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MSNBCW The Cycle June 4, 2015

Our countrys best days lie ahead. There is nothing wrong in America Today that a change in leadership will not make happen. Doing it the best i can yeah doing the best i can i keep on doing it the best i can with that, rick perry becomes the 10th officially declared republican candidate for president. Im abby huntsman. As we come on the air, the gop field get larger again. Jeb bush nearly making it official on twitter with an announcement of his announcement that will come a week from monday. Donald trump and bobby jindal both making announcement after that. Hard to believe, but the field is significantly larger than it was four years ago. I was partial to the tall guy the left there. Perry entered that race as an instant frontrunner. This time hes just hoping he makes it on to the debate stage. Here with us with a rare appearance at the table is friend of the show, Jonathan Allen allen, chief political correspondent. Good to have you in person. Especially on a big day like today. Its awesome to be here. I loved the just the ten of us reel. Too many cooks. So true. 50 for whove can name what show that was the spinoff of. Can you answer it . I cannot. Thanks for asking the question what it was . Im not sure. I think it was growing pains. Thats what i was thinking snoun. You dont know . No. Thats why you get 50 for the answer. My favorite show, growing pains. I will say talking about rick perry, he is probably the most likeable guy in the field. Hes the person you do want to have a beer with. Theres a lot you can say about rick perry. As we say in politics First Impressions are everything. Last go round, he was everyones favorite in the beginning. He then had bumps in the road including the oops moment. I asked eliminate that defined the way i asked him if that defined the way people think about him. I dont worry about whether or not someones going to look at what occurred two years ago and define me. Whats being defined now is the future of america. Here he is hoping to make it on the debate stage. The poll numbers are not looking great for him. Why do you think hes running . I think hes got a good story to tell. As my colleague, pat iglesias, wrote for fox, the story of texas and its economy under him as governor was one of booming one of people moving to texas, the economy doing great. If you could tell the story, its a good one to tell. I think it gives him a position in the republican party. Hes a tried and true conservative on social issues. And one whos proven against the measurement of other governors, republican governors running, that hes been able to manage a pretty big state economy. The control room is telling us that just the ten of us was a spinoff of growing pains. Look at that buddy. Awesome. My youth. The song thats been playing in my head all day is bad blood by taylor swift why wouldnt it be . Because auto because of all the days jeb bush could okd announce an announcement a thing now, is the day that rick perry announced hes running for president. That bad blood goes back. They have to be frustrated. They dont like each other much. For bush he gets to rain on rick perrys parade. In addition his announcements coming two days after Hillary Clinton does her big rally on Roosevelt Island in new york. I think it will steal a Little Thunder from that. Then Hillary Clinton, i imagine well see her on television after that. There will be competition june 15th for Media Attention and voter attention. Jeb has had a rocky role. Hes had trouble separated himself from others in the pack in terms of polling. Instant expected . At the beginning he said you have to be willing to lose the primary to be able to win the general i think it will be one of his strengths in a general election is if hes able to keep the positions and win the republican primary. Hes still doing well still in front of everybody else. Weve learned that hes not the candidate many expect. And bush may be a better candidate than we thought he was at the time. Hes got charisma. We should wait and hear what happens, jeb bush declared before it happened. Now everyones reassessing. Maybe he was never a frontrunner at all. Another candidate looking to get traction brand new is Lindsay Graham. I give him credit. He is being very clear and specific about what his alternative Foreign Policy would be. Its scary, but hes outlining it. Listen. People are very interested in about what i would do not just how much i think obama sucks. I would take more troops into iraq around 10,000 thicken the security forces, id have more trainers advise on, aviation about tall advisers aviation battalions, i would get turkey, egypt, and saudi arabia and say okay were going into syria. Were going to take isil down and get rid of assad. I would go after them and pull the caliphate up by its roots. Credit for honesty. Hes saying more troops in iraq as if we havent tried that and said were going to get everyone together and go into syria further than we already are. Your thoughts on the political hunger for that policy in the republican primary. I think theres a real divide. Youve got Lindsay Graham i think some others in the republican party. You go look at dick cheney right now talking about bringing back the policies of the administration. You have a hawkish bent there. On the other side is rand paul saying weve got to be careful about what we do in terms of foreign engagement, who doesnt like authoritarianism in terms of domestic spying by the nsa. Theres a fights that the party will have over what the sole is. Whether it is this party of engagement or one that goes back almost 100 years the more isolationist wing making a comeback i would quibble. I appreciate your analysis, youre definitely right about this split. I dont think not starting a new ground war in syria makes you isolationist. Im using stereotypical polls. Theres a wariness among republicans that there wasnt 10 or 12 years ago about war. I think Lindsay Graham is someone who has yet to meet a foreign engagement that he did not like. Thats a problem for him. And i think i would hope that if he had the chance to take it back he would not use the s word about the president. Indeed. I totally agree. Even if youre critical theres a certain level of respect that you have to show. Other side, hrc, at the historically black college near houston. And talking about expanding Voting Rights to a minimum of 20 days. An interesting suggestion. And this following her stance on mass incarceration make me say she understands that black voters are going to be a critical constituency, and that she has to reach out. She cannot take them for granted. Thats interesting. In 2007 in the senate she had a Voting Rights bill that would have done 50day window across the country for early voting. This is something consistent with her past. I think what youre seeing from Hillary Clinton now is her attempt to gather the democratic party. You see mass incarcerations, Voting Rights, expanding what the president s done on immigration. I think with the Roosevelt Island speech where shes talking about franklin roosevelt, there youve got the economic liberals of the democratic party. This is the gathering time. Shes trying to get ready for the big election get her ducks in a row. Thank you as always for being here. We appreciate it. We also want to shift gears to the foiled eded terror plots in boston. New details on who may have been among the aemged ed the alleged targets. Sarah, what can you tell us from boston . Reporter good afternoon. We now know that antimuslim activist Pamela Geller was the person Usaamah Rahim initially planned to target. Although authorities describe that as more just talk. More of a fantasy really. Instead on tuesday, rahim called dlafd david wright telling him he planned to go after the boys in blue referring to Law Enforcement in massachusetts, because it was the easiest target. He said he was going to go sclakz fbi agents took to mean that he was planning an attack a gee had on these Law Enforcement officers. Now david wright has been charged with encouraging rahim to destroy evidence specifically his cell phone. He advised him to not only delete information but be sure to smash the device as well. Wright appeared in court yesterday. In an interview after his arrest, he told Law Enforcement that he not only agreed with rahims plan but supported it as well. All of this laid out in court documents. Thard man has been questioned a third man has been questioned since tuesday by Law Enforcement. He participated in a conversation in person between rahim and wright last sunday on a beach in rhode island in inclimate weather. Hes not been charged with any crime. Meanwhile, rahims family is preparing to give a press conference in less than an hour outside the cvs store where he was shot and killed. They released a press release in advance of this urging calm in the Muslim Community and local community. Back to you. Thanks for that report. Coming up in the news cycle, more horrific headlines about the dead lead lion attack. A deadly lion attack. A start contrast between natures beauty and danger. The Discovery Channel bring a beautiful view from inside the animal kingdom. In sports the nbc finals tip off tonight. Pregame is here with espns dynamic duo of michael and jamel. Of course well spin about female viagra. Yeah. Hey, this is the cycle, where nothing is too taboo. 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We are learning new details this hour about that young woman killed in a lion attack while on a South African safari. 29yearold Katherine Chappell worked for a canadian production company. She did visual effects for the show game of thrones. She was originally from ryan, new york, outside of the city. She will be laid to rest there over the weekend. We have more from Stephanie Gosk on what weve learned from this tragic and horrifying incident. Reporter for 29yearold kate chappell, animal conservation was a passion. She hoped to make fame about the danger of poaching. On this trip she went by herself, leaving a boyfriend behind in vancouver. In an obituary her mother says everyone who met her loved her. She lived a life of adventure. She loved traveling. She was so much fun, always dwoik crack a joke. Quick to crack a joke. Reporter carmen met her at a special effects show in new york working together on scenes like these from the movie noah. Soon after she worked on the series game of thrones, winning an emmy. Youve got to be good to make it where she made it. Its true. She got to work at big places. Motion pictures, you dont get to just do that like, she was a talented girl. Reporter the lion park outside of johannesburg seemed an obvious stop for chappell. A chance to get close to the animals she loved. Despite park warnings chappells Tour Operator says she rolled down the window to take a picture. Australian Brandon Smith did the same thing in march. One of those things where you look around and you you think that youre in a safe spot to kind of quickly get that money shot. Reporter a lion attacked, jumping through the car window mauling his leg. In the last four months there have been three separate attacks in the same park. On wednesday, a director from a prominent animal Conservation Group said lion park is at least partly to blame. Lion park promotes petting and walking with wildlife. The impression is given that these animals are no longer wild but tame. The park promises an upclose and completely safe experience. But rules only work if they are followed. Thank you very much for that report. Incidents like this remind us that wild animals are, well, wild. A muchanticipated sixpart series premiering on discovery this weekend and n conjunction with the bbc proves that while the challenges arent the same as we humans face, life is a constant struggle. Theres a story that unites each of us with every animal on the planet. Its the story of the greatest of adventures the journey through life. For animals there is just one goal at the end of this journey to leave offspring. But this can be immensely difficult to achieve. Life story premieres saturday at 9 00 8 00 central on the Discovery Channel. Tom hugh jones is producer and director. Thank you very much for being with us. What an incredible film. Thank you very much. I have to say, the big takeaway as we were watching is how similar animals ranging from a whale to a spider are to humans. Whether it is the family bond or even sex. Yeah. All animals ourselves included are trying to achieve the ultimate goal, to raise the next generation. I guess for humans, its the exception not to make it that far. For animals, its generally the rule. You know the odds are against it incredible. Youre talking about mating success, critical for humans as well as animals. And its thrilling in your piece to see the lengths that animals will go to woo a mate. Well do whatever it takes to win a mate. Thats amazing footage. You see that and dont want to watch this, i dont know whats wrong with you. Tell us about how far animals will go to woo somebody. It fish insane. Incredible. Often some of the best new behaviors you find are a result of males desperately trying to get laid basically. Just like humans. Just like men. In nature the men have to do all the work. They have to be the showy ones they have to do all the displays. And that puffer fish was an extraordinary example. Hes building this sand castle under water to try and persuade a female to lay her eggs in the middle of it. She lays eggs in the middle . Yeah, and he has to stay and guard them. It is up to him to do most of the hard work. Amazing. I want to show more of the footage. You also follow a pride of lions. Lets look at that. All the lionesses have their own cubs who will be playplates and playmates and future allies. Under the females watchful eyes, she can prom tis her stalking, pouncing, and fighting skills. Theyre adorable super cute. Rolling around they look like big kittens. Then you explain that if their dad is displeased at the top of this pride the next male will come in and kill all of them and have new biebs not exactly like humans. A little more brutal. I think people assume because the lions are king of the beasts they have it easy. Actually, their society is incredibly bloody. A young lion cubs major problem is from other lions. Only about one in five make it to adulthood. One in five . Yeah. Wow. How did you get that you will footage . We spent a long time in the field. We went to 30 different countries. Probably spent at least two years out with different teams all over the world. Probably spending months at a time when you see a sequence at last for two or three minutes thats taken months to capture. Did you guys ever have a dangerous moment while you were filming . Yeah. We had quite a few dangerous moments. Trying to think of what the most i think the hard issue for the team is when they went to the congo jungle. The conditions were terrible. A member of the team got some serious illnesses, and theyre constantly battling against, you know parasites and that with animals attacking you or your team . I dont think anything us. As usual, the biggest dangers we faced were from people. Theres a lot of places we visit which kind of unsettle the moment. Well which type of animal hams it up the most for the l which animal hams it up for the camera the most . I think it was the puffer fish that you saw in the mating sequence. The red and yellow bird the display is great. Thank you very much. The Series Premieres saturday on discovery. Returning to dover delaware, the body of beau biden, a viewing this afternoon. The son of Vice President joe biden. Passed away at the he passed away at the age of 46 after a battle with brain cancer. President obama will deliver the eulogy saturday in wilmington. Your moms got your back. Your friends have your back. Your dogs definitely got your back. But whos got your back when you need legal help . We do. Were legalzoom, and over the last 10 years, weve helped millions of people protect their families and run their businesses. We have the right people onhand to answer your questions backed by a trusted network of attorneys. 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