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Cycle score one for the establishment. Im Jonathan Capehart in for ari. We are closely watching the markets as they hang on the every word of one woman. Who . Not me. Janet yellen. Shes on today with some good news and a warning about the economy. Krystal, i hang on your every word. The most infamous intern is back. 16 years after her affair with president clinton, why is Monica Lewinsky speaking out now . A lot of people are wondering that today. So is abby. If millennials are twitter, washington much aol. Im abby huntsman, can we click our way to better government. Come into our domain. Its the cycle. We start with the comeback of the gop establishment, maybe. Last nights primary results inNorth Carolina appear to show the tea party cooling. Senate candidate tom tillis cruised to victory with 46 of the vote avoiding a costly runoff. His victory with help from the u. S. Chamber of commerce and gop figures sent a stinging message to the party that the road to Senate Majority goes through them. Its not the end of the primary, but the beginning of the primary mission, thats to beat kay hagan and make harry reid irrelevant. Before tillis gets there, he has to defeat current North Carolina senator kay hagan whosly won her primary last night with 77 of the vote. With the gop sails at their backs, the dems majority in jeopardy, with the defeat of the tea party last night, who you think was in a better mood when they woke up this morning . Republicans or democrats. Always in a good mood is friend of the show, Political Columnist dana milbank. Dana, answer the question. Who was in a better mood . Or Jonathan Capehart. Jonathan capehart has all reasons to be in a good mood. I think its sort of a mixed bag. The good news here is, as you point out, the republican establishment has found a way to beat back the tea party. The bad news for them is the way theyve beaten back the tea party is basically by becoming the tea party. So, yes, they found a way to repel the insure general seerks but have done this by going far to the right. This guy tillis, hes hardly some return to the moderate republicans, hes every bit as conservative as a lot of these tea party guys are. So the democrats are also saying, yes, we may not be getting christine odonnell, but were getting the next best thing and thats a real far right establishment republican. Dana, funny you should mention that. I have compiled a brief list of a few of the highlights of tom tilliss sort of views. He doesnt believe in climate change, opposes increase in minimum wage. Even seemed sketchy on whether there should be a minimum wage at all. He supports personhood, helped pass the most restrictive voter law in the country. He banned sharia law. Thats vital. Thats a good thing. He is a very far right conservative guy. He led this conservative movement in raleigh which went so far to the right that voters really revolted against it. I actually think for kay hagan, its sort of a good thing that she now has her opponent and can start to talk about him and defy him. The narrative in the primary was that he was the, quote, unquote, establishment more moderate candidate. The reality is that he is extremely far out there. I think she wouldnt have minded if he had to spend more money fighting it out in a primary before she had that chance to define him, but certainly now she has something to focus on. The choice is always the incumbent or unknown, you can always say, well, maybe that unknown would be Something Better than what weve got now. Now they actually have an actual alternative. They go into positions on the things you mentioned, on birth control, all kind of other issues and make it more about him and less about kay hagan in defense of obamacare or anything else about this president who is not so popular at this moment in North Carolina. The takeaway, though, from last night it was a huge win for especially the establishment republicans. What this does do is give them even more hope to take the senate in the midterms because i think North Carolina being a purple a state that many people are watching closely sets the tone in a lot of ways for the rest of the country. Washington post the fix had this out last night. They give the gop an 82 chance of taking the senate which is much stronger odds than even the most bullish republican strategists. Im wondering what your takeaway is from this. How much of this prediction and the fact were seeing it a lot more likely that republicans could take the senate, how much of it is about the quality of the candidates and how much of it is about how people are feeling about the sluggish economy, about president obama and, of course, about health care that is still struggling to get a majority of support . I have the high ertd regard for my colleagues who put out the fix. Theres a 50 likelihood of it being correct. We call that a burn. We have no idea whats going to happen in november. We dont know whats going to happen between now and what even the issues will be. Theres still a long time and a lot of things that can happen. Its not going to be a good year for democrats. It was never going to be a good year for democrats because its the second term of an incumbent democratic president. And because the vulnerable democrats are running in some pretty red states. Now, North Carolina being not as red as some of the other ones. This is always tricky. It doesnt mean democrats are necessarily weak around the country. It means theyre weak in seven or eight states which, if you do the math in the senate, if the republicans take those, thats the end of the majority. Thats absolutely right. This year were fighting on romney territory, red territory, 2016 a lot of these senate race also be in obama territory, blue territory and the predictions will look a lot different. Getting back to the idea that this year is a tea party referendum, surely the anger that existed in 2010 is not in the zeitgeist now. Theres a lot of angry folks, not quite that angry. But sort of this idea of waiting for the end of the tea party and watching each race to say, does this mark the end or are they getting stronger . It misses the idea that this is just the newest name for a movement that has existed in this country or a sentiment that has existed in this country for well over 100 years. Exactly. Its become a catchall for all the various strains of what we have on the right. Rand paul didnt do will in his endorsement in North Carolina. That doesnt mean the tea party is struggling, or does that mean that libertarians have difficulty . Theres so many different strains. At this moment the pendulum seems to have swung away from the resurgence and the rebellion, in large part because theyve been coopted. I think every time we write the obituary of the tea party, in a way its pointless because if there is an obituary to be written, its only because their body has been entirely occupied by the republican party. Thats an interesting image. Dana, in terms of our colleague, chris ill liss is a and the 82 likelihood that the republicans will take the senate, you see all sorts of polls from all sorts of organizations saying the republicans intend to take the senate, hold the house and make president obamas life miserable, how much of a disservice are those polls doing when were focused on who is going to win as opposed to what the candidates are saying and the positions theyre take . Certainly we can be moan the effect of poling on our system. We might as well be whistling into the wind. Theres not much we can do about it. I would prefer in an ideal world that wed be dealing with the issues. But jonathan, we can just be happy. Like a room without a roof. Pharrell. Thats whats up. Dana milbank, thank you. Up next, shes back, whether hillary likes it or not. Well spin on the profile thats been trending all day as the cycle rolls on for wednesday, may 7th. You, my friend are a master of diversification. 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Man torlaksons Career Readiness initiative is helping schools expand job and Technical Training across the state because it makes a difference. Woman so tell Tom Torlakson to keep fighting for the career and Technical Training our students need. This is pretty big. For the first time in ten years, Monica Lewinsky is breaking her silence about her affair with bill clinton for a new essay in vanity fair. In the essay she says its time to burn the barre, bury the dress and move on. Americans said, we did 15 years ago. Where have you been . Were over it. That was jimmy fallon last night expressing what many are feeling about Monica Lewinskys vanity fair article set for release tomorrow. One person who isnt over it is monica. For the first time in over a decade lewinsky writes about her after fir with president clinton and of the public humiliation she faced in its aftermath. She claims she was taken advantage of but that the affair was conventional. She writes in detail about how hard life has been since, including having a hard time finding work. One of the Big Questions is why write it and why not . Lets start there and spin on this. We have a lot to talk about. Everybody is talking about this vanity fair spread. Here is the thing. She wanted to tell her story. Anyone in her situation would want to tell the other side of it. Shees probably wanted to tell it for 16 years. What time better than now when the media cant get enough of the clintons. Here is the other thing. I think republicans need to realize this. They are struggling to figure out the right tone in all of this. This story has not impacted the clintons in 16 years. Bill clinton became the most popular politician in the world after this. Hillary ran for senate a few years later and she won. Why is this going to impact them now . If anything, it makes hillary look better. It makes her more human which is something she struggles with. She tood by her family. She also takes some of the blame, says i actually feel like part of me is to blame for what happened. I think republicans need to tread lightly. Speaking of republicans treading lightly. Lets talk about Monica Lewinsky, vanity fair and Hillary Clinton. I wonder if this isnt an effort on the clintons part to get it out of the way. Would vanity fair publish anything about Monica Lewinsky that Hillary Clinton didnt want in vanity fair . Thats very interesting. Hillary clinton, former first lady, former senator from new york, and contributing editor to vanity fair. The clintons have these super powers republicans seem to think that the clintons rule the world, secretly moving the gears and shifting things, that they can stop stories from being run. The idea that Hillary Clinton would collude with Monica Lewinsky to put this out in order to help her president ial bid by getting it out early is beyond ridiculous. She doesnt want her life defined by others. This is pretty much the last moment she has to make that case. She says if i dont do this now, ill have to be quiet eight to ten years. She says it now, she has the least possible impact on the president ial race as opposed to any moment going forward. In a month hillarys book comes out and the potential race grows and gross. The last thing she needs is clinton world coming after her once again. Shes already injected into this race by folks like rand paul who she speaks directly to when she says we were both consenting adults. She admits she needs money. She had a 10 million book deal that fell apart for whatever reason. Shes going to get a nice check or has gotten a check. I have friends written for vanity fair. I can imagine its worth 30,000 or 40,000. If youre not working, a fantastic bump for her. Another interesting thing is she says shes not been paid off by the clintons. A lot of people thought she must have been being paid off by the clintons for not having spoken for all this time. Shes working on a book. They didnt call hillary and say, do you think we can do this . This is what amazes me about this entire story. This happened and it had zero negative impact on the clintons, none. Theyre teflon. Krystal and i have been going back and forth. Imagine if this were reversed. Imagine if Hillary Clinton when bill was president , she was the one having the affair. She would be toast. No way shed run for the senate. No way shed be running for president back then or wed be talking about her running today. I think its totally hypocritical. It reminds of being back in high school. They get a high five in the locker room and the girl is considered a slut. I totally agree. We have to speculate about that because its essentially never happened, a woman political official has been caught in an affair of this sort. The thing ive been thinking about as a few of you mentioned, monica has had a hard time. This is something she did when she was in her very early 20s. Its essentially ruined her life. In the excerpt released, they talk about the tough times shes had getting a job. She interviewed for various jobs but because of what potential employers who tactfully refer to as my history, she writes, i was never quite right for the position. This is a woman with a masters degree, highly educated, should be pretty well sought after and has been unable to recover from an incident that happened in her 20s. She also talks about how she was the most humiliated person in the world. Meanwhile, bill clinton is one of the most popular politicians in the world. I just think this is so typical of what happens in these situations. We talk about the powerful man and can he recover and is he going to be rehabilitated. Generally he is. The woman meanwhile goes her separate ways, full of shame. Monica also talks about how she considered suicide. Life ruined. Im glad to hear her story. You never see the other woman, right, Hillary Clinton, explode out of this. Her likability was below 50 before this happened. It has never been below 50 since this happened. You talk about humanizing her. This connects her to so many women who had the same sort of thing happen to them. Look how she handled it. Shes a regular person like me, has to deal with this tough stuff. This has been the career boost she would never ask for. Maybe jonathan your conspiracy theorists will say she did it on purpose. It was all planned. Set her up to run for president. Ooh, the theories. Here is something e find interesting. Were hearing from monica lewinsky for the first time in 16 years. Imagine if monica were if it were to happen today in our society today, what would have happened . We would have heard a whole lot from Monica Lewinsky. She wouldnt be able to escape. She would have had a reality show, would have had a column somewhere. A twitter handle with millions of followers. Exactly. I think the thing thats been most impressive to me from the very beginning is how Monica Lewinsky has held herself back. Held herself back . Shes been trying to do lectures, trying to do a book deal. Shes been trying. Shess just not able to give up all the goods that people want to hear. She tried to sell the story and failed. Shes tried but wont do what publishers and speaking folks want her to do. Shes not going to sell herself in order to survive which i think by todays standards, i think its rather impressive. I do, too. But the story happened to her. She doesnt have anything else to say. I think shes got plenty to say. She just wont say it. I love awkward moments. Up next. To your point, i think a scandal today, that would never recover itself. I do think a president would be impeached today if that happened. Thats my honest opinion. 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