They were able to basically, for a lot of us, replace the terrible images we were fed by isis of the way he was killed. We were able to replace those with his descriptions of how he behaved among his fellow hostages while they were in captivity. One french journalist that was held alongside him, he specifically spoke very movingly in public after james foley died. He talked in some detail about how generous he had been with his fellow captors while in captivity in the terrible circumstances in which they were held. We spent seven months in a very extreme situation together, including for one week, we were handcuffed, one to the other day and night. In circumstances where youre held captive, you come up with some kind of survival instincts meaning that for instance, are you try to grab everything you can find. And james was the total opposite. Basically everything he could share, he would share it. If we were missing blanks, he would share, if we were starving and missing food, he would share his ration. That is a french journalist who was held hostage for ten months. Seven of the ten months was with james foley. Nicholas hanine and others were released. They got out last spring. So when steven and james were killed afterwards, the french journalists were able to describe their captivity, their sacrifice, and the kind of men they had been in those circumstances. But nicholas was also able to describe to Law Enforcement and the public something very specific about how they were held hostage and by whom. In may of last year, a man took an Assault Rifle and a handgun in a museum. He killed four people. He got away, evade a man hunt for a week. When Police Published the name of the man who carried out, allegedly carried out the museum attack, when they published his name and photograph, nicholas hanine recognized him. He said it was one of the men that held him and the other journalist captive in syria. And that he took delight in torturing and beating prisoners being held by isis. He said that he punched me in the face, and then showed off his gloves. He said i bought these gloves just for you, to punch you in the face, did you like them . That sums up the violent personality of him which i frequently saw. That was according to that french reporter. Other reports indicate that all four journalists released from captivity, they all singled out is this guy as one of the people who held him captive and tortured him before he apparently left syria. So he left there, so he could travel back to europe and use his european passport to travel freely to attack that museum and very nearly get away after. The guy named by the french hostages, picked up by police six days after the assault on the museum, he is now in french custody. Belgium is a small country. The population is about the same as the state of ohio. In europe, it is smaller than countries like the netherlands or poland. But on a per capita basis, more people have gone to syria to fight with isi is from belgium than any other european country. Theyre not a country with a large absolute population. When you look on a per capita basis, it is a big deal. This week in belgium, they were do to get a verdict in the largest ever trial of islamic militants. They put 46 people on trial for running a jihadist ring. The verdict in that big case was due to be handed down for those 46 defendants this week. They say they are now going to release that verdict next month. Today, belgium announce a special Terrorism Court approved ten search warrants for raids across that country today. When they were serving them, one or more of the people in the place where they were raiding open firing on the police with automatic weapons. Two suspects were killed and one person take into custody. The raid today, the announce want by police of what happened, came on the meals of other reports from belgium last night that a man turned himself in with the conjunction of the press attacks. A man turned himself in and told police that he provided the weapons and guns used in the Charlie Hebdo in paris, and the policewoman in the kosher market. Those are press reports, theyre not being directly confirmed by Belgium Police. This was publiced today, the array of weapons found at the apartment of the terrorist who mounted the super market attack and killed the French Policewoman last week. Belgium police are not confirms that they definitely came from the belgium arms deal near turned himself in yesterday, and there is no link between that guy turning himself in yesterday and the raids today that resulted in the shoot out, and the arrest. But Belgium Police are saying what they believe they just disrupted today was an imminent terrorist attack. They believe it was an attack in keeping with the type of attack mounting in france. They say specifically they believe it was targeted against police in belgium. They say they broke up that plot. Specifically, Belgium Police today went out of their way to say that the suspects plot they believe they disrupted including citizens that went to syria to train with isis before returning to belgium. This is the news now, right . This is kind of how it goes. This is what its like in the fight against isis and International Islamic terrorism. Today one arrest and two dead in a shootout with police in belgium. Presumably the other nine or so search warrants still being carried out in that country. In germany today, Police Announce an arrest of a 26yearold german citizen that they say fought and trained with isis last year. In spain today, importants say they tracked coulibaly into spain before the paris attacks. His wife or partner went to france, went to turkey, and syria. Spain says now that he was with her for part of that journey. That he drove here into spain before he turned around and went back to france to carry out his attacks. Spanish police say theyre working intensely to find out who else he talked to in madrid and any contacts he might have had in spain immediately before the Charlie Hebdo massacre. This is the world were in now. Individual man hunts, search warrants, one or two arrests here and there. But this man hunt for the outstanding suspect in france, that man hunt for her leads right back to syria. The arrest in germany, he just returned from syria. The belgium Authorities Say that the suspects just came back from syria. The released hostages say the perpetrator of that attack was a captor with isis in syria. Syria is a open wound at this point spewing out into the world these trained, motivated terrorists. And in multiple countries tonight, terrorism suspects. But recognizing that fact about syria does not describe a specific thing to stop that about syria. Its true it doesnt tell you how to end it, right . If there was an easy thing to do to fix it, it would have been done by now. But the predictions about the civil war in syria, becoming a viral engine that would turn out trained, motivated terrorists for the world, trained motivated terrorists who would then wreak havoc in their ohm countries nap is where we are. A quiet backdrop to this loud news about terrorism today. The search warrants, the trials, the very quiet backdrop, there is headlines in the International Section of your National Next of your newspaper. Isis in syria expanded the amount of territory it controls. There has been 800 air strikes in syria alone in the last several months. 800 air strikes have not slowed them down in personals of controlling territory or continuing to gain more. And them controlling territory in syria has significant implications for syria, what happens to is that government, that country, in that civil war. But them controlling territory in syria has significant implications apparently for belgium and germany, and france, and us, presumably. There is basically to debate about the type of millation action that theyre taking against isis right now whether that is a good way to fight is s, a bad way, productive, counter productive, an effective use of resources, or Something Else that can be done with the resources demoted. This is not a discussion in american plucks. Republicans and democrats dont talk about that not amongst themselves or when theyre fighting with each other. Our country does not produce discourse about National Security except for name calling and criticizing words uses right after something happens. As the politicians fail in that regard, if we, as citizens are not content to just keep our heads in the sand, pretend its not happening or relevant because there is no par isnt a fighting about it and it will not get American Press attention. If we want to be smart about the threats we face, and what we should be debating even though our politicians wont, then its worth asking. How much of isiss ability is tied to their strength at home in syria . How long is syria going to the stay the key connection between terrorist attacks and isis. What is the menu of options available between syria and the rest of the world. Joining us now is richard engle. Nice to see you. Absolutely. I want to ask you, first, about some late breaking reports tonight. Reports from French Police that theyre actively looking for another potential accomplice. French police saying someone dropped him off at a Kosher Grocery store he attacked. Dropped him off and left. Do you know anything about that reporting . I know the french sports long believed that he had at least another accomplice that was with him at the time of the attack and after the attack. Someone that filmed his video, his last testimonial. They were clearly looking for his wife, and we have been struggling with this term wife, common law wife, it appears they were married in an islamic ceremony, but never got an official french ceremony which is the only one recognized in paris, so i leave it up to you, wife, common law wife, but that was the relationship. French authorities believe there may be another suspect. They are also investigating the lingt to the arms dealer in belgium. They dont think it was a coincidence that he turned himself in. Apparently he knew that he sold the weapons to jihadists, but says he didnt think they were that bad. That they would carry out this kind of spectacular activity attack in paris and do something so disgusting. When he saw that his weapons had been used and that Counter Terrorism raids were coming, and they had been lethal thus far, he turned himself in and decided to cooperate. Richard, it is i dont know if that counts as a remorseful arms dealer, or an arms dealer afraid of being raided. Being shot as the police come through his house yeah, we cant parse that from here, but we do we know if there is a connection between him coming forward and this new round of raids in belgium. There is one that is very dramatic, but it seems like they search warrants to do alose loss across that country today. I dont think know at this teenage, we dont know if the arms dealer coming forward and the raids are related, but perhaps its more than a coincidence. We know that the french authorities are looking into it, that if he sold weapons and they were passed on. And they are Assault Rifles, a rocket launcher, and he turns himself in in belgium, there may be a connection. One more question for you on the syria connection. Police say there is a syrian connection with the two people they killed today, the person they agencied. Ger nan police say there is a connection with the person they arrested today. Is any of this emerging activity and these arrests and this targeting going to change anything the way that syria functions as an International Problem and the way that the west deals with them and the traffic in and out of the country . It might make a small impact. It might make an impact for the actors already in europe. Syria is an enormous black hole and that is not changing any time soon. The war on isis, they are still finding a home there because of the civil war in syria that is still going on. Because the civil war in iraq is still going on. There is fundamental differences and isis managed to plant itself on this rnls fault line that goes all of the way back to the iraq war. It started as al qaeda and iraq, and they found a home in syria when syria imploded three to threeandahalf years ago. The European Security officials are taking a wake up call after paris and it will help their ability to deal with the militants already in their towns and villages. This is not just an issue as you saw today of the militants being in paris or berlin, theyre in what you would think of as small, quaint little opportunity tos where you would get nice chocolate and beer. These are not the kinds of places you would think of a safe haven for terrorists. And as long as syria is unaddressed, i think theyre yo still going to see extremists attracted to it or inspired by it and that will be a problem that these european Law Enforcement officials and u. S. Officials will have to deal with because theyre not just going to have to fight the ones that are already back. There is a throw of people back and forth, physically and a flow of ideas. 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