Transcripts For MSNBCW The Rachel Maddow Show 20141025 : vim

Transcripts For MSNBCW The Rachel Maddow Show 20141025

Its color to another part of south america, french guyana. What neither of those countries has anything to do with is africa. Africa. Whole different continent. Africa, western africa, is where the nation of guinea is. Guinea is one of the countries where ebola is now an epidemic. So to be clear, guinea is in africa. Guyana is in south america. Armed with that knowledge, go, congress, go. Beginning in march, 2014, in the west african nation of guyana, the world first learned about, yet, another new outbreak of the ebola virus. Republican congressman daryl isa telling the world today that ebola started in a nation called guyana, which is a nation in south america which has nothing to but, at least in that sentence, he did get the word ebola right. Yesterdays news was a doctor in new york city tested positive for eboli, and this is particular hi distressing. Cdc declared that a nurse who became infected with eboli must have contact contracted it. The news of that medical doctor returning from the news that a medical doctor returning from guyana now has tested positive to foster the development of eboli treatments. President obamas treatment, a wrong claim, to serve as the eboli czar. Sadly, in my opinion. Gh oh, yes, give us more of your opinion, your well informed on the one hand, who cares that a member of congress thinks that e. Coli and ebola may be ma maybe the same thing. Who cares if some guy who rums a car Alarm Company has absolutely no idea what he is talking about when it comes to a disease diagnosed in two cities, kpept, that same person also runs the congress and now decides that it ought to be doing oversight hearings on eboli, ecola, cocacola, shinola, whatever. And important to our nations understands of the ricolla, the canoli, the email, whatever you call it. Okay. So when the head of the cdc says you cant get it with somebody own the bus next to you, thats just not true. No, actually you cant get ebola on the bus, daryl isa. Or on the sub way. Thiss new york city mayor riding the subway in new york city to show everybody that its safe to ride the subway. Theres new york governor doing the same thing. These are not guys you usually see on the subway. But theyre doing these subway rides today to show that its safe. Theyre doing this to counter any worry about any news that the doctor spiked a fever yesterday morning was diagnose nosed with ebola last night. The message is that, yes, new york city has its first patient, but its okay. Its okay to take the subway. It is okay to take the bus. That doctor went Bole E Bowling on wednesday night before he got sick. Its okay to go bowling at that bowling alley. Its okay to go bowling even at other bowling al heels. Even ones in other cities or states. Even in south america, do they bowl in south america . Its okay to drink coffee from places that dr. Craig spencer got coffee before he got sick. Its okay to eat at the places where the doctor ate before he got sick. These are pictures of our staff dinner tonight, which we ordered from the meat ball shop, which is a delicious new york city joint that dr. Spencer before he got sick. Its not the first time we ordered from that meat ball shop, but it was delicious. And its okay. Its all going to be okay. Dr. Craig spencer is in isolation at bellevue hopt in new york where hes being treated for his illness. Weve got two very different tracks. Two opposite responses to ebola as a nation. Whenl we think back on this time as a country, days hence, right . When we look back only this time, when books are written about this, and they will be. About this as a challenge and a Health Crisis and a moment that called for leadership in this nation. Its almost impossible to believe. But that historical record is going to have to show that there has been a huge partisan divide in the response. A sharply divergent distant. This real hi is turning out to be the republican response. You can get ebola sitting next to someone on a bus. No, you cant. Daryl isa today u right . Who cant tell guinea from guyana. Or eboli than ebola. But he knows better than any doctor. Dont take the bus, america. Daryl guyana leading the charge in congress. It peter king telling the long island talk radio, its time for the doctors to realize that they were wrong. He, peter king, has determined that ebola has mule tatatez as virus to become an airborne disease. Its airborne. You probably have it if youve been out in the air, people. Wake up. Its one thing you have people in positions of power who have no idea what theyre talking about, nevertheless using their positions of power trying to let everybody that they know and the authorities dont to try to freak people out as much as possible and deliberately undermine peoples confidence in health authorities. Encouraging as much panic as possible with made up disnfrgs. So thats one model for how to lead in response to a crisis. That really is what theyre doing. Thats rand paul saying hey, trust me. Youre going to get this thing at a cocktail party. Dont go to cocktail parties. Thats peter kane saying the doctors are wrong. The doctors are wrong. And he, peter king, is right because he looked up the word mutat trk mutated this morning. And against that, against whatever storm surge of panic can be general rated by that tide of nonsense against that, theres the brooklyn burro president. Thiss the mayor of new york city and the governor of the state riding the subway saying its okay. At the nih today, nurse nin nina fomm was declared cured, free of the disease. And i think, in part, theyre doing that because they do real hi seem to like her. But theyre also doing it on purpose. To show that she is safe. Its okay. [ applause ]. Good afternoon. I feel fortunate and bheszed to be standing here today. Although i no honger ha erno lo, it may be a while before i have my strength be. So i ask for my privacy and my familys privacy to be respected as i return to texas and try to get back to a normal life and reunited with my dog, benthy. Thank you, everyone. Thank you all very much. We appreciate you being here. How much are you going to miss nina . Im going to miss nina a lot. I gave her my cell phone number just in case i get lonely. After nina fomm was release from care, she then went to the white house, to the oval office and met oneonone with president obama. And president obama likes her as much as to beny faucci does. Buzz it was dhib rat. Its to show that it was okay. Not only is she cured from ebola, by virtue of having recovered from it, shes immune from it. At least for some time. So this are two ways to respond to this. Its amazing that those two ways are to divergent. That thisseres a propanic response. Its true. Choose one, i guess. 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He and new jersey governor joinlyjoin jointly announced mandatory quarantines for any Health Worker returning from west africa who had contact with ebola patients while abroad. Thats a new policy announced this evening. This was earlier tonight at University Hospital in newark, nmg nj. The person in the balancambulan were told, is a Doctors Without Borders staff person who arrived at newark today. She had been involved with treatment of patients in west africa. This staff worker had no symptoms when she flew in, but the new Jersey Department of health put her under a 21 day quarantine. This evening, were today, that worker did develop a fever and is now in isolation. It is not yet clear if the new york and new jersey region has its second patient in two days. That may be the case. If it is the case, both of these people will have been in sharyl circumstances once they game home. Joining us now is the director of the National Center for disaster preparedness. Thanks for being with us. The 21day quarantine announcement today. This is nk new jersey and new y specific. It goes beyond what theyre doing in other states and beyond cdc recommendations at this point. Is it a smart move . Does it make sense to you . Gh i certainly understand the public pressure to do this. This is an evolving process. The policies are changing, as we speak. And the reason is that as we learn more, as were trying to appreciate what the actual risks are, the policy is evolving. We have to be care 68, though, if we go too far in making people alarmed, then were increasing the amount of screening and the amournt of quarantine. This is a downside to this is e in which it can discourage people from wanting to go and volunteer at the most important thing that we can do which is to treat the ebola at its e its source in west africa. Youre saying by making it essentially so inkreent upon return from home for american Health Workers to go participate in that, you may discourage people . Gh yeah, these are extraordinary procedures by doctors and nurses saying theyre going to go and help out with this pretty dangerous disease in africa. Theyre trying to make this decision that the person says im going to go for four weeks or algts weeks, but now im finding out that i have to be quarantined. When i get back, it could tilt the decision to go in the first place in the wrong direction of providing services in those thee countries in africa. Theres a downside to all of those policies. But on the other hand, what im hoping for is that we keep focused on the science and not go above and beyond what makes sense from a rational Public Health point of view and scientific point of view. Were in a spectrum here. So on the onened e end, were dealing with policies and protocols derived from the science. And on the other hand, its an abundance of caution where were sort of bowing to public pressure. And we have to find that balance. This is what i think the policymakers are are struggling with. Where is the right balance between the science only and giving, you know, some credence to the fact that people are nervous about it. If we go too far, as i said, it becomes a discouragementedme tot people need to do. Gh is there a response consequence to having political leaders say things like dont take the bus, youre going to get it at a cocktail party. Dont believe what the cdc tells you. The doctors dont know anything. Dont believe the authorities. Its a little horrifying when politicians are saying things that are actual hi literally contrary to the scientific information. Yeah. And that does no good what so ever, except cause a lot of chaos. We understand its the Midterm Election season. We understand all of that. We understand people may not understand anything about this. But if youre a political leader, it really better to stick to things that the Scientists Say are true. And one of the things thats actually been impressive about the process of new york has been an extraordinary amount of focus on the science and having developed policy and protocols from that science. So this is what were sort of babbling here. People are nervous and anxious. We shouldnt make statements that will make them more anxious, especially when theyre not true. Doctor, whos been an advisor to the mayor on this. Thank you. All right. Busy friday night in the news. Lots ahead, including, as i mentioned earlier, something im sure is doomed technical failure. As far as i can see, were never the less going to try to pull off live here on the show. Lots ahead. Stay with us. Transferred money from his before larry instantly bank of america savings account to his merrill edge retirement account. Before he opened his first hot chocolate stand calling winter an underserved season. And before he quit his friends leafraking business for not offering a 401k. Larry knew the importance of preparing for retirement. Thats why when the time came he counted on merrill edge to streamline his investing and help him plan for the road ahead. Thats the power of streamlined connections. Thats merrill edge and bank of america. This is a place called cafe racer. Its an espresso bar where thiss hosts and live music. On may 12th, at around 11 00 a. M. , a 40yearold walked into cafe racer and started shooting. He was armed with two pistols. He shot one victim near the door in the back of the head and then moved into the bar area shooting another group of patrons. Two of those died at the scene, two more were pronounced dead at a local hospital. Two more ned the scene and about a half an hour later, shot and killed a 52yearold woman in a parking lot while attempting to carjack her suv. Local schools were put on lockdown. Eventually, after Police Closed in on the suspected, he shot and killed himself. It was may 2012 in seattle, six people dead, including the shooter. Two years later, in june of this year, the 26yearold man walked on to the campus of seattle, a small christian school, he entered a science and Engineering Building and managed to shoot three people. He killed one of them before he was tackled while he was trying to reload. They held the shooter down until police could arrive at the scene and later said that he was held bent on killing a lot of people. Those Mass Shootings in the seattle area followed other shootings in recent years. An 08 shooting left six people dead, four Police Officers were shot and killed in 2009. Then, today, it happened again. This time, the scene was a high school. In a suburb north of seattle at around 10 30 this morning, a freshman armed with whats been described as a pistol, started shooting inside the schools cafeteria. Students who were with him remained calm the whole time. The students who were shot were sitting with the gunman at the time. He was just quite. He was sitting there. Everyone was talking. All of the sudden, i see him stand up, pull something out of his pocket. At first, i thought it was someone making a really loud noise, with, like a big, loud pop until i heard four more after that. And then i saw thee kids just fall from the table like they were falling to the ground dead. I jumped under the table as fast as i could. When it stopped, i looked back up. I saw he was trying to reload his gun and i just ran in the opposite direction and got out of this as fast as i could. They say tonight that a total of six people were shot at this Washington State high school today including the gunman who died at the scene of a selfinflected wound. So he killed himself at e and shot five others. One female student has been pronounced dead. Four other students were rushed to local students. Its a sign of just how common shootings like this have come. Not just across the country but in the seattle area specifically. We are ready to handle these cases. We are a level two trauma center. Weve had a very good response from our medical staff. About 25 doctors showed up. We had two neurosurgeons on the scene. We had a heart surgeon, a chest surgeon as well as multiple trauma surgeons. Can you talk a little bit about any kind of planning or drills you had at this school that shed some light to how you prepare for a horrible day like this. Yeah, we have done training at the school. Its with our s. W. A. T. Team. I cannot say exactly when that took place or when the last time that took place. The police had done training for this at that school. The local hospital had been conducting drills for a shooting just like this. Tonight, marysville had just that happen. Hopt Officials Say tonight that of the four students rushed to the hospital after todays shooding, three of the four are in critical condition. One is in serious condition. 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