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Transcripts For MSNBCW The Reid Report 20140819

Protesters chucking rocks at us. We are telling the true story. People are angry, man. Theyre really angry. And chris, obviously a lot of anger out there. Did you get a sense of what people are angry specifically at the media over . You could hear people yelling tell the true story. What are people, in your view, angry about . Is so people, i think, have gotten all sides of this conflict have gotten angrier at the media as time has gone on. I think the police are furious at the media because they feel like the Media Presence is inciting the worst elements. They feel like the media is giving them a hard time. Frankly, they dont like people recording them while theyre doing their job all the time. And i think some of the protesters are angry at the media because they feel like the story isnt being told. I think some of the protesters feel like people are too uncritically accepting the polices line. I think also theres just this sense that no amount of story telling by the media can properly express peoples feeling of just complete impotent rage at the fact its nine days in and the person that shot and killed Michael Brown is on administrative leave. Michael brown is going his body has just completed its third autopsy. There are no charges filed. It just seems more and more outrageous as the days go by. And the mood here is tense. Its not its a bad scene down here. It just is. I think when i first came down here, it didnt have the kind of toxicity in the air it feels like it has right now. Everything seems locked in this cycle. But people are angry because fundamentally they feel that justice hasnt been done. And that anger is kind of directed in all sorts of different directions. You know, chris, when i watch and im watching this, im watching you every night. Youre Walking Around the streets, trying to tell this story, and youre showing a lot of the town, the city. You know whats weird for me . I dont see the presence, and what i guess im used to having lived in big cities. Where is the mayor . It feels almost like complete uncontrolled chaos. Am i just getting a sense maybe because of the limited view i have here in new york . Yeah, i would say theres sort of two truths here. One is that i could get in the car from here and in five minutes be at a Craft Brewery and a beautiful little park by the water. You could go, you know, ten minutes up that way and youre just in side streets. Folks are just in small singlefamily homes and barbecuing on the weekends. The idea that this looks like ukraine or whatever, we are talking about a fourblock stretch of ferguson at this point. So thats a sort of appropriate and important context. In terms of the mayor being awol, yes, 100 . A guy by the name of James Knowles iii. Ive been trying to get in contact with him and book him for the show. Given the fact hes the mayor of what is now the most famous or infamous suburb of america at this point, after eight days of this, you would think you would hear from him. Its striking to me that there has been all of the representations of local authorities have been Law Enforcement. The mayor hasnt been out there. The county prosecutor. Charlie duley has been out there. But hes a lame duck. It is very strange. That vacuum of power has been very evident. Stay safe, man. Thank you for all the great reporting. Be sure to watch more of chris hayes and his live coverage from ferguson tonight on all in at 8 00 p. M. Eastern here on msnbc. One of the questions surrounding the response to the Police Shooting of unarmed teen Michael Brown has been, as we just asked, where is the mayor . Well, he did appear on this network a few hours ago. This is just a little bit of what he had to say. Theres not a racial divide in the city of ferguson. According to who . Is that your perspective, or do you believe thats the perspective of africanamericans in your community . That is the perspective of all residents in our city, absolutely. The vast majority of my community, and i now put that number in the 95th percentile, is absolutely supportive of what weve been doing and what were going to do going forward. Maria nadal is a Missouri State senator who represents ferguson. She was one of the residents tear gassed while peacefully protesting last week. Thank you so much for being here. Ive been watching your appearances on this network and have been astounded by the real frankness youve been able to bring to the conversation. Did you i dont know if you had a chance to hear what the mayor of ferguson just said. He said theres no racial divide in ferguson. He says the majority of people in ferguson are quite happy with what the leadership has done. Would you agree with those assessments . I would not agree with that. And i would tell you that ive been on the ground since day one, and ive been with all of my constituents, listening to their frustrations. Mostly the frustrations of young people who feel as though they are Michael Brown. Just being at the wrong place, wrong time, and it could have been them. So everyone that im hearing, they feel as though there is almost a pressure against them. They are feeling as if theyre being silenced. When weve been tear gassed on several occasions, they feel as though their First Amendment right has been taken away from them. I had a man yesterday literally who was crying in my arms, and i was holding him for a very long time because he wanted to exercise one of the greatest guarantees that we have in this nation, which is the First Amendment. And he didnt want that to be taken away from him. He wanted to express himself in the very basic way that everyone is guaranteed. And state senator, you know, just in watching this from here, from here in new york and watching whats going on, ive seen you. Ive seen state senator antonio french. Ive seen claire mccaskill. Ive seen a few leaders. But do you also have that sense that the city leadership itself is absent . That the mayor is not visible . And what do you how do you explain disconnect between the elected leadership in ferguson, which is entirely white, and this population, which is majority africanamerican . Well, i will tell you, there is one africanamerican whos elected to city council who has been at the ground level. Hes been speaking with the same constituents as what i have. And i will tell you there are two worlds. Its a tale of two cities, frankly. You have the mostly White Community and the black community. And there are a lot of people who like to speak in terms of everything is fine, this is just one of the few incidences we have. But this has been a long time brewing. And there are a lot of people in this community who have been abused, who have been intimidated, who have been forced to do things that they dont want to do. A great example is a sixmonth pregnant woman who was gassed the same day i was. She was forced face down to the ground. The Police Officer said, get down, face down, on the ground. Shes six months pregnant. And thats the way basically my community has been treated, not just in the last 11 days, but for quite a long time. And so i have young people who are willing to give up their lives, joy. Theyre saying to themselves and to me and others, you know, its amazing im even living to 21 years old. I dont give i cant say that, but they dont give a lot of credence to the life that they could have, and theyre willing to give up their lives for justice. Im trying to redirect that energy into a very positive way. I want my constituents to be able to go to City Council Meetings and demand justice in different ways. We just need to change how things are being done. We need to make sure that the Police Department is reflective of what this Community Looks like. We need to be honest, most of all. Theres a perception that people like to portray, which is not reality. And we have to demand the truth. We have to demand that everything that is going on comes to light. And i dont think that this community is going to stop fighting or stop protesting until they see transparency. And they havent gotten that quite yet. Theyre just not happy with the chief of police as well as the mayor in many circumstances. The mayor has been hes been out. Hes a friend of mine. But theres some things i just dont disagree with the way hes operated. But he is a friend. And the only thing that i can press upon him as well as other leaders who have been absent at ground zero is come listen to the people, come listen to the victims, come listen to the hundreds of people who call themselves Michael Brown. Again, at any given time, they can also be Michael Brown. So thats what i implore them to do. This is ground zero. And its pretty devastating to this community right now, to have this negative light. Yeah, indeed. You know, theres so much more i want to talk with you about. Hopefully you will come back. Thank you very much. Thank you, joy. All right. As weve been reporting, last nights chaos resulted in nearly 80 arrests along with injuries to four Police Officers. While a small number of people face more serious charges of unlawful use of a weapon and interfering with an officer, most of last nights arrestees were charged with refusal to disperse and were released from jail this morning. Its bad out there. I mean, the cops just theyre out of control. Theyre treating us like were nobody. Were just out there trying to support the cause. And while many of the people arrested last night say the police are overreacting, Officials Say there is a contingent of protesters showing up every night and deliberately creating havoc. Theres also a number of Community Members who are trying to keep the peace and organization the real protests. Anthony ellis is one of them. He lives in the ferguson area. Anthony, thank you for being here. Hi. How are you . Im very well. Thank you. I really appreciate being able to talk with you. Tell us, as youre organizing these protests, what are the demands . What is it that protesters like yourself, the people who are marching day in and day out in ferguson, what do you want to see happen . We basically want to see that Darren Wilson be brought to justice. We want to the see the constituents and the leaders of ferguson to come out and speak to the people and let them know whats going on instead of just keeping everything hushhush from the community. Do you feel like the mayor of ferguson has been visible . Have you seen him out on the street . Ive seen the mayor in a press interview. Thats about it. The mayor has not been on this side of ferguson, compared to the other side of ferguson. And lets talk about cap pain ron johnson. He obviously has become a central figure for a lot of people, particularly media, but also there on the ground. Do you get the sense that he is controlling events on the ground in that town . I commend captain johnson for the things hes doing, because hes worked with me ever since the first night he came on duty. Hes helped me get people back without being any type of violence, with the protesters and all that. Like a majority of the protesters, the protesters are coming in peace. But we have people from the outskirts of st. Louis county, outside of ferguson who are doing a majority of the rioting and looting. And sir, let me ask you, i dont know if you had a chance to hear president obamas remarks yesterday about whats happening in ferguson. If you did have a chance to hear them, what with your thoughts, what was your reaction . I think mr. Obamas doing a great job. I think hes doing the right going down the right path of trying to find by assigning the Justice Department to come in and oversee this investigation. Because like robert. Hes not going to give a fair opinion of Darren Wilson due to the fact Darren Wilson has been a Law Enforcement officer. Hes bringing indictments to the st. Louis county Prosecutors Office every day to have people indicted for him. Right. So you dont trust the local prosecutor to complete this investigation . In your mind, you dont think justice will come through the local prosecutor . No, i dont. Okay. Lets talk just a little bit since you are leading the actual real protest that were seeing, which are again the majority of whats happening there, what do you think is changing at night . Why do you suppose there is so much tension and violence once the sun goes down . Because a lot of the people thats coming out at night besides the protesters that really want to find justice are the people that are opportunists, trying to commit chaos with the local Police Department. All right. Well, anthony ellis, i really appreciate you being here, a ferguson resident and somebody leading the peaceful, positive protest there. Thank you very much. Thank you, maam. All right. Coming up in our continuing coverage of the Michael Brown shooting, well discuss the president s response to the situation in ferguson, missouri, including some of the criticism hes taking. And well ask, is it fair . But first, its been ten days since Michael Brown died, and his family and the entire community are still seeking justice. These people are crying out for justice. Nobody is saying be unfair to the Police Officer. He has his right to due process. Were a nation of laws. But what we are saying is be fair to Michael Browns family as well. So factors like diet can negatively impact good bacteria . Even if youre healthy and active. Phillips Digestive Health support is a duoprobiotic that helps supplement good bacteria found in two parts of your digestive tract. Im doubly impressed phillips Digestive Health. A daily probiotic. But parallel parking isnt one you do a lof them. Ings great. Youre either too far from the curb. Or too close to other cars. Its just a matter of time until you rip some guys bumper off. So, here are your choices take the bus. Or get Liberty Mutual insurance. For drivers with accident forgiveness, Liberty Mutual wont raise your rates due to your first accident. 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We have this information from nbc news that was given by the st. Louis county prosecuting attorney. It says, quote, yes, we are attempting to start grand jury proceed thgs week. We do not comment on ongoing investigations. Charges can be for murder in the first down to voluntary manslaughter or no true bill, which means no charges. And theres no timeline for the case. Looking at what you know now, lisa, what is possible and what is likely in terms of potential charges for this officer . Well, i think thats correct. Certainly murder. If you believe the story taken together of the three witnesses who tell similar stories, they tell a story that mike brown was running away and that he was shot as he was trying to get away, that he turns and had his hands in the air and he was then shot. One of them says is he specifically said, i dont have a gun. And then he was shot. If, indeed, the officer shot under those circumstances, that would be sufficient for firs firstdegree murder. The lesser charge would be manslaughter. And pamela, one of the things thats made this case difficult to analyze is the fact there has been selective leaking, that youve had some information come out but not all the information come out. And eric holder, the u. S. Attorney general, is headed down to ferguson tomorrow. One of the things the Attorney Generals Office said is this. The selective release of Sensitive Information weve seen in this case so far is troubling to me. No matter how others perceive their separate inquiries, the Justice Department has to preserve the integrity of the investigation. Do you feel that releasing information like that video thats not related to the shooting but that shows the allegations that this young man Michael Brown stole something from a store, do you think that the investigation itself has been compromised in a way that will make it impossible to pursue justice . I actually think that it has been compromised in a way. I dont know that it makes it impossible for there to be justice in the case. But if you look at the release of the information, the lack of information that was released on the shooter, it gives an air or an appearance of impropriety and makes you not trust the process. It further inflames the community to make them believe heres another example of why we cant trust

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