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MSNBCW The Last Word January 16, 2013

House they want to apply for the president ial election in every state they can get away with it. We have a ban on the show talking about 2016. This is a corner stone, nobody is allowed to talk about the 2016 election, at least until next november. This is not about who the candidates will be, this is about whether or not they vote for a democratic candidate, any democratic candidate, this is about whether or not it results in us having a democratic president. This is going on in the states right now. Hey, beltway, wake up. Now it is time for the last word with lawrence odonnell. Have a great evening. The National Rifle association is singing to new lows in the polls. And new lows in their tactics against president obama. They are now using the president s daughters. Well, president obama trumped congress. The president is planning to take matters into his own hands when it comes to gun control. Im confident there are some steps we can take. 19 possible actions he can take. Im against having a king. President says if congress doesnt do what i want. Somebody who wants to bypass the constitution, that is somebody who wants to act like a king. The power to make laws starts in the house and senate. Congress didnt get anything done. There is myth around gun control in this country. Has it become the guns over people party . You have the extremists on talk radio . I am totally confused. You have extremist politicians. All of this comes as governors of delaware, new york and maryland. Some of the strictest laws in our nation on guns. Led by Governor Andrew Cuomo. The people in this state are crying out. I hope what Governor Cuomo did becomes a national motto. Im not letting anybody else take my guns. Why would you ever want to take away this mans guns. There is myth around gun control in this country. If anything real gets done about guns, it will be because of victims groups. Is president obama prepared to go it alone if Congress Wont crack down on guns . The National Rifle association has opened a new line of attack against president obama today. This time using his daughters. Are the president s kids more important than yours . Then why is he skeptical about putting Armed Security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their schools. Mr. Obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes, but he is just another elitest hypocrite when it comes to protection for their kids. The nra suffered a big loss in new york today with Governor Andrew Cuomo signing into law the toughest gun control legislation in the country, strengthening the states existing assault weapons ban. Going to put rules in place that actually protect innocent people in society. That is what the state of new york is doing today. And it says common sense can win. And good people can win. And you can actually get government to work and get good things to happen. You can overpower the extremists with intelligence and with reason and with common sense. The nra immediately released this statement. These gun control schemes have failed in the past and will have no impact on Public Safety and crime, sadly, the New York Legislature gave no consideration to that reality while lawmakers could have taken a step towards strengthening Mental Health reporting. Instead, they opted for stopping the rights of gun owners and they did it under a veil of secrecy. Sometimes they work after 5 00. I know, who would have thunk it . You know, politicians working after 5 00, and passing something substantial, they didnt just work in the dead of night and do something. They passed it in the senate and the house, as it were, in new york today. In the light of day. Exactly, in the light of day. And this is the way i hate to break it to the nra. They think that politics is supposed to work with nra lobbyists and it being pasted with the sort of pen that they give to the person, that is not the way it works this time. And one important thing that was done here is that we learn through this. There is a fake debate on line tonight, about what is an assault weapon anyway . What is it really . Rush limbaugh says there is no such thing. There is no such thing. You know what it is . It is whatever the controlling Government Authority says it is. Its whatever the government decides the assault weapons ban is, and in this case the state of new york decided what it is and decided to ban it. Lets listen to what Rush Limbaugh said about it. None of these proposals would have stopped the shooter in newtown, connecticut, there, no such thing as an assault weapon, that is a catchall term, there is no such thing, that is not an official category. If they could write their ticket, if they could, they would eliminate guns. And there are a whole host of reasons why, and safety is probably not in the top five. I say it in a nonthreatening way. The wet dream plan for eliminating guns in this country has been a plan that the left has had for years. And it has been sitting in a drawer, somewhere waiting to be pulled out at the appropriate time just Like Health Care was. Karen finney joining us from washington. Is this provision, which you cant have a magazine that holds more than seven bullets. And so that need to reload after seven bullets, if Jared Loughner had to do that in tucson, arizona, fewer people would have been shot and killed there. Right, and i think there is a provision if there is somebody in your home who has mental illness, you would have to have the gun locked up. Look, there are a number of provisions that Governor Cuomo and the legislature put in place, that is a model. The nra wouldnt like that, they have a different motto, the stand your ground laws. I think there are a lot of things i want to say two things, on this fake argument over the assault weapons ban, what is an assault weapon . I mean, i talked to somebody who is a special forces officer who is deploying to afghanistan. This is a guy in iraq, afghanistan, like knows a thing or two about this. And he said no, that is the kind of gun, a civilian version of the kind of gun we carry in war. You had general stanley mcchrystal, i think ill take their words over Rush Limbaugh and crazy people on line who dont actually know what theyre talking about. Now, joy reid to this very sick thing we saw in the nras ad as we saw when we opened this thing. The idea of comparing the life of president s children to other children, yes, they have armed guards around them called the secret service. And yes, they also fly without building passes. And your children dont get to fly without boarding passes. There are a lot of differences in the lives of president s children than for our children. And for the nra to drag them into this and compare their secret Service Protection to what the nra says we should have in schools is the most ugly and profoundly stupidest thing i have heard the nra say. Yeah, it is amazing, somebody tweeted tonight, you realize were losing this debate because of things like that. The reason we have such strict protection for the president s families, is unfortunately we had too many times in our history, people assassinating president s in our country. After president kennedy was killed after somebody who had ordered a gun through the mail. And Martin Luther king jr. , by somebody who got their gun the same way. In 1968, in terms of robert f. Kennedy being killed, we passed the 1968 gun control act, which up to that point was the strictest gun control we had had. One thing it did was restrict getting it through the mail. When they say things like you have to protect guns in your home against somebody mentally ill, that is an incentive to do the sane and obvious thing, and restrictions on gun dealers, not to sell ammunition over the internet, the way that the shooter in aurora bought their ammunition. So by their logic, right, i mean, it is really disgusting. So by their logic, are they saying schools are also drugfree zones, so basically we should let junkies come up and shoot up in the school yard . If we get through gunfree zones, drugfree the logic is ridiculous. It shows theyre losing support, all the polls show it within their movement, outside their movement, and they know it is a death knell to fight this, the parents, the victims, the people who survived this gun violence are coming out saying enough is enough. Because once you put a face to it and you put some real teeth in these laws it will be very hard for them to throw the president s children, my goodness, out there in the way to get something done. Well, joy, i think you may have just gotten through to the nra, in my other ear, nikki eagan in the control room says that the nra has taken the ad off of their website. The one in which theyre using the two daughters, trying to say the way their lives are managed by the secret service is a lesson in how to manage our children. They have finally taken a step back. That is the sanest thing they have done in this whole debate. Ill say quickly, somebody treated me the story of little noah pozner, who was the youngest child in the shooting at sandy hook elementary school. And the discussion of the casket, her sweet little boy from the you know here up had his long eyelashes and his bundle of dark hair, but below the nose his face was blown completely off. That is how she had to view the body of her little boy. And she wanted not to just sweep under the rug the idea of a shooting, which sounds so benign, and so binal, and have the horror of what was done to her little boy to be visible. So if were going to talk about the children, lets talk about the children at sandy hook who were slaughtered. And were trying to stop that. That is why this law is trying to be passed. Joy reid, karen finney. Thank you for joining us. Coming up, an Arizona Republican has had enough of his party and he is leaving it. The Tipping Point . Guns, he will join me. And another great myth that president obama can party his way to agreement with republicans. Just have a beer or two. And in the rewrite tonight, another episode of crazy things republicans say about guns, which very conveniently will give us the opportunity to quote what one republican said about pornography. I am pink and i am a covergirl. Nothing. 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Last tuesday marked two years since the tucson shooting that took the lives of six people and injured another 13, including former congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords. On the anniversary, republican tucson city councilman steve kozachik, known in tucson as steve k. , organized a gun guyback that allowed residents to turn in the unwanted weapons to the police department, in exchange for safeway gift cards, the Grocery Store chain that was the scene of the giffords shooting. They collected and destroyed more than 200 guns in that drive. But not without opposition. The National Rifle association, of course, opposed the buy back and told npr that it will work with the Arizona State legislature to rewrite the law in order to make it illegal to destroy firearms in buybacks. And one republican state senator even held his own gun buyback on the same day as steve k. Instead of destroying the guns, he and other gun rights advocates added them to their collections. Just days after, he wrote this. The Arizona Republican party is an idealogical outliar, i see nothing showing that it is inclined to move anything but further away from the values of this community. I will, therefore, be changing my Party Register to democrat. Joining me now, the rather than turned democrat, tucson city councilman steve k. Thank you for joining us. Thank you very much for invitation, appreciate it. Steve, i have seen politicians at different times change party. It is a rare occurrence. And in my experience, it is usually an accumulation of issues. It tends not to be a single issue. Was it this single issue for you. No, if you follow the legislature, it has been one thing after another with the state legislature. We have embarrassing immigration laws over the last few years, sb1070, we have amazingly insensitive laws with womens rights. The whole issue of gender identity crowd that the leader u continues to take aim at. And the Tipping Point was, quite frankly, the over the top reaction which was completely a reaction to the buy back i held last week. And steve, youre a republican, a gun owner. When this horrible event happened in tucson two years ago with Gabrielle Giffords being gunned down and the others killed, did that change your view about gun policy . Well, i think it changed the whole communitys out look, and not just tucson, but we can talk about columbine or aurora or connecticut. Any communities who have gone through these horrific massacres have to take a step back and really assess what were doing as a community and as a nation with respect to gun laws. And you mentioned in the intro, the gun buyback and the counter rally that took place. And i have to tell you, the people who stood 50 feet away from two dozen cops who were conducting the buyback that i had sanctioned, they were standing out there with cash for guns signs, effectively, these are guys who evidently consider the proper disposal of a firearm to be tantamount to the desecration of a holy icon. They couldnt have made the point better that if i can walk up to you on a street corner, give you money, walk away with a firearm without knowing anything about my psychological background or criminal history that just screams for some sort of change in the law. They made the point better than i could have, just by acting out the way they did. Steve, support for the nra is sinking. The Washington Post shows only 40 have a favorable view of the nra, 44 an unfavorable view. Are the politics changing in arizona, or at least in tucson . Well, they have to change, lawrence, and the reason for that is when we cant even address in a rational manner the need for background checks on a person to person transfer, when we cant even have that kind of a rational conversation then we really have to reassess where we are in terms of the whole national ethos, lets talk about oversized magazines. In the first section you had, somebody mentioned Jared Loughner who injured six people and injured 13 more in this community. If he had been limited to a fiveround magazine, the whole dynamics would have changed. He was tackled and stopped when he had to change magazines. If we cant have a rational conversation about armor piercing bullets, if youre hunting alligators, the only reason you need to have those if youre going to shoot a cop. We have to get to the point where we can have a rational conversation about this. Background checks, oversize magazines. It was a completely benign event, the voluntary giving up of a weapon that you no longer wish in your home. We continued the conversation, gave people the chance to get guns out of their homes and these guys made a point we have to get our arms around background checks on person to person transfers. Steve, thank you for joining us tonight. You bet, thank you for the invitation. Coming up, president obama may just force the republicans to come to their senses about the debt ceiling. And in the rewrite tonight, the idiotic things republicans are saying about guns, and why president reagan and president george w. Bush would disagree with them. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. Omnipotent of opportunity. You know how to mix business. With business. And you. Rent from national. Because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle. And go. You can even take a fullsize or above. And still pay the midsize price. I could get used to this. 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