Transcripts For MSNBCW The Rundown With Jose Diaz-Balart 201

MSNBCW The Rundown With Jose Diaz-Balart November 26, 2014

Im jose diazbalart. Crowds marched in ferguson. We didnt see nearly the kind of chaos we saw the night before. There were no buildings set on fire. Fewer arrests. Thousands of National Guard troops helped keep the peace. A lot of the protesters came out for peaceful protests were actually assisting us tonight. Once again, there are those who are stuck on violence who embed themselves with the Peaceful Protesters. There were indications that peaceful protests were intent on squeezing out. In some areas, violence did break out. Reported at least 45 people were arrested. This Police Car Set on fire. For a second night, the outrage in ferguson brought people into the streets in cities across the country from new york to los angeles. As far south as dallas. As far north as minneapolis. Protesters blocked roads and in some cases clashed with police. At the center of it all, Darren Wilson, the officer who shot and killed Michael Brown. He is speaking out for the first time describing what happened that day. Is there anything you could have done differently that would have prevented that killing from taking place . No. Nothing . No. And youre absolutely convinced when you look through your heart and your mind that if Michael Brown were white, this would have gone down in exactly the same way . Yes. No question . No question. Meanwhile, this morning, browns family is well putting its hopes for justice on the federal investigation. And a possible civil rights case. Were just going to keep fighting. And pray for a better outcome. What do you hope happens . Conviction. Youre hoping hes pursued in federal court . Yes. Nbcs craig melvin has been in the streets both nights and seen the developments up close. He joins us this morning. What do you think made the difference from the first night to the second night . Id say two things. Primarily. First, you mentioned this the presence of the National Guard. The first night we just saw a handful of guardsmen. Last night, there were more National Guard than st. Louis Police Officers. Its been my experience again, this is just from what ive seen over the last this time and my last time here. For whatever reason the protesters, the demonstrators, they seemed far less inclined to engage the National Guard troops than they do the st. Louis police. That was one thing. The second thing this made the biggest difference. We saw this up close firsthand. Members of clergy and good hearted protesters who were here for Michael Brown shouted down folks who might be here to cause trouble. There was one woman who at one point, she came to the front of the scrum and she started screaming at some of the folks who have been tossing some things at some of the guard members. She screams them down. And she goes over to one of them. Shes like were here for Michael Brown. If youre not here for Michael Brown, you can go down the street. They didnt go down street but they did calm down. We also saw i saw four five members of clergy who from time to time it appeared as if the situation might be about to go to the next level. What weve seen happen so many times here. Clergy would step in. Theyd separate the police and the guardsmen from the protesters. They say hey, lets calm down. And that seemed to work. All of that being said there was one incident last night that was noteworthy about a half mile from here. The Ferguson City hall. Its fairly small. Nondescript. We did see a crowd of protesters head down that way. That is where they tried to topple a car, a police car. They tried to flip the car over and set it on fire. They were unsuccessful. 45 people were arrested in and around ferguson last night. Considerably fewer folks than were arrested the night before jose. Craig melvin thank you very much. Appreciate your time. Joining me now, James Peterson director of Africana Studies at lehigh university. Clearly, theres a sense what happened in ferguson is spreading across the country. Theres solidarity there. How do you harness that energy in a positive way . I think, one, we have to acknowledge why its spread nationally. The reason why, this is not just the ferguson problem, this say problem were seeing all over the place. Theres a community in cleveland in angst around the shooting death of a 12yearold. We still have the new York Community with eric gardner. The communities around john crawford. There are people all over who are wrestling with these unjustified and these sort of shooting of unarmed young young people in cities all over the nation. Thats why you can see people across the nation sort of stepping up. I think the way we channel it. The way we use it to focus on issues at hand is making sure we understand what the issues are. There are few things to consider here. Number one, we need a serious overhaul of policing strategies and tacktics when it comes to people of color. That acknowledges two things. One, theres sort of implicit violence that shapes everyones decisions. But also those biases when theyre informing decisions where lethals for can or cannot be used take on much higher stakes. We need a comprehensive effort to try to adjust policing in that specific way. Then we can talk about body cameras and other things weve seen work in other communities around police brutality. As youve seen this bubble up across the nation i hope people engaged in these protests will take direction from some leadership that is trying to organize around these important issues. We showed pictures from new york. These are pictures from los angeles and a lot of opportunities that people are having to show exactly their frustration, frustration they feel theyve been feeling for many many years. The protesters that are shutting down roads, for example, its a highly visible thing. Is it also effective . I mean i dont want to be counted as a rabblerouser here but yes it is effective when protesters are very well trained, very well organized. Impedeing the highways is one way you let them know you mean business when it comes to the issue youre protesting around. Theres important strategic moves. You can tell when people are kneeling down on highways theyve been trained and theres some organization around it and theyre willing to go to jail for this particular cause. Its helping to raise issues around what we think is one of the most troubling causes in america today. I want to talk about that. You were just mentioning a little bit. Theres an issue of what youre saying is just a cultural inability i guess to deal with communities like the africanamerican communities, Latino Community. How do you change that culture . I keep thinking about that all the time. How do you actually get change to occur. Yeah this is a long, longterm proposition im going to make here. I mean one, there has to be a willingness on the part of Police Officers, those who were in power right now, those officers in place right now, to develop along the areas of cultural competence. People need to understand there are very specific things that youth do or dont do. Very specific ways that people of color may communicate. And cultural confidence training for Law Enforcement seems to be absolutely imperative. I think even before we did that people have to understand how bias works and how implicit bias works. When i see officer wilson doing the interview, im seeing something very different than what other people may see, what white people may see. So we have to be able to acknowledge bias and how it shapes how we see things. I think if we did some cultural confidence stuff and embraced the information about bias it would go a long way towards the effort of training our Police Officers in a way where they could serve and protect instead of terrorizing. Thats a lot of work. That requires an overhaul. It requires oversight of that training. It requires willingness, commitment, on the part of Law Enforcement. So interesting when you say were all see things from a different perspective. All of us can at least understand what the other person is seeing better. Even though we may not see it. Thank you so much. This is such an important issue that were discussing. I really appreciate your time. Thank you, jose thank you for having me on. Were going to have much more from the scene in ferguson. This is an issue that really were going to be delving into a lot on this program. Now to the other major story driving the rundown. The busiest travel day of the year is colliding with a major noreaster that could cause chaos at the roads and airports for millions of people. Flights out of the northeast have already been canceled and the worst of it its not even here yet. Take a look at this live picture. Thats richmond virginia. And that is bill karins who will give us this thanksgiving day forecast. Bill, do you have any good news . Not a lot, no. The low clouds are causing problems at the airports now. Arrival delays into philadelphia, an hour and a half delays. When the pilots are coming in they have limited eyesight on the runways. Thats whats causing all the delays. La guardia now reporting threehour arrival delays. This is just the beginning of what is going to be a very long day at the airports. And hopefully not too many people will get stuck and not make their destinations. Now were into the part of the storm where the snow is breaking out. Now in central pennsylvania the poconos. You probably only have an hour or two left before the roads will be covered in the Hudson Valley. Shortly this afternoon into new england. Were almost getting to the point where im going to tell you get off the roads and the highways. Especially central new england, Hudson Valley through the poconos. Its also snowing pretty good interstate 81 through virginia. Snow totals. The blockbuster amounts are going to be more or less the Higher Elevations of central or Northern New England. A good large chunk here. 6 to 12 inches with a few spots a footplus. The big cities on i95 mostly just rain. Baltimore and philly not expecting much, same with areas around boston. Florida got drenched. Areas around Daytona Beach picked up 7 inches of rain yesterday. There were tornado warnings in orlando. This storm is leaving its mark. Its going to be raining down in miami if its not already. Thank you very much. Good to see you. Of course well be staying on top of this very important weather story on this busy travel day throughout the morning. Were just Getting Started on this prethanksgiving edition of the rundown. President obama has a full plate in front of him today. Much more than the annual turkey pardon. Were also learning also about the short list to replace defense secretary chuck hagel. Its whats driving d. C. And six americans who survived ebola together in one place. Talking on today about how thankful they are to be alive. Any second thoughts about the choices you made . Being involved . None. None . It would be okay to say yes. Nobody . I wish id used a little more chlorine. Well hear from them much more later this hour. Let us be lovers, well marry our fortunes together ive got some real estate here in my bag it took me four days to hitchhike from saginaw ive come to look for america when i say xerox, i know what youre thinking. Transit fares as in the 37 billion transit fares we help collect each year. No . Oh, right. Youre thinking of the 1. 6 million daily Customer Care interactions xerox handles. Or the 900 Million Health insurance claims we process. So, its no surprise to you that companies depend on todays xerox for services that simplify how work gets done. Which is. Pretty much what weve always stood for. With xerox youre ready for real business. Burning buildings. Torching cars. Destroying property. Putting people at risk. Thats destructive. Theres no excuse for it. Ive never seen a civil rights law or a Health Care Bill or an immigration bill result because a car got burnt. It happened because people vote. That was president obama calling for a more productive response to the grand jury decision in ferguson. Saying next week the white house will be giving a major review of policing practice in the country. Thats one of the items on the president s todo list. First on his agenda deciding a new secretary of defense. Michele flournoy was said to be a top contender but she says she doesnt want the job. Nbcs Chris Jansing live at the white house. Good morning. Great to see you. Who does that leave on the president s short list . New name surprisingly surfaced last night. Thats Homeland Security secretary jay johnson. Hes worked at the pentagon before as general counsel. Most recently he really earned a lot of respect here. One of the major architects of the immigration plan the president put forward. People say it could make it difficult for his confirmation hearing if nothing else it could make for tough questioning by the republicans. The president would have to replace the person at the top of Homeland Security. A couple of other names are out there. Former number two, Ashton Carter worked at defense under a couple different president s. He is actually a theoretical physicist. He was a harvard professor. He was number two and number three at the pentagon. The current number two who served in the marines is also on that list. Dont necessarily expect anything this week jose. Its a short week first of all. Theres no rush because its clear the senate would not vote on this any way this year. So theres really no reason for them to hurry. What can you tell us about negotiations on tax breaks . The president was working the phones last night along with Dennis Mcdonough hischief of staff. 440 million tax bill worked out between House Republicans and office of harry reid so obviously this pits the president against reid. Heres the white house thinking this gives ten years of benefits to businesses, nothing for middle class americans. In fact a couple provision, of that bill that would have helped especially the working poor, were pulled out at least in part because of what happened with immigration. I think theres going to be a little more room for negotiation. It would be only the third veto that hes made. Chris jansing, thank you. Well check back with chris the next hour for the lighter side of thanksgiving at the white house. One lucky bird set to receive a pardon. After the break, from driving d. C. To driving home for the hot days plenty of americans are grateful for gas prices this year. And later, the protests in hong kong heating up once again. Two student leaders of that movement under arrest as demonstrators clash with police. And a life look at one of the major interchanges in indianapolis on this getaway day. No major weather issues there. Were keeping an eye on the travel trouble in the northeast here on the rundown. Shes still the one for you. And cialis for daily use helps you be Ready Anytime the moment is right. Cialis is also the only daily ed tablet approved to treat symptoms of bph like needing to go frequently. 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