Road trip. President obama takes his message to the people. Occur we get it done in spite of congress. The guest spot to handicap the second term agenda. They said the president lacks the guts to deal with his own party. Isnt that like the sky calling the ocean blue . We now know marco rubio can hold a bottle, but did his message hold water . Watergate part two. Take it from crystal ball. If you have nothing nice to say, dont say anything at all. Did i say that . The state of the union is on the road. The president is bringing his state of the Union Promises straight to the people less than 15 hours after addressing a joint session of congress. Barack obama is onna i threeday road trip to bring home the themes he laid out last night. Back at the white house after focusing on manufacturing in the middle class in north carolina. The true engine has been the middle class. Three things we should ask. Number one, how do we bring more jobs to america. Number two, how do we equip people with the skills they need to do the jobs . Number three, how do we make sure that once they have a job, it leads to a decent living. That is the same message we heard last night to bring manufacturing jobs back to the u. S. And trade the workers for the positions. The road trip itself matches the it deserves a vote theme. Instead of fighting congress himself, he is trying to enlist the country and pressure them to at least vote on the big issues. Job creation, and gun control. Looking at you, speaker boehner. We cant go off the coverage. Thanks for being here. My pleasure. Looking back at this speech, i guess in the run up to state of the unions, we say they talk for an hour and nobody remembers anything they say. Sometimes for a lot more than an hour. Bill clinton is not there anymore. Not mentioning names. Did you hear anything that will stand the test of time . We might be talking about 10 or 20 years from now . Anybody who remembers the speech will remember they deserve a vote. Both the benefit and the risk to a president in using a line like that. 1941, Franklin Roosevelt gave an address to congress, state of the union in which it was interesting. He denounced a lot of opponents saying accusers of hitler, but all anyone remembers is the four freedoms from one speech and freedom of religion. What he wanted to do was to convey not only the four freedoms, but to say we are fighting a war against the accusers of hitler to achieve those four freedoms. All people remember is that line. Thinking about the republican response from marco rubio, it strikes me that its a statement from him and where the Republican Party is right now a few months after a loss at the polls. I wonder how you compare to what you heard and what it says about where the party now is with where other parties have been a few months after losing to a reelected president. The democrats with bush or reagan got reelected. Where do you think they are right now relative to other parties in this position . What they are doing and marco rubio reflected that, there is going to be a struggle. Its not as large as it was in 1964 after the gold water defeat or the democrats after 1972, but last night was one of the opening volleys in the battle that you will see between the conservative wing of the Republican Party and what is thought of as the modern plan. Back tow obama for a second. He seemed rhetorically to signal a message and a call for a smarter, leaner government. He talked about bureaucracy reform and trimming bureaucracy. Gone was the message of you didnt build that, the government helped you. And the government is not the solution to every problem. There were a lot of policies with Big Government solutions and taking that message alone, is it typical in a state of the Union Address to have such a jarring new message that you unveil and does that generally get followed by real policy change . I guess i would see it as less of a new message after that. If you look at what president obama said in the inaugural about government on the in American Society and contrast that with what was said when he was sworn in. Thats the problem am you can look at them as book ends. One say statement and the other a response. What was said last night and what the president said as an inaugural. Thats interesting as book ends. I think you are right about that. I wonder if you can compare the boldness. Policy agenda that was laid out in the speech last night versus president s past. One of the criticisms is his agenda was small board. I didnt see it that way. The increase in the minimum wage and universal prek, immigration, guns, infrastructure invest these are big ideas and i was wondering how it compares. After the election, barack obama said he got the overreaching in the second term. He did not want to set himself up for saying a lot of things. You know one thing that johnson wanted was a Voting Rights bill and he didnt think the time was right. Then came the violence that selma where americans were disgusted and they said we shall overcome. Thats a different issue and a different time. Thats what the president was trying to do with gun control. Part of the theater of the state of the union evening is that the Opposition Party doesnt stand and applaud for almost anything that the president talks about and i know both parties do it, but the republican parties had a critical moment. When you have not standing for things like hay quality education and paycheck fairness for women, it hammers home the party of no brand that is not working. Where did the tradition come from . Does it have any effectiveness at all . The most important is television. Everyone knows they may be on camera and if you are clapping if are a line in the president s speech and you are a republican, that might be taken as an endorsement. Both parties tend to enter on the cautious side and you are right that the a occasions are a rule. You can look at the past and the last time a Republican Party faced a reelected president that was a congress led by Newt Gingrich with bill clinton and there was a shift from the republican posture in the second term and impeachment not with standing, you had the Health Insurance program and you had real legislative progress. Do you think there is a parallel and you expect them to be more legislatively cooperative or more of the same . My guess would be no and you have to go on the history and the fact that also what is difference is that the dems hold one house of congress and they are slightly in a more strong position. Thank you for joining us. Up next, is it him . Investigators working to confirm that the man who led to a frenzied manhunt is dead. The latest out of california is next. The lest for february 13th, 2013. Im a conservative investor. 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A wallet with a california drivers license bearing the name Christopher Dorner has been found in the rubble of the cabin authorities surrounded yesterday in an attempt to bring an end to the sixday manhunt for the former cocop and military man who declared war on the lapd. A charred body has been found, but it will take days before they can be certain if its dorner. This strange sad story seemed to have come to an end, but not before four people were killed including the daughter of a Police Captain and officers who tried to confront him yesterday. On the scene for days and joins us now, whats the latest . Reporter right now the coron Coroners Office is examining the remains and no word on when they might be able to make an identification. The authorities are assuming or seem to be acting as if it was Christopher Dorner. This was straight out of a movie. He was surprised by two women where he was holed up over the weekend and fled in one of the vehicles and wrecked that vehicle and stole another one at gunpoint and wrecked that one. Ran into the woods in the San Bernardino area and the deputies followed the footprints through the snow to a second cabin where he was holed up. There was a shootout with police with the deputies and one was kill and another seriously wounded. Then they tried to get in. They broke a window and threw in tear gas and warned him and asked him to come out. When there was no response, they started using a bearcat to break down the walls to get in. At that point according to Law Enforcement, they heard a single gunshot inside and a fire broke out. Not clear yet how that fire broke out. They let it burn. They didnt want to go inside because they were not sure what was inside. They thought ammunition might be inside which explodes and goes off when it heats up, but at the end of it, they did find a body late last night and the coroners are examining that today and as that is going on, in riverside the funeral is going on for one of the riverside policemen killed on thursday believed to be one of Christopher Dorners four victims. Dramatic story. Thank you. Lets turn to don clark, former special agent in charge of the new york fbi. There is an extra special challenge that we talked about with chasing dorner for the lapd and the related bureaus in that hes a man with great military training and great police training. They had to worry about extra things. Whats the challenge when you are chaying somebody who knows your tactics and is expert in them. You put it on the market there. He is someone that is welltrained. Having all of that training and so forth, what the organizations have to do in this case and the Police Officers did a good job in trying to protect them. They have to start to look at this now. Yes, she one of us. For the citizens and everybody around, put whatever activities they need to to stop it or try to stop it then. Of the other elements of this case was in his facebook manifesto. Dorner said he expected to die. He was prepared for his own death. How did that complicate a manhunt and investigation. Clearly it does complicate the situation when you get that information that someone has made that point that they intend to die. What it tells you is that anything could happen. What the Law Enforcement entities have to do and i think they did a good job, they have to take that part of the situation and look at it as one set and still look at number one, protecting the citizens and number two, trying to bring this guy in safely. Looking at the images yesterday, i couldnt help but think back to waco in 1993 and the initial week of that, there were conspiracy theories that strung up and how do we know that koresh was in there and was this a decoy and were there decoy bodies . Do you think there is a potential for that talk to start up again here . How personality is it that they are able to establish conclusively that this is his body . You will always have a thank goodness its a small amount of people who will tend to want to go in that direction that you mentioned and you are right that people do take on those things as if no, thats not him and he is still around someplace. We trust Law Enforcement and they are trained. We are going to follow the legal law as it should be and make sure that we get the right information on and not really worry about those people who bring that on as long as we have the facts are accurate. Some of the things we were surprised to see unfold throughout this case was that a number of people were rooting dorner on. That seemed bizarre to a lot of us. I dont know if you can speak to this, but have you had experience with that as part of this around the investigation and how does that complicate things if at all . I guess i had an experience with that type of thing. Surely there people that want to take on the poor guy, if you will or the good guy that they might call him. Whatever the case may be. The Law Enforcement component cannot allow itself to become overwhelmed with that type of activity. Just keep doing the appropriate things that we know to do. They have the information. They have to protect the citizens and cannot let that type of information come in from a very small group of our society to cause someone else to be injured or killed. I notice through the situations they seem to be using the media as if they knew he was listening to them through the media, saying certain things and not saying others. They saw that with the d. C. Sniper. Sending messages to him to try to speak to him. How do you deal with that when you not just use the military tactic, but media strategy . You do. You have to have a plan. Law enforcement is sophisticated now. We had psychologists and so forth that helps us to deal with the sprnlt traits and the types of things they may look for. What you dont want to do here is get your investigation bogged down worrying about what that small entity or group is trying to do instead of trprotecting o citizens and apprehend this person one way or the other. All right. Don clark. Thank you very much. Coming up, the president s recurring row freezing rain to congress. Send me something to sign. The man who tells it to us straight. The governor ed rendell is in the guest spot next. 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We had clinton on deficit reduction. What makes president obama think this will be different . Steve, good afternoon. White house Officials Say this is really a conditionation of the conversation that president obama started with congress and the American People last night. I would say more brudly, this is really a key part of the strategy in terms of trying to get the policies passed through congress. In this instance, you have president obama out today and talking about investing in new manufacturing projects. New infrastructure anding in ad that, childhood education and stiffer gun control laws. As a way to pressure congress, get this passed in the court of Public Opinion first. That is what we expect president obama to do not just this week, but the coming weeks. Tomorrow he will be in georgia. On friday he will be in chicago. Again, talking about these key aspects of the plans and policies that he unveiled last night. I can tell you that he ticked off a number of goals that he would like to see happen and a lot of them poled very well. A lot of skepticism about this is all going to get paid for. The president said this will all be paid for and we are expecting to see the details in his budget that will be released in the next several days. As of right now, a big question mark about how the larger proposals are going to be paid for. We expect president obama not just to be out on the road this week, but the coming weeks as he tries to get the policies passed. Gun control could be the most difficult. A lot of resistance to that in congress. Thanks for that. In the guest spot is former pennsylvania governor nbc news analyst and allaround the democratic analyst ed rendel