He must have answered, no, because now officials are vowing to prosecute him alleging e ini lied on the health forms. Theres also a legal order keeping duncans family at home. It was learned that the family had allowed guests to come into the house even after this crisis began. And another potential scare in hawaii is over. The cdc says the patient does not fit the ebola profile. We are awaiting an update from dallas. And the pentagon and state department are also about to lead a Panel Discussion on combatting the outbreak in west africa. We start, though, in washington with nbcs tom costello. And tom, you are the airlines expert. Passengers are now being told to be cautious. But theres no hard restrictions in place as of now. No, i think its important to note that theyre not really being told to be cautious about an existing threat. And United Airlines is reaching out to everybody who is on those two flights that united operates, one from brussels to washingtondulles and dulles over to dallas. Just advising them, listen, there was a patient onboard who later exhibited the symptoms for ebola but did not exhibit those symptoms when he was on the plane. The cdc has been very clear that the risk would appear to be zero in their words that he was contagious when he was on those planes because he was asympt asymptomatic. But they say its the right thing to do to let everybody be aware of the situation and telling them if they feel the need to contact the cdc, they can certainly do so. As it relates to now determining, exactly who might be at risk, that really is happening in dallas with the Dallas Health authorities and with the hospital there. Its not really a big concern as it relates to the airlines right now. Nbcs tom costello, thank you as always. And joining us from cdc headquarters steve Monroe Deputy director of the National Center for emerging and infectious diseases. Thank you very much for being with us. Its my pleasure. Thank you. Your teams at the cdc can have the best protocols in place, but as we recently learned in dallas, that doesnt matter if hospitals dont end up following them. We realized there was a potential for a case to show up anywhere in the u. S. So weve worked to put out guidance so all hospitals in all parts of the country are prepared to recognize a case and to act appropriately if they do determine somebody if youre asking folks, hey, have you been exposed . And everyones saying, no, it seems pro forma. Do you know are there cases where folks have selfreported, i have been exposed and turned around. There have been a number of what we would call persons under investigation where people have traveled to the region and had symptoms, maybe just a fever. But in further followup asking them what kinds of exposure to have, it turns out they didnt have any reasonable exposure and so there was no further testing. We have tested samples from about 15 different people who had some level of risk to see if they might have been exposed. And in all cases up until this one in dallas, those samples were negative. Another aspect in terms of our coordinated response here in the u. S. Is the fact that we havent had a Surgeon General in place in over a year due to some political insight, infighting and opposition from the nra. I asked dr. Paul farmer who is chief of the division of Global Health equity in boston if that mattered. And he said right now we need can you repeat the question . I cant hear the question any longer. Can you hear us, dr. Monroe . You know what, were going to come back to you. Officials are in dallas right now giving an update on the situation. Lets listen in. To embed there, as well. We have the top doctor in the world, the top ebola doctor in the world here on the ground. Hes embedded in another group at presbyterian. We got a good team of experts and people in place. And i want to stress to you that the people that are here assisting the great work thats already been done by our local Health Department and our local agencies are people that i and our Dallas County health and Human Services worked well with and mayor rollings and others have worked well with. We have a high degree of confidence in those people to assist us in this action. Dallas county will act as the lead agency. But when it comes to planning those decisions will be made with the advice and council of our partners from the cdc. And the state, the department of state health services. Like weiss, i want to get the input as we go forward and continue our Strong Partnership with the city of dallas, disd and other agencies and groups in the Dallas County. The hospitals all hospitals are represented through their agents over there at the incident command and were moving quickly to continue and expedite the investigation and surveillance into these matters. Couple of things and im going to turn it over to someone. Last night, we placed orders on a family. We did that after balancing many things. We do not intend to have to do that again. But theres nothing more important than keeping you safe. And that based on the information we had which i will not be publicly disclosing to you today, it was clear to me, a democrat and governor perry a republican and everyone who looked at that information that the cdc, we laid it out for them. That the actions that we took while unusual were appropriate. And theyre there to come to, you know, for the safety of the family as well as the safety of the public. We have some hygiene issues that we are addressing in that apartment. This is a fluid situation. We have a contractor, there are protocols that have to be followed to clean and to take care of the things that need to be taken care of in there. We have a contractor who will be there as soon as possible and will take care of those issues that are of concern to dr. Lakey and myself and our Health Department. We have food, we have delivered several days of food to that apartment. Those people in the apartment are part of part of Dallas County. And theyre going to be treated with the utmost respect and dignity in this unusual situation. Dr. Lakey and i are going to reach out and put our eyes on that. And i want to commend jennifer for her incredible work with that neighborhood. I realize that if you live anywhere near that neighborhood, youre nervous now, that the science hasnt changed overnight. This is not like the flu, its not something where it spreads broadly through the community. You can only get sick, you only contract it from someone who is having symptoms. And remember that the only person who had symptoms is mr. Duncan who is in the hospital. And no one who has been around mr. Duncan during the time that he has been similymptommatic ha shown any indication of having contracted ebola or being sick from any other, you know, related illness. So this is a matter that we have a high degree of confidence we can control. And we are working to get the response, which has been a good response strengthened, you know, every hour of the day. Lets see if theres anything else. Oh, on the incident command, the name of the person thats going to be Incident Commander for us is chief doug bass. He is our Emergency Management chief. He is not going to be available for interviews for yall. Their job at incident command is to gather information and get tasks done that are given to them as the policy is laid down for them. And they are busy doing that. Very busy doing that. And theres not going to be time for them or for any of our Section Chiefs in this unified command to give interviews for the next few days. My chief of staff will head up the pios there and will have a joint communication with the city and disd and others and well try to get that information out as close to realtime as we can so that you can get that information to the public. We want to be as transparent as we can be. And we want to have the publics confidence. And we know the best way to have the publics confidence is to earn that confidence every single day. And were going to do everything we can to do that. I see dr. Theresa daniel. You should come up here because youre more than welcome to come up here. And the county commissioners court, the sheriff, all your county elected officials and Department Heads are working hard, theyre working together, theyre providing support, same thing with the city and the school district. And with that, and were going to take questions from you. With that, im going to turn it over to who is getting the band back together, dave is here again. So, dave, you want to say a few words from the cdc . Hi, im dave with the centers for Disease Control and prevention. Thank you very much, judge. First of all, i want to tell you were really happy to be here. Were invited by the state and the county and the city and we get to work with them on this investigation and do the Contact Tracing. So we have a team of about ten folks. And its ten folks here on the ground, but you have to keep in mind, cdc is literally hundreds of folks back in atlanta while working Emergency Operations center, working different teams like lab and epi. And approximately over 130 folks deployed in west africa doing the same Contact Tracing work were doing here. And were fortunate that several of the team several folks on our team here in dallas have experience in west africa. So we are we are doing exactly that, were working with the county. Were going to do Contact Tracing. Were going to divide up in two teams. One team will stay at the hospital. The other team is what we call a Community Team and working once again with our partners. Well do community. The formal Contact Tracing where i think youve heard already theres a list of about 100 potential contacts. And that will be called down to a list that will begin the Contact Tracing on. And so, once again, its great to be here, thanks for having us. And i think probably do questions later and ill get out of the way. Youve been watching update from officials in dallas on that ebola outbreak. Again, there is one patient still being treated at Texas Health Presbyterian hospital. Officials stressing they will do Everything Possible to keep residents safe. And coming up, as we continue this hour, theres a new agent protecting the president. But can the agency protect itself from the revelations that still lie ahead . We are live at the white house. 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Its one more part of our commitment to america. President obama just wrapped up an economic speech outside of chicago. But he has been largely silent on the series of missteps that led to the resignation of secret service head julia pearson. You saw that break during our show on wednesday. And now 24 hours removed, we know theres about to be a new person in charge, that would be interim head Joseph Clancy who starts on monday. And he is no stranger to the agency. He served each president since bill clinton, including president obama. But even before he begins, clancy is already under the microscope from critics who argued that an outsider needs to be brought in. Nbcs Kristen Welker is at the white house. And kristen, tell us how is the administration responding to that particular criticism . He has worked, headed up, worked comcast for the past three years. So he does bring to some extent a fresh perspective to what a lot of people see as sweeping problems within the agency. Having said that, he has a lot of experience, as you point out. Hes a 30year veteran. Hes been involved in president ial security dating all the way back to bill clinton. I just spoke with one of his former colleagues that says he knows how every alarm function appears at the white house. He is the right person to come in and to fix this problem and improve security. Of course hes going to be under a lot of scrutiny. Congressman cummings and issa, both on the same page, saying hes a good pick. Hes someone with the trust of the first family, protected president obama. That is important, as well. I just spoke with congressman issa about that, he says thats a key factor. Hes expected to come in to hit the ground running. Hes someone who has not completely evaded the controversy himself. He was, in fact, ahead of the president ial detail in 2009 when that reality tv couple tsalahis crashed the state dinner. I have asked the friends and colleagues about that, they say its not disqualifying. Ive been speaking to my sources here at the white house. He does start on monday. And he has called for a briefing to really bring him up to date on the changes that have been made since this latest security breach. And, again, the expectation is hes going to hit the ground running. Baaing to you guys. All right. Kristen welker at the white house, thank you so much. And lets bring in editorial director and msnbc political analyst howard fineman. Good day to you. Hi, ari. You look the a this issue, obviously everyone can take some solace here in there being a turn and change of leadership. But when you look at the challenge for the administration, howard, its not over. They have a report now thats going to come out in december on the wider, potentially systemic issues here beyond staff changes. And from their perspective, this is obviously highrisk, lowreward. Theyre going to have to revisit this again. What else do they have to do . Well, theyre facing what is essentially less a matter of intruders and imminent danger than it is a very naughty bureaucratic problem with security bureaucracy doubling it. The logic of security is endless, the logic of of bureaucracy is endless. Dont forget the secret service was taken out of one department and put under of another department. Thats a problem. The security world as a whole has grown enormously. In competition for savvy young recruits. For Something Like the secret service is much more difficult than it used to be. Its hard to train and maintain those people. And i think there was a morale problem as a result of multiple controversies, the departure of the former head of the secret service mr. Sullivan. Julia pearson who came in was his chief of staff, that clearly was not a big enough change. I think mr. Clancy, who ive met. Ive seen him on the trail over the years, he will reassure, if nothing else, first of all, he will reassure the obama family itself. Including Michelle Obama who everybody says has been absolutely furious about the various lapses over the last few years and understandably so. Hell reassure them. And then i think he knows where the bodies are buried. He knows the problems at the secret service having been out of it for a while. He may be the right guy if hes tough enough. And i think he is based oen what ive seen of him on the campaign trail. If we know anything about the inner workings of the obama family, the last person in that family we want furious with you is mama bear michelle, especially when talking about the health and security of her kids. She has two teenage daughters. Teenage daughters there. Yeah. But, you know, the secret service has problems that i wonder if are greater than hiring a new person. The secret service under obama is dealing with three times the threats they got with any other president. And theyre dealing with them with 500 fewer folks because of budget cuts. These are structural challenges that changing the leadership cant address. Well, two things i would say. First of all, as they say in the military, they talk about detooth to tail. Theres a high tail ratio. The number of people actually on the street hasnt necessarily. And, again, thats the combination of security and bureaucracy. So that thats part of the problem. And i also think in the case of what happened on the white house lawn, it was just very poor execution, lack of oversight, lack of focus. And the other thing is, the secret Service Still has other functions besides protecting the president. They still have some other residual functions from long ago in their history they need to get rid of it. And it needs to become what it should be, which is tied closely to the fbi to the cia. You know, the secret service itself is not going to do all of that scanning of possible terror threats, of possible intrusions in the white house. And the secret service is on an island of its own and not fully plugged in. Thats one of the reasons they put it in the department of Homeland Security which is, itself, a colossal mess. The reason we know about all of these incidents because of people inside the secret service agency. We likely would not know otherwise. And that is a clear sign to me that theyre honored to serve the president but it can be very tough at times, very frustrating job and not easy to talk to the higher ups about somebody you might disagree with. These are deep rooted structural problems i think we were