Wheres the isnt that special . Thats the church lady. She returns to snl and has a rare interview with you know who. And lets get right to new reaction from donald trump about House Speaker paul ryans reluctance to back him. And heres what the presumptive nominee told my colleague chuck todd in an interview airing this morning on meet the press. Im never stunned by anything that happens in politics. But im not so im not yeah, i was blindsided a little bit because he spoke to me three weeks ago and it was a very nice, encouraging call. Dont know him well. Met him one time, but have a nice relationship with him and all of a sudden he goes on and does this number. Im not sure what he has in mind, but thats okay. His comments come days before hes set to meet privately with the House Speaker and rnc chairman. Trump is taking a break from the campaign trail after once again going after Hillary Clinton and the former president for his past indiscretions. Shes married to a man, and nobody, nobody perhaps in the history of politics was worse to women or abused women more than bill clinton. And shes taking negative ads on me. I mean, heres a guy, he was impeached because he lied. He lied. Do you remember the fabulous i did not have sex with that woman, and then a couple of months later, im guilty. And shes taking negative ads on me for the democrats, Bernie Sanders is holding a rally in new jersey today ahead of next months primary. But West Virginia is next on the primary calendar for both democrats and republicans. There are 37 delegates at stake for democrats on tuesday and 34 delegates for republicans. Lets check in with nbcs katy tur whos been on the trump beat from day one. Katy, good to see you. With donald trump going after the clintons personal past, can we expect that to be, you know, the campaigns main line of attack from here on out . I dont think its going to be the main line of attack. I think its going to be one of many. Hes going after Hillary Clinton for her position with nafta, hes going after Hillary Clinton for benghazi, for her email scandal, for talking about miners and saying that coal miners jobs should be gone because she wants clean energy. Hes going to take everything he can and throw it all at her at the same time to try and take her down a notch. Hes trying to hit her credibility. Hes trying to hit her strength and stamina, which many find to be a veiled sexist attack. Hes also going to bring in as hes proven in the past four days where hes been campaigning, hes not afraid to go into bill clintons past, her past with him. Take a listen to how he put it yesterday. When Foreign Policy, hillary is trigger happy. She is, shes trigger happy. Shes got a bad temperament. By the way and her husband learned that a few times, didnt he . Bad temper. No, bad temper. Can you imagine look, can you imagine another four years of the clintons . Seriously. Can you imagine, seriously, its time to move on, folks. Weve got to do it right. Its time to move on. A couple things from that. Can you imagine another four years of a clinton in the white house . That perhaps is his best general election argument, trying to appeal to those who either dont like Hillary Clinton or were not happy with bill clintons eight years or frankly just want somebody new. Thats when we saw when it certainly came to jeb bush. Secondly, its the asides about bill clintons past that weve been seeing. Its not necessarily a fullfledged direct attack. He just kind of mentions it in an aside, and the audience groans and laughs. One thing about the audience that we see a lot lately, we have these vendors outside who are selling pins that say hillary for prison or much cruder versions of antihillary pin, and so many people in these rallies are wearing them, or the tshirts, and it goes to show you just how disliked she is, at least on the gop side. Donald trump is trying to figure out how many of those dont like her on the independent or maybe the democratic side. And hes going to try and bring them into the fold. Im sure well see more of that as we approach the general election. I want to ask you, do you get a sense that hes keeping the bullseye on the clintons and their past as an effort to kind of keep the spotlight and downplay the problems hes been having unifying the Republican Party . Absolutely. How will that hurt his chances Going Forward . I dont think its going to hurt his chances, but i think hes trying to change the conversation from maybe the issues hes having with the Republican Party. Hes still talking about it on the campaign trail. Hes still talking about speaker ryan, talking to chuck todd, claiming that he had this call with him after new york. The Speakers Office is disputing this, and they only had one phone call in march. Donald Trumps Campaign saying that was the phone call they were talking about. Not entirely clear how they were disputing paul ryans dispute. But that is an example of how he is not necessarily having the party unify behind him. For the speaker of the house to come out, whos really the leader of the Republican Party, for him to come out and say that he doesnt necessarily endorse or support the republican nominee yet, that is a major breaking, huge, giant thing. And its one thing that donald trump is going to have to figure out a way to come to come to terms with and fix because frankly, he needs the fundraising. He needs the party to unify around him so that he can fundraise to go up against Hillary Clinton. And shes probably going to be running a billiondollar campaign against him. Frances . To be a fly on the wall in that meeting on thursday with ryan and trump. Katy tur, as always, thank you. Appreciate your time. Want to go to Nbcs Kristen Welker in our washington bureau. Good morning to you. As we know, Hillary Clinton has been hitting back against trumps Foreign Policy, but when it comes to the strategy and to a bite back in dealing with trumps resurrection of her husbands past indiscretions, how hard will she bite back, if at all . Hey, frances. Well, good morning to you. We got a glimpse of how shes going to respond to these attacks earlier this week when she essentially brushed them off and said, hey, we dealt with that in the 90s. If he wants to bring all of that back up, go ahead. Ive already survived all of those battles. So i think thats going to be her tactic. But frances, shes going to be very careful not to respond to every single attack. Her Campaign Officials say shes not going to get down into the mud with donald trump. I think what you will see, on the other hand, her surrogates are going to agressively go after donald trump every time he makes one of these assertions, one of her top surrogates telling me their argument is going to be, youre going to really hold this person responsible for what her husband did so many years ago . So theyre really going to try to discredit that line of attack. But in terms of the candidate herself, i think shes going to be focused on drawing distinctions with his Foreign Policy and then unearthing and reminding voters of all of the controversial comments that hes made towards muslims, towards women, towards immigrants, they think that is a stronger way to take on donald trump. The challenge for the Clinton Campaign though is to figure out which attacks to respond to and which to ignore. And its one thing being defensive and being offensive, especially when it comes to donald trump and his past as well. I want to ask you on the other side, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders have no planned events in West Virginia ahead of the primary on tuesday. So Bernie Sanders, i know later this afternoon in piscataway, new jersey, hes going to hold an event there. Where exactly are they campaigning around that this week and what is the strategy on their calculation . Look, i think part of the strategy is both sides feel as though West Virginia there the cake there is already baked. Senator sanders looks very strong if that state. So theyre looking forward to some of these other states. Lets look. I think we have a graphic of where we can expect to see these two candidates in the coming days. Senator sanders will be in new jersey today. Hell be in california on monday and then oregon. Secretary clinton heads to virginia tomorrow. And then on tuesday, its kentucky. But that state, frances, california, california, california, it carries the most delegates. If youre looking forward, you have to imagine both of these candidates are going to spend a whole lot of time there. Senator sanders will likely spend big in terms of ad campaigns there. For the Clinton Campaign, theyre trying to figure out how to allocate their resources right now as she fights on two fronts, donald trump and senator sanders. So theyre going to have to figure that out. But i anticipate we are going to see her there quite a bit between now and the june primary. All right. Nbcs Kristen Welker from our washington bureau, as always, thank you very much. Thank you. Many republicans say Donald Trumps run for the president has caused you have with the deepest divides within the party in recent memory, but the candidate himself, he doesnt see that as a problem. Does the party have to be together . Does it have to be unified . Im very different than everybody else perhaps thats ever run for office. I actually dont think so. I think that it doesnt have to be unified . No, i dont think so. I think it would be better if it were unified. I think there would be something good about it, but i dont think it has to be unified. How do you win . Because i think im going to go out and im going to get millions of people from the democrats. Im going to get bernie people to vote because they like me on trade. I have to stay true to my principles also. And im a conservative, but dont forget, this is called the Republican Party. Its not called the conservative party. I want to bring in rosie gray, political reporter at buzzfeed and political reporter for the washington post, thank you both for being with me this morning. So rosie, lets get right to it. When it comes to trump saying that although we were reporting right after the indiana win, that his goal was to unify the party, and thousand were hearing this from him now. Is it because were hearing from mitt romney, the bushes, paul ryan now, and can he pull off a win without a unified gop behind him . Well, were really were really in uncharted territory. We havent really seen a situation in which the House Speaker is not supporting the nominee whos of his own party. So it really remains to be seen whether or not donald trump can pull off any sort of party unity and whether it will have any impact on whats going to happen in november. You know, when it comes to the unity there, theres some degree of it in the antitrump movement, spending 50 million since january, that uptick after nevada. Phillip, as you reported this week, you look at it and you see them coming in heavy in indiana. You know they kind of did the hands up thing in new york and the northeastern states as well. So would you say it didnt work primarily because there was really no other option that they were giving voters out there, no other alternative . Yeah, i think thats definitely part of it. The field is so splinter, they didnt solidify on who they wanted to stand up against him. The establishment couldnt decide. And they they spent too late, they started spending after nevada. That fracturing, when donald trump says that he doesnt need republicans to win, i think its delusional. I mean, he absolutely one of the reasons hes seen so unfavorable is they view him unfavorable to everyone else as well. I think he needs to slolidify hs base. Which is why its so important to see who hell pick as his running mate. Whats the game man now that hes the last gop candidate left in the race . Here we go, a day of reckoning, i think as you put it. Well, theres a couple options. One thing that a lot of people are starting to focus on is downballot races and trying to preserve the partys majorities in the senate and the house, try to protect those candidates from trump, basically. So thats one thing that people are focusing on. Theres also still some talk of trying to recruit some sort of thirdparty conservative option. But theres a lot of logistical challenges there. Theres no clear person who that person would be. That would be a more unlikely scenario, i think. Were talking about his rally yesterday in Washington State when it comes to the attacks that were seeing, maybe, you know, as we were hearing from katy tur to deflect from the problem and party unity that he doubled down on his new favorite clinton attack. Lets take a quick listen to that. Shes playing the womens card. Shes going, did you hear that donald trump raised his voice while speaking to a woman . Oh, im sorry. Im sorry. I mean, all of the men were petrified to speak to women anymore . We may raise our voice. You know what . The women get it better than we do, folks. All right . They get it better than we do. So were hearing from that on the side hes kind of got the side fight back and forth on twitter with Elizabeth Warren. So rosie, does trump just not care about the poor image among women . You hear from him, you hear from his surrogates and saying hes doing strongly, but look at these numbers. 70 unfavorable. Does he need to now care . Does he need to change if he wants to win in november . Well, he does. I mean, he does need to care about that because he is so unpopular broadly among many different groups including women. And he is going to need to win more women in order to win in november. Whether or not he actually does i mean, his behavior does not indicate that he is making a real effort to, you know, to change his rhetoric towards women, et cetera. So i dont know whether he can really climb that mountain. Do you think, rosie, that we can eventually see Melania Trump or ivanka trump coming out a little bit more and hearing from them more now that i think we lost you there. Or maybe a light. Because we see a silhouette from you. Phill phillip, do you think when it comes to that that we might see more of his wife and daughter to help him out . Yeah. He actually tried to do that earlier in the campaign. Right. And i thought that we would continue to see it, but its kind of been there, then back, then not so much anymore. Right. I dont know that it did much good when he tried last time either. If you look at where he polls the most recent post abc poll, hes doing 20 points worse than mitt romney among white women. The only time they havent since 1972 was for bill clinton in 92 and 96, but he needs those white women. They normally vote republican. And right now theyre favoring Hillary Clinton according to most recent polling and thats a big problem. Of course, well see again the allimportant running mate. Well see how that may come into play. Rosie, nice to have you back only to say goodbye. I wish we had more time. To both of you, glad to have you with me this morning, rosie and phillip. Coming up, a look at the short list of Vice President ial candidates that could join the trump ticket. Amazing is moving like one. 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Its all part of his line of attacks against Hillary Clinton who he says is using the socalled woman card. Joining me now is victoria defrances defrancesco, professor at the university of texas. As always, good to have you with me. I have to say, and now that the attacks are coming hard even personally against Hillary Clinton and her husband, why would donald trump bring her into the mix here . Why would he even bother picking this fight against Elizabeth Warren when he can focus on Hillary Clinton, and what will that do as far as those woman card attacks against her . Good morning, frances. More than anything, its red meat to the crowd. You know, he is still in primary mode. So hes trying to rile up that base. We saw him in West Virginia. He still has a couple more primaries. And he really wants to cement that frontrunner status. So he does this. And Elizabeth Warren, being a very progressive democrat, quite to the left of Hillary Clinton, is able to rile up the crowd. So i think as we get more into the general election, were going to see that focus off of Elizabeth Warren and more onto Hillary Clinton. B