and we went we dont investigate ourselves. Because it was our duty. And with that, that is the problem we have, and that is the it was our duty. Farce called the Judiciary Committee impeachment scam today. I yield amback. Even under such duress, this is i now recognize myself for concluding remarks. A Public Servant who did with her duty. After hearing the reports and the evidence today, we now know and as she testified before you several things with certainty. And the Intelligence Committee, we know that the president was the president tweeted yet at the center of a scheme to anotheren attack against her. That correct . Pressure ukraine to announce an during the testimony, yes. Investigation of the president s political rivals. At a rally, the president further attacked ambassador he applied that pressure by taylor and Deputy Assistant withholding both the white house meeting and vital military aid. Secretary of the state george kent, foreignte Affairs Officia he made that demand directly to with decades of bipartisan president zelensky and confirmed his personal involvement on the service. I just have to say i am so white house lawn. Deeply saddened that our president has attacked our brave we know that there are no excuses for this conduct. Public servants. It is no excuse that president these attacks are an abuse of trump eventually released the aid after his scheme was his power, and they betray our revealed to the public, and it national interests. Is no excuse that he insisted my republican colleagues until that there is no quid pro quo now have agreed with me that only after his scheme was this behavior is not okay. Revealed to the public. We know that his actions that in america we protect endangered National Security, witnesses and people who tell putting our alliances, our the truth. Reputation and our safety at we want people to come forward. Risk. We know that the president also we protect witnesses in our compromised the integrity of our electionsof for a corrupt priva community. I myself am no stranger to these political purpose. Kinds of attacks. They are not okay. R we know that President Trump in i want to read a partial an unprecedented act of statement by Lieutenant Colonel obstruction ordered everybody in binman who is a officer and the Executive Branch to defy all Public Servant in his Opening Statement to the intelligence congressional subpoenas with committee. El mr. Itvinman said, and i quote, documents and subpoenas related want to say that the character to the Impeachment Inquiry. Attacks on these distinguished and we know that his attempts to and honorable Public Servants is solicit a political favor from the government of ukraine fit a reprehensible. I ran for congress because i pattern of conduct that the care urgently about health care, president established in 2016 when he solicited political gun violence prevention and our veterans. Assistance from the government of russia. Those are the urgent policies that pattern of misconduct for me and many of my colleagues. Undermines our National Security but these witnesses, these and Undermines Free and fair Public Servants stood up and elections. In abusing his office in this manner and then obstructing the courageously told the truth, and investigation that followed, we i must be courageous and stand know that President Trump has up for them as well. Put himself before his country. And i yield back the balance of my time. I am struck by the fact that my the gentle lady yields back republican colleagues have the balance of her time. Offered no serious scrutiny of the evidence at hand. A few minutes ago mr. Biggs they have talked about asked for consent to admit an everything else, but they have offered not one substantive word article from politico into the in the president s defense. Record. Without objection, mr. T stanto. Thank you, mr. Chairman. I suspect that is because there is at base no real defense for weve heard today from some the president s actions. Suggesting that this process has been somehow unfair. Mr. Goldman, lets clear up that record. President trump put himself before his country. Minority members on the there is a constitutional remedy Investigative Committees had for c a president who undermine access h to all witness depositions. Is that correct . Yes, and all the documents. Our National Security and our elections, who puts his own and were they allowed to ask interests before those of the country. That remedy is impeachment. Questions of every witness . The minority was given equal the facts are clear. Time to the majority for every the danger to our democracy is clear. Single interview, deposition, or hearing that we did. And our duty is clear. And the minority were allowed to call their own witnesses to President Trump violated his the live hearings, is that oath to the American People. Correct . Yes. And they did. And they got three witnesses. He placed his own private they were alsohr allowed to cal interests ahead of our national their own witnesses for the security and the integrity of depositions. They chose not to do that. Our elections and constitutes a the only witness they requested Forhe The Deposition was chairm continuing threat to the integrity of our elections and schiff, who is not a fact to our democratic system of witness to this investigation. Mr. Goldman, why did the government. Such conduct is clearly Investigative Committees decide to conduct initial depositions impeachable. This committee will proceed Behind Closed Doors . Accordingly. This concludes tttodays hearin. Best investigative practice when youre doing a fact finding we thank all of our representatives from mission is to keep the participating. Without objection, all members Whoje Have Legislative submit information closed. The reason is exactly what i additional written questions or described earlier with additional materials for the ambassador sondland, who first record. Of all, the day before his without objection, the hearing is adjourned. Deposition he spoke with Secretary Perry about his testimony. That is the type of tailoring you have been listening to a that can happen when people are Blockbuster Impeachment Hearing engaged in pmisconduct and the on capitol hill, 6 42 p. M. Try to line up their stories. So if you keep the information eastern in washington. A nine plus hour marathon that closed, they cant line up their ends with Chairman Nadler stories. And i think frankly part of the stating what many have been reasonpa why ambassador volker d expecting, the chairman saying what you just heard. Ambassador sondlands public this is clearly impeachable conduct, and we will proceed hearing testimony was so different from their deposition accordingly. A lot has been happening both in testimony is because the initial that room and throughout washington. I want to begin tonights coverage right now with maya depositions were in closed session before we then released wiley joining me on set for all Thee Transcripts to the legal analysis, former counsel public. To the mayor of new york city, and this isnt unprecedented, still a prosecutor in the Southern District of new york, because in both the nixon and Clinton Impeachment inquiries, and my favorite phone a friend there were either closed door depositions or grand jury lawyer. Proceedings at theti beginning nice to see you, maya. Inquiries . Nice to see you, ari. Thats correct. Nor it is unprecedented in a lot just happened. Congress. This is actually a rule in the a lot of our viewers have seen house rules that was passed by some of it. Republican congresses. It was used in benghazi. Not all have seen all of it. It was used by a number of this Cosm Abid The New Ig report committees for the past decade or so. And s for clarity, president which ill get to soon with a trump has received all very special guest. But before i turn to all of, proceduralce protections afford that and we have that covered for everyone, what do you see as to other president s facing the key takeaway, as the impeachment, is that correct . Thatac is right. In the Judiciary Committee he advancement of a hearing that to has had all of the options. Those who have been following it closely was picking back over a our inquiry was not the lot of meat that we have seen Judiciary Committees from the Intelligence Report . Investigation that is where the yeah, i think the key president s ability to present evidence. Of course, if the president wanted to present evidence in the Intelligence Committee,wa h takeaways were really, one, that could have provided documents. The democrats, particularly he could have provided the through dan goldman laid out witnesses we asked for him, but he obstructed rather than exactly why there is so much cooperated. And the president has been invited tosi participate in the evidence

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